Line 18: Belfast Divided

As part of the Line 18 series on Sky News, David Blevins looks at the divisions that still remain in Belfast, 20 years after the Good Friday agreement.

[@wzupppp]

Crazy thing to know a West-European city wasnt that much different from Baghdad just 20 years ago.

[@Timo8.2.]

It wasn’t like that 20 years ago. 30-40 years ago is more accurate. In 2000 there were still paramilitaries but they weren’t putting bombs everywhere and shooting each other anymore. There were disputes between UDA and UVF and internal struggles in UDA. There were also punishment shootings back then but it was nothing like the 70’s, 80’s and early 90’s.

[@DMG118]

The story of Belfast is the same story repeated all over the world where the British colonised lands sadly. Ireland belongs to the Irish.

[@billyesdale1155]

Northern Ireland is a compromise of "irish" people who wanted to be part of Britain. This is not the UK wanting land it is people not wanting to be in the Irish community.

[@DMG118]

​@@billyesdale1155 The people who want to remain under British rule are the descendants of the people sent from Britain during the Plantation of Ulster to colonise Ireland. Britain did the same thing all over the world. Also, "Britain" is an island, it is the same as the UK.

[@neil4817]

@@DMG118 How is any person alive today responsible for the crimes of their ancestors?

[@FATHOLLYWOODB123]

@@neil4817 They wouldn't be if they accepted the history of the land, and accepted the natives. But till this day, they claim the land on behalf of the monarchy, which still causes the divide.

[@triple75]

Irish nationalism v British imperialism

[@highvalueproductions7655]

Irish terroism fs britian

[@dd1607]

@@highvalueproductions7655 Freedom fighting vs imperialist oppression

[@noobplays-saslow2920]

@@dd1607 UK is the only nation on Earth to consistently give its members the chance to vote on secession, everytime NI has been given this vote it has chosen to stay with the UK, just like every other part of the current nation. British Imperialism is long gone, the only imperialists here are the minority of Southern Irish who want to disrespect the democratic choice of the majority of Northern Ireland.

[@danielbradley753]

The problem in NI is that the moderate people of the country have been drowned out, the DUP and Sinn Fein have no intention of going back into power as one feels they have more power in Westminster and the other feels they strengthen their constitutional argument by the collapse of the government. There are 3 solutions: either the a new election is held to try and break the deadlock and hopefully the moderates such as the SDLP, UUP and Alliance get brought back in, Theresa May drops the DUP and holds a general election across the U.K. or there is a border poll to try and settle this once and for all though that last one is unlikely as it would further destabilise the U.K. economy in the run up to March. Of course there’s also the other (to be frank unwanted) option of do nothing

[@jessicabell5642]

Isn’t it hilarious how we sound when our voice is recorded

[@lockandloadlikehell]

Yes, I sound like an asshole

[@rinced706]

@@lockandloadlikehell same lol

[@YouTubeSupportTeams]

cringey and uneducated

[@edwardmulholland7912]

I recognized Sunningdale, the place I grew up. I moved from Belfast over 20 years ago. I’m sad that things have not moved on as much as I’d like. But still, it’s a great place and the people there are great in spite of what happened there, not because of it.

[@seanycage2610]

I live in North Belfast, we need the walls unfortunately.

[@ggff3761]

I P Freely definitely sure they're still throwing bombs over the walls

[@darrenlong9708]

Gg wise up

[@jayroberts4926]

IP FreelyWhy?

[@ggff3761]

Jay Roberts because people are still throwing bombs bottles stones etc over them regularly if they came down there would be trouble

[@darrenlong9708]

Gg dumb outsider

[@jeremyud]

I'm American and I'm shocked. I was taught that the Good Friday Agreement settled the problem.

[@PS-ru2ov]

not everyone in Northern Ireland lives a divided physically I am from Northern Ireland these areas are working class areas in other areas like where i live in Northern Ireland Protestants and catholics live in peace i live 50 miles from Belfast in my street we have both communities

[@danielfr5140]

P S aye like it’s mostly Belfast and Londonderry that’s divided I live a life with friends from both sides and honestly don’t know anyone that wouldn’t want to be friends with someone due to religion, know it still happens just saying I don’t know anyone

[@danielfr5140]

P S our younger generation will save us

[@jamiewalker1493]

No the ira told everyone British spoilers attacked them when the ira bombed the chippy and gunned down people then British shoulders went and killed the ira yes they killed inicent people but the ira had them do it if they didn't od that Britain wouldn't have searched for the ira

[@of218]

@@danielfr5140Derry*

[@frankieboyle6290]

more walls have been built since the GFA. The biggest walls are in peoples heads. if the walls in their heads came down. then the physical ones would also come down too. Can't see it happening in my lifetime.

[@lennonmacmaster1429]

Frankie Boyle Is this the real frankie boyle

[@kiersomcads6402]

Unfortunately I think u are right 😔

[@robert6106]

There is also the option to accept the walls and leave them were they are, why is a physical boundary a problem, be that a wall, a river, a sea or a mountain? Good boundaries make good neighbours.

[@bensanderson7144]

I agree. I’m an outsider, but I wonder if a repartition could happen. Antrim and Down are the only counties with unionist majorities. Why not just separate the two communities?

[@ryanlevins6306]

the wall stays built in my head until the theres a united ireland, then the sea will protect us like it has until the english arrived

[@apax2901]

Absolutely tragic city.. been to Belfast just yesterday and intentionally went out to the catholic and protestant neighbourhoods after the gates closed.. the contrast between the city centre and titanic part to Shankill and Falls Road and Bombay Street is just day and night. Absolutely terrific.

[@dv86boom11]

Dean is a credit to himself what hes gone through losing the people he's lost keep using the fists in the right way 👊👊

[@d3kingg387]

I want to go to Northern Ireland on holiday.

[@KingEire]

Do it's beautiful. Just don't go between the 6th to the 16th of July.

[@owendffa]

@@KingEire why??

[@KingEire]

@@owendffa KZbin July 12th Northern Ireland

[@BelfastCowboy]

David Blevins is simply one of the best reporters in the UK. It's still tragic that the language between both sides remains hostile. Well not all, I think there are many people in Northern Ireland that are so ready to move on, just move on. People on both sides and and some of the families have lost family members in the conflict. So it is possible.

[@Paulfieldz]

Dean is inspirational from what he has gone through, and I truly agree, I am from the south, I have loads of friends that are unionist's and they great mates , may we all be friends and look forward to bright and friendship community, great documentary btw Sky News and David , peace

[@barrywiltbarrywilt6331]

Glad I got out of it

[@brianmcgovern6207]

Why don't they say it what it really is.. British and Irish... Religion has very little to do with it...

[@xtusvincit5230]

Secular news wants ppl to think it's about religion as if they were arguing about the Eucharist. The problems are political, not religious.

[@garykidd5934]

It’s just sad 😔

[@leeorr9071]

The government should pull the walls down ASAP

[@johngibson396]

I feel for youth on both sides i am a koyalisst but i lok at people as people Sad so many young dead RIP

[@user-go3jv8rw7i]

I’m a nationalist. I want a United Ireland. I want peace, but I want a United Ireland

[@ryanodonnell6748]

God bless everyone in the short strand... Lots of love from ( PARKHEAD ) East end of Glasgow.. 💚🍀💛 x

[@robertohalloran9590]

Tál 32

[@GreenCocanix]

🇬🇧🇬🇧

[@jamiewalker1493]

@@Maxwell3773. 100%

[@redmustangredmustang]

The Good Friday Agreement has prevented bombings, and hard borders and the British army coming back, but the division will always be there. A fundamental change is going to be needed for divisions to bring people together. The older generation is dying off and hopefully the new generation will want change. It's hard to get over hundreds of years of wars and religion.

[@SuperBlanze]

Aye, her community didn't bat an eye lol

[@JaneAmericanIrish777]

The Irish always tested but they are a strong bunch and will fight on ! 👊🇮🇪God bless them ALL...

[@acesilver2227]

JaneIrish Kuhner here here

[@caleb4790]

JaneIrish Kuhner the British are a stronger bunch 🇬🇧

[@eibhlin5940]

@Kekistani nationalist Says a weirdo that spends his WHOLE day spewing out anti Irish hate on Irish vids.... 😏

[@eibhlin5940]

@mcr1jp Yes Britain is represented by a bulldog,although now it's more a half breed mongrel...

[@RobertK1993]

Ellie 26 Ulster Scots are failures at the present time not the winners they use to be.

[@JayandSarah]

Religion stamped at birth. That's an interesting comment. Nobody needs to be bound by religion due to birth.

[@d3kingg387]

I am American. I am born again Christian. I was born Jewish. Now I’m Christian

[@yeah7046]

When is this rivalry gonna end Sunni-Shia and Catholics- Protestants.

[@lorenzoeli2939]

Interestingly in the past sunni Shia never had proper violence against each other they sort of just got on - I think,

[@robert6106]

The religious context of N Ireland was more a lazy media label than a proper explanation of a political conflict.

[@jimkoriorpani6651]

@@lorenzoeli2939 what still in Afghanistan and Iraq and Pakistan they are bombing each others mosque

[@richardgoode5657]

A wall as to divide Belfast a communtiy as a divide a country as a Northern Ireland a hope as a country in a life time as Northern Ireland as my life time or a Northern Ireland as a life time in Ireland.

[@Pkia-tm7gw]

No 'HOPE' here! A 'Terrible Pity'! Stupidity meets Stupidity !

[@KrazyKatPosse]

Up the Republic 🇮🇪

[@paulmattt]

How can they tell Catholics and Protestants apart- different accents, clothes?

[@naomimarkey-kelly8734]

Crazy place i dont think ill be alright in the protestant areas in Belfast but can go live back in London ill be grand

[@18986aprilia]

1 question. Who's the da?😂

[@mks8172]

How about a unite Ireland but as part of the UK.

[@trishadick3786]

fool

[@robert6106]

Nope, the ROI could join but never as a Untied Ireland, they made their choice to break away and the rest of us have suffered the political instability ever since.

[@bezsie8518]

Can't believe this exists in 2021.🙄 What a shame!

[@bigbadredsox]

The names have changed but that is all. Same game, same shame. 2024 is coming!!!!

[@caleb4790]

bigbadredsox what’s in 2024

[@beachboy0505]

Good video

[@oisinmccormack1983]

Since 1949

[@dylanpower5362]

Since 1149

[@amandabeaty1492]

Why can't the British population of northern Ireland not be able to keep their British culture if they become part of a United Ireland?

[@eibhlin5940]

Why wouldn't they ? I personally don't want Ireland to be reunited but if Unionist respected our culture and stopped burning our flags etc,I would respect theirs back equally,and maybe even change my mind about a United Ireland if it wasn't one fueled in hate...

[@amandabeaty1492]

@@eibhlin5940 "Keep NI British" why does it matter what country they belong to? They'll still be British, would they not?! Or do they view it from a nationality point of view more than an ethnicity?

[@zarahh5203]

to make it easier why don't they just move back to England if they want to be a part of the culture so bad? it's a win win situation for everyone and Irland can finally live in peace after the British occupation.

[@paulbradynsno8513]

@@zarahh5203 tell the protestants that anyway I'm.britush from England we own northern ireland

[@mikki3562]

Britain must leave Ireland completely. When Britain leaves, British sectarianism goes with it. Unionism is simply the ideology of the British empire which is maintained by Britain in a country that is not theirs. It can never be normal and peaceful so long as Britain occupies this part of Ireland.

[@YumiV]

No most of NI want to stay in the uk, if they vote to leave that’s a different story. It’s not the loyalists that cause the issue it’s the Catholics

[@WhatChaMaCalum]

What church one may or may not vist on the Sabbath day has nothing to with the Northern Irish troubles it's a cultural and political struggle for dominance between two people's the reason it's still dragging on is because we're still at a stalemate and froced power sharing doesn't help.

[@StealthyAuto]

I see this land as Northern Ireland/Ulster for both Northern and Irish people have the right to live and work. Us in the other UK countries (England, Scotland, Wales) still mostly have to deal with the dirty, occupying, land grabbing and undemocratic monarchy! When Scotland becomes a republic, then all other areas will (and if Northern Irish Ulster wishes to become a republic or join with Ireland it should). We should all fight and be against the British monarchy in England!

[@frankieboyle6290]

@@StealthyAuto. Well said. And as a Scottish man. I want nothing more than a free country. Away from Britain.

[@StealthyAuto]

If your people decide they want out of the UK, let it be. One republic for Scotland should mean republics for all UK countries.

[@dvrn86]

@@StealthyAuto Scotland may become independent but it won't become a republic.

[@oregoon3988]

Up the RA

[@annhennessy6618]

THE ENGLISH STARTED ALL THIS, 800 YEARS OF SHITE.😩 CARBURY.💚 😚 GB IRELAND

[@victorlory7233]

il a raison de ses cendres, la plupart ont changé au-delà de la reconnaissance sur les rives du Lagon, ils sont passés de la construction de navires à la construction de la paix ... mais ils ont gratté la surface et vous trouvez autre chose une ville toujours divisée par des murs 99 d'entre eux sont encore des rues ségrégué par les ruptures de mortier et la religion. dans certaines régions, ils verrouillent les portes chaque soir entre catholiques et protestants et malgré les hypothèses, notre sondage exclusif a révélé que les jeunes sont tout aussi divisés que la génération plus âgée. c'est l'histoire de Belfast aujourd'hui 20 ans après l'accord du Vendredi Saint. Ils surveillent les lignes d'allure entre les deux communautés dans ces véhicules blindés. La menace d'attaque ici est toujours jugée sévère. Le nord et l'ouest de Belfast sont les parties les plus difficiles et les plus dangereuses de cette ville. Les espoirs et les rêves d'un avenir partagé sont loin de la réalité moderne, un côté marche pour une Irlande unie, l'autre marche pour rester au Royaume-Uni.

[@gawagreen1590]

wee all bleed the same colour

[@Peter111ization]

The only way to sort out the problem is for a united Ireland.

[@RohitChouhan-dj7se]

26+6=1

[@weescotsguy66]

Cannot believe they still have the walls after all these years, both sides are at fault for not drawing up a list of demolition plan...Over 3 years max

[@anthonyburke3428]

George Sweeten there is a reason the walls are still up! It will take generations! Brexit just makes things worse!

[@caleb4790]

George Sweeten if there gone there will be trouble

[@ggff3761]

George Sweeten they still throw blast bombs, petrol bombs and stones over the walls regularly

[@ajorngjdonaydbr]

who is "they" exactly?

[@ggff3761]

HerbalTerrorist86 prods

[@mattbarrick05]

United British isles I think would be the simplest way. Neither London or Dublin would be the capital. Belfast or Liverpool would be better.

[@jody1367]

STOP! It has never been an Irish border. Its a British sanctioned imposed one on the island of Ireland.

[@moguehabdifarah1452]

😭😭😭

[@tangobaboon1923]

The loyalists condemned our country to being remembered as a war zone and not for its real Irish culture

[@robert6106]

Yea the loyalists made the IRA plant all them bombs and kill them catholic judges, police men, soldiers, prison officers and people shopping at the fish mongers.

[@robert6106]

@Diarmaid O'Riordan We are also Irish, more than one voice on this Island and we want to be left alone in our own little corner of our island. Your dream is our nightmare and we want nothing to do with it, we didn't make the IRA plant bombs or kill anyone, that was the IRA. Its their responsibility 100%. From 1916 till today, the IRA in it's many forms choose to kill it's fellow Irishmen because they wanted to be British.

[@noobplays-saslow2920]

@Diarmaid O'Riordan The only foreign oppressor in Northern Ireland is the IRA and South Ireland, the UK is the only nation on Earth to give its member states the opportunity to vote on secession regularly, everytime NI has had this vote the majority have chosen to stay with the UK, the only imperialists here are the Southern Irish who want to throw away the democratic choice of the majority of Northern Ireland.

[@stevenhosick1493]

2020 still nothin F A P

[@nutritionfacts8871]

United Ireland!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@IrishTechnicalThinker]

My father was murdered by loyalist paramilitaries in 1993. England has a huge responsibility, the military made matters much worse, by dropping paratroopers here. What the British did, was same as what Germany did to take over Holland in world war two.

[@anthonyfox1436]

Irish Technical Thinker Sorry man

[@eibhlin5940]

Sorry to hear that honestly 💚

[@BuddyStoll]

many fathers were murdered by Republican paramilitaries too. evil on both sides

[@wide_awake]

Crazy that these walls need to be in place still

[@JK_JK_JK_JK]

😱 That Accent Though!!! 😱

[@canterdale]

Shut up

[@JK_JK_JK_JK]

_General Person_ 😨😨😨😨😨😨😨😨😨😨😨😨😨

[@JohnKobaRuddy]

Yeah its Irish. All wannabe Brits have one. Naw hi sure am British so a am

[@johnkelly1787]

John every person on the planet has an accent, mine is Irish Midlands, but I cannot understand strong Ulster accents, or deep Kerry accents, slainte, slan,

[@bernadettehiggins5447]

What's wrong with it the language

[@Guinness1066]

What's funny is that people don't realise that an actual civil war would engulf the whole of the island if they surrendered the north. Typical media trying to get hits on their articles 🤣

[@bernadettehiggins5447]

Scumbags

[@bernadettehiggins5447]

Laughter isn't funny ya know

[@dylanpower5362]

But the entire civil war stopped 20 years ago... Irelands still here..

[@trishadick3786]

a border poll for a unified Ireland wouldn't be a surrender it would be a choice and if it voted for unification that would be the will of the ppl in Ireland would it not

[@ryanbyrne259]

Amen to al that

[@ciaraskeleton]

Did she take one drama class, write a script, and this was the product? I'd stick to the oul day job if I were her, cringe

[@irishpoacher917]

The Ulster nightmare

[@WillScarlet1991]

🎄🎄🎄🎄

[@tomkeane1670]

Éire 32🇮🇪🇮🇪

[@bernadettehiggins5447]

1000000p%

[@danielinnicg2114]

solution intergated schools

[@seanycage2610]

Didn't really solve racial hatred in America.

[@danielinnicg2114]

+I P Freely what is the racial hatered about over there? how did it get that bad?

[@frankieboyle6290]

There are a few integrated schools. But on a grand scale it won't work. I wish I was wrong. And I'd love nothing more than it to work. But I just know it won't.

[@frankieboyle6290]

@@danielinnicg2114. Its about the British government stealing land. From the native ppl of Ireland. And they use religion as a way of deflecting the blame from them. They did the same all over the world. With their divide and rule policy.

[@seanycage2610]

@@danielinnicg2114 no, I was comparing racial hatred there to sectarian hatred here.

[@bhoy67lisbon]

All the authorities have to do split up housing arrangements. Every other house is catholic or Protestant. Learn to live together. If they don’t like it, they can sleep on the streets

[@thethomond]

They tried this but catholics were forced out.

[@Blueblood1873]

@@thethomond They've only tried to do it in Loyalists areas, that's probably why. Maybe try and do it in a place away from both Republican and Loyalist influence?

[@guillaume2608]

😂👍🔥

[@Hugh311]

Tiocfaidh Ár Lá

[@ruairijoseph]

Britain will have to leave sooner or later and loyalists will have a choice... either stay and participate as equals with everyone else on the island or leave for Britain. Problem with that is... Scotland may destroy Britain in the meantime. Change is coming. TAL

[@papadoc711]

Lol religion.

[@superstarshaker7402]

Religion..... my imaginary friend is better than your imaginary friend

[@jennifergower2172]

g

[@StealthyAuto]

I see this land as Northern Ireland/Ulster for both Northern and Irish people have the right to live and work. Us in the other UK countries (England, Scotland, Wales) still mostly have to deal with the dirty, occupying, land grabbing and undemocratic monarchy! When Scotland becomes a republic, then all other areas will (and if Northern Irish Ulster wishes to become a republic or join with Ireland it should). We should all fight and be against the British monarchy in England!

[@francisboyle1379]

TRUE M8, the English have caused so much trouble all over the world, with their divide and rule, policy

[@kurby1235]

WATP

[@chrisoleary9876]

Is sé Éire aontaithe an t-aon fhreagra ar an gceist seo. Téigh ar ais go Sasana. Tá sé thar am anois.

[@hangsamich3098]

Le cheile taimid laidir, se mo le mo ghile mear :)

[@keithbawden7940]

Where is the Love of Christ????

[@anthonyburke3428]

Rishi This and?

[@anthonyburke3428]

Rishi This I understand now! The tin foil hat a bit tight!

[@johnkelly1787]

Keith Bawden it had nothing to do with religion, it was racist extermination by Britain, go and learn some history

[@acesilver2227]

Hes not even real

[@lucastodd2052]

@@acesilver2227 that's an odd statement

[@deeoneill9158]

🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪

[@narendrapatel9144]

UISTER IS BRITISH GOD BLESS HM KING WILLIAM THE III

[@davebrayfb]

In your dreams TAL 5 YEARS A UNITED IRELAND ,,,, GET USED TO IT

[@tarcioleoterio8795]

The most dificult accent to understand ever. Wow......

[@bernadettehiggins5447]

How Whats wrong with it

[@parrmik]

Britain should cut ireland loose. There is absolutely nothing to keep this alliance together. Religion can no longer be blamed; it is dead.The two opposing forces have simply turned their organisations to crime So much for caring about ireland.These so called patriots would like nothing more than blame it all on the english. Ninety nine percent of the fighting, was never about republican/loyalist, it was about power and blind tradition and money.

[@michaellovely6601]

The UK uses Northern Ireland as an economic buffer zone between themselves and the Republic of Ireland as Ireland is still a member of the European Union whereas the UK famously exited the EU in what is called Brexit. Since Brexit; there is an increasing possibility that Northern Ireland will vote in favor of uniting with the Republic of Ireland, which is permitted under the Good Friday Agreement of 1998. If Northern Ireland does unite with the Republic under the leadership of the Irish government in Dublin; I strongly suspect that London will fear the possibility of Scotland and Wales declaring independence and setting up their own governments in Edinburgh and Cardiff because if Northern Ireland unites with the Republic, London loses its economic buffer zone.

[@ira5272]

Doesn’t have to be like this throw the prods out

[@wayneriley6720]

As soon as they mentioned brexit I switched off

[@johngibson396]

SKY BACKER OF THE EU THE PEOPLE OF THE UK NOT

[@bucko790]

Religions should be outlawed how many people on our plane have died over this utter nonsense ☹

[@mojanglova]

There wasn't that many people on the plane, it was the people in the tower there was a lot of

[@thethomond]

It is nothing to do with religion . It is about UK imperial dominance.

[@robdubz1510]

most sf supporters are atheist tbh

[@lucastodd2052]

What if Christ isn't nonsense?

[@PhilHoy97]

It has very little to do with religion, more to do with imperialism, culture and politics. There were the same problems when the Normans invaded and they were Catholic as well. Religion was just a coincidence and is used by people so they don’t have to own up to the fact that the problems all stem from British imperialism

[@zx10rmac84]

Fake news I say✌🏻🇬🇧

[@DonnaSCurran]

Give northern Ireland to the UN let them deal with it.

[@zarahh5203]

hahah no.

[@oliveangus5568]

The UN should have been sent to Northern Ireland in 1969 not the British Army, probably would have been a different outcome

[@robert6106]

The out come would have been the unionist population turning to the UDA and UVF rather than joining the Police and British Army. It would have ran out of control in the early 70s.

[@jb894]

irish always the victim lol

[@Email-mu1mv]

Give Northern ireland to China and we will "deal" with the problem like we done to Tibet and Uighrs.

[@gezley100]

It wasn't religion that caused the conflict. It was Protestantism.