We can FINALLY Test This!! - Capture card latency

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@LifeofBoris
@LifeofBoris 3 жыл бұрын
but is it a mayonnaise cooled PC? IS IT?
@sneedsfeed757
@sneedsfeed757 3 жыл бұрын
Bro it's Boris
@hollowthegodd4227
@hollowthegodd4227 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@sneedsfeed757
@sneedsfeed757 3 жыл бұрын
Did not watch the new video but nice to see you here 😂😂
@SkyHighPlayer
@SkyHighPlayer 3 жыл бұрын
IISS BORIS
@adiqn4972
@adiqn4972 3 жыл бұрын
Oof
@RTINGSdotcom
@RTINGSdotcom 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the shout out!
@manjyot818
@manjyot818 3 жыл бұрын
You guys are the tits tho, please keep up the amazing work. I recommend yall to all my friends for TVs and lately for headphones too. ❤️
@MoreKnowledgeShorts
@MoreKnowledgeShorts 3 жыл бұрын
@@manjyot818 typo? Are the what now
@sc4rlet113
@sc4rlet113 3 жыл бұрын
@@manjyot818 ayo?
@ListenToMyBeats
@ListenToMyBeats 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine not commenting: ""“Minecraft" "ASMR" "pewdiepie" "music" "Fortnite" "markiplier" “KZbin is a perfectly balanced game with no exploits.” "Runescape" "World of Warcraft" "Shadowlands" "Dream" "MrBeast" "Warzone" "FaZe Clan" "100 Thieves" "Call of Duty" "Pokemon" "Pokemon cards" "card unboxing" "Charizard" "they don't want you to know" "Flat earth" "round earth" "triangle earth" "the earth is not earth" "what even is earth if not earth omg government is lying to you" "Minecraft" "ASMR" "pewdiepie" "music" "Fortnite" "markiplier" “KZbin is a perfectly balanced game with no exploits.” "Runescape" "World of Warcraft" "music" "dj" "love" "rap" rapmusic" "rapper"
@revisedx2221
@revisedx2221 3 жыл бұрын
@ZeroV lol I saw u on anime king
@nathanielhill8156
@nathanielhill8156 3 жыл бұрын
I have heard that the issue with putting HDMI devices in series might also have to do with issues with the return channel that would tell the computer what resolutions it is capable of displaying and other complications from the hot plug capabilities
@jenton93
@jenton93 3 жыл бұрын
This is called edid. So between devices you need a edid hand shake so the more devices in line you put the more hops that needs to take. Some will emulate, some with have there own, and some will pass through.
@KogaHarine
@KogaHarine 3 жыл бұрын
@@jenton93 And depending on your setup some are built to split so one output shows 1080p at 60fps while the other output uses 4k at 60fps allowing you to scale to match a device. Had to do that to record through an elgato hd60s at different resolutions while outputting only at max resolution (mainly for 4K) to the tv through the splitter. Finding one that actually works for a good recording setup with varying resolutions being used is a huge pain in the ass. The one I found had to basically have a dip switch so you can adjust either side as needed.
@cameronkalt1431
@cameronkalt1431 3 жыл бұрын
When you find a kid who goes to your school in the comment section...
@TheGaggenau
@TheGaggenau 3 жыл бұрын
there is no return channel it's called edid.
@psynapse261
@psynapse261 3 жыл бұрын
Hey I'm pretty late so thought a new comment would go unnoticed. In chemical reactions, a series of reactions is only as fast as it's slowest step; as no matter how fast the other reactions complete, until the slowest one does, the reaction dosen't complete. I think (guessing) that a similar principle could apply when we daisy chained these devices, and the total input lag was the same as the slowest of the bunch.
@Sayeed247
@Sayeed247 3 жыл бұрын
06:18 "when the product page doesn't claim any kind of gaming or latancy optimization at all" SONY: *write that down.....WRITE THAT DOWN!!!*
@GaiusReji
@GaiusReji 3 жыл бұрын
4:29 Spawn and hands crossing in sync is so damn satisfying xD
@mwhenry00
@mwhenry00 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see this with hdmi extensions, like ethernet ones, or wireless.
@Googaliemoogalie
@Googaliemoogalie 3 жыл бұрын
Wireless for suuureee would add some time.
@TheGaggenau
@TheGaggenau 3 жыл бұрын
it depends on what technology of ethernet ones you use. HDbase-t ads a little bit of latency. the cheap copies of hdbase-t ads a lot of latency. expensive av over IP very little latency cheap hd264 compression or similar ads a lot of latency.
@TheGaggenau
@TheGaggenau 3 жыл бұрын
@@emeraldbonsai no as a AV system engineer i use hdmi extension over ip all the time. It’s very good when a client already has the Ethernet infrastructure built and it’s not up to spec for 4K over hdbaseT. But essentially it’s a encoder and a decoder but it’s common to use it for extensions and/or as a matrix. The expensive systems use a low latency jpg2000 compression and some of the are used in esports
@galacticboy2009
@galacticboy2009 3 жыл бұрын
I really.. really hope nobody out there is playing any sort of game over a wireless HDMI extender.
@galacticboy2009
@galacticboy2009 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheGaggenau Yes if it's re-encoding anything it's going to add a lot. Lossless ones need more bandwidth, but other than that it's faster, because they aren't changing anything.
@kusucks991
@kusucks991 3 жыл бұрын
"Director - Who Dat?" Oooooooooohhhhh we have a new employee on probation!
@onepiecepedia
@onepiecepedia 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah most probably. That or they're just trolling around :P
@jthoward
@jthoward 3 жыл бұрын
Writer is also who dat but Linus said that he is the one to put in “DHCP” instead of “HDCP”
@snjert8406
@snjert8406 3 жыл бұрын
I really hope they're talking about Madison
@Kitsunemimi_
@Kitsunemimi_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@snjert8406 Madison wont be a writer or director tho
@mrclown7469
@mrclown7469 3 жыл бұрын
@@snjert8406 The script didn't use the word "poggers" even once, so Madison definitely didn't write this.
@meowgoesthedog_
@meowgoesthedog_ 3 жыл бұрын
Last time I was this early Mayonnaise thermal paste wasn't a thing
@erkinyldrm1160
@erkinyldrm1160 3 жыл бұрын
Life of boris!!!
@thedislikebutton101
@thedislikebutton101 3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully it still isn’t
@Ender436
@Ender436 3 жыл бұрын
Lol I get the reference
@mayukhbejoy8571
@mayukhbejoy8571 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@andrewlesniak8018
@andrewlesniak8018 3 жыл бұрын
@@thedislikebutton101 TOO BAD, Boris did it earlier today.
@ecksdee7957
@ecksdee7957 3 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a windows vs linux vs macOS latency test!
3 жыл бұрын
Untested guess, but based on the knowledge of each of their kernels and how they behave for other real-time stuff like delays in audio processing, it would probably be something like this: 1- macOS (best, lowest latency OS and one of the reasons so many music producers and DJs use it, maybe a tie with 2nd) 2- Linux with a real time kernel (maybe a tie with 1st) 3- Normal Linux (with a normal kernel) 4- Windows (not a real-time OS at all, not by default at least) Just a guess tho, would love to see a video on it too
@Stego27
@Stego27 3 жыл бұрын
@ for gaming I guess it would also depend on directx compatibility layers etc
@bernardo5758
@bernardo5758 3 жыл бұрын
@ Real time OSs are not at all comparable to the others, they are called like that because some processes can just stop everything when an interrupt signal acts for example, making the latency on the range of microseconds, which is very important for robots, airplanes, satellites and thinks like that. Any kind of RTOS would trump macOS, Linux or Windows and programs written for one kind of OS are incompatible with the other without some heavy modification.
@randommer52
@randommer52 3 жыл бұрын
Really good idea, but the nvidia software they use must not work on Linux and MacOS, if I had to guess...
@MattVickers
@MattVickers 3 жыл бұрын
I expected the receiver to be highest. It probably depends on what image processing functions you enable and what chip it uses for that
@EposVox
@EposVox 3 жыл бұрын
I guess this is a better title than the Floatplane video, as you're half-testing added render latency (w/ the capture cards in a single PC configuration) and half-testing pass-through latency with the sound bar. Your existing Leo Bodnar tester would provide far more accurate results actually testing added input latency for passthrough devices like the sound bar anyway.
@micahbermillo6601
@micahbermillo6601 3 жыл бұрын
hi
@ddxre
@ddxre 3 жыл бұрын
E
@Nitrez
@Nitrez 3 жыл бұрын
Hi! I’m a new KZbinr and was hoping I could have a little support! I started about 2 years ago and have already grown a successful amount! I do lots of cool vids and love and notice every single subscriber, thank you!
@CaveyMoth
@CaveyMoth 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the video would be about AVR receivers finally receiving full 48 Gbps HDMI 2.1 ports, lol.
@riba2233
@riba2233 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nitrez your videos are useless and cringe, and you know that. Please stop
@AlexM-wt1pu
@AlexM-wt1pu 3 жыл бұрын
Would've loved to see using a HDMI splitter into the devices. Maybe that would result in truly 0 latency?
@Topside08
@Topside08 3 жыл бұрын
electronically the capture cards with a pass through are basically the same thing as an HDMI splitter EDIT: *should be* the results with the 4k60 Pro suggest they can screw it up
@randomgeocacher
@randomgeocacher 3 жыл бұрын
Agree. Especially if it was a really simple splitter that just forwarded the HDMI essential signals (clock and the three image channels) without any complex processing, I would just assume a few get a few ns in additional delay from the RTL logic. All these devices adding many ms delay clearly are doing something weird, that’s not some simple electrical thing or a few internal cycles in RTL logic. So my somewhat educated guess is that the most basic splitter with fewest features is most likely have the least delay. Output_a = Input, Output_b = input just should not add weird measurable delays. Linus idea about it being related to devices doing HDCP processing might be correct. Could also be something like a device wanting to buffer entire frames and never transmit a broken frame, that would add ~ 1 frame delay in processing.
@AlexM-wt1pu
@AlexM-wt1pu 3 жыл бұрын
@@Topside08 Yep. In theory anything with a passthrough should be exactly as if it were just a passive (dunno if possible to passively split HDMI) splitter. Thats why I think it would have been great to see a super simple one without any processing added in, it would be the 'fastest' way of getting the signal into the devices.
@LRM12o8
@LRM12o8 3 жыл бұрын
@@Topside08 Maybe the internal capture card uses some system resources that cause the lag?
@danieljensen2626
@danieljensen2626 3 жыл бұрын
I think the problem is that HDMI involves two way communication. That's how your computer knows the resolution of whatever monitor you've plugged it into. HDMI doesn't support 3 way communication, so it just wouldn't work with a passive splitter. You need an active splitter that basically acts as a router to keep the communication coherent.
@wrichikbiswas
@wrichikbiswas 3 жыл бұрын
That moment when a "gaming" device that advertises zero latency performs worse than an AV receiver, which doesn't.
@SeizureBoy4
@SeizureBoy4 3 жыл бұрын
Leave it Linus to find the absolute limits of tech...and to drop everything.
@quuxjn2452
@quuxjn2452 3 жыл бұрын
KZbin be like: oh you don't need subtitles? We have activated them anyway. Oh now you need subtitles because you have no headphones but u want to know what they're talking about? Sadly we don't have them.
@hamizannaruto
@hamizannaruto 3 жыл бұрын
KZbin: Oh you like the custom subtitle by community. Well, we completely disable them now, so now you can't understand foreign languages youtuber.
@MrRobsn89
@MrRobsn89 3 жыл бұрын
KZbin sucks in the last weeks ..autoplay preview annoying.. way more aggressive ads
@bitelaserkhalif
@bitelaserkhalif 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrRobsn89 ublock origin: what's the ad?
@vali69
@vali69 3 жыл бұрын
Also youtube: "here's an ad to a random mobile game in taiwanese european guy(me)"
@ALMASHNI-MAN
@ALMASHNI-MAN 3 жыл бұрын
But there is subtitles
@PattycakesGaming
@PattycakesGaming 3 жыл бұрын
This is fascinating, I've been using the elgato 4k60pro mk.2 for capture for a long time now. I'd love to see a version of this testing where you compare the newer version of the capture card in both passthrough vs. duplicated monitor mode to see if there's a difference between them with latency!
@rahuldhakne8577
@rahuldhakne8577 3 жыл бұрын
"even if you cant feel the latency, your brain can" hmm
@biglineman34
@biglineman34 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a popular Plinkett quote: You might not've noticed, but your brain did.
@maxwag9263
@maxwag9263 3 жыл бұрын
Human brain small,return to monke Brain
@NithinJune
@NithinJune 3 жыл бұрын
I mean it's true like it feels slightly off
@lukephillips5618
@lukephillips5618 3 жыл бұрын
You can unconsciously perceive things.
@8-bitgiraffe917
@8-bitgiraffe917 3 жыл бұрын
If you wanna get the lowest latency you just remove you brain! No more latency.
@jbob_nice
@jbob_nice 3 жыл бұрын
"Oh nice he is dead look at that." - Linus when he did his first kill
@nioxic77
@nioxic77 3 жыл бұрын
I like how linus literally mentions his own typo in the script but the "writer" credit is "who dis?"
@keyboard_slap
@keyboard_slap 3 жыл бұрын
4:53 I wonder if consoles, which have leaner software stacks, would also have lower system latency. Interesting concept for a video.
@hundergrn
@hundergrn 3 жыл бұрын
*Looks at A/V Receiver used for testing* Hey... that looks familiar... *Looks down at 4 year old A/V receiver* Oh shi... you a good boy!
@TheJunky228
@TheJunky228 3 жыл бұрын
my av receiver is old enough to not have an hdmi connection at all, so I have to use a little box which splits out the audio so i can feed it to the receiver.
@marijntuinstra5310
@marijntuinstra5310 3 жыл бұрын
Sony for the win!!!
@RAM-cj1hr
@RAM-cj1hr 3 жыл бұрын
1:13 "You didn't notice it, but your brain did." - Mr. Plinkett
@occultsoundscapes
@occultsoundscapes 3 жыл бұрын
AHAHAHA SO FUNNY BRO
@ChrixOfficial
@ChrixOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
Original title: Is your setup laggier than it needs to be?
@STORMFIRE07
@STORMFIRE07 3 жыл бұрын
lol they changed it really quickly New Title: We can FINALLY Test This!!
@michamiek1367
@michamiek1367 3 жыл бұрын
@@STORMFIRE07 whats up with all the title changing?
@GoGeTars
@GoGeTars 3 жыл бұрын
@@michamiek1367 they need that algorithm burn lol
@STORMFIRE07
@STORMFIRE07 3 жыл бұрын
@@michamiek1367 They pretty much exploit the algorithm, there is an initial title, which is to send subscribers notifications, then a title which gets picked up by youtube and recommended to others, since pretty much the whole fate of a video is decided within the first hour or so, they more people click and watch the video in the first hour, the greater the chance of youtube recommending it to people later on, after the initial hype dies, they change the title again for a much more long term one, like the one which gives you a general idea of what might be in the video, so that the algorithm plays well with the new title in the long term, since youtube is an evergreen platform
@Orinslayer
@Orinslayer 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, thats a much better title. I didn't even know what this was about.
@ronnzi
@ronnzi 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Something else that’s important that you all didn’t cover is how linking through devices affects display/audio settings. I my experience, HDR, VRR on displays that support it, color bit depth, audio sampling settings, etc., can all be impacted in weird ways. It would have been interesting to note some of effects.
@latinochico
@latinochico 3 жыл бұрын
The problem is that Linus ain't a Television professional calibrator.
@halonanttis
@halonanttis 3 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU !!!!!!! I almost sold my sony STR-DN1080 ... because of some feeling of something added lag and suspicion but happy to see this and very proud to own one, and have been expieriencin good quality passtrough with HDR and 4k upscale.. soo yeah ! GOOD JOB. But I would have liked more information about especially from this sony device , because it has allkinds of awesome other applications wifi, spotify, bluetooth two zone music ETC. ..........and it is actually really affordable and goooooooood sounding device that can be applied to multiple things and is very userfriendly.
@LRM12o8
@LRM12o8 3 жыл бұрын
1:27 when your TV is so big you can use it as a background instead of a green screen, lol! (they'd just needed to frame the shot better)
@aaiieenn
@aaiieenn 3 жыл бұрын
"You didn't notice higher refresh rates, but your brain did" -Mike Stoklasa/Plinkett (probably, maybe)
@viliamklein
@viliamklein 3 жыл бұрын
Unexpected RLM!
@jeeee3f
@jeeee3f 3 жыл бұрын
Is Linus replacing Jay Bauman?
@noamtsur
@noamtsur 3 жыл бұрын
6:38 what's the deal with the bees?
@98jumpmen
@98jumpmen 3 жыл бұрын
Swear to god was wearing headphones and shat myself
@edwinkeen488
@edwinkeen488 3 жыл бұрын
Dynamic Host Confusion Protocol
@Minitomate
@Minitomate 3 жыл бұрын
This ultra-low lag input seems very useful for VR to just reduce headaches for more sensible people.
@bronxbrown1986
@bronxbrown1986 3 жыл бұрын
Shout out to Vizio leaving Canada, then having a Canadian KZbinr review their product.
@ghomerhust
@ghomerhust 3 жыл бұрын
because LoGiC haha
@companyoflosers
@companyoflosers 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but the audience is still most of the world. As far as marketing goes, it still makes business sense because this video reached billions outside of Canada.
@companyoflosers
@companyoflosers 3 жыл бұрын
@lucky m3x I'm sure there's a fair number in Europe as well, but you probably wouldn't be wrong the majority may be in the US. still doesn't disprove my point. their goal is to market to potential buyers. even utilizing a Canadian youtuber accomplishes that when its someone with a large audience.
@CRCinAU
@CRCinAU 3 жыл бұрын
They don't do anything in the asia pacific either....
@johnrolfe7436
@johnrolfe7436 3 жыл бұрын
6:35 I want a compilation of all kinds of editor jokes/spoofs like this
@bassams99
@bassams99 3 жыл бұрын
Agree
@eseseis7251
@eseseis7251 3 жыл бұрын
why not more ppl saw that
@ahmedshaltout4992
@ahmedshaltout4992 3 жыл бұрын
was that an edit. i thought they were real moths
@zelder12
@zelder12 3 жыл бұрын
Can james say "a short cut to the chum bucket" the next video he is on
@parvagopani1947
@parvagopani1947 3 жыл бұрын
This is how you do sponsored content! Keep up the good work guys👍
@evrythingelswastaken
@evrythingelswastaken 3 жыл бұрын
At least there were no claims of negative latency. I suspect they can claim "no latency" as long as it's under some threshold, just like "0g sugar" only means less than 0.5g
@klaxoncow
@klaxoncow 3 жыл бұрын
"Nothing was zero latency" Well, of course. The speed of light is a finite number.
@wilson.5420
@wilson.5420 3 жыл бұрын
Or is it? Veritasium did a video about why the speed of light actually can't be measured! kzbin.info/www/bejne/poXRZ3itncdlbc0
@moneer7139
@moneer7139 3 жыл бұрын
@@wilson.5420 well actually even our eyes have latency, from the light to the eyes and from the eyes to the brain aka occipital lobe
@blackprofilepicture3112
@blackprofilepicture3112 3 жыл бұрын
@@wilson.5420 did you even watch veritasium's video all the way through? he was only talking about the one way speed of light, and to our current knowledge, differing 1 way speeds of light are indistinguishable from the 1 way speed of light being equal to the round trip speed of light.
@leozardo7186
@leozardo7186 3 жыл бұрын
HDMI doesn't use light...it's not fiber optic.
@blackprofilepicture3112
@blackprofilepicture3112 3 жыл бұрын
@@leozardo7186 so what? still doesn't change the fact that nothing can travel faster than light, at least based on our current understanding of science. and electrical signals certainly travel slower than light.
@Kuzenlarinbiri
@Kuzenlarinbiri 3 жыл бұрын
6:36 can someone explain what happened here
@empoleon621
@empoleon621 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@malbliss4491
@malbliss4491 3 жыл бұрын
Busy bees?
@malbliss4491
@malbliss4491 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously what is going on
@Maleko48
@Maleko48 3 жыл бұрын
I literally had to rewind and watch it again after saying "what the fuck?" lol
@aritrodhar
@aritrodhar 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah!! What was that?🤣🤣
@JAK_EDITS.
@JAK_EDITS. 3 жыл бұрын
3:55 head editor: “fuck it dude”
@thomasphillips885
@thomasphillips885 3 жыл бұрын
The audio glitch?
@JAK_EDITS.
@JAK_EDITS. 3 жыл бұрын
@@thomasphillips885 yes lol
@TommyFenstermacher5150
@TommyFenstermacher5150 3 жыл бұрын
8:00 I thought it was abbreviated S.H.I.T.
@rael_gc
@rael_gc 3 жыл бұрын
While playing on Retropie, remember to activate Run Ahead to remove the "thinking" frame delay from old games. This will improve the latency a lot.
@ricktim8402
@ricktim8402 3 жыл бұрын
You need to do more latency test like this since they're so rare to find
@JohnSmith_1123
@JohnSmith_1123 3 жыл бұрын
That was 2019?? Where has all the time gone
@USEC3
@USEC3 3 жыл бұрын
Corona
@oconano
@oconano 3 жыл бұрын
All of the time went into 2020.
@apollo4961
@apollo4961 3 жыл бұрын
the audio was struggling with this video
@TSUTCLIFF
@TSUTCLIFF 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, the “handshake” issue you’re talking about is one that I’ve come across quite a few times, it’s an EDID mis-match, you can get a universal EDID “translator” for a fair price, it’s not a common issue, but it comes up a surprising amount in my line of work, it’s basically the way that a display device tells your source what its capabilities are, and when you pass through multiple devices it can get “left behind” of if they don’t all have one common way of communication then the entire system collapses, that’s why it can work fine with each item individually, but not all at once. This is a very simple explanation, but let’s say your screen and PC can both communicate using EDID protocols 1-10, and one of your pass through devices can communicate in protocols 1-5, and the other can communicate in protocols 6-10, both devices will work individually as there’s a common protocol from display to source, but if you try to use both the display communicates (via the first device) in a protocol that the second device can’t understand, so the EDID never makes it to the source and the source doesn’t know how to transmit, this normally results in a loss of signal, but sometimes can result in the communication being limited to early display types so your source will think it’s limited to old aspect ratios, or the wrong refresh rate, or lower resolutions.
@keezy069
@keezy069 3 жыл бұрын
man linus i love these kind of videos, please never stop. i always watch them before going to bed
@hellrzr45
@hellrzr45 3 жыл бұрын
I have 2 Vizio TVs one 65 and one 50, I love these TV just because of all the Dolby stuff, Dolby Vizio, HDR, Dolby ATMOS DTS-X, not many TV have these features and the colors everything looks beast, paired with my Vizio 5.1.2 Sound bar with Dolby ATMOS, it sounds great I miss the different audio channels when I am on PC or in car and stuff, listening to Audio the right way matter s a lot, which led me to Buy a new DAC/Amp for my PC with Dolby 7.1 surround sound oh yeahhh.
@nazmulfahad3044
@nazmulfahad3044 3 жыл бұрын
3:06 and I thought that was a wallpaper cleverly put for the video.
@orangy57
@orangy57 3 жыл бұрын
The """""zero passthrough"""" USB Elgato cards have to add input lag, they mildly mess with colors with the passthrough they have to be doing some weird processing in the background
@TheGaggenau
@TheGaggenau 3 жыл бұрын
of course, they do, they can't work if it's a true passthrough.
@Colty0
@Colty0 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheGaggenau I used to use an HDMI splitter to record my PS4 back when it didn't have an option to turn off HDCP early on. (It was a weird thing for sure). I wish they would have tested an HDMI splitter/switching device because that might be a good option for people who want to record and have a low latency option. I also have the HD60 pro (pcie 1080/60fps) model and I wish they could have tested that. Makes me wonder if the pcie capture card results are because it was 4k/60 model or just because of the interface difference.
@simontuchman5181
@simontuchman5181 3 жыл бұрын
@@Colty0 I was thinking the same thing. If they didn't want input lag, why not use an HDMI splitter? I could probably design a circuit that has lower latency than theirs!
@BrendonGreenNZL
@BrendonGreenNZL 3 жыл бұрын
@@Colty0 as a general rule, HDMI switches and splitters should not introduce more than a few milliseconds of lag, since they are pretty much doing nothing more than regenerating (boosting) the HDMI signal.
@TatsuZZmage
@TatsuZZmage 3 жыл бұрын
@@BrendonGreenNZL nope new signal cause of the way HDMI hand shakes work a packet to each device is different once it leaves the splitter and wouldn't work on the other, a least in spec from what I understand.
@marksadhra9399
@marksadhra9399 3 жыл бұрын
Sponsored by a TV brand no longer available in Canada. Nice!
@DtEarth1
@DtEarth1 3 жыл бұрын
I was excited about this video. Yes you did show info about latency but I really was hoping you'd show how you hooked (wired) each device.
@wizardwithsmg
@wizardwithsmg 3 жыл бұрын
I love my STR-DN1080, glad to know it doesn't hit you with any latency. Great 5.2.2 atmos receiver.
@SongLyricsHD
@SongLyricsHD 3 жыл бұрын
I’m really surprised the AV receiver was the lowest latency device. I thought for sure that would have the most latency
@Abbysion
@Abbysion 3 жыл бұрын
In all fairness, it's only THAT AV receiver, other models/brands might actually add more latency. This was a limited test and should definitely not be used to generalize over everything that exists or what we might have at home.
@SongLyricsHD
@SongLyricsHD 3 жыл бұрын
@@Abbysion Notice how I didn't say ALL AV receivers, and never generalized anything. It just surprised me that it had the lowest latency.
@m3rcurialis
@m3rcurialis 3 жыл бұрын
TVs and monitors should have HDMI outputs, like some older TVs had RCA outs.
@natsukage3960
@natsukage3960 3 жыл бұрын
All the companies do everything to reduce costs of each TVs. They're not even putting headphone/RCA outs anymore (too much trouble adding a D/A converter). Not to mention HDMI out... Lots of professional/business grade TVs have output/linking feature because they know the customers dont care about price.
@techyunited9086
@techyunited9086 3 жыл бұрын
really interesting to see the amount of research goes behind a short video like this, happy to be a subscriber! Thank you LTT.
@kidShibuya
@kidShibuya 3 жыл бұрын
The exact reciver I have. But I have always gone console/pc to TV, eARC to AV Receiver. Best setup IMO.
@stormbringer228_
@stormbringer228_ 3 жыл бұрын
6:36 that legitimately creeped me out
@Green-dj7mq
@Green-dj7mq 3 жыл бұрын
i’m still trying to figure out wtf those were
@holidaymail
@holidaymail 3 жыл бұрын
I had to rewind and check it too lol
@narlotep9526
@narlotep9526 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! I was just wondering if i was the only one who saw them. Is Linus switching over to another profession?
@LGYT8
@LGYT8 3 жыл бұрын
The next step is to measure audio latency from the sound bar (just an idea) :)
@pauloedrozo1414
@pauloedrozo1414 3 жыл бұрын
"In this video, sponsored by vizio" damn linus I know you look like eminem but I didn't knew you can rap like him
@TheBsniz
@TheBsniz 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate Vizio for being an American company making TV's in such a heavily saturated market. So much so I've ignored my Vizio 32" from like 2014 making ocean noises for the first 20 seconds when you turn it on.
@Fee.1
@Fee.1 3 жыл бұрын
I like how you make ads seem like they are normal videos
@FelixEFX
@FelixEFX 3 жыл бұрын
Could you do somthing similar with usb hubs? I still don't know if a hub will hurt my input latency :D
@BrendonGreenNZL
@BrendonGreenNZL 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't worry about any latency introduced by your USB hub, unless it is also carrying your network and video signals. USB (and other networking devices) have latencies measured in microseconds.
@the9red9one
@the9red9one 3 жыл бұрын
“That’s above my pay grade” -is a multi-multi millionaire running a multi million dollar multimedia conglomerate with tons of sponsors and specialists
@yumri4
@yumri4 3 жыл бұрын
i wouldn't say that his employees are "specialists" in their fields. They also only have around 7 or 8 sponsors total at any point in the year. He should have said "not my job" as he is the CEO not the hardware guy which should know what does what and why.
@mikul2646
@mikul2646 3 жыл бұрын
6:37 Wha- Why the bees?
@Fr0st8
@Fr0st8 3 жыл бұрын
I bought this TV a month ago and it's a very strong recommend. Way better than the LG one I bought brand new in 2018
@_Spacecraft
@_Spacecraft 3 жыл бұрын
I just want to say the LMG editors are really fantastic.
@djsnowpdx
@djsnowpdx 3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes. High Definition Content Protection, or "S-H-I-T" for short.
@TheKamiBunny
@TheKamiBunny 3 жыл бұрын
Haha. Short
@taaaaaaay
@taaaaaaay 3 жыл бұрын
0:23 thought linus dropped the tv giving it a big ass crack
@jr4dh3y
@jr4dh3y 3 жыл бұрын
I thought it was cracked 😂😅
@abhinavjaishi
@abhinavjaishi 3 жыл бұрын
Day 14 of asking Learn Linux with Anthony Series 😅
@hexa3389
@hexa3389 3 жыл бұрын
Just watch a bash tutorial video lol.
@TAP7a
@TAP7a 3 жыл бұрын
Also asking for a Learn Linux with Anthony series Heck why not an entire dedicated channel at this point
@Founders4
@Founders4 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I think Anthony should join Linus on the WAN show. He'd be able to add a lot more from a technical view point than Luke.
@superfish7
@superfish7 3 жыл бұрын
I'd watch that even knowing alot about it already lol.
@basshead.
@basshead. 3 жыл бұрын
Linux is boring. Less than 1% of gamers are interested in Linux.
@ecromancer
@ecromancer 3 жыл бұрын
Like the video. Hate the TV. I had nothing but issues with Visio. I worked for att uverse and most complaints I had were from Visio TVs. My step father has one and every time you want to change to a different HDMI input, you have turn off the TV after you select the input, and turn it back on with the device you want to use to be on. This process took about 1 minute (because it takes a while for the TV to shut off and turn back on) instead of a couple of seconds like most TV's. Cheap LG, Samsung, Sony, Sharp, and TLC (I used all these brands) never had the issues like I experienced with multiple Visio TV's.
@jonlaw16
@jonlaw16 3 жыл бұрын
It would be neat to test a variety of home theater receivers and see if there are any particularly good or bad models. I am honestly surprised that the Sony did so well considering Sony receivers are on the low end of AVRs.
@aquamane_
@aquamane_ 3 жыл бұрын
6:36 what is up with the bees? 😂😂
@jbsatx
@jbsatx 3 жыл бұрын
I'm here in the comments to figure out what the hell that was all about! LOL!
@INTERESTINGTHINGSJCB
@INTERESTINGTHINGSJCB 3 жыл бұрын
I need this in my life!😯
@GGOWO
@GGOWO 3 жыл бұрын
Me to
@Bharat_Shukla
@Bharat_Shukla 3 жыл бұрын
so that i can sell it and buy a moderate pc kit
@danielport4771
@danielport4771 3 жыл бұрын
For the competitive gamers using a soundbar: Oh wait no one is here
@StrangelyIronic
@StrangelyIronic 3 жыл бұрын
So it's impossible to use a PC or console for anything but play a competitive game? I thought they could, well, play media and stuff too when not playing games.
@somethingdifferent9024
@somethingdifferent9024 3 жыл бұрын
@@StrangelyIronic Or you could have your competitive games, but also enjoy some God of War, Control or something along those lines.
@danielport4771
@danielport4771 3 жыл бұрын
@@StrangelyIronic they were talking about competitive gaming with the soundbar, hence the joke... also it was a joke :)
@matthewmaylin2268
@matthewmaylin2268 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you LTT for changing the aspect ratio by a couple of pixels so that I don’t notice the notch on my iPhone 12 mini. Such a minor change but it makes viewing the videos so much nicer.
@SilentFL
@SilentFL 3 жыл бұрын
Could you please test KVM switches as well? Considering getting one from Amazon so that I can use my gaming setup while WFH (with a work latptop), but I'm concerned about the impact it will have when I'm gaming. This is probably more relevant now days with COVID and WFH than ever before.
@VisualCody
@VisualCody 3 жыл бұрын
Vizio: How big of a TV do you want us to send you? LInus: Yes
@albxdo9568
@albxdo9568 3 жыл бұрын
So we’re just gonna ignore the “hot thighs” caption?
@randxalthor
@randxalthor 3 жыл бұрын
It's just the intro tag for one of the laptop videos. Not sure which one at a glance, but it may have been the recent one where they added thermal pads to the MacBook air and the bottom heated up a bunch.
@natsukage3960
@natsukage3960 3 жыл бұрын
@@randxalthor Yeah, it was the MacBook Air mod video.
@Tio-Nino
@Tio-Nino 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, because we don’t follow memes.
@trayvonjarrett
@trayvonjarrett 3 жыл бұрын
i never knew there was a script now i can’t stop looking at his eyes lol
@Kamel419
@Kamel419 3 жыл бұрын
yesssss finally some measurement in the smoke and mirrors category! i know this is a super weird request, but would you consider doing a similar test for broadcast video switchers? they also don't measure or advertise these things
@Lang4d
@Lang4d 3 жыл бұрын
Does the sound bar connect to the speakers via Bluetooth? I wonder if it adds artificial delay to the hdmi stream to sync the video and audio together?
@shashanka8344
@shashanka8344 3 жыл бұрын
6:38 what are those
@uk4490
@uk4490 3 жыл бұрын
Effects
@KheldarLars
@KheldarLars 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I thought I'd had a stroke. Why, what, why????
@Thomas-gi9vy
@Thomas-gi9vy 3 жыл бұрын
linus: "GOTTA FIGURE OUT LATENCY" me: I SPY THE MINECRAFT LAUNCHER
@jizzlecizzle1388
@jizzlecizzle1388 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that the analog telephone never was tested makes me mad.
@meteorafallen
@meteorafallen 3 жыл бұрын
I can see that the Northern Lights desk mat has been tested to withstand a television sitting on it. Will be very handy for when they come back in stock.
@MrRom92DAW
@MrRom92DAW 3 жыл бұрын
It would’ve been interesting to test out simple HDMI switches and splitters. Maybe if there’s a low (no?) latency splitter, the second output can go to any other necessary equipment, like a capture card or whatever
@txbased1659
@txbased1659 3 жыл бұрын
Virtual hugs to early squad
@nazmulfahad3044
@nazmulfahad3044 3 жыл бұрын
And thanks to you for giving me virtual Corona
@ProphetC2
@ProphetC2 3 жыл бұрын
Linus: "devices like this, this and this" Me: "devices like Doug [deMuro], Doug, and Doug"
@daniellabunski
@daniellabunski 3 жыл бұрын
this is the video i needed lol
@ScottShelton
@ScottShelton 3 жыл бұрын
At 4:35 the audio crackle from Linus' mic sounds like wireless interference. You might want to re coordinate the frequencies used for the wireless gear.
@lgazo519
@lgazo519 3 жыл бұрын
today is my birthday and thank you for making great videos even though I just started watching you guys. Thank you for giving me a great vision of future. Maybe one day I will be able to see it.
@NicolaiLaquaglia
@NicolaiLaquaglia 3 жыл бұрын
"Let's buy a Visio!" Said no one ever 🤣
@samarryll512
@samarryll512 3 жыл бұрын
Depends, if their oled released in Canada I would have
@ScottSchramm
@ScottSchramm 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah Microsoft Visio sucks. But Vizio on the other hand is decent.
@ericw870
@ericw870 3 жыл бұрын
6:37 is that 2 live bees flying in the background??
@Daniel_WR_Hart
@Daniel_WR_Hart 3 жыл бұрын
It looks like cgi but why would they put that in the video?
@ghousekhasim1762
@ghousekhasim1762 3 жыл бұрын
"Lester" from GTA V committed suicide after hearing his name to be misread as "LOSER"
@ryansrandomshop
@ryansrandomshop 3 жыл бұрын
Please do a follow-up with more tests with different recievers or sound bars
@bctechsupply7400
@bctechsupply7400 3 жыл бұрын
This video was a lot of fun to listen to. Thanks Linus.
@foreverstream
@foreverstream 3 жыл бұрын
I love when linus makes his sponsors sound good when they aint
@quinton1630
@quinton1630 3 жыл бұрын
“Sponsored by Vizio” Vizio TVs aren’t even sold in Canada anymore!
@evergreatest7644
@evergreatest7644 3 жыл бұрын
Linus: RTINGS My redditor brain: r/tings
@Giovanni-rh1pw
@Giovanni-rh1pw 3 жыл бұрын
k
@nickkaraoke2128
@nickkaraoke2128 3 жыл бұрын
That subreddit exists but looks dead
@AmauryJacquot
@AmauryJacquot 3 жыл бұрын
the final delay is the sum of all devices delay. hdcp doesn't add significant delay, as the key exchange is done on startup. it is a source of things not working properly though.
@TheGaggenau
@TheGaggenau 3 жыл бұрын
an HDCP problem is usually when you can see the image for a couple of seconds when connecting the cable and then it goes black or green/purple. not getting any picture at all or if it's flickering it's often an issue with signal strength or edid. lowering the resolution and you get a stable image indicates that.
@N7RiZe
@N7RiZe 3 жыл бұрын
I love how video titles explain nothing on what you're about to watch nowadays.
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