So many feels guys 😭 So many stresses 😓 to top it off a “friend” at sea asking how many people onboard. That’s always the question when my heart sinks. (Why do you want to know that 😭) You guys did so well in keeping it together. You got this!! Keep going, keep growing. Much love ❤️
@effkay36912 жыл бұрын
How many crew: 10 males with weapons.
@SailingNahoa2 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys. Hope to cross paths some day!
@stuartsmith51462 жыл бұрын
Nahoa getting a shout out from Legends Nandji. If they think you can do it’s as good as done. Cheers all. Do it, straight up because my 18yo bebegirl needs representation that more can be done with life for hard workers such as yourselves than what this hard worker has done just trying to make rent
@daveamies50312 жыл бұрын
@@effkay3691 the problem with that answer is.... If they were pirates (unlikely, but just in case) you might cause them to be over prepared, the opposite answer (i'm solo) might make you look like an easy target, I think Ben made the right call, no answer.
@Designer-Jock2 жыл бұрын
Attitude is everything you know the boats sounds The Captains worry love you guys.
@johnhayford59462 жыл бұрын
Have been following you guys as you are living our dream. We got as far as buying a Lagoon 470 10 years back, got as far as the Canaries. The boat was nearly new at the time, but we never felt safe in heavy seas due to the hull flexing and the terrible noise from where the woodwork met the hull. Then we met a delivery crew on a Lagoon 500, who reported similar issues, plus they noted piles of wood dust at the flex points. Then we met another owner with another 500 who could not get the forward windows to stay in place. That was it we sold the boat after only a year and went back to a monohull. Had this for 7 years, and we feel a lot safer when the going gets rough. Sad as we loved the idea of a Cat, just lost confidence in the build qualities.
@grancitodos73182 жыл бұрын
Unless you only want to sail Caribbean and perhaps Mediterranean, people need to buy limited production, well built catamarans, that are not just flashy marina boats to impress the Jones's.
@mirokozuh20992 жыл бұрын
This is not catamaran fault, this is maker fault. There is more brands of catamarans.
@grancitodos73182 жыл бұрын
@@mirokozuh2099 A lot of research into the other brands is needed, before buying a mass produced one, there are three other brands that an owner of boat yards, reported major structural problems, one is Leopard.
@Drew-eo2oj2 жыл бұрын
You had to know how silly that sounds. There are plenty of awesome cats out there but yes they're expensive. You probably left out the part about taking a bit of a hit on the sale so it's understandable if you wanted to be a bit more money conscious.
@grancitodos73182 жыл бұрын
@@Drew-eo2oj Some people just can't reach into another pocket to get the extra half million dollars for a so called better boat. The cost to the manufacturers, to have a better structural design, and workmanship, is not very high, but they want to make every extra penny they can.
@MrOj532 жыл бұрын
I've been following you for a while now and I do not know you, but since the last episode, my thoughts have often ended up with you. Glad you landed and good luck with the repair. From Sweden
@dansbrown13132 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ben and Ashley for this update. I suspect the Lagoon company already knows what you're up against and has a good idea what it will cost to repair. What they may not know is ,There are 362 thousand potential customers watching your struggles. Please let them know.
@chrisscott19582 жыл бұрын
Trade it in, make lagoon cover the loss and buy something else. Too much work and too ,many unknowns with the kids and there are good brands out there that will keep you safe. I dont want to see you leave Seychelles in this same boat
@rockinrican852 жыл бұрын
We looked at a lagoon last month,I’m so sad for Nahoa, but am thanking them profusely for showing this. Thank God we didn’t put in an offer.
@comfortablynumb93422 жыл бұрын
Lagoon is very aware of the problem. Their boats are known for bulkhead problems. I can't remember the channel name but a guy named Colin got one and has been fixing it on KZbin. He's spoken to Lagoon and talked about other boats with the same problems.
@jeremyrowley12402 жыл бұрын
@@comfortablynumb9342 sailing parley is the channel
@wyzolma992 жыл бұрын
@@comfortablynumb9342 sailing Parlay Revival was the channel.
@michaelbotelho27142 жыл бұрын
SOOOO GLAD you all made it safely to the Seychelles!!!
@roncanones90792 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@christaglieri85972 жыл бұрын
Greetings from the US Virgin Island of St. Croix. So glad to see you made it in one piece (literally) to the Seychelles! I can’t imagine the stress you were under with 2 littles on board. Speaking of littles, I’m a newly retired teacher with masters degree in early childhood education. I LOVED watching you lacing cereal w/ your daughter. That is a wonderful activity for a child her age. Of course as she grows and doesn’t want to eat the cereal (adorable), you can start to work on patterns! If you are ever in the US Virgin Islands, we would be happy to put all of you up at our place! We’ve got a private and newly renovated 2 bedroom apartment below our house available for all of you! Lots of room for the kids to run! Thanks for sharing your life!
@victorlovesmc2 жыл бұрын
I live in St. Thomas✌🏼
@bertski602 жыл бұрын
glad you made it safe and sound. pretty hard not to think of worst case scenarios when you were still underway. nice to see smiles all around at the end. thnx for another dandy show.
@nicksearle94002 жыл бұрын
Been watching you guys for a while now... so glad u got there safe! was concerned for you. hope you get your bulkheads sorted.
@existenceisfutile6612 жыл бұрын
gotta say ive been waiting to hear an update on the situation of your boat and your passage glad to hear that you guys managed to make it back into port with no serious issue on board its sad to know the work you guys are faced with in the coming days and weeks but i know you'll pull through.
@mrm44002 жыл бұрын
Gosh, I was worried about you guys! SO happy you're safe. Also glad Lagoon is assisting with technical advice. Your and other Lagoons must have caused reputational damage for the brand. Colin of Parlay Revival fixed his bulkheads so well that there are now absolutely zero screetching and scratching sounds coming from the boat. At least that is something to look forward to plus the added advantage that your boat should be solid once you're done with it. Hope to see you when you arrive in South Africa. Blessings from Cape Town. ❤🇿🇦
@tomcraddock2442 жыл бұрын
I hope lagoon helps you get thru this.so happy your safe in port.wishing all of you the best❤️ Fair winds ⛵️
@daveraeburn55172 жыл бұрын
I hope you guys read this. I am a naval architect and surveyor with 50 years experience of small craft both leisure and commercial and in all materials. My best advice is to contact your insurers and let them know what is happening. If no insurance, hire an accredited and experienced surveyor and a marine lawyer. This is no quick repair and the structural integrity of your boat is at serious risk. Do not take chances with the family and only let the builders repair the problem under supervision of your surveyor and lawyer. Best of luck to you all, you will need it with a problematic design and faulty construction techniques. The term I use is 'not fit for purpose'.
@SailingLittleBird2 жыл бұрын
Just a side comment... on the radio contact from the freighter. Commercial vessels are required to maintain a Radio Log as part of GMDSS. It's always weird to be asked those questions, but they'll typically get Vessel Name, orig port and destination, flag, and people on board as required by various regulations. Most contacts they don't bother to fill out the log, but because he first said "Safety Check" he was very likely putting it in his GMDSS Log (that's one of the categories). When we've had radio safety checks they've usually been from Navy / Coast Guard, etc. We did notice in South Africa they were a bit more rigorous in logging and safety checks, etc. But it is nice to know other seafarers are out there and actually standing watch!
@Fchance4U2 жыл бұрын
I can't imagine the level of stress that the last few days of the passage had to have. Living the dream and making memories!
@Outrageousconduct2 жыл бұрын
Glad u made it ,that's the problem with catamarans ,the stress based on their design ,whatever the cause ,the repairs aren't gonna be cheap ,I'd be calling Colin from Parley he's been thur this bulkhead separations
@MrJazz-yp9wg4 ай бұрын
I'm so glad you all made it to land safe and sound. Ben & Ashley I admire how you both manage to stay calm and positive when facing all these challenges.
@keithrobinson8702 жыл бұрын
Was a house pilot in the 80s even got my captain's papers back in the day, but in many years of sailing I've never ever seen the kind of problems with boats that are happening now it's pathetic the kind of quality or lack thereof is appalling. Too many people have died from their keel falling off. I'm just glad you guys are okay
@midwestlakelife2 жыл бұрын
Clearly a problem across the board with absolutely everything. Planned obsolescence. Offshoring manufacturing clearly plays into it too. The only thing that matters to companies is money money money. Yes, money is important, but without quality, what is the point?
@daveamies50312 жыл бұрын
@@midwestlakelife Money is important now, but reputation is important to continue getting money in 5+ years time, it seems many manufacturers have forgotten that (not just in boats) Reputation is what allows a manufacturer sell at a premium in years to come, it's hard to earn and easy to loose.
@daveBit152 жыл бұрын
@@midwestlakelife Planned obsolesce is a myth: no one "plans" for their product to die, it just happens because of realities of cost/benefit. These boats are made for the charter industry. People buying them cheap know the associated risks they're taking, and are usually willing to pay for it putting a lot of hours of work on top of their investment.
@RiverWoods1112 жыл бұрын
@@daveBit15 You are right about the charter boats that people buy, and production boats are built cheap. This is a Lagoon, and the design is just faulty. They are offering to help fix it. Planned obsolescence is a real thing. I don't know if big items like yachts are affected by it, but I know that in smaller items we were taught to design it into our designs in college. It is a real thing!
@Steve-rm6gx2 жыл бұрын
I suspect theses problems always existed with boats, in different forms, however information is just more readily available now.
@ondi372 жыл бұрын
So happy to know you made it safely there!!! Kiddos are growing aooo fast and are both adorable. Hears hoping there isn't too much damage and that you get to get back out on the water soon. God bless and keep tou all 4 safe. From Tennessee Fan
@williamschall91242 жыл бұрын
So glad you all made it to port.. folks have been praying for your safe arrival particularly with the little bambinos... Time to watch the Parlay Revival videos on bulkhead repairs.... You were right to be weary of the "creep" who asked zu viele fragen on zu viele Leute am bord.... Lagoon has to be pissed .. they can't blame that your boat is "Hurricane Damaged" for the cracks on your vessel....
@kimkistler33702 жыл бұрын
So glad you made it, and in great spirits!! The babies are so cute, stay strong, wish I could do something to help. Much Love from Oregon
@GUCR442 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you again.. I hope all goes well with the haul out.. Just love you all thanks for taking the with you and thanks for all the hard work making videos for us all.. Peace and love you all Rolfie
@nmsspacedude97992 жыл бұрын
I rarely comment but have been subbed for years. Just glad you're all safe and sound (well - will get 'sound'!) and wishing you every blessing from the safety of my sofa. I really love your genuine attitudes and determination in all the ups and downs of life on 'Nahoa.'
@robertarcement57292 жыл бұрын
Lagoon is aware of the problem and they are sending kits to repair. I just saw this problem online day before yesterday and it's notorious with lagoons. I also heard and saw on KZbin that people who have this problems lagoon will fix them. Best of luck to you and your family.
@alanduffy79932 жыл бұрын
Surprised by the speed difference the Code 0 made. Our boat has a relatively small self tacking headsail. Have been considering a bowsprit for a few years, but you have convinced me to add one onto our old Lagoon 42 and setup a Code 0. We were in the Seychelles in the late 90's and had such a great time. La Digue was our favorite. Anchoring off a beautiful beaches with pink granite boulders making the headlands. Sandy walking trails leading away from the beach towards shops in the distance,. Have nothing but amazing memories from Seychelles. Hope all goes well with the bulkhead challenge and it is just a simple repair.
@DumpsterLettuce2 жыл бұрын
Arrrg!!! I've been worrying about you guys so much!! I've been waiting, holding my breath till this episode so I know you're all OK. Love ya'all! ✌🏼🤟🏼🙏🏼
@rchristie54012 жыл бұрын
This sums it up for many of your followers. Me included. Stay safe
@RiverWoods1112 жыл бұрын
I knew they were okay last week because they can't post a video from the middle of the Ocean. They had to have made it to these islands! That and their videos are probably weeks behind if not longer!
@DumpsterLettuce2 жыл бұрын
@@RiverWoods111Nothing I didn't already know but still has me worried, regardless of the facts.
@pacha.racing2 жыл бұрын
Make sure you fix your problem before heading to South Africa. The Mozambique channel is renowned for some of the most dangerous sailing conditions. Don't chance it!! We got belted by a big 4 day low on my C&N 55. She's very seaworthy but I couldn't imagine being in 10m seas and 50kn wind with a boat that is not in optimal condition! If you need contacts in Richards Bay let me know. Stay safe!!!
@abacaxifamily2 жыл бұрын
Try to tie a rope across the saloon / aft deck floor and see if the boat is bent. If so there are more bulkheads broken or not attached to deck and hull anymore. Same thing like at SV Parley revival. Lagoon 450
@DB-iu8yl2 жыл бұрын
Sailing Parlay Revival had major issues with there Lagoon 450s bulkheads. Colin documented the repair well and did a lot of consultation with Lagoon.
@rickkwitkoski19762 жыл бұрын
Good luck with the repairs. Lagoon should be VERY AWARE of your problem since you ate not the only boat with this. Take care of those little sweeties and fair winds.
@nunosantiago22732 жыл бұрын
There's a series of videos (Expedition Evans) on the restoration of a Beneteau Oceanis that had run aground where all the weaknesses in its construction are well shown. It's worth a peek.
@samueldavehimbingmecenas25542 жыл бұрын
Looking forward for the repair for safe sailing.👍 from🇵🇭
@barbiewarner5302 жыл бұрын
so glad u made it safe..hopefully fixing them will help.so glad u r smart bout the other boats questions and yes the pirates r out there just waitn for pple like us..with honest anwsers..b careful..sum peps arent that nice..
@SailingDauntless2 жыл бұрын
So sorry to hear about your boat. I'm obviously not there to inspect it in person BUT I would be highly suspicious of an over-tensioned rig. The companion way bulkhead is closest to the chain plates and would likely present first. Did you have any slack in your leeward shrouds during your passages since putting the rig back up?
@mazea86742 жыл бұрын
I’m so happy that you guys reach Seychelles safe and I hope your boat will be fix early so you guys will continue sailing without that really stress problem.take always.I love watching your videos.God bless
@m.l.20072 жыл бұрын
Other folks have had issue with bulkheads on Lagoon Cats, both vloggers had extensive repair issues. Bulkheads separating.
@rileybri2 жыл бұрын
Ugggg so sorry. We all knew the 450 had/has bulkhead issues but sucks to see on the 410 as well. On the plus side Parlay Revival has laid out the repair process for fixing the bulkhead failure. Not fun. But doable. I'm rooting for you guys!!
@ipc19622 жыл бұрын
Van a tener un enorme trabajo. Espero no atrase sus planes.
@thoughtuk2 жыл бұрын
Look at channel sailing parlay, rebuilt bulk heads, they have advised on how they corrected the issue. Praying safe passage to a safe harbour ro get it fixed.
@dianedickey11632 жыл бұрын
You made it, man you've been on my mind. God bless you on the next steps.
@alanmurgida81722 жыл бұрын
your concerns are the interior bulkhead breaks and cracks. You said the supports around the mast and traveler are fine. I assume that's true for the rudder and aft assemblies. Fiberglass boats are made with a certain amount of flexing and Nahoa has exceeded that. But the measure for me would be if she's taking on water more than usual that could be a sign of hull intergrity and through hull fittings being compromised would be of greater concern .
@tieniewalters32872 жыл бұрын
So glad you made it safely. If you can get to South Africa we can sort you out here. Greetings from Cape Town...SA
@riksavering70492 жыл бұрын
So happy you guys made it to port safely. As always you handle challenges with style and grace. Hopefully repairs will be swift. I’m wondering if reaching out to the builder should be part of this process?
@michynature2 жыл бұрын
I finally have time again to catch up on my favourite sailing channels but I admit it took me a few days to click on this one due to anxiety!! I just didn’t want to hear you are facing something huge when you just got back that there with these omg adorable babies! Here’s hoping for the best!!! And your positivity just beams like a ray of sunshine!!
@Candidvortex2 жыл бұрын
Glad you guys made it safely, I agree South Africa best bet to fix the problem as much cheaper, but you can’t take the chance of sailing in those seas in the condition she’s in. Someone said in the comments you should contact Lagoon boats as this is a wide problem and they might be willing to do the work for free. Can’t wait to see the next video with news on your progress.
@kyladavenport28122 жыл бұрын
I trust insurance will cover the break at the lift in Thailand. You are the nicest couple. So relaxed and take stress in your side. It’s such a pleasure to watch your little family grow.
@toptug12 жыл бұрын
Good luck, hope you manage to get it all sorted very soon and it doesn't break the bank. You're such a lovely little family.
@paulrodrigues55622 жыл бұрын
There is a boat fibreglass repair shop in Mahe just next to Eden Island that may suit your needs.
@fytitess53372 жыл бұрын
Great that main bulkheads are fine. Shrouds tensioned too much when changing standing rigging ?
@ThatSandersboy2 жыл бұрын
I just love your family and your channel and look forward to watching how you treat people and each other ☺️
@richg35552 жыл бұрын
So glad you made it safely, take care, and good luck with the repairs.
@U20E272 жыл бұрын
The older charter cats all have had structural challenges. So not a big surprise unfortunately. The charter quality mono hulls all trade interior volume for structural grid and keel mechanically tied to the grid. You step up to “performance ie owner hulls” and you find far more internal structural components and keels properly bolted to structure vs outer skins etc. charter Multi hulls suffer the splits.
@j.j.clingman40832 жыл бұрын
Hopefully everything goes better than planned with the bulkhead issue!!! I’m definitely glad that you and your family made it safely to the seashells!!! Remember keep up all the hard work!!!
@painfree.yourself2 жыл бұрын
Good to see you made it! All the best to you and your boat. And if someone asks how many people on board, tell them you are 11 or 15 guys from a US, a hunting and fishing club! Fair winds and following seas
@lincolnlincoln272 жыл бұрын
SO happy you made......Colin of Parlay revival will be good experise forinsiteforproperrepair.......Love & Respect!!!!
@veemuyambo2 жыл бұрын
Welcome to Africa Naoha , Love u guys , am sorry on all you going through with your boat , Sending u Love .
@music-man2 жыл бұрын
So glad you made it guys. I guess now the decision is do you keep it and spend the money and in all reality based on the problems Lagoon is having do you want too. Or is it time for another boat that will give you the peace of mind knowing you have little ones on board that will get you around the world safely. Much love to you both xxx
@capttom77722 жыл бұрын
BEN, I know LARGE BOATS, This time when you take HER out of the water, MAKE SURE YOU BUILD A CRADLE to support all the weight evenly. Lighten HER as much as possible, BATTERIES, FUEL, WATER, ELECTRONICS, ANYTHING ELSE THAT HAS ANY WEIGHT ! I was the Captain of the "AZUMA", a retired Japanese Coast Guard Vessel 80 ft. length, The new owners, AGAINST MY WORD, tried to haul her using 2 cranes and slings, AGAINST MY WORD, the vessel is now a LANDFILL ! BEST of LUCK BEN & ASHLEY, YOU ALL are in my PRAYERS !🙏
@jerrywilson5892 жыл бұрын
Sarcastically speaking... I had a back and forth with SabertOOth last week about the haulout in Thailand being the culprit that caused these issues. He said he was a "world class, world renowned, sailboat racer, who knew everything" and, it was impossible for the static load of a haulout to cause damage like that. He said that poor design causes damage like that. I said the same thing about bad lifts during haulout and I was told absolutely not the case so be watching for him to reply to you as well... Anyway, when you truly spend years on the water and do it for weeks and months at a time without seeing land plus deal with the shipyards and haulout facilities, YOU KNOW THE TRUTH. The ABSOLUTE most dangerous time in a boats life is during haulout and one bad lift can absolutely destroy a vessel.
@Designer-Jock2 жыл бұрын
Mmmmm’ maybe not
@capttom77722 жыл бұрын
@@jerrywilson589 YES ! AGREED !! I am also considering that maybe the SHROUDS were too tight and pulled the vessel apart when she was in rough seas.🤔
@capttom77722 жыл бұрын
@@Designer-Jock Please elaborate
@ryand45332 жыл бұрын
@@capttom7772 Probably a combination of bad lifts and bad rigging. A lot of these comments claim bad design but the famous boat/incident they all referenced (Colin from Sailing Parley) was a restored severely hurricane damaged boat. I’m not a naval architect or engineer but my first thought was similar to yours. Most of these KZbin sailors are amateurs thinking they know more or understand better than they really do. Anything that flexes and has rigging needs to be constantly adjusted! These people only get the rigging checked every couple years?
@idonwantella28249 ай бұрын
How long did the boat squeak before you noticed the movement?
@pablorolon27942 жыл бұрын
Sailing Parley Revival KZbin had founded the same problema with the lagoon and had to do work on it. Recommend watching the channel and am sure you will get some orientation. Good luck 👍
@jp18632 жыл бұрын
Hi Sailing Nahoa, Have you seen the Sailing Parlay Revival - Episode 117 Angry Owner speaks out... and Episode 118. The guys have gone through cracked bulkheads on their Lagoon 450. Looks like a design issue with Lagoons.
@dougmylroie17942 жыл бұрын
Simply enjoy your humor and easy going natures. Love watching your episodes. From the Eastern Cape, South Africa
@Ivansgarage2 жыл бұрын
Is the rear deck bowed down in the middle, like parley was.... when they pulled a string across there was a 2" gap in the center... you could end up with two hulls, mono hulls...
@steelejenb92342 жыл бұрын
Check w Colin on parlay revival... He completely rebuilt a hurricane destroyed lagoon 45...he knows its construction....just a suggestion. He's also a boat engineer. Great guy & super helpful....
@goldenacres32692 жыл бұрын
Sure glad you made it. Very big project on your horizon.
@strangersontheinternet2 жыл бұрын
In the words of Jaws I‘d say "You’re gonna need a bigger boat“ ^^ Also kind of creepy the guy on the radio asking so many detailed questions but relieved that he got the message and said bye respectfully
@clivestainlesssteelwomble76652 жыл бұрын
With political problems kicking of in the Seychelles and on Sri Lanka theres probably a few vessels moving away ...the AIS being down perhapse concerned them ... Glad you made it to your safe harbour... Im not sure how your going to tension the hulls back together below. The rear bulkheads Tops in compression bottoms in tension.. check your standing rigging tension each side of the mast. 🤔 It may have slackened somewhat.🤞🏼
@uniqrock2 жыл бұрын
Guy on radio sounds Filipino. Maritess blood is probably strong on that one. Genuinely thought he was concerned for the first part of the exchange, sans ais and all. The crew number question was definitely off.
@totococozza2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to see you in this situation, for me the Hull is not compromised but the glue sticking the wood panel is gone don’t forget you were in tropical weather and glue has this weakness the humidity..Let us knows guys when you go for repairs… Best Toto
@ablemarine90722 жыл бұрын
Prayers for your safe passage to safety and hopefully a place you can assess and repair the damages! Do you suppose your standing rig was too tight? So sad to see that your Home has been stressed. You are a Great Family and I have enjoyed following you in your multi adventure lives! Smiles yes even with your 20 ft mini boat home. Lots of Live and Prayers for you and Yours!
@bobbie73552 жыл бұрын
Total legends 🍻⛵ I'm still amazed how the tiny sailors are twin's but not the same age. Especially when Bo is laughing in the tub. Hugs from Texas sweeties 😎
@jmeady2 жыл бұрын
Good news. Glad you made port. Bet you'll be feeling lucky real soon. Separation occurs slowly sometimes and can happen quickly.....catastrophic. When they peel back the layers, you'll realize how long this has been going on. Obvious stuff. I'd say separation between hull and bridgedeck. The stars, obviously in your favor. You're docked and not hoping that someone heard your radio call. Get her fixed, sail on mate.
@Eternalblixx2 жыл бұрын
Is the rig too tight? that the rig creating tight stress to the midsection of the hulls? or it could be been under long time overtightend rig tireing out the seams in the bulkheads...i could be compleatly off but ive been repairing boats so...but this boat type ive never worked on so i dont know its quirks over long time. other thing i was wondering, when you guys hauled out last, you lifted the boat up and back in under bridgedecks, and being an older hull that has seen some crossings might have tweaked the boat up bad that it cracked the bulkheads so much, that it did not need much to split as it did, hulls normally have its weight on its hulls, tweak it backwards...miiight have don it for the boat to crack. we NEVER lifted a cat under the bridgedecks, you never can guarantee that the boat ever been too tight in its rigging or too loose, the hulls weigh too much to be honest to be lifted only on the bridgedeck, some boats can take it depending on the grid in its deck....but some cant take it...
@Jac_light2 жыл бұрын
My rigger told me there should be enough play in catamaran rig stays that they stay can do ‘a circle around a pencil’. Most cat rigs are overtensioned and the stays on the leeward side can look too loose under sail which is how they get overtightened. He also mentioned with catamarans, for the most part they do not have backstays, so the side stays do a lot of the heavy lifting when flying sails forward of the mast and stays. A lot of sailors think the stays should be be tight to keep the mast a little raked back to offset the force of flying a big foresail, but the reality is most production catamarans are not built for that and combined, these two processes will stress a hull to failure if not moderated. Tight stays pull the hulls apart, and a big sail will add to that load exacerbating the separation. I hope Ben and Ashley can get it fixed and remain safe with their family. It takes guts to do what they’re doing. 💪🏼❤️
@karenrussell96722 жыл бұрын
Love Willa and Bodhi keeping it simple. Especially liked the well written song at the end of the video!
@marieaue59882 жыл бұрын
So glad you made it, love watching you and good luck with repairs!
@kaoragtv2 жыл бұрын
Yey thanks GOD finally you are all safe...welcome back.....always take care
@ericgregory30052 жыл бұрын
Is the rigging way off? You can over pressure the bulkheads easily.
@mikeh83122 жыл бұрын
I’m glad that you guys made it to the Seychelles. Take a look at Sailing Parley Revival he has a Lagoon 450 and had very similar issues and repaired them.
@tinmanrobby2 жыл бұрын
And David Shih. Plus others. It's a major problem.
@georgecarney30832 жыл бұрын
If you have followed "Sailing Parlay Revival" on YT and the bulk head issues they had and repaired. You may need to do the same, as it may be a Lagoon design problem. I know that the Lagoon manufacturers didn't like the posts posted by Colin. He even had another Lagoon sit on the hard next to him to learn how to repair the bulkhead issue. I wish you the best results.
@lisalisalisa77212 жыл бұрын
They should be scared. Colin did two seasons on Below Deck Sailing the Bravo series. He is incredibly smart and talented, I would not want that bad publicity either.
@AlexKall2 жыл бұрын
I remember them saying in, I think it was, the episode before that they had spoken to Colin.
@woolyimage2 жыл бұрын
I gathered from Colin’s more recent posts that Lagoon are now addressing the issue and repairing or giving repair specifications to owners. If they haven’t done so contacting Colin would I agree be a very good idea. I hope everything works out for you.
@MEdGrant2 жыл бұрын
Watching the Parlay videos where Colin was dealing with Lagoon, it appeared obvious the Lagoon was (is?) nervous of the potential liability of the bulkhead issue. Yes, they have issued a “sort of” solution to the issue but have loaded it up with “qualifiers” to limit their financial exposure. It would not surprise me if they are dealing with individual owners with “non-disclosure agreements”. Yachting Monthly (which you can search for online), published this about the issue: "...Catamaran builder Lagoon is seeking to reassure owners of the Lagoon 450 following reports of forward bulkhead deformation. Lagoon, which is part of Groupe Beneteau, has stressed that no navigation or safety issues have been reported as a result of the fault...." So one supposes that having a boat falling apart during a trans-oceanic passage isn't really a safety issue!? Whether they accept responsibility (including financial) or not, at this point their credibility certainly seems to be in the toilet. In any case this is a massive public relations hit: I can't imagine people lining up to purchase a new (or used) Lagoon until this bulkhead issue gets sorted out. Meantime we can only hope that Ben and Ashley are able to get themselves into a good, SAFE sailboat for the remaining balance of their circumnavigation.
@georgecarney30832 жыл бұрын
The fix from Lagoon is not a true fix, a quick easy fix, just a metal jacket to go around areas near the stress part of the bulkhead to strengthen that part only but not the entire boat is corrected and sound.
@aslansgirl90142 жыл бұрын
You guys are awesome. Just hang in there and try not to be discouraged. It’ll all work out I’m sure. Oh, and your two little babies are adorable BTW. Take comfort in those precious little smiles.
@davesemak2 жыл бұрын
I’m praying for you and your beautiful family to be safe, I’m enjoying watching your adventures and seeing your family grow. Thank you!
@peterbryan32952 жыл бұрын
I'm so relieved you guys made it.i said before when you got hauled out in Thailand I heard the cracks and straight away its the bulkheads..it will be the tabbing and yes you have lots of work Infront of you guys but your safe now so it's going to be a lot of work but as always looking forward to watching..stay safe guys.,👍😁🍺⛵⚓
@jackdbur2 жыл бұрын
What tabbing on a Lagoon as far as I've seen they mostly just glued together with minimal tabbing and undersized plywood bulkheads with huge holes cut through them. You need to add about 50+kg of biaxial cloth and unidirectional tape to their bulkheads and properly tab to the hull with epoxy for blue water sailing.
@nunosantiago22732 жыл бұрын
@@jackdbur Precisely!
@donnakawana2 жыл бұрын
Sigh of relief... Touch wood! I Kno all will be well!! As we all Kno the cruising community an supporter's of have a bond that's as tight as the strongest knot!! Your 2 amazing humans with 2 amazing wee balls of love... Sending big hugs Ashley an Ben your strength an wit an Moxie is inspiring. If Willa an Bodie get any cuter my dentures may fall out from my big smile... I jest... Lol!! 🤔 Maybe.... Thanks for sharing your lives with us grateful for the lessons an love ✌🏼💗😊❣️ Donna Kawana 💖
@zmanindy2 жыл бұрын
Good luck with the repairs and safe sailing.
@jilly-2474 ай бұрын
I absolutely love your friend with the guitar playing that wonderful song Sail away with true life experience on the sea
@thesquirrel9052 жыл бұрын
The guy on the radio was probably trying to reach out to you on your boats extended warranty. That why there were so many questions!! 😂
@christinechambers86082 жыл бұрын
I wonder if that boat collision when the Madives port authorities came onboard could have caused the initial damage. It seems like they hit the side of Nahoa right where that bulkhead is situated.
@craigme25832 жыл бұрын
Boats need to be able to take a few knocks without caving in...
@elmerburley77102 жыл бұрын
Glad you guys made land and are safe been really worried about you and kid's . God bless you and family stay safe. Peace
@lou19582 жыл бұрын
I was just watching the video from February where Nahoa was sitting on her keels, and you noted she felt bouncy and wouldn't dare step onboard. I wonder if that stress on the hull initiated the bulkhead problems.
@shaneshaw18952 жыл бұрын
this is the 1st lagoon outside of the 450 (parlay revival) that I've seen have this problem. I can only hope that this is repairable, good luck.
@ynAMe6Aj2 жыл бұрын
I'll be curious if the rig tension is right.
@barryandrews43162 жыл бұрын
Safe travels and good on yous for remaining clam...things happen for a reason...and this is one of them...Hope you fix your boat,,,and find the answer..God Bless
@dariomendez47552 жыл бұрын
Have you spoke to sailing Parlay they had similar issues with their boat. Designer flaw was determined by them For their lagoon
@anneofgreengables16192 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you arrived safely you seem a lot more upbeat upon arriving on land.
@86config2 жыл бұрын
With the hulls aparently cantilevering whats happening with your rig tension ?
@Ijustcantbelievethis2 жыл бұрын
The best part of the vid was the song at the end! Hahaha! Too good. Cheers guys! Good luck figuring it all out.
@donc7342 жыл бұрын
So happy to see you guys with crew! I’m sure this passage was a bit easier with them on board despite the heavy weather. Best of luck with repairs! Safe continued travels!
@Nosecrusher2 жыл бұрын
How are the repair facilities in the Seychelles?
@SeaLevelSurf2 жыл бұрын
So Stoked you guys made it safely to port. You’ve been in our prayers.
@4GH4402 жыл бұрын
Hi guys, how are things going with the boat, Have you been able to identify what the issue is and where you are up to to rectify the problem.
@collingtech12 жыл бұрын
lagoon 400 series has some bulk problems , did you contact lagoon rep/factory guys? i wonder if they have some solution/fix for it, keep safe out there
@aussienomaddestinations2 жыл бұрын
Glad you made it, smiles back on those worried faces, hope it’s not to bad,
@mihaiulviteazul2 жыл бұрын
Hello! For catamaran repairs, I advise you to do them in Reunion Island, rather than in South Africa, because you will be able to find better professionals at a better price, especially if the boat was built in France.
@ryansherva21282 жыл бұрын
Love watching your family in your adventures. I hope everything works out with your boat .