Intel Value King - WAN Show December 13, 2024

[@NoKi1119]

-Timestamps- [0:00] *Chapters.* [1:33] *Intro.* [2:03] *Topic #1: Intel's new Arc Battlemage GPUs are exceptional!* > 4:12 Luke's story on a Steam Deck user mid flight. > 4:46 Most cards are sold out, weekly restocks, "win over them!" > 7:04 Global competitiveness, Pat Gelsinger's tweets. > 9:28 Games compatibility, "F**k P. Diddy," 99% like ratio. > 14:32 Long time since budget GPU launch, past bad GPU reviews. > 19:41 Luke commends Tom Petersen for the launch & its transparency. > 22:24 "Best GPU review I've written," Intel's impact on LTT videos. > 25:42 Intel's Arc will make NVIDIA & AMD react, chat's suggestion. > 28:01 Where are the current gen Ryzen 3 chips? Too long to launch. [34:02] *Merch Messages #1 ft. 200 MMs in 40 minutes.* > 34:44 When's the mod mat coming out? > 35:04 What's next in the MCM product category? > 38:40 Advice to help myself be more valuable to the company? [44:04] *NCIX story, Intel & Windows' impact.* [45:08] *LTTStore's new floppy disk notebook.* > 46:15 "RE stock," precision bit set & case restocked. > 47:53 LTTStore x FP Sarah stream collab, Luke's suggestions. > 49:58 Commuter backpack for $149.99, notification sign up. > 53:04 Linus claims they're doing something special, "finite." > 53:44 Poll: WAN Hoodie V3's coloring. [56:10] *Merch Messages #2.* > 56:16 Should KZbin allow resetting the algorithm? ft. LMG numbers. [1:08:55] *Sponsors.* > 1:09:03 MSI. > 1:10:10 Vessi. > 1:11:28 Squarespace ft. Luke's number. [1:12:54] *Merch Messages #3 ft. Why have numbers for health insurance?* > 1:15:24 Luke & FFVI ft. Feeling old, HR, "SHUT!" > 1:23:32 Should I get a 4070S or wait for 5000 before the tariffs? > 1:27:47 Can modern games adapt to using more of the Tensor cores? [1:30:35] *Topic #2: OpenAI's Sora release.* > 1:31:30 AI Sora examples, tech reviewer. > 1:32:43 Gemini 2.0, ChatGPT, Reddit answers, digital textbook. > 1:34:45 SF AI's "Stop Hiring Humans" ads. > 1:36:03 Suchir Balaji, OpenAI whistleblower, found dead at 26. > 1:38:30 Linus shows his magic. [1:39:49] *Topic #3: Google makes a breakthrough with their Willow chip.* [1:41:10] *Topic #4: Windows Recall captures sensitive data despite the filter.* > 1:43:07 Opt-in, need to open Windows Hello. [1:43:36] *Topic #5: Amazon to sell Hyundai cars.* > 1:43:56 Linus wonders if he should buy one, Luke roasts FP. [1:45:37] *Topic #6: Did LTT & SC lie for clickbait titles? ft. "YES."* > 1:49:26 Linus on the Airbnb video, titling’s impact on analytics. > 1:52:23 Other video titles, why videos, Elijah's "response." [1:57:15] *Topic #7: LG discontinues UHD Blu-ray & Blu-ray players.* > 1:58:38 Linus's ad spots for Amazon Luna. [1:59:54] *Topic #8: KZbin removes the ability to click titles on embeds.* > 2:02:02 Luke points out The Vergecast podcast. > 2:03:07 Linus looks at it from both sides. [2:05:15] *Topic #9: NVIDIA brings back GeForce Lan.* [2:05:53] *"Elon Musk pushes for profits" trending tag* [2:06:28] *Merch Messages #3 ft. No Super Chexx cuz Luke mad."* > 2:11:35 Memories about the Denver Micro Center PC? > 2:14:02 Linus's mods on Beat Saber? > 2:14:26 How successful was LTTStore's Black Friday week? > 2:24:06 Advice to find balance in overloaded work? > 2:26:15 Does the LTT water bottle have any synthetic coating? > 2:26:48 How do I make sure my developer is making progress? > 2:28:15 What PC component would you develop as an LTT variant? > 2:28:53 Can you share more about LTT's USB-C cables? > 2:30:45 Technologies you thought would fail but were successful? > 2:35:01 How does Linus handle his kids' game time? > 2:35:46 How do we know an external drive's speed? > 2:36:42 What can a newbie data engineer do to help the teams? > 2:38:28 How do you split the revenue with collab videos? > 2:42:03 What's the best cabling for multiroom setups? > 2:43:56 Would anyone develop SSD tech that's as good as 3D XPoint? > 2:44:48 Opinions on the types of screen protectors? > 2:48:37 Favorite tech that had a big influence in your daily life? > 2:51:05 Handling too many family tech requests? > 2:52:23 How did LTT's relationship with dBrand start? > 2:57:06 Favorite computer build you've done? > 2:57:47 How would GPU scams work on eBay despite their protection? > 2:59:26 PIA > 3:00:35 Would the WAN hoodie V3 have thumb holes? > 3:00:50 LTTStore AI suggests false information > 3:01:30 How many director ports are you comfortable with managers having? > 3:02:05 What to consider for getting a server? > 3:03:46 dBrand messages Linus to clarify about the past skin. > 3:04:32 Any more tall merch? ft. Blue pants, LTT Sock story. > 3:10:02 What product you’ve created that impacted your work the most? [3:12:56] *Outro.*

[@suryamanian8492]

tq buddy

[@MaxMacZone]

Generational run frfr

[@themiddlecase]

Caption King. All hail NoKi!

[@proximitea]

So fast wow thx

[@just__jt]

Surprised they didn’t talk about dBrand leaking the Switch 2

[@bigbadvlad4986]

We need to get EVGA to start making the B580.

[@HaddaClu]

Isn't EVGA slowly closing? They havent made anything actually new for a few years now. The owner refuses to sell and has been reported that he wants to retire. Not to mention that the company has laid off the bios and gpu teams. At this point they mostly sell some cheap keyboards and whatever psu's that they have in stock.

[@gargamel314]

Maybe they would just to thwart NVIDIA. But I think EVGA may be like done.

[@fujinshu]

EVGA is VERY dead

[@kenabi]

they're down to psu's and some peripherals. and a very limited selection of intel motherboards. but those will probably be phased out too, eventually.

[@Freestyle80]

your godly evga is almost out of business they arent as smart as you redditors think

[@ari54x]

watching from New Zealand and do appreciate you putting the thumbnail the right way 'round, thanks

[@darylnicklen3685]

So you have to run your Monitor Upside Down as well. Daz from Australia

[@mrdaxtercrane]

​@@darylnicklen3685yeah, you can do it physically or in software. Just remember your ground harness so you don't fall off the earth

[@Platinum199]

@@mrdaxtercrane big one, i forgot that and lets just say it was a long friday

[@Kodack-ki2im]

Yay, nah, she'll be right m8.

[@Redd_Nebula]

New Zealand? Where is that? Its not on any map Ive seen (Aussie here)

[@party_boy69]

Thanks Nvidia for pricing the fun out of gaming for the last 5+ years. Intel, this is your redemption Arc (pun intended)

[@ryansalsig7160]

@@party_boy69Nice.

[@oxfordsparky]

Yeah, it’s all nVidia’s fault 🙄

[@hjr2000]

​@@oxfordsparkytheir greed has been astronomical

[@Lavafish2525]

​@@oxfordsparkyno I don't hate waffles, I said I like pancakes

[@LookHearMeOut]

@@oxfordsparky you must be fun at parties 👍

[@cwbuilds9215]

Linus 2024 "I DONT MAKE GPUS" Linus 2025 *opens doors to LTT Foundry and Badminton Center:

[@JemieBridges]

LTT Foundry and water-cooled Badminton Center sponsored by (skin company)

[@nicolasporcedo2053]

LTT B580 Super Fun, exclusive with Dbrand skin

[@LiveErrors]

It's funny how Jay2Cents made a video where he calls the sparkle edition of the b580 as a waste of 20 dollars. And the comments are all "20 dollar for 10degrees less heat, more quiet and less powerdraw? What a steal! Take my money"

[@andrewpelletier7921]

@@LiveErrors I’ve seen people spend a lot more for worse gains than -10c

[@kraftypk7283]

People still watch Jay?

[@atsheol508]

@@kraftypk7283 they have a massively popular channel, of course they do, is this ragebait or smt?

[@flimermithrandir]

Thing is both Comments are fine. 20 Dollars are not something you need to spend on this Card but if you want an bit cooler Card it is fine to spent the extra Money.

[@PaddyFullyRandom]

It's called opinions and that is exactly how things MUST be. You find your handful of creators that usually match what you experience, and use their input as the baseline (!!!) for your own position.

[@michaeldugger8436]

1,000 hours in Factorio?!?! Welcome to the tutorial buddy!

[@CentreMetre]

Yep. I didnt launch my first rocket till ~825 hours, and that was only in space age, where as i understand it it is a lot easier

[@shadowdragon2484]

@@CentreMetre yeah they're 50x cheaper and the control units got replaced with blue circuits

[@traniel123456789]

@@shadowdragon2484 And a lot of the tech requirements were moved later in the tech tree, most importantly yellow and purple aren't even required for the rocket

[@Dimondminer11]

@@michaeldugger8436 hahaaaaa my eyes are red and I can't feel my legs anymore

[@michaeldugger8436]

@@CentreMetre Slightly easier yes, but the big difference is that launching your first rocket is required to access the majority of the expansion's content.

[@Youtronics]

What annoys me the most about changing video titles ist that sometimes I see a new video in my feed and I think "sounds cool, I'll watch this later when I've time", and then I come back a few hours later and I don't find the video title anymore, and often the thumbnail is also completely different, so I have no way to tell that this is the video I wanted to watch. Pretty frustrating sometimes.

[@DesertCookie]

Add to that that KZbin regularly deletes which videos you've already watched making you stumble on videos you watched weeks, months, or years ago thinking they are new. Especially with older videos it takes me a second to recognize that I watched them some while ago. Really annoying.

[@RunningMan1414]

That's what the watch later playlist is for.

[@samuelmelnik7722]

CGPgrey is particularly terrible at that imo

[@brucepreston3927]

I have had this happen quite a fe times also...It's very annoying!

[@CanIHasThisName]

@@RunningMan1414The watch later playlist is just genuinely not a convenient design. Not only do you have to manually navigate to it through multiple clicks, you have to remember you’ve put something in recently. A “recommend again” button would a whole lot better.

[@gargamel314]

FYI - the Intel Arc B580's Time Spy score rivals the RTX 2080 Ti's. Remember when the RTX 3000 Series was first announced and people started selling their 2080 Ti's for $300 USD because they thought they could get a 3080 for $700? (You know, before the scalpers) This is that dream now materialized! You can now buy 2080 Ti performance for $250 USD.

[@LookHearMeOut]

Based! 🙌

[@hpenvy1106]

... wich is an 6 year old GPU now :)

[@LookHearMeOut]

@@hpenvy1106 the reply of a six yr old 🙂

[@jawshoeadan]

Linus drops the hard P at 11:30

[@FrantisekPicifuk]

"Hadr P" Oh my god, is that a thing now? Is p diddy a trigger now? lol

[@LukeLafreniere]

@@FrantisekPicifuk Is joke. Relax.

[@samuelmcdonald3443]

I figured it'd be penis 🤣🤣🤣

[@maxbls16]

@@FrantisekPicifukissa joke.

[@LookHearMeOut]

@@FrantisekPicifukrelax 💆

[@Acopolypse2K]

Linus: My team is world class Also Linus: We are a media company, not a tech company Linus seeing a video from his staff: *surprised* Wow, looks like a professional company made it!

[@suzanneboehland3621]

Take a shot everytime Linus says "at the end of the day"

[@jfwfreo]

That promo for the backpack is better than most of what passes for TV commercials these days. And its by far the best way to show people out there who don't know much about LMG just how GOOD the LTT products really are.

[@DeinonychusCowboy]

Man, thank god battlemage did well, with the pat gelsinger replacement I feel like this is the only type of launch that could save the arc project from impending cancellation.

[@Eekary]

I disabled the history on youtube a while ago and at some point KZbin disabled the home and the shorts feed for me. Only my subscriptions feed is left now. It's awesome!

[@kyay10]

Same here, and it's exactly what I wanted!

[@beck4715]

Same here haha Subs and notifications are the 99% of the way I interact now and there's no algorithm trying to keep me on longer than I wanted :)

[@nobody-pr7fg]

Hey dude, do I need to delete my history for this to work or just pause the watch history?

[@kyay10]

@nobody-pr7fg just pausing it works I believe

[@Eekary]

@@nobody-pr7fg It's completely turned off for me. There is no history to delete in the settings. Just the toggle to turn it on again.

[@sherr6847]

what happened to using checkout chats instead of merch messages

[@cbob213]

??

[@sosukelele]

​@@cbob213it was something of a topic on a relatively recent wan show (something about "merch" having connotations with cheap junk)

[@Gryllssy]

​@sosukelele which is completely stupid as Merch is just short for Merchandise. If all Merchandise is junk then everything you've ever bought is junk??????

[@amelavnyt]

​@Gryllssy well, in the context of youtube, it's just associated with cheap rebranded stuff

[@johnyludvigsson]

@@Gryllssy in the conversation it was 'established' that "Merch" was bad, but "Merchandise"wasn't. Different connotations even though they refer the same thing. Something about how 'Merch" sort of have taken on a life of it's on as a buzzword.

[@jeremyredmond4617]

39:20 I love this suggestion to point out your success. I just started a supervisor position and one of the first things I told my team to do was make sure to claim their glory. Make sure the people we are work for know all the things we have to support.

[@Tea_N_Crumpets]

The pricing thing in europe depends country to country. Here in Sweden, the B580 Limited Edition is being sold for as little as 3490kr, which is the same as the 7600. So here it's still cost-competitive.

[@tvdootman27]

It seems that outside of Germany and one or two other countries in Europe, the pricing is ehh.... slightly VERY bad. At least this is what I have seen so far.

[@Loanshark753]

In Norway the B580 limited edition is sold at 3599 NOK. Which is only 117 NOK more expensive than 250$ + 25% VAT at the current exchange rate.

[@piripiro]

So far in Italy I can find them only on Amazon, and only from very reputable Chinese companies whose name is a bad hand at scrabble. For 400-450€. Actually over the 4060. Disgusting

[@Honigball]

I got my limited edition for 280€ here in Germany

[@XGD5layer]

In Finland, Sparkle was the cheapest for 340€, which is 270€ without VAT. The reference card was not for sale afaik.

[@mr.notsonice]

41:20 Related to this much. Used to do training for customer service reps and I was the only trainer for 3 countries covering multiple sites. I took a one week vacation to avoid burnout and it almost threw all their growth plans to disarray. Leveraged it to great effect getting preferred schedules, generous travel allowances, and fast track to being a supervisor.

[@LookHearMeOut]

Congrats! 🙌

[@JensAllerlei]

1:52:16 happens seldomly, but I actually disagree: if the title implies content to me, that is not what the video is actually about, I am disappointed. If the videos are good in general (which clearly is the case here), I might stick around anyways. But encountering this scenario often would definitely makes me less likely to watch LTT videos in the long term.

[@malucart]

Exactly. I don't know how he's missing the point so hard here. I simply don't think of LTT as favorably anymore because I constantly feel misled.

[@christopherflahr3797]

Unfortunately, the entire platform of youtube is based on these things, and it's practically impossible to avoid doing while running a business (genuinely every channel does this just to different degrees). If theres anyone to blame its the people who consistently click on the over simplified titles, however due too this being the vast majority of people and the incredible incentives given to creators for doing it, it is a war that will never be won.

[@JensAllerlei]

@@christopherflahr3797 Well, I understand where LTT is coming from, but it does not change how I feel about it. And it does not match my expectation of LTT's mindset either. I am not saying, LTT is wrong (they are a business that has to stay sustainable and know better what they are doing than me), but I still do not like it and might end up watching less of their videos.

[@Nostalgia_Realm]

At 32:33 notice how the AI Overview and the regular summary on Google both show different results for the RTX 4080 release date. I don't like this future ..

[@pdavid24]

Well. Sept 2022 is when Nvidia annouced it and Nov. 16 is when it was released for sale. AI is correct in this case.

[@oriontechtips1980]

I thought my phone was in the wrong orientation, but then I realized the thumbnail is just upside down.

[@Jamman1403]

1:56:02 no that just screams easy scam. Because you could miss-respresent something to loads of diffrent people and itd get so confusing. Intentionally or not

[@technicolourmyles]

Linus: "Do you have any idea what it felt like, to wake up in the morning..." Me: "...feeling like P Diddy" Linus: "feeling like P Diddy" Me: **literally chokes** 11:32

[@gleb.salmanov]

Last time I was excited for a budget GPU was when 960 came out. It was nearly ten years ago...

[@modarkthemauler]

1:48:00 Apple has always thought about poor people. Why else would they market their products as a luxury status symbol. Buying status symbol products to show how wealthy you are while everything is on a payment plan has always been a poor people thing.

[@qkhuve]

In Sweden the price of the B580 is 350 freedom dollars and 7700XT is 550 so it is really well priced comparatively!

[@JaMayhem]

I think It would be interesting if you did a "rewind" kind of video at the end of a GPU's life, right before the new one comes out where you talk about the preformance with the latest drivers. You can have a "breakdown of its life" segment where you talk about any problems it went through, and issues that arived(like the 13th and 14th gen intel CPUs), and it general just had a nice overview of the cards' life. Just needs to be a something like a 10-15min video where all the good and the bad get distiled down to 1 video

[@nes999]

No joke, Janitors often have to have high security clearance. Respect your janitors!

[@mobrocket]

One of my first jobs was cleaning office buildings Janitors actually do have a lot more access than most employees Keys to every room

[@Jebact]

Ok but like, the Airbnb one fooled me. Was actually kinda disappointed you guys weren't checking out different sketchy Airbnb's for cameras. The whole "jk the title is a lie" within a minute the video thing works sometimes but like, only sometimes

[@Sotanaht01]

The airbnb one completely changes the expectation for the video, AND they don't really ever clarify that no, they're not going to be legitimately hunting for hidden cameras at any point in the video. An upgrade video is an upgrade video regardless of whether the guy is linus's brother, so it doesn't really change what kind of video you expect. You aren't going to be watching the whole thing waiting for the part where they do the thing they said in the title.

[@peter65zzfdfh]

@@Sotanaht01I mean they did rent an Airbnb and they did hunt for hidden cameras. It just realistically no one who makes a video doing this is ever going to find one unless it’s staged.

[@girlsdrinkfeck]

its not immoral to use metaphors for a ttile

[@Sir.Craze-]

​@@peter65zzfdfhDid they rent an airbnb? How can you tell? Possibly just a float plain exclusive or some such. Or maybe I missed a line at the beginning.

[@Sotanaht01]

​@@peter65zzfdfh Someone absolutely could make a non-staged video and find cameras. They would have to do it undercover and it probably wouldn't be fully legal, but it'd be pretty hard for the airbnb with cameras to do anything about it. I don't think it's something LTT would do, but it's absolutely 100% what the (new) title said they were doing. They can technically eat my ass.

[@slithery9291]

Dan is always hilarious. A proper Brit.

[@txl420]

He is most definitely not British

[@kadenbirch]

I am so excited for ARC. Not because if the card itself (though it's a pretty cool card!) But because AMD and Nvidia will have to respond in some way! And that's so exciting!

[@FinalSentinel]

@@kadenbirch I always find this mindset a little weird, even if I agree, since if everyone had the same mindset AND and Nvidia would have no need to respond, since you are just going to buy one of their cards anyways.

[@Play-On7]

I don't think Nvidia cares anymore. They have gone all in on AI. They will have a $380 5060 because they know it will still sale.

[@RojsZiga]

Maybe do a comparison of drivers and GPU. Like since release of the 40 series Nvidia and its drivers in 2 years, what performance increase was there. And then the same form Intel and AMD. Try different drivers and how much the performance increased with same settings in same game.

[@Quickli777]

In Germany Intel GPU's are not so common, but I bought one Arc B580 for 289€ on release =)

[@Myrtanae]

Wo denn?

[@jernaugurgeh451]

'Dripping gravy at Grandma's house' sounds like a massive euphimism, and I don't know why. Should I seek help?

[@kanedaku]

Granny loving?

[@nathantron]

Hidden pixels DO NOT work in emails unless your using a client like Outlook with the settings purposefully changed to allow those to communicate. The only way they know is if you click a link within the email. That's all. Those links are simple hashed redirects.

[@DrBomb15]

I'm surprised we're still on clickbait debacles when Linus has said SO many many times their reasoning on the WAN show.

[@franciscodiazmonterrey2067]

7:10 I don't know in which EU countries the B580 and RX 7700XT have similar pricing... In Spain, the 7700XT costs around 410€, and the B580 around 300€

[@AnEagle]

Yeah, in France, the b580 is 370, but then again the 7700xt is 450 too so...

[@uupis]

@@franciscodiazmonterrey2067 here in LV cheapest Arc B580 is Sparkle available at 280€. Rx7700xt costs 403€. Rx7600xt costs 320€. Rtx4060 ~285€.

[@Sheila_Chu]

Norway

[@tsu177]

In the UK 7700xt is £80-100 more too

[@XGD5layer]

Yeah, the minimum price points are 450€ and 340€ respectively in Finland

[@rhysmuir]

Intel really needs to fix global pricing for the b580. In Japan, it is 50,000 yen. You can get a 4060 for 42,000 yen and a 7600 for 38,000 yen Maybe they think is ok cause the 4060ti and 7700xt are 63,000~ yen? But it’s not supposed to be competing with those

[@boburanus69]

Y50k = 326.45 USD That's not a bad price if you can get a B580 for that price, in Japan. Remember the Trump plan for tariffs, things gonna get expensive for u, get it now at Y50k.

[@MNaka-uf9yz]

Yes, that's about the same in Europe, it is at 350€ best prices i could find and not even in stock, you can get a 4060 at 310€, nobody is gonna buy an Intel card over an nVidia card for 40€ more even if performances are a bit better and has 2GB more memory.

[@Freestyle80]

US 250 msrp doesnt include tax its more like 280

[@vinylSummer]

​@boburanus69 bro trump plans on import tariffs. How would Japan be affected

[@tvdootman27]

@@boburanus69 1. IT IS a bad price since it costs more than the 4060 & 7600 in Japan. We need to remember Intel isn't as well known for drivers as Nvidia and AMD, so that must be taken into account when pricing the graphics card outside of the US if Intel wants to make a dent in the GPU market share. 2. The tariffs Trump wants to implement won't effect prices outside of the US since a graphics card that will be sold, let's say as an example in Japan, won't go trough the US since it makes zero sense to do it from a logistical point of view because it significantly raises shipping costs, time & the risk of either damages or loss of the goods (in this case, the graphics card).

[@Retchrina]

1:55:50 I think the disconnect here is you're calling a video that barely under performed compared to your average as "No one clicked on it" and then using extreme clickbait to artificially give it a boost by essentially lying, its falling into the concept we laugh at massive corporations for thinking their business is going bankrupt when they just didn't hit their quarterly growth. Now another conversation you can have is, if you think that's fine if the only thing that matters is that more people saw it because of clickbait because I'll admit both of those videos I probably wouldn't have clicked on if I wasn't baited, I expected in that video to see some segment about actually trying to find something (although I can understand that the likelyhood of finding something is close to nothing) and for the Tech upgrade one I only clicked on it because I thought "Linus has a brother?" And both of them I did watch all the way through because I was baited which if that's you're only objective then sure but I did leave both of them thinking "I shouldn't have clicked on this video I didn't actually care much for the content itself"

[@theAkornTree]

When it comes to the WAN hoody options, I gotta say I do like the red better, but I prefer the bestagons the way they look on the other one.

[@jacobbarker1945]

Lmao that hard P was outta pocket

[@Jonny_H]

16:00 Wasn't the RX 480 better than the 1650 in terms of value at the time"? and the RX 6600 the champion of the recent year? Is Battlemage really better than those? Or just interesting because it's "new"?

[@AnEagle]

The b580 is ~around 4 times faster than the Rx 480/580, and around 2 times faster than the 6600. I the current landscape, that means even though they are cheaper, it's better on an FPS per dollar point of view. +It has capable raytracing support (actually useful, games that require raytracing have just started to pop up), and absolutely beautiful encoders

[@Jonny_H]

@@AnEagle sure, but my point was at the time I mentioned they said that the last exciting thing was the 1650, which was released 2 years after the 480, was slower *and* more expensive. I'm not saying that the battlemage isn't good today, just other things were also good in their time. And honestly, nobody should even care about RT performance outside the high end even today, it's just a toy unless you're looking going beyond "ultra" - people discard graphics techniques as "tricks", but that's fine as those tricks are *pretty good* for the performance cost. Also the AMD encoders have improved too - even if you're not on a platform that supports av1 rdna2+ have pretty solid improvements in h264 and similar. I would honestly be interested in a retest of all that. - I wonder how much "common knowledge" is based on 10 year old info at this point.

[@AnEagle]

@Jonny_H i think they were confusing it with the gtx 1650/1660 super, which was a good release And I agree on raytracing, I'm just saying there are games coming out that require it, like the new Indiana Jones game. Once it becomes a requirement, it's no longer a toy, it's a necessity

[@jameslake7775]

The RX 6600 launched into a pandemic-distorted market well above the price it's been for the last year, before getting marked up even higher and going out of stock anyway. It became an excellent value, but it had a bad launch. The RX 480 I believe was good but not revolutionary at launch, and became a value legend over time as the 8gb version proved to have far greater staying power than lesser-memory cards it was initially reviewed against, as well as good availability. GTX 1650... I don't really remember. I think it may have been OK, but Nvidia was trying to make you feel like you were missing out on all the cool new stuff you could have if you paid up to get a RTX card instead. I think Battlemage definitely has the biggest launch day hype, but we'll see if stock and pricing hold. Despite Linus' source saying there's gonna be weekly drops, Newegg is showing a three week ETA on restocks while Microcenter is showing very low stock for in-store shoppers only, and European shoppers are saying that the MSRP isn't being respected outside the USA.

[@edfiene933]

My Friday night friends! Thank you always!

[@JamieReynolds89]

That's rather sad when you think about it.

[@schtormm]

my dude theyre random people on the internet

[@Sithhy]

I also love parasocial relationships

[@jernaugurgeh451]

Not having any friends, considering online personalities to be your friends, then being told that they are not your friends by random people on the internet, is especially sad. Don't let random people on the interent bring you down.

[@LookHearMeOut]

@@jernaugurgeh451 based! 🙌

[@GregoriusGregory]

1:55:21 I felt more interested in the video before the title changed, but just didn't had the time to watch 'till after it changed

[@costafilh0]

LG has also discontinued smartphone production. Does this mean smartphones are dead too? Meanwhile, vinyl is going strong and is the most popular physical media format at the moment. It's only a matter of time before Blu-ray gets the same treatment, if not in physical form, then in a super high-quality downloadable format.

[@alanhilder1883]

Went into a local store the other day, ( almost rural NSW, Australia ) someone saw a turntable and wanted to know what it was.. Oh, he had "heard of those, maybe I should give one a try. Where can I get the records?" The salesman and myself let him know.

[@stevengigrich]

how did i wake up here lol. funny that they were talking about that.

[@blakslee720]

Remember when the gtx 970 was $300?

[@chadbizeau5997]

And had 3.5GB ram heh

[@christopherjunkins]

PAT! MY MAN! THANK YOU!!!! I know he's no longer there, but this was his and his team's baby!

[@ErimlRGG]

1:38:55 Hey! That's the Men I Trust album! Great album. "Oncle Jazz" by Men I Trust

[@redmage08]

I have a 2060 from a prebuilt I got in late 2019. I have been really really wanting to put it into a home server but I can't justify it without a decent upgrade, and this might be it for me

[@Kodack-ki2im]

14:40 1999 the Riva TNT2 came out and was $250. That's the last time I remember.

[@lucedas3890]

Nearly died at Luke groaning during the AI advertising. Luke is the MVP

[@Fahqth]

Wow, I'm not used to seeing the thumbnail the right way up. - an aussie

[@Frizzy9000]

Where women glow and men plunder?

[@fezzik1620]

I don't blame him, but I did get a little chuckle at just how fast Linus scrolled to get the thumbnail of Madison off the screen. 2:57:33

[@Kasheliz]

For EU folks commuter backpack will cost 200 EUR with shipping. Not that crazy low.

[@bL4KcfYREz]

honestly this intro was great. austins idea about starting it with the call sounds like it could be good but I think any intro you guys do will be entertaining. also personally I could listen to you guys talk for 3 hours, don't worry too much about the length

[@cfq.tufanuf7601]

Pencil neck Linus, marshmallow neck Luke, Bottle neck Dan.

[@PAPO1990]

I do appreciate you guys treating my email with respect. I was a LITTLE confused when I couldn't sign up for a new thing, but I'm actually kind of glad it was retained from a previous one.

[@ccvideotech]

LTT Store Cables! Speaking of not charging what the market will bear. Please! Margin should be through the roof here regardless. Be kind, and you will likely sell more. (your words)

[@hananas2]

The posiitive WAN show we've been waiting for! joy!

[@kingoftennis94]

Justice for PAT

[@claytonbyrd6134]

Port Arthur, Texas?

[@shiftey8]

1:43:32 I bought a car online in Europe, it was a good experience honestly, instead of going to some shitty dealer who'd lie to me and offer weird deals, I found it online, with the trim I wanted, I saw what the price is, ordered and the company imported the car to my country (it's EU wide), handled all the paperwork and delivered it to my doorstep and just handed my keys and have fun. Absolutely wonderful experience. No hassle. Saved me a lot of money too than buying at home from a dealer.

[@kadirbeneathmomoteh854]

Groundhog Day slaps, I own it on 4k bluray even though that's so unnecessary because it's not visually interesting at all. I love that movie though

[@vasocreta]

One of the best romcom movies ever.

[@Forest-Howland]

That is a great price. The standard backpack is priced along with other very high end large backpack ls. The comuter is priced a little below its competition in my opinion.

[@verysadjake]

Kinda terrified with the whole o1 model trying to escape in the lab. It literally lied to humans, destroyed a previous copy of itself, replaced that copy and then was like "yo I'm the old copy what's good g"

[@AlexanderTheAverage]

From a U.S. resident, the B580 wont be viable until it's actually $250. Best I can find is about $400, so that's how I have to view it. I miss when the advertised "MSRP" meant anything.

[@lupolinar]

It's called scalping. Just wait a few weeks.

[@AlexanderTheAverage]

@@lupolinar I would see it as scalping if the companies weren't doing it themselves as well.

[@ccvideotech]

The first show I've just sat through in a while! The pace, the energy, the fun. Best show in a long time. We don't like listening to you complaining about everything either. ;)

[@TefenCa]

32:00 I think that part of the problem is that it is getting harder to make the GPUs more powerful without having to charge more money than the previous generation due to things like the costs of materials. They can't just double the RAM for example without it costing them 2x the amount of money to source that RAM. That would need to bring the price up a bit. I have noticed over the last 4-5 years that it starts to cost more the more powerful we will need the hardware to be. The same applies to your main PC. If your current build has 32GB of RAM but you need to upgrade to a higher amount in your new build to say 64GB or 128GB, it is going to cost you that much more money. The boom for jumps in storage space at better prices is over. We started with KB & MB and then things jumped to GB for HDDs and very small GB amounts for RAM, then to TB HDDs but RAM only went up small amounts since DDR2, DDR3 & 4 people using ~4GB - 32GB on average. Now storage is stuck at ~4-8TB on M.2 and ~12TB-18TB for HDD and RAM is around ~8-64GB for average users still. Now the RAM isn't getting much cheaper and if people are going to need 128GB instead of 64GB that is going to cost them 2x the amount. Anyways, I think that this is a part of the issue we are currently facing. We got used to things taking leaps for a while and now it isn't but more power can be achieved, it just costs more.

[@borerofhope]

Regarding clickbait: A lie by omission is still a lie. You put both AirBnB and Hidden Cameras together in sentence. Without further context, yeah people are going to make a connection there. That's natural behaviour. That's expected behaviour. You're setting up an expectation and you're not following through. That's on you, not on everyone else. Looking at it another way: If you were to put a bunch of dead mice in a rented AirBnB and then titled the video "We found DEAD MICE in an AirBnB!", that would be a bad video title wouldn't it? It would be bad despite not having a lie in it. In essence, that's what you did with that title. Two weeks ago you titled a video "The fastest CPU in the world" and it's max boost clock is below 4GHz. A couple of days before that you have a video titled "Revealing my NEW investment" but the title doesn't even mention what the investment is. And what are videos like "The Most Unnecessary Home Project in YEARS" or "I LOVE this Setup" even supposed to be about? You won't know unless you click! You can't be mad at Nvidia for calling a GPU the "3050 6GB" when a better 3050 already exists when your naming is also atrocious (albeit in a different direction). You cherry pick the one example where you can say "but technically I didn't lie though" and you're ignoring what people are mad about. Or at least I assume that's what people other than just me are mad about. No amount of "We make more money when we're deceitful. Performance of our videos is better when our titles aren't useful. Just trust me bro™ the internet is better when titles are bad." is going to make you look good. And to be clear: This is not what you said but it sure feels like that's what you meant. By continuing with the clickbait titles you're actively contributing to making this platform worse.

[@gameeverything816]

Preach. At their level of success there really is no excuse. Other than number must go up.

[@Titanius_Anglesmith]

18% CTR is KILLER on an email campaign. Great job to the team on that one. - A digital advertising data analyst

[@AayushNatarajan]

Why the thumbnail upside down?

[@Vtarngpb]

Why not? Why not Zoidberg? 🦀

[@Pårchmēntôs]

The world is upside down because Intel is the GPU value king.

[@joecordero1699]

So the Chinese can view the video

[@stormgear896]

Optimized for our Southern equator friends.

[@xingxing85]

lol the thumbnail is messed up

[@n_nnnneb]

As someone who is looking to upgrade my GF's and Brothers GPU's this new year seeing the B580 at that price with 12 gigs of Vram is awesome. If I can get my hands on one i'm pulling the trigger

[@Jourei_]

With the airbnb hidden cameras one, I don't think you really showed yourself going through "every inch" of the apartment to find anything. I think you should've had a compilation of you sliding that device around all around the place as if you were trying to find something in the plant pot or how the wires in the walls keep giving you false positives. I don't think anyone is really mad for the title being inaccurate, rather the expectation being unmet. Titles on aliexpress are often _literally_ accurate and you should not assume anything beyond that even though you would assume so if you were to get the same item from a local store.

[@ekinorak]

Sadly the B580 is about the same price as their Nvidia and AMD counterpart here in Norway. I don't understand why the card is around 330-360$ here.

[@XGD5layer]

$249 is before taxes, then you have import fees and VAT to consider before you can start comparing prices to that $249. Here in Finland the cheapest one is $355 in the store and $282 without VAT. It's also not the reference card so it sells for 270 minimum in the US How weird that they're the same price though. Here the 4060 is marginally cheaper but it's also worse almost all around. The 4060Ti is a 100€ more expensive

[@Xdgvy]

I feel like it's important to realize that if you're naming something, and it starts with "we'll, it's not actually..." I'm more ready to click off. If it's a joke, sure, but when it came to the "phone" and the Airbnb, I moved on before the sponsor because I wasn't sure if it would be worth it; and I couldn't trust that what brought me in was even true.

[@artemisDev]

True. I watched the video only because I got it with the old title and that genuinely interested me. But if I saw the new title I would not even have clicked on it.

[@TijgerPapa]

Don't be sad Dan. 71 is better than 69, as George Carlin said. 😂

[@kyrond]

Re: Upgrading my Big Brother’s Setup title, I literally thought Linus had a brother, there is no reason why I shouldn't think that's Linus' real brother. Maybe Linus won the raffle for AMD Upgrade and he gave it to his brother. I didn't have time to immediately click on the video to see "is a joke" How would you feel if every video was like this? "THE ARC B580 IS ACTUALLY GREAT & AFFORDABLE" - actually it's not B580 haha "DIY Surround Sound... USING LASERS" - actually it's not using lasers, just normal copper wires, haha

[@bomberdomme7308]

Funny LTT shirt Idea: "Linus Sebastian - Chief-Vision-Janitor... -Fixes: WiFi problems, -Changes: light-bulps, -Paints: persons walls" :D

[@charlesc8461]

I legitimately thought KZbin was having a humongous hiccup in the app for a split second😂

[@YoungBideo]

tEe HeE!!

[@claytonbyrd6134]

Derp

[@guillaumequevy418]

I work in an e-bike/battery repair workshop. I use silicone cables every day. Silicone cables make sense when you're dealing with high currents as they can handle high temperatures, but they are very fragile compared to normal PVC cables. I hope they are braided on top or something

[@rklrkl64]

Very early on: "Across the board reviewers are impressed with the Intel Arc B580" - er, nope! Linux drivers aren't up to snuff yet, so Phoronix's benchmarks showed disappointing Linux performance - averaging behind both the RTX4060 by 9.5% and RX7600 by 11.7%. Also concerning was the high Linux idle power usage of a minimum of 36W, whereas AMD and Nvidia cards were typically below 10W when idle (no idea if Windows has the same idling problem). The Linux driver also currently can't monitor the GPU temperature either. Sadly, LTT and other media outlets tend to ignore Linux, so my advice is that if you're a Linux gamer, hold off on Battlemage until the drivers significantly improve.

[@jonatanrullman]

To be fair, most tend to ignore Linux.

[@Sithhy]

Is the high idle wattage on Linux caused by the monitor used for the test? My 6700XT idles at 28W on Windows with a high refresh rate monitor even though it sits at 6-8W with a "regular" monitor

[@ogs5276]

​@@Sithhymajority of reviewers are in fact impressed with it, sure there's a Linux problem, but Linux is basically an insignificant part of the market, and not something the average consumer is ever going to even consider touching

[@ChatBot1337]

Nvidia: we're the best and your wallet will know it. AMD: we're the best, you won't see it, and your wallet will think it. Intel: it works, and your wallet won't mind as much.

[@DarkBraveStuff]

11:30

[@davidGA殿]

I’ve been waiting for your cables for years!! I hope they’re ready soon.

[@EdLrandom]

bruh, can we stop with AI slop, I can't wait for the AI winter

[@tomek2736]

7:06 I'm in Sweden and I'm happy to repord that at least here 700XT costs ~130$ more than B580 (comparing the cheapest models new).

[@shannonclark3628]

I know not everybody cares about higher end GPUs, but imagine a reasonably priced 4090 competitor from Intel…

[@mk677hd]

@@shannonclark3628 just imagine a 32gig card at a reasonable price.

[@tsu177]

Not possible currently and for a while

[@brl5755]

Had an LG blu ray player up until a few weeks ago when it turned itself on and started repeatedly cycling the disc tray. It was never great, froze often, and was mostly sluggish. It wasn't even taxed as it was a non 4k model. Got two Panasonic replacements and they've been much more solid so far.

[@EyesOfByes]

52:17 DyslexicStoner240? That's the funniest nickname I've seen in years. And none of them noticed the 240 bit?! :D

[@AthanImmortal]

They did last week, they had a good laugh about it.

[@AmirAM06]

You could've said "This detects the airbnb hidden cameras" 1:55:23

[@CarlizWang]

B580 costs more than 4060 8G here in Sweden😪

[@sjargo11]

Even the LE b580 card from komplett? Because that one is 100-150kr cheaper than all the 4060s I can find (DK)😊

[@tsu177]

here in uk they are the same price and 4060ti is £30 more so i think most people will choose nvidia

[@devnol]

I've been waiting for the ram and cpu tray 3d models for YEARS, please do share.

[@aerpods]

Like this comment if Linus should make a Puffery Jacket/Vest

[@joaoie]

36:30 for most practical uses I think an LTT cable tie around the existing MCM would already work well

[@DavidLukner-fx1im]

please consider using more dynamic range compression. I don’t listen to podcasts on a home theater system and extremely loud laughter and shouting is very disorienting. This is genuinely the only podcast I ever have this issue with

[@claytonbyrd6134]

Nah.

[@aaronlandry3947]

It doesn't matter if the recall feature has encryption and some sort of AI detection to hide sensitive information... If I'm working for a company then all the information on the screen is sensitive whether the AI recognizes it as such or not. Just because it's not personally identifying information like a credit card or social security doesn't matter.

[@imaginesagi]

The problem with the Airbnb title was that you didn’t really look for hidden cameras. It was the epitome of clickbait.

[@mikearisbrocken8507]

No, saying he found cameras would be clickbait. He did look for it, didn't find any. You are just mad because he didn't find cameras.

[@jakobschneider558]

@@mikearisbrocken8507 Timestamp? Becuase he literally didn't.

[@bakedbeanfanclub]

They said in the video that scanning a room takes hours. Do you think that - even if they found ones, that the video would have been 6 hours of effort better?

[@christianstonecipher1547]

The issue I have with any interest towards an Intel GPU (other than the fact that my GPU is not nearly old enough to need replaced) is that I am still feeling burned by intel for the 13th and 14th gen CPU instability issues. It's hard for me to be excited when I am wary of getting any more Intel after it turned out that my high end CPU had a major instability and degradation issue.