Does RAM Speed REALLY Matter?? (DDR5 Edition)

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@LinusTechTips
@LinusTechTips Жыл бұрын
Are you using DDR5 or DDR4? Heck, maybe you’re still using DDR3! Let us know below! Check out the parts on the rigs we used for texting: Intel Core i9 - 13900K Processor: geni.us/QEC6 AMD Ryzen 9 7950x Processor: geni.us/IQopks ASUS Z790 Hero Motherboard: geni.us/Wkx0 Gigabyte X670E Aorus Extreme Motherboard: geni.us/uUwno MSI Pro Z790-P WiFi DDR4 Motherboard: geni.us/zOPbBUq Nvidia GeForce RTX 4090 FE GPU: geni.us/4v1AZJ And check out some of the RAM we tested: G Skill Trident Z DDR4 3600 CL14: geni.us/3hU2Gaq G.Skill Trident Z5 5600 CL40: geni.us/41OzVMc G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO DDR5 6000 CL30: geni.us/4OZOQG G.Skill Trident Z5 DDR5 6800 CL34: geni.us/WIuJe G.Skill Trident Z5 DDR5 7200 CL34: geni.us/QrzKq Crucial DDR5 4800 CL40: geni.us/ZmTm Crucial DDR5 5200 CL42: geni.us/ywIZkl Purchases made through some store links may provide some compensation to Linus Media Group.
@joaopedrosa9060
@joaopedrosa9060 Жыл бұрын
ddr3 with an i5 4690t lol
@dannyplante666
@dannyplante666 Жыл бұрын
ddr3 with 4790k
@D-Man_Jam
@D-Man_Jam Жыл бұрын
Ballistix sport DDR4 2x8, Ryzen 5 1600. Paid $120, I be ballin all the way to the bank
@rusuhfe
@rusuhfe Жыл бұрын
ddr3 with and phenom ii 1045t
@xavierjiang7112
@xavierjiang7112 Жыл бұрын
My laptop runs 2x 8GB Samsung DDR4 3200s, however the CPU (Pentium 6405U) only support 2666. Great! ___ I recently get the computer in our lab working. DDR3 12800 (1666MHz) 4GB x 2. Mixed manufacturer lol. i5 4th gen.
@romangervaise35
@romangervaise35 Жыл бұрын
The fact that a company like Intel are pushing the frequencies just for the Big Numbers without working on better timings gives me that "V8 engine with a bicycle transmission" vibe.
@V.D.22
@V.D.22 Жыл бұрын
they know big numbers sell better.
@Para-Phrase
@Para-Phrase Жыл бұрын
I remember back in the day advertisement going: "3.000 MEGAHERTZ !!!! 💪 But its a Pentium 4 and you could just buy an Athlon x64 🤷‍♂
@Felale
@Felale Жыл бұрын
Wrong. Higher frequencies make a measurable difference when overclocking and tuning.
@romangervaise35
@romangervaise35 Жыл бұрын
@@Felale So has an engine instead of your legs
@andydbedford
@andydbedford Жыл бұрын
They did the same with there cpu's for years whilst almost ignoring ipc. And that is exactly how AMD caught up and over took them and made intel wake up.
@gershon9600
@gershon9600 5 ай бұрын
revisit needed?
@Reddemon815
@Reddemon815 Жыл бұрын
If you're watching this in Q3 2023: -DDR4 prices are about 30% of what's shown at 2:02 -DDR5 7800mhz at 5:12 is ~230 usd vs 370 usd (~60%)
@alwaleedalbahri4354
@alwaleedalbahri4354 3 ай бұрын
What do you recommend us NOW
@datnguyen07
@datnguyen07 2 ай бұрын
DDR4 still so good with the price now
@theendurance
@theendurance Ай бұрын
@@alwaleedalbahri4354 ddr5 7200 cl34 is perfect
@MozzaBurger88
@MozzaBurger88 Ай бұрын
1:19 that didn't age too well XD
@davidg5898
@davidg5898 Жыл бұрын
I initially had a CL30 5600 kit in my new 13700k build, but the prices dropped a lot while I was still within the return window so I swapped the RAM for a CL32 6000 kit. There was a tiny performance increase (calculated latency is almost the same) but a dramatic consistency improvement -- my tests went from 4% variance between results to 1%. I haven't toyed around with overclocking yet, but will at some point.
@tictechto
@tictechto Жыл бұрын
be warned tho, ram overclocking can tax your sanity
@Madi_Ernar
@Madi_Ernar Жыл бұрын
@@tictechto especially overclocking DDR5
@tictechto
@tictechto Жыл бұрын
@@Madi_Ernar exactly, lol.
@mikeramos91
@mikeramos91 Жыл бұрын
so would u say bandwidth is more noticeable than latency?
@davidg5898
@davidg5898 Жыл бұрын
@@mikeramos91 The improvement I'm seeing might be due to the bandwidth, might be due to the timing differences, or might be purely lucking out in the silicon lottery. With a sample size of just 1, I cannot say.
@Savitarax
@Savitarax Жыл бұрын
What’s also interesting is just the scaling in general being so small on Intel for raw frequency. I mean it’s almost 3000 MHz higher in some of these benchmarks. That’s almost double and it barely breaks 1-5% total. Where as on amd we only saw 4800-6400 which is 2000 MHz and saw 10%+. It’s weird things like that where you often wonder why it would be such a stark drastic change.
@xTurtleOW
@xTurtleOW Жыл бұрын
intel don't really care for as much ram as amd, 4000mhz cl15 in gear 1 is beating everything below 7800mhz in gaming and even higher if you get lucky bin and able to do even higher mhz on gear 1
@RycoonGalloy
@RycoonGalloy Жыл бұрын
since ryzen released it's been known that AMD chips need faster ram speed, but no clue if that means that they are being held back by lower speeds, or they unlock higher speeds by using faster ram. One means Intel chips are more "efficient" at using the lower ram speeds, and the later means that Intel chips aren't optimized for faster speeds
@dex6316
@dex6316 Жыл бұрын
Intel is literally just the difference from faster ram. Back in the DDR4 days, AMD’s infinity fabric would be tied to the speed of the ram. That’s why higher ram speed outright overclocks the CPU. It is likely that this continues to be the case with DDR5, although I am not sure. You can also see the 5800X3D not caring about higher ram speeds because the additional cache reduces the need to care about latency and bandwidth from the ram.
@igelbofh
@igelbofh Жыл бұрын
It absolutely makes sense of you know how ram works. The chip takes X amount of NS to do something. The module manufacturer will choose speed at which the chip can run, and calculate the number of cycles the operation will take at that speed, so it covers the same amount of time in NS. For example an operation taking 13.3 ns takes 24 cycles at 3600MT and 48 cycles at 7200 MT, and the performance will be more of less identical.
@CyberneticArgumentCreator
@CyberneticArgumentCreator Жыл бұрын
@@dex6316 This is one of the wrongest comments I've ever seen on KZbin from start to finish.
@vagueadvice7710
@vagueadvice7710 Жыл бұрын
0:30 that has to be a war crime
@ThePerjhi
@ThePerjhi Ай бұрын
i felt a lot of pain inside after seeing that
@thestrykernet
@thestrykernet Жыл бұрын
Subtimings, at least on Intel, make a much bigger difference than they did with DDR4 so this might be something worth investigating. Glad to see a succinct, useful video like this come up.
@hector6264
@hector6264 Жыл бұрын
With ddr4 they already were the most important timings, now with ddr5 the primaries are literally just for show.
@GenosseRot
@GenosseRot Жыл бұрын
That is the reason why you should use the XMP2 profile instead of the XMP1 profile. To many search results are still saying that XMP1 and XMP2 are the same.
@reptilespantoso
@reptilespantoso Жыл бұрын
Correct, and also on AMD Ryzen. Much more than CAS.
@ChiEKKUsama
@ChiEKKUsama Жыл бұрын
Would be interested to see how memory speeds help on mid and low end machines; most people don't have a 3090.
@TorQueMoD
@TorQueMoD Жыл бұрын
I don't even know why they measured FPS gains in this video. Ram will barely affect your FPS. It's really intended to help with loading times, so it's not likely to make any significant difference on low end or mid tier machines either.
@williameldridge9382
@williameldridge9382 9 ай бұрын
​@@TorQueMoDwell that's just demonstrably false. Faster RAM provides the data to the GPU faster, which makes you get more frames. Granted, at a certain point there is a dramatic drop off in terms of gains, once you reach the max what a GPU can handle. However, as more and more games adopt direct storage, we'll see that be less and less of an issue. Direct storage bypasses the RAM altogether.
@Arganoid
@Arganoid Жыл бұрын
Something I wasn't aware of before buying a new Ryzen 7000 system: it is apparently normal to have a 40 second delay when turning on the machine, and this is to do with DDR5 memory training. That's before POST with no video signal.
@madsantos
@madsantos Жыл бұрын
yep, you can try to disable memory training with "memory context restore".
@sic22l
@sic22l Жыл бұрын
The fact that you managed 6400 sticks to run on AMD means you have a golden chip, AMD recmommends to stay at 6000 for optimal performance (Infinity Fabric) and sometimes stabilizing even 6133 or 6200 can be a challenge.
@flintfrommother3gaming
@flintfrommother3gaming Жыл бұрын
fr
@perceptivity_
@perceptivity_ Жыл бұрын
Idk I don't think it is that rare, I myself I'm running 6400CL32 with my 7700X at 5.3ghz and it runs like a charm, my ram is not even expo btw and was meant for Intel CPUs
@solomonshv
@solomonshv Жыл бұрын
they didn't actually run at 6400. in the video they said it could not do some of the tasks and crashed.
@hector6264
@hector6264 Жыл бұрын
@@perceptivity_ have you tried any real stability tests? tm5, ycruncher, linpack?
@perceptivity_
@perceptivity_ Жыл бұрын
@@hector6264 none of these, still haven't run into any issue with my ram so far
@Muninnnr
@Muninnnr Жыл бұрын
I managed to snag some 32GB DDR5 5200MHz RAM for a grand total of ~$130 during last years Black Friday, when I was looking into parts for my new AM5 build. This was a serious upgrade from my previous 16GB DDR3 3200 MHz. It's kind of hard for me to compare what impact it has had since I did a full platform upgrade, but having an all-around powerful build feels a lot more stable. And I likely won't have to upgrade my RAM for a very long time.
@Nibbist21
@Nibbist21 Жыл бұрын
Peasants and their ddr3 16gb, i use ddr2 8gb
@Targonis1
@Targonis1 Жыл бұрын
DDR5-5200 is on par with DDR4-2400 memory, it's not quite at the official JDEC base speed, but close to it. DDR5-6000 would provide a significant performance upgrade.
@1337cookie
@1337cookie Жыл бұрын
Would be interested to see the lowest worst frames like 0.1%. Reducing stutters, latency and smoothness is more important to me than FPS.
@Austrium1483
@Austrium1483 Жыл бұрын
Same
@halomika4973
@halomika4973 Жыл бұрын
I fully agree! Especially when a person basically just doesn't really notice the improvement from 120 to 240fps, the stuttering, jittering and latency are really important for immersion
@danieltiger8789
@danieltiger8789 Жыл бұрын
@@halomika4973 what people can easily tell the difference between 120-240
@halomika4973
@halomika4973 Жыл бұрын
@@danieltiger8789 Provide good evidence that supports your statement, and I'll believe you, friend. Have a nice day.
@danieltiger8789
@danieltiger8789 Жыл бұрын
@@halomika4973 you probably used to say the eye cant see past 30fps because some scientist said so lol
@jasonwilliams6773
@jasonwilliams6773 Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate this video more than most, unfortunately I'm desperately hoping you update or re-upload a similar test for the 7950x3d, that massive cache size might be even more affected by ram speed
@sephondranzer
@sephondranzer Жыл бұрын
It most likely would be less affected, similarly to how the 5800X3D saw no gains where the 5900X & 5950X did see gains from 3200mhz vs 3600mhz
@SasquatchsCousin33
@SasquatchsCousin33 Жыл бұрын
The extra cache reduces's the CPU's reliance on RAM. I would guess it matters even less on those chips
@casedistorted
@casedistorted Жыл бұрын
@@SasquatchsCousin33 Guess I need to get me a 5800X3D to replace my 5800X
@densepixel
@densepixel Жыл бұрын
Faster ram speeds are less effective, based on the findings of the previous generation
@Krydolph
@Krydolph Жыл бұрын
@@casedistorted Doubt it would be worth it though. I upgraded from 3700X to 5800x3d - and I do see lows improved, but max fps I got like 2-3 in best case scenarios! I have a 3060TI, that might not be top of the range, but its not a slow card imo - but maybe it is still the bottleneck... I don't know, I must confess I had hoped for better results though.
@alexmorris5019
@alexmorris5019 Жыл бұрын
Could you chart this in 2 dimensions? Price on X axis, 1% lows vs avg could be represented using vertical bars, performance on Y axis. It would be interesting to see cost to performance ratio. Representing data as a big list of specs on the left is not too easy to digest - most people just care about price.
@seankkg
@seankkg Жыл бұрын
DDR5? Time flies, I'm still playing the original arcade version.
@Rem_NL
@Rem_NL Жыл бұрын
Damn I am still on an abacus with only 6 rows
@ReverseBacktwo
@ReverseBacktwo Жыл бұрын
I vaguely remember you mentioning factorio ran better with better memory, would that have been something valuable to test?
@asm_nop
@asm_nop Жыл бұрын
Factorio might benefit from AMD's new V-Cache chips.
@connhughes13
@connhughes13 Жыл бұрын
Love the research basis of some of your videos when needed. Looking forward to the future!!
@GregoryShtevensh
@GregoryShtevensh Жыл бұрын
Great video! I just wanted to chime in on the discussion about RAM speed and latency. It's important to note that RAM speed, measured in MHz, determines the number of transfers of data per second, while latency, measured in nanoseconds, determines the time it takes for the RAM to respond to a request for data. When building a computer, it's crucial to strike a balance between these two factors, as having too much of one and not enough of the other can lead to bottlenecks in performance. Thanks for enlightening us on this topic!
@kevinlow69420
@kevinlow69420 Жыл бұрын
Just bye biggest ram speed and lowest latency
@Helizore
@Helizore Жыл бұрын
Thank you LTT, for another banger 😎
@jigachaed
@jigachaed Жыл бұрын
stfu you havent even watched the video bitch.
@FlorimondH
@FlorimondH Жыл бұрын
Got the "G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo Series 32 GB (2x 16 GB) DDR5 5600 MHz CL28" last December for under 200€. I paired it with a Ryzen 9 7950X. Happy to see I made the right choice. Although it was a pain to have the kit recognized by the MSI motherboard, and I even had to update the BIOS to make it accept a second kit that I bought later to reach 64GB or RAM.
@Keptains
@Keptains Жыл бұрын
im not 100% sure how its with DDR5 or your Mainboard+7950X but be aware that it usually was better to have 2x 32GB modules than 4x 16GB modules. Yes, its a kind of more cheaper upgrade path if you REALLY(!!!) need this amount of RAM. Performance whise its better to stick with two sticks because Dual Channel performes better than quad channel mode. And in addition to that more cheap/mid-range Mainboards and CPUs dont always offer you the max speeds with 4x Sticks. For example: My younger brothers PC has a Ryzen 2700X with a x470 board(Msi Gaming Plus). The board specs say: DDR4 MEMORY: 1866/ 2133/ 2400/ 2667 Mhz by JEDEC, and 2667/ 2800/ 2933/ 3000/ 066/ 3200/ 3466 Mhz by A-XMP mode MEMORY CHANNEL: DUAL DIMM SLOTS: 4 MAX MEMORY (GB): 64 He has 4x 8GB 3200mhz sticks inside and judging by the mainboard specs XMP/EXPO mode should work perfectly fine for 3200mhz. But the reality is that it seems those specs only are valid for a dual-channel (2x Sticks) configuration. When trying to enable XMP/EXPO with 4x Sticks to 3200mhz the system is incredibly unstable and it basically doesnt makes any sense to run it in this mode, hence loosing performance which you paid for the RAM. Only 2933mhz speed worked stable for 4x Sticks.
@burntalive
@burntalive Жыл бұрын
I love the lab. Doing the tests we all need done! About to build a new system with the new ryzen series and now I know the sweet spot.
@greatwavefan397
@greatwavefan397 Жыл бұрын
I'm curious how RAM from every generation would perform with the same amount and true latency (CAS x 2000/Transfer speed). DDR5 vs DDR4 vs DDR3 vs DDR2, 8GB; same CPU speed and core/thread count
@parkour267
@parkour267 Жыл бұрын
Was using ddr3. Now building ddr5 :D
@yaron_izzikf
@yaron_izzikf Жыл бұрын
It's nice to see LTT finally coming back to actually providing tech tips and not just reviewing various tech products.
@Wolverine_onYTTV
@Wolverine_onYTTV Жыл бұрын
These are the videos we need more of...what's best, best bang for buck ect
@weevilsnitz
@weevilsnitz Жыл бұрын
Finally. Been waiting for this proper comparison of DDR4 to DDR5.
@TimLongson
@TimLongson Жыл бұрын
FANTASTIC VIDEO! But what about RAM size vs performance? Like 64GB (2x 32GB sticks) seems to come with slower CL than 32GB (2x 16GB stick) kits; does the extra RAM space offset the lower CL in gaming performance? I'm planning on getting a AMD 7950X3D when they come out later this month. I was planning on getting a DDR5 64GB RAM kit, to use in this new rig which is primarily a gaming PC with an RTX4090. Any specific suggestions on the best 64GB RAM kit?
@Verroll
@Verroll Жыл бұрын
First, why the heII are you asking this question here and second, if you are planning to just game 16gb is enough and ई recommend cl 28 -cl32 ram at 5200-6000
@fh5kskalf
@fh5kskalf Жыл бұрын
RAM capacity doesn't directly impact performance at all, if you have enough RAM you have enough. 64 GB is directly counterproductive if you don't need it for productivity workloads, since as you point out the kits are slower. 16 GB is just barely enough (the minimum requirement for new games), 32 GB is the sweet spot.
@madd5
@madd5 Жыл бұрын
2x32gb ddr5 can run at the same speed at 2x32gb. But 128gb with 4 sticks will definitely not run. DDR5 can't handle well 4 sticks for now. Shame.
@TimLongson
@TimLongson Жыл бұрын
@@Verroll I'm guessing you didn't see the Linus video on them now recommending at least 32GB for gaming PCs now?
@amdsy3d521
@amdsy3d521 Жыл бұрын
For AMD, you guys didn't test that it's not really the cas timings but the secondary timings which need to be tight. A cl40 kit on AMD can be much better than a cl28 kit. Watch ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking's videos.
@pitluggreymore6504
@pitluggreymore6504 Жыл бұрын
That last transition to the sponsor segment was so funny. XD Great video, and very informative, thank you LTT.
@Jeremy-fl2xt
@Jeremy-fl2xt Жыл бұрын
I am so glad the sponsoring product reaches it's read and write performance" respectfully". While I think there are many aspects of Korean culture I don't yet grasp, respect does appear to be a very important concept from what I've experienced. There does seem to be a concept of being respectable (in non-verbal ways indicating your own worthiness/capacity-for of being respected by others). With respect to this SSD, if the read and write performance has different metrics when it is being respectful and when being respectable, it would be good to know the respective metrics. I mean this in jest, and in a most respectful way - writing copy that would be scrutinized by the internet (and your audience is probably more pedantic than most) seems like it would be a special kind of torture.
@xoxoyomama1289
@xoxoyomama1289 Жыл бұрын
I like that y’all are bringing in equations and talking about clock cycles. These shouldn’t be considered advanced topics
@StefandeJong1
@StefandeJong1 Жыл бұрын
Should be mentioned that DDR5 6000 runs with AMD's infinity fabric in a 1:1 ratio and will generally be the most stable
@blkshp25
@blkshp25 Жыл бұрын
Why was this not a focal point in this test? Not even a mention of infinity fabric, strange!?
@CHA0SHACKER
@CHA0SHACKER Жыл бұрын
Because it doesn’t work like that on Ryzen 7000 anymore. IF frequency is dynamic up to 4000 MT/s and not higher. What changes over 6000MT/s is that the memory controller runs at half clock, but you can still try running Gear 1, which is apparently what they did here. IFCLK:UCLK:MEMCLK Auto:1:1 On Ryzen 7000 at least.
@estebanr7877
@estebanr7877 Жыл бұрын
Linus’ hair is looking really good
@raincatchfire
@raincatchfire Жыл бұрын
Some say that DDR5 consumes less power, but does that hold true in practice? Apparently for the same given frequency (ex: DDR4 4000mhz vs DDR5 4000mhz) , DDR5 consumes less power as DDR5 Voltage is 1.1 while DDR4 voltage is 1.2 (XMP off) to 1.35 (XMP on). However new generations of ram have WORSE performance for the same given frequency, so basically DDR4 3200mhz = DDR5 5000mhz (or something close to that) performance-wise. So my noob question is basically- won't the higher frequency of DDR 5 necessary to achieve the same performance of lower frequency DDR4 cancel out the benefits of DDR5 running at a lower voltage? Thank you.
@StudyWithNika
@StudyWithNika 10 ай бұрын
most people use cl 16 or cl18 ddr4 so using that ram would make the video more interesting
@jacksonh6804
@jacksonh6804 Жыл бұрын
Would have been curious too see slower speeds on the graph…. On the tests where it didn’t make a big difference where is the plateau really? Is it 3800? 3000? 2800?
@LinkSquish
@LinkSquish Жыл бұрын
I got TUF Gaming Z690-Plus WiFi D4 board, I9 12900K , VENGEANCE LPX 32GB DDR4 3600MHz, 1TB WD MVNe Black & 1TB WD MVNe Blue a year ago. I've very happy with it.
@stopspam7023
@stopspam7023 Жыл бұрын
IDK who works at LTT sponsor search department ,but he is ulta-super-master, who convinced Samsung to advertise his 970 evo ssd.
@noobielameo
@noobielameo Жыл бұрын
10 years later and we are still discussing about ram speed. Life lesson, a fast car is a slow car unless the driver is compatible.
@Suandihendrik
@Suandihendrik 5 ай бұрын
So what is the best choice of ram speed for ryzen 7800x3d?
@DeeSea3
@DeeSea3 3 ай бұрын
I think the ddr5 6400 32cl ram kits would work best dual channel probably 2 16gb or 32gb sticks if your rich
@JonathanCF0
@JonathanCF0 Жыл бұрын
as always a great video. that segue was top notch.
@rubencaceiro3776
@rubencaceiro3776 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so so much for this video, was very help full to be able of buy informed
@2free2snakes
@2free2snakes Жыл бұрын
My main box is still using DDR3, so having the next box using DDR5 seems like an obvious choice. If not for latency but at least I will be doubling my capacity to at least 32 gigs
@khy0te605
@khy0te605 Жыл бұрын
Riffing on Morgan Drinks Coffee there Linus?
@richardrisner921
@richardrisner921 Жыл бұрын
I could use more context and disambiguation of terms to fully appreciate the hard work put into this video.
@DartzIRL
@DartzIRL Жыл бұрын
The only time I ever saw an improvement from RAM speed was using the old A10 APU's - which did noticeably better at 2400Mhz than at 1600. But that's due to the graphics architecture. Still have that thing. It's a good bluray player.
@L1Q
@L1Q Жыл бұрын
when talking about RAM, integrated GPUs are becoming a more and more important point
@bobalazsgaming
@bobalazsgaming Жыл бұрын
Secondary timings more important than primary timings for gaming. wake up
@infernow2125
@infernow2125 Жыл бұрын
Youknow I feel like this should have a more obvious disclaimer for when it was filmed, considering not only what you mentioned, but as time goes on, faster cpus are gonna require faster ram
@themcpolo
@themcpolo Жыл бұрын
This came right in time since I am building an I9 gaming pc in the next week and a half!
@tylerdoop
@tylerdoop Жыл бұрын
Bro guy guys are selling 3 pairs of underwear for FIFTY DOLLARS?? That’s sooo expensive
@TheAussieRepairGuy
@TheAussieRepairGuy Жыл бұрын
0:04 - now I have to get up off the floor, scared me off my seat....
@Ayjrin
@Ayjrin Жыл бұрын
I didn't understand a lot of this, but I like ur purple wall.
@tony_tv
@tony_tv 10 ай бұрын
Is this 4:28 Crucial RAM bad/slow for being CL46 @ 5600mhz? Is not worth it?
@miguelmercedez7771
@miguelmercedez7771 Жыл бұрын
it would be interesting if you would do a Dj software review on video playback and software cost?
@battleforevermore
@battleforevermore 20 күн бұрын
1 year in.. the prices have changed so much
@TheOriginalItchyman
@TheOriginalItchyman Жыл бұрын
So you're saying my manually OC'd 3600mhz CL14 kit is keeping up with DDR5? Cool.
@Crotalus18
@Crotalus18 Жыл бұрын
@Linus Tech Tips, I just wanted to say, that was the best segue ever and you got me laughing. Well done
@Grrriffin.
@Grrriffin. Жыл бұрын
I have almost no idea what you just said but enjoyed watching. Thanks!
@timurborn
@timurborn Жыл бұрын
None of these supposed performance improvements matter in practice. Lows and average fps numbers are already ridiculously high to begin with at 5600 MT (or lower).
@AsToldByAI
@AsToldByAI Жыл бұрын
Still running 8 gigs DDR3 (1600), got 8 times that of DDR4 (3200) sitting on my desk. Just waiting for the CPU to get in to build it up.
@jacobp8306
@jacobp8306 Жыл бұрын
Has Nvidia pulled the 1030 *scam* with any of their other graphics cards? The version that you can easily get because it's in stock always, is DDR4 and runs literally 50% worse then the DDR5 it originally had (check Gamers Nexus) . As far as on board ram, you almost *never* get a choice. If your system isn't very recent you're kind of hand cuffed into whatever you can actually use.. So have some love for the people that don't get the newest systems every week.
@pattyoneill91
@pattyoneill91 Жыл бұрын
Seeing that screw drilled through that stick of ram gave me a small conniption
@KixPanganiban
@KixPanganiban Жыл бұрын
Oh wow I didn't know you guys were part of the Babish Culinary Universe
@RafaelBirkner
@RafaelBirkner Жыл бұрын
Sometimes it's the best to let all the RAM settings on AUTO not loading any XMP/EXPO profile and stay with 1.1V
@justsomeitweeb
@justsomeitweeb Жыл бұрын
I've tried using XMP on multiple computers on LGA 1151 and AM4 and every time it causes stability issues and most often caused the system to stop posting. Manually setting the RAM to the rated speed and raising the voltage always seems to work though. I've since been convinced that XMP is BS and will always set memory speed manually to avoid a headache.
@moritzrothacher2669
@moritzrothacher2669 Жыл бұрын
With this background music I feel like Linus is explaining a gameshow challenge for 10mins straight
@nickkalister6291
@nickkalister6291 Жыл бұрын
manual dram timing- lol that takes me back to the DFI motherboard days I wonder what oskar wu is up to today
@Psmgamer
@Psmgamer Жыл бұрын
I just got a G15 Dell Gaming laptop that uses DDR5 RAM (8GB/16GB). Prices are a bit high like $200 so I"ll wait or ship around. Definitely will just wait for higher speed ones to come out as I want to replace both cards in the future.
@fhs7838
@fhs7838 Жыл бұрын
Because the most RAM speed demanding CPUs are still not available for Desktop/AM5... The APUs. Laptop even choose to use even higher latency RAM, the LPDDR5/5X just for higher MT/s (bandwidth). 6800U at LPD5 6400 128bit already get over 100GBps bandwidth. And 7840HS will get 120GBps at LPD5X 7500. But still slower than RX6400's 128GBps VRAM.
@plumphoenix-hy5yn
@plumphoenix-hy5yn 11 ай бұрын
What happens if I put on my mb z790 ddr5 128 gb ram 6600hmz
@lukerichards22
@lukerichards22 Жыл бұрын
"Our testing started mid last month, so that's December 2022." Video released 13 Feb.
@tommyspringfield7687
@tommyspringfield7687 Жыл бұрын
and you can find out with this help from our sponsor 0:51
@christianrissotto.gordohom3478
@christianrissotto.gordohom3478 Жыл бұрын
DDR 5 ram memories are too green and unsupported..... thanks for poiting up that the memory latency is the key factor on actual speed now..... it changes a lot the way we need to see the future products on the market...... it was a great video.
@GatsuRage
@GatsuRage Жыл бұрын
what I got from this video is that I'm still more than fine with my ddr4 3600 kit for my video games... thanks!
@GatsuRage
@GatsuRage Жыл бұрын
@El Cactuar thanks.
@billlangly7806
@billlangly7806 Жыл бұрын
It's good to know that when I do writes on my Samsung 970 Evo it will handle them with respect.
@MichaelTavel
@MichaelTavel Жыл бұрын
I'm glad the Samsung drive in the sponsor segment hist its performance numbers "respectfully"!
@DX6860
@DX6860 8 ай бұрын
You should revisit this a year later... Id like to see what's changed. Building a new PC and all these different speeds and numbers are confusing.
@shlagevuk
@shlagevuk Жыл бұрын
It's kinda weird to not have some benchmark on games that are known for their CPU or RAM bottleneck. Like factorio.
@Blade332
@Blade332 Жыл бұрын
Linus went on a scavenger hunt to find the most scuffed looking piece of glass he could find for the segue.
@toodarkpark
@toodarkpark Жыл бұрын
@10:04 Oh what nice manners that SSD has!
@toodarkpark
@toodarkpark Жыл бұрын
WTF, I came here to make fun of mr respectfully, and I find that I already did. I must really like watching ram videos.
@wyattkane
@wyattkane Жыл бұрын
Now we can call you “Papa Tech Tips” 😊
@bachelorsensei9437
@bachelorsensei9437 Жыл бұрын
0:09 That is exactly how a 90's guy like me would react 🤣
@Starscreamious
@Starscreamious Жыл бұрын
4:40 Shouldn't that be 30-38-96? None of the 3 numbers is 30....that would be false advertising.
@OmarFW
@OmarFW Жыл бұрын
In retrospect, linus' hosting skills have become god tier compared to when he first started
@foc2241
@foc2241 Жыл бұрын
Manual Overclocking RAM Me: Adjust from XMP-2800 to 3000 MHz XD
@rrfifa4077
@rrfifa4077 Жыл бұрын
Al fin le agregan doblaje ¡¡ Ahora voy a poder ver todos sus videos .
@TimvanHelsdingen
@TimvanHelsdingen Жыл бұрын
I run my 128g of DDR5 at only 4800 because XMP above 2 dimms is broken on both intel and amd side.
@notnerd3
@notnerd3 Жыл бұрын
I think some tests at a higher resolution would be useful so we have more realistic real world results. Most people with a balling CPU won’t be running 1080p but at least 1440p. So how well would a more GPU bottlenecked system perform?
@richteritwan
@richteritwan Жыл бұрын
@Linus can you explore solutions for laptop ram overclocking say for business laptops like Dell/hp? Vote this up if you would be interested in seeing this!
@mrlithium69
@mrlithium69 Жыл бұрын
@1:55 You messed up the video by comparing it to a too-expensive $200 DDR4 @ CL14 choice when CL16 RAM is $100 and you did not even give one cheap DDR4 kit a chance, some are sub $80 with CL18.
@matthewcovington2699
@matthewcovington2699 Жыл бұрын
Y’all started going to try to figure out if you get to test the tech from the downed ufo??
@sudopessimist
@sudopessimist Жыл бұрын
I'm a computer scintist and I love teh show but it is most of the time lacking on my type of benchmark, I'll love to see some benchmark with loads for compilation tests and/or Unreal Engine! Some heavy loads on the programmer space!
@bretearwood7027
@bretearwood7027 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. I'm going to go download more RAM right now
@Altair00rion
@Altair00rion Жыл бұрын
10:08I always like my SSDs respectful Riley
@wpontius4355
@wpontius4355 Жыл бұрын
Apparently I don't understand the stats and numbers of latency and frame rates, or them being critical enough in my builds and PC usage to fret over. November 2022 I upgraded to a i7 13700K with 32 Gigs 6200 DDR5 RAM, on a MSI Pro motherboard and a Geforce 3060 video card. Games, apps and videos run smooth, the memory latency, frame rates, haven't a clue. Watching the videos about this is interesting, but understanding the numbers as to how they benefit my build and system performance is like studying accounting. Mind numbing. Overclocking/adjusting even memory parameters in BIOS to get it up to rated clock speed is scary enough, no way I'm going to try overclocking my CPU!!
@LautaroQ2812
@LautaroQ2812 Жыл бұрын
In dumb terms what I'm getting from this is "find a mid range / upper mid range RAM speed, and try to make the latency low". Getting good snappy performance out of a not so expensive kit.
@michealmorris3766
@michealmorris3766 Жыл бұрын
Y'know, if I was watching an NCIX video a hundred years ago, and you told me that Linus character would be a famous underwear model... I don't know what I'd say.
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