Linkin Park "The Hunting Party" Tour 2014 • Front of House Ken „Pooch“ Van Druten about the Sound

Linkin Park have been in business for almost twenty years - one of the best-selling bands of the decade. Ken "Pooch" Van Druten at the Front of House and Vic Wagner as Systech create the Wall of Sound live.
The sound reinforcement system is a VTX system from JBL. Pooch and Vic are satisfied with the equipment, they don't need a delay line and praise the distortion-free reproduction even at high sound pressure levels.
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[@Auxknob1]

"Pooch," Big Mick and Dave Natale. 3 names synonymous with pure genius. Can you imagine if the guys got together for a sound man version of "It might get loud?"

[@thecooldrummer]

I love this guys whole approach to live sound, so simple despite having all the gear you could ever ask for.

[@DirkArnez]

I am simple, i see Pooch, i click like

[@seanalbert6564]

What any production guy will tell you. You learn these things best by doing them, and playing with the gear.

[@slaction]

Since you're covering professional audio, how about even volume levels for all of the segments in the videos?

[@TerryPoirier32]

He's not the one finalizing the audio for this video.

[@Nj1498]

@@TerryPoirier32 Yes, but the person editing the video could have at least tried.

[@RickK1988]

Who ever did the mixing and editing for the audio in this video did an absolute shit job. The occasional blasts of static noise is insanely irritating.

[@pickslider3334]

@@RickK1988 If you’re talking about about the noise for example at the 4:50 mark, that’s pink noise generated by a PA tech being picked up in the recording. Not a problem generated in creation of the content.

[@aswinkrishnar1987]

That mixer !!!

[@info.recruitwingevents1448]

wow!!! ilove sd7 console....

[@monmixer]

That's right..it's true across the spectrum. I'm not scared of a consol. Mic placement gain structure, EQ and high pass..I like my comps and gates though. A bit of FX. It takes a long time to completely know every parameter of a digital console. for live concerts 90 % of that isn't needed.

[@TheLivingDeadOne]

I remember seeing VH outdoors I think it was a monsters of rock concert at giants stadium? It was a long time ago,. I was on the floor, all groups were fine volume wise, but then VH came on,. I was there by the stage for a very short time before I had to get away from the stage. I mean far away. It was so fucking loud for no reason. My ears hurt right now just thinking about it.

[@nookies10]

Reading comments and people be like "SHOULD BE 120dB". Have you ever withstood 110dB LAEQ for an entire song to say that ? That's how you get deaf. People need to understand loudness and respect the music.

[@TheMrmitch65]

Marc Zedda i remember I was sitting right by the sound desk at a concert once and these techs were like 20 and they were pumping out sound at like 170db and I leaned over and said "hearing damage starts at 90" they just looked at me and said "oh shit..." He turned it down next song to about 110db...

[@allanmulimbayan6071]

Marc Zedda iii

[@jeremyburd20021]

I go to 92 dB’s and that’s about the highest I’ll go

[@larssonphoto]

I would love to hear a PA that could play att 170dB...

[@jamestaylor8324]

Look up the decibel scale, you don't seem to understand it... a jet engine is around 135-140dB, you would be permanently damaged at 140dB, 100dB is 10x the power factor of 90db and 110 is 10x the power factor of 100dB and 1000x power factor of 90dB... 170dB is quite loud... your PA would't be able to reach that :')

[@ErikTheAndroid]

"Nobody should lose their hearing coming to a rock show" Amen to that, I do not understand why engineers have such an obsession with pumping out absurdly high volumes, it sounds worse and damages ears.

[@cognito2423]

I like to think its because they're deaf at this point. Kidding...sorta.

[@patriotbarrow]

You may be more right than we'd like to admit.

[@amongtheonly4508]

"learn it and poke at it and see what stuff does" LOL

[@jamesba-xd7xf]

"we dont want to anyone coming to our concert to lose their hearing"......sir 100DBA for 2 hours will cause temporary threshold shift in hearing and probably permanant threshold shift.. 100DBA is only safe for 5-15 minutes MAX. no way in hell would I go to this concert without ear plugs. motorhead plays at 116-122DBC on the front row and is considered the loudest band so yes you are "quiet" compared to them and others. note, in my personal home stereo I listen at 90-105DBC and 80-95DBA but I limit my sessions to 30 minutes-1 hour for 2-3 days a week only. 100DBA is extremly loud and uncomfortable to my ears and 110DBA is utterly insane. if anyone doesnt believe 100DBA is "that loud" it is proof you have already ruined your hearing and have a 20-50DB loss in hearing. look at pete townsend, phil collins, etc.. NO concert is worth ruining your hearing over.

[@larssonphoto]

Do you have any proof of what you are saying? 100dB isn't extremely loud, that is the recommended upper level here in Sweden but the legal limit is around 106-107 if there are no kids around... But you measure loudness over time, 100dB LAeq over 1 hour, so if you play at like 95dB at the beginning you can play a bit louder at the end of the concert. There are no problem with playing 100dB for a 2-3 hour concert and it will not cause any permanent hearing damage... I measure EVERY concert I do and I ALWAYS follow the legal limits.

[@lp1177]

R.I.P Greatest Vocalist of all time

[@TempoDrift1480]

陳緒超 Or not... If you think he's the greatest vocalist of all time then you are either 4 or you've been on prison since 1940. A better way to say it might be that he's your favorite but greatest? Im going to say not even close.

[@tekarts]

Can you make a desk work with a donut and pirate earring?

[@NCZCushGold]

Hi Can i ask if i can visit your company?

[@Pplouch]

Reaper 11:06

[@dreammakerseventmanagement3358]

sir want to work with you

[@KiLLACAiN]

jah know! i would love a job like this! how does someone get into a career doing what you do?

[@wiechersjm9]

+KiLLA CAiN (DEMG) Get a job as a stage hand at a local club. Thats where i started.

[@kylelynch8888]

Have you encountered any problems with the common ground on the CAT Snakes?

[@larssonphoto]

Kyle Lynch Larger Digico desks run OptoCore so optical fiber. No one at that scale is running Copper any more.

[@ranjithmathewkanjiramvila9151]

what is the chinese microphone he referring

[@12345432111110]

Ranjit Mathew . Kanjiramvila se electronics SE4400A-ST

[@richardbelisle4807]

Hi pass gain structure eq….yes sir….how about little to no stage volume ….assume you are out with the maiden ….thanks for the Covid vids…🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@christiaanbezuidenhout6984]

Why does Pooch remind me of Jim Breuer?

[@evankeal]

Ill bet he likes a direct signal that utilizes no microphones, amps or speakers. Rock shows are quite tame equipment wise than they used to be.

[@rifkaarifsyahroni3464]

SD7 how much is it ?

[@yeungkumwah]

New USD250K, Used USD100K

[@abishekaravind7707]

Can anyone tell me....is analog or digital mixer is more easy to handle for a live concert????

[@vishwajyothishp4537]

It is the digital mixer i would say cz u have almost everything virtually available infront of you but in an analog mixer you need to get external racks to solve the same and it might hinder the work flow a bit

[@larssonphoto]

I would say if you can’t handle the analog gear and know how all of that works then you’re not ready to go digital yet!

[@thegreenguy8837]

I grew up with analog, and i still prefere it for most cases. I think it comes down to personal preferences and what you can handle more self insured. For example i feel safer because navigation and reaction Times just work better for me.

[@classix2132]

Digital is making technician works much easy more comfact but still i love alnalog mixer thats where all it begins

[@RyanDanielBrown2011]

Both are good although you have double the setup time with analog plus if someone turns a knob it’s harder to figure out where it’s at the digital stuff these days sounds great it’s clean easy to setup and more consistent but I think we can all agree is if you polish a turd it’s still a turd in other words if the band sucks or nothing is miced properly or drums are not tuned it’s gonna make your life hard as an engineer

[@oceanwav_]

Can someone tell me what 96K sounds like?

[@Descriptor_]

Like silence.

[@snapascrew]

brighter.

[@oopiv3273]

Space

[@jakebrickley8389]

no different to 48kHz

[@andrewrosene7732]

Jake Brickley You’re either deaf, terrible at math, a christian audio engineer or all of the above.

[@MixedbyJMART]

axe fx wins again!

[@Aligi1837]

Jetzt erklärt mir bitte mal was daran so verf..kt schwer ist, den Ton auf eine halbwegs vernünftige Basis zu bekommen?! Ist es echt für 2017 eine unlösbare Aufgabe oder wo ist das Problem? Im Interview spricht er als würde er ins Mikro nuscheln und die Szene darauf sprengt es fast mein Trommelfell! Arbeitet halb KZbin noch mit dem Movie Maker oder was ist da los?

[@kaiulrich6185]

No offense but he looks a lot like David Lee Roth in the role of that „big“ producer in the video of „ Going Crazy“

[@Arthur-ke9vz]

Pooch has a serious flaw, that is he doesn’t mix loud!!!! The first 12 rows with this type of music should be PHYSICALLY PAINFUL!!!!!!!!!

[@kaiulrich6185]

@@Arthur-ke9vz You are missing the fact that we are living in times of line arrays. System engineers are working their butt of to make sure, every single seat gets the same volume and the same sound. Oh and we are living in times of volume restrictions, too.

[@deeznutz7330]

Why do they need to connect together? Let stand on their own and make the show more interesting.

[@VWGTI2013]

I think he means as far as the EQ changing from song to song. How the EQ reacts to every song

[@miicar204]

run a club/synth EQ on a straight rock song, and all you will hear is bass and resonating tones...ie, massive setting changes all the way through the chain, from input to main out, for different styles of music. preset song settings on a digital board make this and other issues (quick singer, band changes) one touch simple, instead of having to ref your paper notes and set all the knobs and switches manually!

[@jjaann3]

at 100db you can have hearing damage in 10 minutes. at 90 db only after 1 hour. something to think about when you say 100 db is not that loud. With the gear and line arrays you use to get a good spreading it can probably be a nice volume at 95 db over 15 minutes or less i tink.

[@jacobsibbit2835]

Depends what frequency it is, at lower frequencys its different

[@kylelynch8888]

Could probably save a pile of setup time by cutting the PA in half if you are running it at 100dB and still get the coverage.

[@Thetimrobertson]

Length of array determines the lowest frequency it will have pattern control for. Making it smaller means the sound will suffer at lower freq's and create more bleed on to the stage. Also, more boxes means better resolution in terms of even coverage front to back. So no, fewer boxes is not a good idea.

[@andrewrosene7732]

Kyle Lynch You obviously haven’t EVER run FOH in a stadium.

[@deeznutz7330]

This whole video is like: Well DUH NO SHIT.

[@080519971]

Maybe You might Teach Us Alittle of sound What recognition do you have ?? And What audio do you use??? What major tour have you Mix To make such Comments??

[@allanox]

+Dee Znutz it's difficult to really TALK about sound stuff. It's very intuitive and technicality really just adds weight to the task of conveing something that you do. This is somewhat the beauty of true sound engineering, you don't really KNOW what you are doing, it's rather based on feeling and when you feel (or hear) what you want to acheive then the technicality just helps you acheive it. So even if the guy sounds unconvicing then what does he care, he's probably having a great time doing what he does. And TBH I think he knows what he's talking about, perhaps the receiving end might be the problem here.

[@andrewrosene7732]

Dee Znutz I found this video quite entertaining. Love to trade resumes sometime.

[@TheGameCamer360]

I’m sorry but adamson knocks any Jbl system out of the park

[@victorprudeaux500]

and vue audiotechnik knocks adamson

[@jasoncary7957]

and Peavy better than JBL

[@ErikTheAndroid]

Audio engineer doesn't know how to use a microphone. K.

[@mthrfcknwbbl]

+ErikTheAndroid they must've used too much gain to have it feedback at your computer

[@larssonphoto]

Does it sound bad? I don't see any problem here...

[@JPK1337]

for fucks sake. db is a RELATIVE measurement for dampening. it's not absolute. stop pretending so.

[@musicinyouandme]

If someone reads this, then please feel free to correct me, because I am NOT an expert. From what I have understood db is relative to whatever reference you are measuring, but he clearly says db(a), where 0 db(a) is 20 micro pascal. Doesn't that make it absolute? Or are you referring to something else?

[@TheUckles]

@@musicinyouandme db is a direct conversion from pascal into a logarithmic scale, dba is a filter applied to these that is supposed to mimic the human ear (we hear low frequencies alot quieter so you can go ham with them without hearing damage)

[@kaislivesoundchannel4706]

The guy looks a bit like the fat brother, that David Lee Roth impersonates in „Going Crazy“