A COMPLETELY Upgradeable Laptop? - Framework Laptop Review

[@thevan605]

Their site crashed due to too many viewers going and taking a look. That's how you know a review is good.

[@band1t-eats-batteries716]

It did?😂

[@user-vq3mz9ob9d]

Literally wanted to order one just now

[@theguywithevids]

Just checked to see if anyone else noticed. We gave it the hug of death

[@maximartamonov4563]

Searched for comment like that!)

[@nathannguyen7449]

I’m happy it’s getting more views now, was wondering when it’ll pop off

[@Verlisify]

Please let this succeed so everything is like this in the future

[@takumi1360]

First reply

[@fongus6420]

Yes, please. I have no use for a laptop, I like using a large desktop. But if somebody decided to make a modular smartphone, I would buy that immediately.

[@dialectiks]

YES

[@doublepmcl6391]

I agree 😃

[@darecrise]

I can see Apple or another one buying them just to get rid of them. I have seen laptop manufacturers putting 1600€ price tags on repairs for 800€ machines. The either want you to buy new or overcharge on repair.

[@Alvin-eq5rc]

I want to see this company succeed. Many company that say they’re trying to be “environment friendly” this is environment and user friendly

[@rib_rob_personal]

No electronic is environmentally friendly. I love them but it's the sad truth. It definitely is a step in the right direction though. :)

[@fernandomel3117]

​@@rib_rob_personal yes, your existence is not environmentally friendly

[@James-le8gd]

@@fernandomel3117 I mean technically the truth... depends what you define as the "environment" though. If humans cease existing is that "good" for the environment?

[@fernandomel3117]

@@James-le8gd exactly

[@JJ_436]

@@rib_rob_personal It's environmentally friendly-er

[@matthewtrebs9738]

Update: almost 2 years later they're more upgradable than ever. They now support amd 7000 and intel 13th gen motherboards to swap, and louder speakers, bigger battery upgrade, a matte screen option, and theyre dropping a 16 inch with even more customization

[@imran_huseyn]

It aged incredibly well. As an absolute laptop hater, Framework might be my first go go.

[@eye-chan1711]

Instant they drop a 360 degree art version I am going to buy it so fast that time goes backwards and I get disappointed because I can't buy one anymore.

[@gargaj]

I've had mine for a little more than a year now and I couldn't love it more.

[@skytheidiott]

​@@eye-chan1711 how do you know that this hasn't happened to you already? 🤔

[@Omega-mr1jg]

I want it, but its the same price as some gaming PCs....plus im from turkey

[@rossmanngroup]

I hope this product & this company lives up to what they're trying to do and is able to produce many more amazing, like minded products. Preferably with a trackpoint 😈

[@joshuaetalley]

hey louis

[@prondiest]

this was honestly, new standard.

[@jerbear1204]

Nothing can ever replace the TrackPoint for its devout users!

[@BR0KK85]

Trackpoint the implement must .... And ryzen plz

[@plumokin5535]

I completely agree. This is such a well made product and it gives me hope for the future. Also thank you for everything you do in that space as well.

[@JarrodsTech]

Customizing where you want the ports is pretty sweet!

[@keshavmittal6365]

Hello sir!!

[@sanobet882]

Hi sir, agree

[@just.jack1011]

Best part man

[@tsuukasaaa]

It's pog

[@vaibhavbv3409]

Great. But does it come without the windows preinstallation.

[@Verlisify]

I can't believe the amount of care that went into this. EVERY little thing that people usually forget about after the initial inconvenience are considered

[@EmeraldSpencer]

Imagine how amazing it would be if they made a capture card attachment.

[@Nanoshock840]

I can't believe u copied poketips

[@Verlisify]

@@Nanoshock840 I can't believe it either because it literally never happened

[@rage7658]

@@EmeraldSpencer tbh you could probably make one yourself with a 3d printer and a male usb c connector if you wanted to

[@ichabodlorax7585]

Okay, so now we have evidence here that you can, in fact, type without going all-caps on most of the words. This is something new.

[@Timeward76]

8:50 The fact that when this thing eventually becomes obsolete, you could just easily take out the motherboard and repurpose it for some other project is briliant

[@Epsicronics]

And with the additional BIOS options like start on ac you can even use it as a headless server once you no longer use it as a laptop, its amazing

[@TimeBucks]

Seems like Framework is on the right path

[@spacecadet_01]

am i tripping or are there like 100 accounts with checkmark all over youtube right now commenting on random videos i mean

[@imSomebody-m4c]

@@spacecadet_01 stfu

[@aidan8533-i1t]

@@imSomebody-m4c nice picture dweeb

[@oliverb.8995]

and ur not

[@matp.4360]

It is a cool idea, however I don't believe they will succeed, though hope they do. Most people just buy a laptop and don't upgrade them.

[@nessuno__]

And Linus crashed their website. I guess a lot of people find this compelling.

[@themightypool]

not the best framework after all then

[@playeee]

I went on the website to check it out and in under 5mins of me being there the website crashed 2times

[@Jerry-pk8tj]

For what its worth i saw starting at 749 usd on the google search for those interested but unable to get to the website rn

[@tombrauey]

Absolutely. A colleague and me are both due new notebooks at work and I could totally see us going this route (alternative would be the latest Lenovo Thinkpad T series)

[@jezzaRTW]

Yup. They crashed the website!! Tried to check it out too!

[@orangejuice]

"The dell's not even fkn thinner" You can tell Linus is genuinely impressed with what Framework has done lol

[@afallingtree9114]

yeah for sure, i think he knows how monumental this could be for the laptop space.

[@iamsosad1429]

@L-dragonix I know same question

[@TonyTwo8192]

OJ? What are you doing here?

[@afallingtree9114]

@@TonyTwo8192 showing appreciation for what could be one of the most monumental laptops within the passed several years i presume.

[@Epicked]

I didn't know Oj was here

[@noahbraasch7854]

Got mine a few days ago. It's definitely the coolest thing I've ever owned. The trackpad is not great, but I'm literally not even concerned because when a new, better one comes out I can just .. swap it! It's so cool!

[@theratking14]

i just ordered one and im wondering how long it took to get there because i cannot find anything on their website

[@noahbraasch7854]

@@theratking14 I live in the us. It came from Taiwan and took just over a week. The longest part was getting verified at customs because FedEx does not examine packages over the weekend I don't think.

[@theratking14]

@@noahbraasch7854 ah i see thank you! im so fuckin excited i saw this video awhile ago and i haven’t been able to get one until just now.

[@noahbraasch7854]

@@theratking14 haha good stuff. What config did you opt for?

[@theratking14]

@@noahbraasch7854 i got the i5-1240p, 1tb sn850 nvme and 16gb of ddr4 (i assume that is what you mean)

[@LKonstantina915]

lets not forget about the reduced ewaste since if something breaks, you dont need to throw away the entire fking laptop and you can easily repair it yourself.

[@hallucy2215]

stfú bçh

[@matt-i3r6w]

*Apple has left the chat.

[@DFX2KX]

@@hallucy2215 You know how much my city has to pay to recycle electronics? Yeah, comes out of my taxes. I for one approve. Not to mention the fact that it's *cheaper* to replace a module.

[@nezunish-2-824]

Yeah especially if your battery is dead you only need to replace the battery instead of the entire laptop

[@williambrown3699]

do they let you choose specifically what comes in the package so you don't *HAVE* to get extra parts when you buy it? if so that would reduce waste even more

[@christophermullins7163]

This company just got the best advertisement of their entire existence.

[@NoviceIdiot]

Yeah I'm buying this as soon as it's available in my region

[@brandonstevens6886]

@@NoviceIdiot same tbh

[@gastonchevalet7342]

It is very much deserved

[@TzLTriiCkzZ]

Companies spend more on huge advertising campaigns to make up for poor products. This company just made a really good product and let it do the talking.

[@sarathwithana1770]

The framework site was going hay wire today. I suspect this is the reason

[@ex0stasis72]

Ok those QR codes on each internal component really impressed me.

[@soapy4607]

I cant but only imagine that one might be a Rick roll

[@rockraphlegal]

@@soapy4607 if it did, I wouldn't even be mad, that'd be amazing

[@cozymonk]

Framework has chassis intrusion sensors. The difference is they don't lock you out of your device, just let you (or an admin) know that your laptop was opened and, if you didn't consent to that, you should check into that.

[@dabossman3924]

Which is a good way to so that Chassis intrusion sensors shouldn't brick the device until it's closed and stuff.

[@normie7464]

The fact that we are surprised by a company that makes a product with the consumer as first priority in mind should be a reality check.

[@danielnelson4881]

A first priority is never what I expected, personally. I'd like for their first priority to be them keeping their doors open, if they have a great product I'd like to be able to continue to purchase. Second priority, I would settle for. Not: keeping the doors open>making the CEO rich as tits> making investors richer than tits>making sure the stuff breaks > making sure they make more money once stuff breaks> the garden in front of their main office staying beautiful>did we forget anything?> Oh yeah, the customer.. I guess he can be satisfied with whatever is left. Oh, there's nothing left? Do we have any pens or something we can send them? No... Well, we need better marketing I think then... Let's just plug that in somewhere between stuff breaking and the garden, I think.

[@Fritzafella]

Amen brother.

[@jazeenharal6013]

@@danielnelson4881 lol, amen to that. It's a shame what's out there. I have an old Dell Latitude from like 2007 that still serves as a backup workhorse laptop, and it's just so amazing. Great for basic internet, videos, movies, music, office stuff, etc. Hell, it even runs many games from the PS3-era pretty well with its dedicated Nvidia GPU. Literally everything is replaceable: battery, RAM, wifi module, extra HDD slot, optical drive...even the Core2Duo CPU is ported and upgradeable. It was definitely designed to be used for a long time. And that's why it's still serving strong in 2021 despite being built in 2007, haha. I know that I sure as heck don't expect my little Asus ultrabook to still be kicking in the year 2035, lol. At best, someday the battery will probably bloat and crack the touchpad. And I really love the Asus laptop, for what it is, but it's completely un-upgradeable: can't even take it past its stock 8GB of RAM. I hate all of the waste. It's so unnecessary.

[@danielnelson4881]

@@Bran_Flakesx7 As opposed to what? Autistic awakenings, like the one you did this morning? What's that even supposed to mean... We were just talking about crap companies... Then you have to go throw out the word "normies" in a condescending way... That's not what that word is for, it's to be used in a lighthearted almost self deprecating way as though you and your peers aren't normal, you're odd... Not in a condescending, you're so normal and I'm oh so special kind of a way... "Oh it's so cute when non special people finally realize stuff that I knew all along because I'm special..." - What you sounded like to me... *barf* I know you weren't talking to any of us probably but it still sounded gross..

[@cupcakemcsparklebutt9051]

Agreed

[@ChengTeoh]

Anyone seeing the "We're sorry, but something went wrong" after clicking on the "Configure Now" on the DYI Edition? I'd love to support this company.

[@AceArata]

Yup. I JUST clicked on their website link now and tried to configure a DIY laptop and got that same screen lmao

[@olielsdon5915]

change your region to your nation, not the us

[@gid9551]

Same. I think they got the LTT hug of death?

[@superslimanoniem4712]

Seems like their site is under heavy load. Good thing, people want to buy one.

[@Simondogtag]

Am also seeing it too

[@JR-yr8xm]

This is what happens when you have engineers do what they do best without interference from like a marketing team or bosses that want to cut corners and save money.

[@volvo09]

Guys, we need you all to stop working on improving details... Management wants you to jumble the pins on all these connectors.

[@AlcatrazCrylake]

@@GreySectoid Not just engineers but I know what you mean with that. People that know their business. Me as an tool mechanic I get often to feel how unwanted a professional awnser is. Most people who decide over the money and time of a firm that is a little bigger do not have a clue about the works that is done. Too much other stuff like marketing, management and connection build up come in the way of the product. Sure these are as well important but not on a level that the main product looses quality. But the thing is people like to stand high in the rank. So saving money and time is a loved way to "rank up". The smaller workers have to compensate this. With more understanding and knowledge on the upper levels of many companies you could get way more effective and have more quality. But its a complicated structure...

[@oldfrend]

honestly fuck empty suits. spaceX, tesla, starlink are what happens when the engineers run the company.

@@oldfrend that's not exactly good example (tesla is repair hostile) more like skylon (air breathing rockets with "precooler"), koenigsegg

[@hal9xxx321]

@@oldfrend Don't forget AMD, Dr. Lisa Su is literally world's top electrical engineer

[@cheeselord8153]

They’ve actually started releasing motherboard replacement kits which is super awesome

[@jsmith0330]

"Not a ton of dynamic range" I don't know what the fuck that is but that camera goes way and beyond almost every laptop camera I've ever seen.

[@goahdejen6176]

lmao just means doesnt cover as much of the rgb spectrum as a regular non-laptop webcam but easily the best quality ive ever seen

[@aniruddharao8735]

You can tell the difference pretty well. Linus' face is pretty pink and colors in the rest of the room too are a bit off from what you see from their main camera

[@MikkoRantalainen]

@@aniruddharao8735 Yeah, that integrated webcam is total crap compared to *$80K RED cinema cameras!* If you compare the image quality to any integrated webcam in any laptop, that camera looks pretty good indeed.

[@aniruddharao8735]

@@MikkoRantalainen That was not the point I was trying to make. I was only trying to explain what the effect of having dynamic range on your camera has on the quality of video

[@arctikf0x698]

Fucking hilarious comment. Thanks

[@user51gh]

Finally, a manufacturer that ACTUALLY seems to care about the environment, instead of just saying that they do.

[@jamesyoo4779]

That depends on their longevity. If they are still here in the next five years or more, they'll be able to make a considerable difference since that will be when people will start needing CPU/GPU upgrades and purchase a new MOBO, rather than throwing away the whole laptop. By that point, they (hopefully) will have increased their variety of modules and internal combinations available, as well, further decreasing whole units being discarded. But if they fizzle out in the next year, 2, or 3, they would've just created a modular design with no module to be found, and upgradeable motherboards with no one to design the future chipsets. I know they're making a lot of their designs public, but if they end up collapsing so soon, they wouldn't have attracted enough people to possibly crowd-source parts and upgrades. Plus, future designs might be such a far departure from present ones that they might be forced to launch designs incompatible with the one they're launching now. With all that said, though, I hope they will find success. I certainly intend on buying one as soon as the traffic dies down since people are literally hugging the site to death.

[@advanceringnewholder]

They're preparing just incase right of repair got passed

[@azyrael96]

*coughrazercough*

[@muhammadirfanataulawal7630]

@@advanceringnewholder Right of repair will boost their confidence to the moon

[@advanceringnewholder]

@@muhammadirfanataulawal7630 GOOD!!

[@semibreve]

Don't know a stronger endorsement than Linus buying the product halfway through the review

[@Defender004]

Yes i Hope he is gonna use it as a daily driver and then tell us about his experience

[@Deepwing]

@Exempt 1 this wasn't a paid review though...

[@enkiimuto1041]

If he really likes it it will be hilarious to see he now comparing it to every future laptop we see

[@e4_blitz785]

@Exempt 1 You have to say if you're being paid to endorse something on KZbin

[@Aryasvitkona]

@Exempt 1 Linus may slightly mislead people, possibly even intentionally. But he would never outright lie to you for no real reason, especially not for something trivial like a little bit happier sponsor. It's just.. not him

[@thrownsofaraway9978]

My big thing (only halfway through the video so I don't know if they touched on it but) the packaging is amazing. The amount of products I order or buy off the shelf that wastes so much space. M.2 drives are insanely small yet come in boxes 3 times as wide and 4 times the thickness/depth. Those baby boxes for the interchangeable ports/drives are just great to see.

[@reeepingk]

To be fair, lots of things are packaged like this to prevent theft in retail stores (and they're too lazy to change it for online sales). I remember when large flash drives used to come in nearly 8.5x11" plastic packaging so people wouldn't steal them.

[@KiemPlant]

I love how they literally went "fine I'll do it myself"

[@TigroGumi]

Weirdly, the battery switch off is the part I found the most “I need this”

[@notabene9630]

not weirdly, in terms of batterie life this feature should be on every laptop

[@InvisibleManCZ]

Absolutely, I was looking for such a laptop for two months now, and suddenly, I look no more.

[@jackmccourt6180]

It would be good if this was either a button on the laptop or something you could select inside windows rather than having to go into the bios for it though!

[@XxXnonameAsDXxX]

You can take out batteries from older workstation laptops. I use a hp 8770w, take the battery out and run from the wall. Pretty awesome.

[@jonmon5745]

Lenovo legion has this feature. Plugged in mode not charging to save battery cycle.

[@DavisMakesGames]

I recently disassembled an old Asus laptop and moved it out of the case, I had to tape over 3 freaking sensors for it to even POST in its new enclosure.

[@jeremydale4548]

Honestly those kinds of things should be fucking illegal. Because it wastes silicone and it also is completely unnecessary.

[@jwdory]

Framework is an awesome company. It's about time a company started doing this. Patiently waiting for the 15" model. Make it powerful, please.

[@shellshock7043]

It's here now 16 inch though

[@Halfcertified]

@@shellshock7043with team red 💪

[@jonni9545]

This is literally the FIRST time that I WANT to buy a product after watching a review. Amazing and honest review by Linus for an awesome and well designed product

[@philiplubduck6107]

This is the first time I’d invest in a product I’ve seen here.

[@briangastineau_8887]

@@philiplubduck6107 yeah no kidding. I'd love to see them able to replace the Mobo as well so you can stay up to date with that too! Maybe have have compatibility with external GPU for casual gamers! I think toughbook did that a while back with an actual gpu shield. Either way, I'd buy!

[@aladinalbeik7853]

MEEE TOOO

[@sarlol00]

@@briangastineau_8887 It says on their website that you can replace the mobo for upgrade.

[@vaxick]

@@briangastineau_8887 it supports eGPU's.

[@TheBloodshire]

Linus giving a good review on a new technology with little to no downsides: The website: God have mercy

[@hapymine9632]

There is no mercy!!!!!!

[@simplybloxxed]

Yep, error 500

[@jeremydale4548]

I can think of one downside. Other companies trying to take Framework down by any stupid means necessary.

[@TacticalFluke09]

Looks like we hugged their site to death. Damn though, this thing looks like EXACTLY what I've been wanting for like 10 years. As soon as it's available to me in the UK I'm grabbing one, and likely recommending it to anyone who'll listen

[@rishabhkaushik22]

Some redditor said the same thing yesterday: death by snu-snu

[@ElNeroDiablo]

As an Aussie; I'm really wanting one to service as a portable workstation (especially if they have a touchscreen+stylus option in the future) where I can do some light gaming in bed or in town and make some art whilst on the move, so I can retire my mid-2010 Macbook hopefully and don't have to be tied to my monster desktop rig just to art and game.

[@ddc171]

@@ElNeroDiablo a 2 in 1 laptop that can game is sure going to be super heavy BTW you should check out Spectre

[@TacticalFluke09]

@@ElNeroDiablo mid 2010 core 2 duo macbook white by any chance? That's still my every day laptop hahah

[@ElNeroDiablo]

@@ddc171 I'm not looking for CP2077 1440p120 Ultra, Odin forbid, but something that can handle 1080p60 Medium Minecraft, World of WarCrack/Diablo III (Blizzard has owned my soul since 1996) and maybe some Trouble in Terrorist Town (GMod) along with emulators and PS Remote Play would be nice when I'm not at my powerful desktop.

[@Skux720]

The modular I/O ports are such a great idea. Everyone uses their laptop differently and they will be able to customise it to fit their exact needs.

[@thargy]

I don’t want/need a laptop… really tempted to buy this just to support them!

[@gabrielfabula606]

same, but their website is so buggy that you can't even buy them!

[@shivanshgupta579]

Its not buggy its overloaded... Can't handle that much traffic

[@indian-tech-support]

@@gabrielfabula606 there's way to many people trying to access it

[@indian-tech-support]

True and then we can help the environment

[@brownbelpois]

@@shivanshgupta579 ah the ol' hug of death

[@geoffreybassett6741]

Holy crap, never wanted to buy a laptop on principle before.

[@PaulMansfield]

I bought a PineBookPro and half the reason was on principle

[@dirg3music]

100% same, the concept and the ethos behind it alone makes it worth the purchase.

[@notanexpert4927]

So expensive though:(

[@NightChime]

"I personally would love to see a touch option." Just imagine. They come out with the touch option. And you can just... swap it in to the laptop you already have. Because they're not assholes.

[@giampaolomannucci8281]

that's just beautiful

[@niko1even]

That would be a bit complicated, because they built it in mind without the touch capabilities, i assume. So in this case they would need to have a separate connector for the touch or have pinout for the touch already built in to the display cable connector. Unless they already have had touch capabilities in mind, that’s very likely not possiblle.

[@shehranazim4784]

@@niko1even as he mentions in the video, the motherboard already has touch support built in, so the connectors and pins are already there. It really would be as simple as just popping in a compatible touchscreen, it seems.

[@niko1even]

@@shehranazim4784 oh sweet. I wouldn’t say “popping in”, because the process is a bit longer than that, but yeah. That’s nice

[@shehranazim4784]

@@niko1even relative to a lot of other modern laptops, this is as close to popping in we'll be able to get!

[@hbarudi]

This company is great, there are other startups that offer linux such as tuxedo too. But we need those 2 in 1 laptops to become available from someone other than the big laptop companies.

[@TheTallOne890]

the only problem is that they are probably going to go bankrupt once they get fully built up because they aren't going to put out new product's once third parties start making modules

[@cameronbosch1213]

​@@TheTallOne890I don't think they will go bankrupt. People seem genuinely interested in their laptops, and even if Framework does go bankrupt, the community will still be able to pick up where they left off.

[@notmyrealname1335]

I love how Linus handles the hardware he’s reviewing. It’s like 60% tech review and 40% durability testing.

[@NoMore12345-z]

And only 1 drop but wholesome. :-)

[@BigGomer]

its good though if he breaks it what will someone whos not techey do to it

[@bizybliztaverage9414]

I mean, if my expensive laptop that dies from a 90 cm fall

[@dernervigetypausdernachbar2307]

this made me laugh so much, you just made my day!

[@thetechdude2266]

Had us in the first half ngl😂

[@NateDawg0007]

It's been 3 hours and their website is still bogged down by too many visitors. We are giving them the hug of death!

[@mercedesCH]

@@Chris-rg6nm Then they will spend the money on the things that matter. What do you like more? a posh website or a good product?

[@francescobasile8933]

@@Chris-rg6nm the traffic probably just went up by 1000%+ with all the videos now coming out...

[@LyricsFred]

looks like they need a better FRAMEWORK for their web server.

[@bruhzooka]

Took about 1000 tries, but I got my confirmation email.

[@muhwyndham]

@@Chris-rg6nm Even the most scalable server will not be able to handle traffic up in the thousands of percent in half a day, let alone an hour. This is not frame.work faults lol

[@Dominator9572]

It's sad when treating your customers with respect, giving them what they want, and not lying to them is shocking and not the norm.

[@pannedandcanned]

@SOUL SEEKER yeah I remember when OnePlus was still a value brand

[@Mr_Trump]

@@pannedandcanned It still is, depending on who you ask. Imo OnePlus now is better than it was 4 years ago (saying this as a OnePlus 6 owner).

[@sayeedalsifat1308]

@@Mr_Trump 2 of my cousins owned OnePlus 7 Pro and OnePlus 7 (7 Pro owner sold his, 7 owner uses it to this day) and to be honest, I'm kinda disappointed on what OnePlus is now. From being an out-of-norm company that we consumers can look up to, it isn't like that. It's present state feels more like Oppo

[@PSYCHOV3N0M]

@@pannedandcanned Value is relative. It's NOT tied to the cheapest price or the most bang for the buck. OnePlus knew what they were doing. They're very smart from a business perspective. Start off cheap with flagship specs, build a following, and then slowly increase the price year after year.

[@PSYCHOV3N0M]

@@sayeedalsifat1308 OnePlus knew what they were doing. They're very smart from a business perspective. Start off cheap with flagship specs, build a following, and then slowly increase the price year after year.

[@Tktye]

Got a framework myself too. It broke shortly after getting it, but it was easy to fix and I love it. Thanks for covering this laptop and company.

[@yomamasohot6411]

For the first half of your comment I thought you were going to shit on the company ngl😅

[@VeeOasis]

@@yomamasohot6411 same

[@urimc]

@@yomamasohot6411 got us in the first half ngl

[@northernKaizer]

and this is why companies talk to Lmg, because hes fairly honest (if sometimes brutal) and unless its a real big company lmgs word can really help or hurt

[@dragoonsunite]

True, but I'm wary of startups, recommended or not. I got the NudeCNC direct die waterblock based on a LMG recommendation, and no doubt it's a great product, but I purchased the thing 3 years ago for an 8700k, and they still haven't delivered it (Though supposedly it ships this month, literally 4 generations of CPU after the 8700k). I'll absolutely buy a product from a new company when its in stock and I can get it ordered and delivered the same day I pay, but I'm done supporting any company, no matter how good their product is, before they actually have a finished shippable product ready to send to me. Not these guys fault mind you, but there's just a lot of dumb-asses with great product ideas, and absolutely no business sense who are "functionally" scamming people whether they intend to or not, and it forces you to be wary of all startups, even if they are different (Because you just never know). The issue is seldom the product idea itself, it's nearly always the delivery of the product...

[@Porsche7905]

@@dragoonsunite I just checked out their website and it now says they are shipping! Maybe Linus recorded this a few weeks or months ago

[@SoftnappGAMEPLAY]

Fair and lienus are north and south pole

[@daftpunk672]

@@SoftnappGAMEPLAY why?

[@DaveCrosshaw]

Remember kids: anything is possible, the manufacturers just don't give a damn about what you want

[@averagejoe9040]

Well, they do, just so long that what you want is the same as what everyone else wants.

[@lacman6159]

@@averagejoe9040 👆

[@RandmAnimal]

"fuck it, i'll do it myself" future millionare probably

[@beanstalker3292]

yup and this is an actual alternate product built in the same dimension....

[@memes_gbc674]

@@RandmAnimal i freaking hope so

[@LouisDuran]

My son somehow just destroyed his HP Pavilion after just 16 months of service. At the very least it needs a new trackpad, a new display and new top cover. I can't find any way to buy these parts from HP. HP does provide a bunch of KZbin videos on disassembling and reassembling the PC but parts? No idea. The PC works fine except the trackpad and display. It was very easy to find these parts on Framework's website and it would cost about $280 for the parts. And it's awesome that you can take the internals and make a desktop PC out of it. I'm sold

[@yoursleepparalysisdemon1828]

"just 16 months"

[@_wayward_494]

@@yoursleepparalysisdemon1828 a year and a half is not long at all. Every laptop I've used has gone strong for more than 4 years

[@yoursleepparalysisdemon1828]

@@_wayward_494 its not a normal amount of time, but thats not short.

[@_wayward_494]

@@yoursleepparalysisdemon1828 in terms of what? A bag of chips? That's a long time. But for a laptop, then no

[@RealElevenTimes]

@@yoursleepparalysisdemon1828 That is short lmao. I've been using mine for 3 years and I'll continue for at least 3 more.

[@vishalpranav9490]

having watched Linus' videos for 4 years, i can guarantee that this is in the top 10 most positive reviews he has ever given for a product.

[@Google_Corporation]

Dude easily top 5. May even be #1, like he said, he went to go buy one *on-set*, which he's never done before.

[@theairaccumulator7144]

@@Google_Corporation top advertising

[@harpskid]

I've watched linus since he was reviewing the phenom cpus for NCIX...this is literally his most positive review, I agree.

[@AbdAlhaleemBakkor]

Totally agree, totally deserves it 😍❤️

[@alejandroseetal2275]

Yep

[@kernelpickle]

…and we’ve officially crushed the life out of their website, with a generous “Love Hug” as some would call it. I don’t think anyone is ever prepared for the influx of traffic from being featured in an LTT video for the first time.

[@Sub2Mato]

haha i'm starting college in a few months i went on their website to buy one and apparently so was everyone else

[@testhekid]

that's insane

[@fyzzlefry]

Yep site is being hugged to death. Eh, I'll try again tomorrow.

[@imgladnotu9527]

@@fyzzlefry inb4 doh' tomorrow

[@pifre3051]

This is definitely gonna blow up, it has everything we need and wanted our whole lives, Linus reviewed it, they have a simple URL for a website...And the website is under-maintenance already because of Linus.

[@ErevanDB]

@ClassicMan Just gonna call this comment as an r/agedlikemilk

[@pifre3051]

@Clasic Man Except this is a laptop, and you could use Linux with Proton...Meanwhile you have the FULL customizable laptop.

[@AR-py5uk]

@Clasic Man I hope not. I don't know how did that project die with google, so I'm only making assumptions. But a reason could be that the company realized that there was more money to make in selling full phones, so they discontinued it.

[@kiyotakaayanokoji3065]

"wanted our whole lives" speak for yourself. It doesn't have RGB keyboard that i wanted.

[@tippyc2]

@Clasic Man IIRC, that project killed itself by launching with low-end hardware. The enthusiasts they were marketing to usually want high-end.

[@TeamSylverThe2nd]

I am completely sold on Framework's laptops. Also for the high end specs I'm looking for its way cheaper than I ever thought. Going for roughly the same specs of other laptops Ive been looking for, its way cheaper, and upgradable too! As a tech enthusiast, I do think upgradable laptops are a must have, and if I'm honest, Ive been looking for a while.

[@reeepingk]

Yeah I did the same thing as you, I compared prices and when compared to things like dell or lenovo.... the price is near identical. Of course it's not as cheap as the "cheap brands" that use worse parts, but what do you expect? I ordered one immediately.

[@james589]

First laptop I've actually ever been excited for, or cared about.

[@PMTZ.]

Also first in a long time seeing Linus being genuinely excited about a product

[@BILL-2002hst]

Absolutely dude

[@amuzulo]

Heck, the last time I felt this way was for the M1 MacBooks. I have an M1 Air. I'm not going to get this Framework laptop, but I'm just so happy it exists. :)

[@buckbreaker5185]

@@amuzulo lol apple drone

[@amuzulo]

@@buckbreaker5185 I'm an iOS developer, so I kinda need a Mac to do my job. Thanks though! :)

[@nen848]

I love when he said "I wanna invest". I don't think you could get better praise

[@primorock8141]

Facts

[@Goosetube12345]

Unless he already did !?!?! ...

[@nen848]

@@Goosetube12345 The Linus we know through the videos probably would but idk if actual Linus would

[@alemutasa6189]

If I had the money I'd buy this IMMEDIATELY. This should be the standard for laptops, period.

[@PlaceholderforBjorn]

Same here

[@vasudevraghav2109]

Yes, same here.

[@lucasmaizeray9581]

I received my framework laptop some weeks ago. (I'm french) I was expecting a good device, but I am pleasantly surprised, it is more powerfull that expected. I have got a desktop pc with a good CPU and GPU for 3 or 4 years. In the CPU intensive tasks, like video editing and such, the framework is better and quicker at exporting those videos. Obviously the framework gets hotter (85°c approx.) and my desktop pc doesn’t overcome 60°c with a noctua air cooler. The lack of GPU makes it less performing in games and real time 3d work, but not as much as I thought. Even in big games, if I drop down the resolution and set the graphic parameters as « low » it work quite well. The screen, keyboard and trackpad are really great, the sound is OK not super powerfull but good. I have a macbook pro for my work and I have ever found the keyboard to be annoying to use. The trackpad is also quite « sticky », fingers don’t slide easily on the surface, the framework is way more enjoyable to use for me. The small form factor is so cool, even more with this tiny power supply. I think that it is a great device, with evolution and personalisation in mind at is core, and I hope that framework will continue on the long run, I am really happy to have get one !

[@medlearning6224]

Guys we need to make this the most successful laptop ever

[@wordpressrar3252]

U got my votes bro. And when i get a job,i will definitely buy this.

[@IrelandVonVicious]

@@wordpressrar3252 Not sure it will still be relevant in 2035.

[@tommyinthe8ir]

if only it would be Ryzen

@@tommyinthe8ir They're a startup. It makes sense to concentrate on one configuration to start, and they likely had to choose something where they could be certain they would be able to get parts. Tiger Lake will be fine for most mainstream users.

[@OnionNinja]

@ The biggest problem I see with this though is that their main customers won't be mainstream consumees. Their main customers would be people looking for easily repairable and upgradable laptops, i.e. gamers or the more tech savvy. And failing to have higher end processors makes that much more difficult.

[@maciejskwarski397]

Finally laptop that is not anti-repair, anti-consumer and environmentally unfriendly. Just like Linus; I'm sold.

[@faded5754]

ok buy me one pls

[@EminemLovesGrapes]

This would be a very cool productive laptop. Most people will still buy an Air though. Aaaand the website is down. Thanks Linus

[@ragsrama]

Ima buy this. When they start selling in india

[@Defender004]

@@ragsrama Yeah this think is awesome I Hope the Concept is gonna blow up so everybody does it

[@maciejskwarski397]

@Sergio Marc I mean... Thunderbolt egpu or cloud gaming services combined with some low expectations could theoretically turn it into a gaming machine. Key word being theoretically.

[@lilrockstar77]

I don’t need a laptop but I might buy one because of what they represent.

[@indian-tech-support]

For the prices they absolutely beet hp and dell

[@fieldrat9046]

Making e-waste just to support a company is exactly the opposite of what they represent.

[@davecolwell725]

This actually seems like the first laptop I feel like I might actually want to buy.

[@confused_owo]

@@fieldrat9046 is it going to be e-waste or are they just saying it with no plans to buy it or they might buy it and use it a lot no one who isn't rich spends a grand on a laptop not to use it

[@lilrockstar77]

@@fieldrat9046 what makes you believe that I would let it got to waste. I never said I would buy it and let it sit around. Why not make the assumption that I was just going to replace mine with this one… I get the feeling you just want to sound cool. But if you are going to make assumptions don’t be a goof ball and assume the worst.

[@omarsaeed1308]

What’s so great is that even if people don’t know or don’t want to open up the laptop they can take it to a repair shop that will have no problem fixing/upgrading this laptop

[@yusefaslam9675]

The entire concept is that you learn how to open it up yourself and add or remove stuff, they provide documentation too, very cool stuff.

[@owenhorn7548]

Exactly. The ports options will be what sells this to the general public.

[@MrWarriorAsh]

If we properly fund this company by buying their products, they will turn the whole laptop industry around. More companies will see that this is profitable and will come out with their own upgradable laptops. Let's change the world Gamers! Edit: We ran them out of stock and crashed their website. NICE

[@Milan-iy3pd]

nooo i wanted to order right now

[@pauloazuela8488]

Too bad I want to scroll around in their website 😂

[@rfitzgerald2004]

It would be amazing if they would all cooperate and make modules that work with each others machines, but no doubt they'd all look to make it proprietary in some way

[@brianj6314]

what is the website called?

[@brianj6314]

what is the website called?

[@thegardenofeatin5965]

The major thing is this company has to stick around, parts availability have to be long-term. I'm seriously considering buying one; I don't need one right off the bat but I want to support this company.

[@damstachizz]

The fact that they include spare screws is what sold me, if they can get an AMD version out i'll definitely be buying one

[@TurbaVladimir]

Actually, best thing is to create open standards for module compatibility, so that no single company is responsible for device existence

[@rikwisselink-bijker]

​@@TurbaVladimir That was my thought as well, but that failed miserably with that blox phone thing. Laptops stand a better chance, but still. I suspect RAM and USB are the only open standards we're every going to get in laptops. I hope I'm wrong.

[@22Epic]

@@TurbaVladimir But if you create open standards then the business model falls appart.

[@unknownface2463]

that is the way we can support them

[@fahadus]

This makes everything else in the market look stupid.

[@AdagioInfernal]

Agree.

[@cybercery5271]

Dis, I agree.

[@jazmineash8450]

@@cybercery5271 dis, i agree

[@davidyusaku]

@@jazmineash8450 outstanding move

[@geminitheavali5018]

Agreed as well

[@magicman3669]

I found this video around 6 months ago. Today, I got the shipping confirmation E-Mail after having bought it the second it came out in my country. I am INCREDIBLY hyped for it's arrival!

[@tipoomaster]

Linus "The Dell's not even fucking thinner!" Sebastian I hope this company makes it and gets to make many more generations, very good first effort

[@charlesrichard7715]

This is literally the perfect laptop, and it's only the first iteration. This kind of modularity should be standard. Now do phones.

[@penedrador]

Fairphone does smth like that But I don't see it for the mass market, people just don't care enough. Many literally buy EVERY new Iphone or Galaxy, so repair or upgrade is a non issue for them

[@oplkfdhgk]

Easily and cheaply replaceable headphone jack and battery is what i want in phones.

[@atlasgfs]

@@oplkfdhgk battery and screen is all ya need Edit: they say on their website they plan on having a replaceable headphone module with a high end amp/dac, AUDIOHPHILES ARE NOW PORTABLE XD

[@oplkfdhgk]

I know it can be done. My friend had phone like that 10 years ago. It was like 1.5mm thicker than my current phone but i think that's thin enough.

[@oplkfdhgk]

@@atlasgfs nah i need headphone jack too. I just use it alot so it breaks every 2-3 year.

[@FoxBlocksHere]

I really, truly hope these guys are able to sell a lot of these, because it would sure suck if their company went under.

[@lucasf6429]

Checked their site, all models of the laptop were sold out already, seems like so far they are doing good

[@Lutavian]

Their site has been going in and out for a day now, they're getting flooded with orders lol. I think they'll be good for a while

[@fairybeliever5599]

I’ll buy me one of theirs, when it’s time for a new laptop. Really support their user friendly approach.

[@brickonator]

Bigger fear might be someone buying them up.

[@wyrd21]

@@brickonator seeing people say this. Companies cant just be bought if they don't want to be sold, I hope people realize that.

[@ClimateAdam]

Sooo hyped to see new (well actually old!) models of making our tech done so well. Thanks for bringing light to it, and here's hoping we start seeing our stuff as more upgradable and less disposable!

[@jimmyhoke]

Linus: “I wanna invest!” Linus Today: “ok so I invested…”

[@MrPacman64]

lmao here because of the invest video too

[@jussiollila7714]

So this is a prequel to some invest por..project

[@Robaken]

@@MrPacman64 High'5, me too ;)

[@azyrael96]

Stood up to his word, thats awesome

[@ohhhsnapdamn1280]

lmao

[@protoretro1290]

Linus being sold, has me sold. The moment it is available in Australia, I will be buying it. If I had the capital, I'd invest as well. If Framework fails, then the other manufacturers will say "I told you so", we cannot let that happen. If Framework succeeds it puts the "but it isn't economically viable" argument to bed.

[@shadowyzephyr]

the "i7" processors in these laptops have just 4 cores, even if they are 4 good cores it's still half the number that another laptop might have.

[@anarchybreed]

@@shadowyzephyr 4 cores is enough for most people. It's certainly enough for a device where power draw is a consideration. I'm sure the limited CPU options would improve over time if the demand was there and it certainly looks like it would just be a case of swapping it out. Moment you can buy these with a UK keyboard I'm definitely getting one and will certainly look at pushing these as replacement for our mobile devices at work just because of how easy it will be to replace spare parts when the PMs/sales inevitably break them.

[@nuclearbomb9483]

@@shadowyzephyr intel i7? Sounds good to me

[@B4N5TER]

I'm in Australia and got one - I got it via a freight forwarding service.

[@shadowyzephyr]

It's not that this isn't a good idea or anything -- it's just that linus makes it seem like these laptops have the same performance for price as competing models, which they absolutely do not. You can get a laptop for $800 with similar or better specs than Framework's $1400 option, plus the fact that with the DIY version you actually have to build it yourself.

[@ahobimo732]

I love the fact that when you take the back off, the inside of the laptop "welcomes" you with oodles of text and useful information. It's like they were just waiting for you to take it apart. 😍😍😍

[@sorrychangedmyusername3594]

you're gonna nut on the laptop if you pronounce it like that bruh

[@ahobimo732]

@@sorrychangedmyusername3594 If that happens, it'll be easy to fix, due to the way the laptop is designed.

[@sykoteddy]

When Louis Rossman got one he had to open it up to put in the ram sticks I believe. It looked like Linus got them in packages as well for installing manually but I didn't actually see him installing them.

[@Jehty_]

@@sykoteddy 10:00

[@sykoteddy]

@@Jehty_ Thanks, it's weird I didn't notice him installing them, I just remember he holding the ram packages. 🤪

[@Fordi]

I've got one of these. It's a fantastic laptop, works OOTB with Linux, and the fact that I can get upgrades for an already awesome lappie going forward is amazing. Incidentally, it _does_ have intrusion detection, but as the first user, I have full control of it. Also, my first support purchase after buying it was a second power brick - it also charges my phone super-fast, and getting a good high-wattage USB-C charger is hard.

[@owenhorn7548]

How does the intrusion detection work? Just a switch?

[@JoelCreates]

having recently repaired a 17" alienware laptop, this looks great

[@Antonio-bf2pc]

I just repaired an MSI gaming laptop and it’s case is the thinnest Piece of garbage I’ve ever seen. Literally had to super glue it back together! Can’t wait for this!

[@m4dm3th0d]

RIP my guy

[@craniusfawkes]

I hope those kind of enterprises come strong to the market and overcome others like dell, lenovo, apple... It is so fking bad not having the right to use ur stuff the way u want or repair it easily. It seems we r taking the computers borrowed instead of buying. We can use but we have no right to see inside it and manage it deeply. I hope that framework comes to Brazil soon in a good price.

[@brandonhernandez1126]

Bruh I hated taking mine apart, that was a nightmare

[@vals9838]

Hell, I remember when I had to replace screen backplate on my MSI GT72 because stupid plastic that was molded around one of the screw holes that mounted screen to laptop chassis just cracked.

[@mdv9831]

This might be the most excited I've ever been about a laptop, that is so fucking cool

[@andri3012]

Funny that a company that managed to think of almost everything failed at website load.

[@kevinlu5481]

@@andri3012 same hahaha

[@Jackred94]

Same, except the F word

[@Jackred94]

@@andri3012 I don't think they have the laptops, only preorder. I assume that some of the pages don't work because they are not set up since they are not ready to sell yet.

[@afallingtree9114]

this plus what Valve is currently doing means we might be in the beginning of a new age of hardware

[@cesarpalmos8235]

This laptop ACTUALLY feels futuristic isteady of "older modular technology"

[@കുട്ടൂസൻ-ദ1ണ]

True

[@adisonteo2836]

U mean instead?

[@jonmon5745]

if fully upgreable was real then why is it the modular parts are only usb and hdmi (IO)? Alot of you are so confused about this fail laptop: Pros: 1. easily removable module usb a, hdmi, usb c, sd card 2. Easily removable battery and screen (But all windows laptop can be remove) 3. Replaceable front screen frame. Cons: 1. Expensive 1000$!for base model 2. Expensive Up to 2000$ for 512 ssd and higher cpu. 3. Did not even mention any rtx card at all 3 models. 4. Current gen ddr4 slot and current gen pcie 4 slot are not modular as well as cpu and gpu in short if you upgrade the motherboard it will cost alot since it is pretty much the laptop itself. 5. They dont make their own chip, so all future motherboard with new cpu,gpu, next gen ddr5 slot, next gen pcie 5.0 will probably cost almost at the same price of a traditional laptop. 6. If for example you bought a new motherboard, you are stuck with worn lcd, worn keyboard, old gen ssd card, old gen ram, worn charger and worn or full of scratch laptop frames. For the price almost the same as the new laptop with everything new. 7. Not to mention the terrible cooling system design of laptop is terrible. Look at all the upcoming gaming laptop, they are way better than this. 8. In conclusion this laptop is not future proof, having a module IO will not compensate for the lack of fully upgradeable next gen hardware such as gen 5 pcie and gen 5 ram.

[@somelokyguy6466]

@@jonmon5745 Thanks for your comment, $0.016 has been deposited into your account. Regards, -the Apple-Dell coalition

[@lukefreeman828]

@@jonmon5745 your comparison to a gaming laptop for cooling is stupid. This is a thin and light. Compare it to thin and lights. Everything else you’ve pointed out is literally true of ALL laptops so they’re utterly redundant points to make. The exception being apple making their own chips… which doesn’t matter because they can’t be replaced either.

[@bobbydirtamiyer2151]

My Acer from 2014 is super easy to upgrade both the hard drive and RAM. It's a real bummer I can't upgrade the cpu. I'd be the happiest man alive if I could put a faster cpu in it.

[@ddylan4cats]

If you started with 64GB of RAM, then you can't upgrade it more when the OS starts to become slow. If you started with 32GB, then there would be a noticeable difference in performance after making the upgrade. That's because you not used to the architecture.

[@kingdanett4043]

Personally one of the things I wish phone manufacturers did was go back to removable batteries. I remember when my dad had an HTC and was using it heavily he'd just have 2 batteries so he could just quickly replace the battery and continue on. Especially when my main problem with having to get new phones is the battery, it's really nice

[@namelic9619]

They want you to keep buying a new phone every year... with some bs feature, like the 100x zoom on samsung that you might use once..

[@itspossible2015]

replaceable batteries mean no waterproofing. no necessity for replaceable batteries when alternative solutions already exist (power banks, battery cases etc.)

[@3lH4ck3rC0mf0r7]

@@itspossible2015 Most phones aren't submerge-waterproof anyway (you know if you ever actually dropped one on any body of water). And I'm pretty sure a splash-waterproof removable battery design should be decently plausible despite the shit manufacturers say.

[@akshayjk9907]

@@itspossible2015 but GoPro action camera have removable battery and it is still waterproof

[@jacksonredstone9530]

@@itspossible2015 you have not done your research. many devices with even hotswappable batteries are water resistant. the galaxy s5 was rated IP67 and had a removable back. some DJI cameras are also water resistant and have a fast hot-swap battery mechanism. a normal watch has a replaceable battery and can go far deeper.

[@scotticus8823]

When engineers get the final say in product development...

[@matekovacs2696]

And it is clear that they love their work. If your employees love to work at your company (not because you tell them to, but because they love what the company is doing and the environment is awesome), they make amazing products with love and care.

[@tbfromsd]

That would be a dream if the concept spread, as a Dev I have to wait until every arbitrary condition of the marketing, and design teams get satisfied to build a product. Then have to fight to put in features that matter, and fight to keep out features that ruin the experience. I show analytical data displaying why something is a bad idea, then have to fight about someones feelings. Then you step back and say jeez I am the only one here who can build this; how are my ideas the bottom of the barrel. I am about to apply for a job with Framework.

[@germanmartinez6550]

@@tbfromsd I feel your pain

[@TdrSld]

@@tbfromsd As a Automotive Engineer that is the one that actually builds the damn things I feel you on a spiritually level. I have been in near fist fights with paper engineers, bean counters, and marketing teams over a poorly thought out design that would cost more money over the live of the project than they'll make in the short term. But in the modern day it's not about long term investments but short term profits on a spread sheet. I left that side of the automotive world 15 years ago and haven't looked bakc.

[@ls200076]

@@tbfromsd I feel you man.

[@londonkoster3888]

"I'm doin it." And i guess like thousands of LTT fans are doing it too. Good job framework, this is great 👍

[@zeodormusic]

this is the coolest laptop i ever seen and for 300$ what the f**k

[@gameplay-kt9hw]

Op in nepal

[@rosaria8384]

This laptop is a must buy for me - everything flexed here is just worth spending my cash for. Hopefully this company succeeds and expands its components to allow for touch screen displays, and mobile GPUs like the 3050 Ti

[@felixu95]

This review genuinely looks like the most fun the LTT crew has had doing a review in a long, long while.

[@thebrpob]

Tried to visit the website to check it out. Looks like LTT's KZbin community is giving it the Hug of Death lol

[@mattcheng1016]

Yes the site is super laggy lol we broke it

[@BillyBonesYT]

yea its rlly slow/down

[@Mogi-MC]

Alex going "Cry me a river" sounded so genuine, ofcourse, understandable

[@Sabrina0s]

Him and linus have known each other so long dunking on each other becomes natural.

[@dumbmonkey1313]

@@Sabrina0s a

[@DEV8795]

just saw in Tom's video. good taste

[@PriscentSnow]

Time stamp?

[@sienile]

@@PriscentSnow - 7:48 includes the relevant context before.

[@_somerandomguyontheinternet__]

Wow, this is the coolest product i've seen in years! The fact that you can literally customize ANYTHING on it while keeping the setup slim and compact is just amazing. 10/10 points for this one!

[@brosch91]

This is the part of "going green" that big corporations don't want: The ability to fix what you have instead of tossing it in the recycle bin and buying a new one. This makes me wonder if the phonebloks project back in 2013 was actually possible. It's too bad that the idea was killed in it's infancy.

[@sirsluginston]

Damn I forgot that was even a thing, would be a totally different world if all tech was built like that

[@black53342]

If they had launched that tech then it would have been way more developed and encapsulated till now.

[@SuperMIKevin]

if framework succeeds there is no doubt in my mind they will eventually build a phone, i would be surprised to learn they aren't already working on the design.

[@TheAkashicTraveller]

@@SuperMIKevin I wonder if they'll be the ones to do the obvious have a tablet screen that you can plug your phone into idea.

[@ekinteko]

@@TheAkashicTraveller . You mean like the Project Linda laptop, JungleCat handheld, Desktop Dock, and the Razer Phone 2 acting as the heart of it all ?

[@koreboredom4302]

Imagine how advanced our society would be if this was popular in the late 2000s.

[@ProNarch01]

Imagine companies help each other to innovate the technologies rather than competing each other🥱

[@fundemort]

listen to Imagine by John Lennon

[@jackjulius4814]

if im not wrong, apple and other product used to be easy to repair but they dont want people to use third-party repair so they make it difficult to repair

[@Saurosapius]

@@jackjulius4814 true, thats where the "right to repair bill" comes in to flip this trend around.

[@Saurosapius]

@@ProNarch01 Currently competition fuels innovation to stay on top in the market. So technically it is like you say but it is driven by greed and capitalism. It is their drive and if you wanna see your idea realized, they will have to gain from doing so. I don't see this changing anytime soon because it isn't a realistic profit model.

[@ogland6482]

I like what Linus said. "The philosophical difference between engineering things to make them harder for the end user because you don't trust them, and documenting things to educate the user so you know you can trust them.

[@justinedwards2496]

Got my framework last week and have been very happy with it

[@nhatphatly3587]

Framework literally said "f*ck your proprietary bullsh*t" .This is the future now

[@theCuchuoi1]

đúng bạn

[@theunprofessionallurker]

This is how it always should have been.

[@jonmon5745]

Future what? Removable IO? Alot of you dont know shits.

[@MVAS-mp9oo]

@@jonmon5745 you'll know if you learn.

[@jonmon5745]

@@MVAS-mp9oo if fully upgreable was real then why is it the modular parts are only usb and hdmi (IO)? Alot of you are so confused about this fail laptop: Pros: 1. easily removable module usb a, hdmi, usb c, sd card 2. Easily removable battery and screen (But all windows laptop can be remove) 3. Replaceable front screen frame. Cons: 1. Expensive 1000$!for base model 2. Expensive Up to 2000$ for 512 ssd and higher cpu. 3. Did not even mention any rtx card at all 3 models. 4. Current gen ddr4 slot and current gen pcie 4 slot are not modular as well as cpu and gpu in short if you upgrade the motherboard it will cost alot since it is pretty much the laptop itself. 5. They dont make their own chip, so all future motherboard with new cpu,gpu, next gen ddr5 slot, next gen pcie 5.0 will probably cost almost at the same price of a traditional laptop. 6. If for example you bought a new motherboard, you are stuck with worn lcd, worn keyboard, old gen ssd card, old gen ram, worn charger and worn or full of scratch laptop frames. For the price almost the same as the new laptop with everything new. 7. Not to mention the terrible cooling system design of laptop is terrible. Look at all the upcoming gaming laptop, they are way better than this. 8. In conclusion this laptop is not future proof, having a module IO will not compensate for the lack of fully upgradeable next gen hardware such as gen 5 pcie and gen 5 ram.

[@IamNerfDart]

"Where's the type-A port Dell?" And "The Dell's not even f***ing thinner!" Linus You had me laughing. Straight up facts.

[@CyReVolt]

11:28 "we've seen larger companies than frame.work promise this kind of upgradability and fail to deliver - *cough* DELL -" ☝ was even better :D

[@brentgeisler652]

yeah I was going to get an XPS but I heard the Ram was not up gradable I mean a 2900$ laptop sohuld come with 64GB of ram nto 16GB

[@MrFree-vj8qj]

@@brentgeisler652 64gb ram + thin and premium are 4000$ laptops. Xps is build for portability it cant be upgradable like a T serie or latitude. If you pay 4000$ you'll get 64gb.

[@brentgeisler652]

@@MrFree-vj8qj excuses excuses

[@brandonchenkovich3439]

Dear AMD, Please partner with these guys and make GPU's for these.

[@Matt-vh7gf]

I would get an APU ddr5 version

[@JAT985]

Only if its an RDNA2 APU

[@dolan-duk]

Imagine a Zen 3/RDNA2 APU in this...daaaaaamn!

[@pomtetty904]

This

[@hangman007usa]

@@Matt-vh7gf basically u want the steam deck APU on steroids :))

[@CoolerXavier]

Bought mine today for school thanks to Linus' review! This company and how they're trying to do this warms my heart and I wanna see them succeed!

[@joshualee6119]

when a pool of talent meets pure, uncompromised engineering.

[@LiveType]

That's the dream isn't it? Engineering first companies all start out this way, but don't last long as inevitably marketing and sales gets involved as more often than not these companies aren't sustainable and it's all downhill from there. They justify it with the massive increases in sales and inevitably learn "the masses" actually don't give a shit. All they care about is value/price. It's entirely possible to make a company like this sustainable, but to my knowledge it's never been successfully done in the electronics industry. Look up the video, "Why Enthusiast Brands will Betray You".

[@dr.samsung_8855]

Just to put this out there: If this company grows enough, then God knows what kinds of upgrades and options can become possible in the future. I'm hoping for a touchscreen and will be buying this laptop with the hopes that some day that will come true. I love how I can hold out on parts until I get more money to really upgrade this machine.

[@arhainofulthuan]

Needs a swappable dedicated videocard and then this baby will really take off

[@abrahammc2125]

@@arhainofulthuan not really, needs better ports i/o. a magnetic charger port, a sim card for 4g capability, etc. actual hardware cpu gpu wise doesnt limit a computer, the ram storage, and most importantly ports do

[@SepticFuddy]

@@abrahammc2125 It sure limits a computer when your work involves GPU-heavy tasks, so yeah, as much as I'd love one of these things right now, it isn't worth getting until there's a discrete GPU option

[@DuneRunnerEnterprises]

Well,it CAN be easily fitted with a touch!!! But,it will have to came with a different keyboard/top assembly,for fitting the flat cable for it. Second thought - not soo,but, maybe,i'm mistaken,by the ability of the upgradability of the motherboard......

[@6ch6ris6]

touchscreen, amd processor and a 360° spin is what im waiting for

[@TrueBlueKangaroo]

The framework site is down, so it's safe to say this is what everyone wanted.

[@Raja995mh33]

they just didn't had good servers to cover all. Even Apples own website is down sometimes right after a new product got unveiled.

[@michakrzyzanowski8554]

ddos

[@arnox4554]

What I wanted... ? I'LL TAKE THEIR ENTIRE FUCKING STOCK

[@unforgivn82]

2 years later and they still leading the market. Big companies starting to attempt the same but not on their level. I got one and absolutely LOVE it. No issues, customer service, was very helpful when needed and still feels like a small family business when dealing with them. I swapped from an Asus ROG laptop to this. Speaks for itself.

[@TheChodex]

Linus during the review: "I'm sold, gonna order one right now" Stock: *SOLD OUT* Website: *CRASHED*

[@stalizia2022]

same XD

[@nsfshdfgj]

im happy

[@VenomKen]

Already happening. I haven't been able to make it through a build your own order.

[@Simon-qh1ys]

Human DDOS FTW

[@nsfshdfgj]

@@VenomKen im broke and still waiting for then to release these in black and with cool gpu’s, but the concept is fucking wonderful

[@sfdjk]

This happens when engineers and not economics people lead the company

[@petitpanierdosier3206]

Totally

[@kevinlu5481]

Fax

[@7_Max_7]

damn penny-pinchers are truely the worst...

[@kevinlu5481]

There's some analysis on KZbin of MBA vs MEng CEO's, how focusing on the product instead of the sales delivers a better product

[@ludara8697]

Reason why Boeing is dying

[@elonwong]

i hope this would be a real first step to all repairable devices fingers crossed

[@vcixi]

🤞

[@officialnw6008]

🤞🏾

[@OwenKipling]

🤞

[@purnasaimadala]

🤞🏻

[@kindasus]

🤞🏼

[@prongATO]

OMG, THANK YOU! My wife does medical transcription and I have been lost in what to get her to replace her old laptops! This is absolutely perfect!

[@rocketboy001]

This vid went live, and almost immediately the Frame Work ordering server is overwhelmed. This shows what people want in a laptop! I'm waiting for the site to get back online and then i'll order mine.

[@cosbronaut4405]

This company should transfer to the Amazon web service because it scales with the amount of people visiting the site. Although I hate Jeff Amazon the product solves a huge issue for startup small companies

[@tuanoful]

Same here, actually. I am just amazed at it.

[@onlinezwang]

Well, their websites down now with all of us trying to buy one. Good for them. Really gives me hope seeing that there is demand for something like that.

[@Evan.]

“The dells not even fucking thinner”-Linus

[@WinderTP]

That seals the deal of Framework getting a "Better Than Dell" award!

[@dildojizzbaggins6969]

*“The dell's not even fucking thinner” -Linus

[@corlaez]

No discrete gpu. However i still love framework’s proposal

[@oplkfdhgk]

@@corlaez eh. I am fine with integrated gpu. I would argue that those are better for laptops anyway. Even for gaming! Why? Because you might want to play longer than 15 minutes.

[@harrikangur]

When new board becomes available with discrete GPU.. you don't need to buy a whole new laptop, just switch out the board and keep rocking

[@kirsten1992]

I purchased this a week ago, I configured it myself with all the parts I want with it before the order. And it arrived in 5 in day. Happy with this laptop, never-ever would want any other laptop, it was love at first sight .

[@klein648]

Linus: releases a video Framework: Aaaand you crashed our website

[@pwnzya]

I know right. I want to "configure my laptop" but can't!!! Help!!!

[@Cashmeister96]

@@pwnzya so I'm not the only one 😂

[@crt5866]

I tried to see if I could get one too XD

[@ketmax2805]

Unintentional DDoS attack lol

[@deathjunior7755]

Lmao yup having the same issue