"The Evolution of Firearms" - Episode 6 - World War Two

[@MDformernavalperson]

@21:03 - The .30 M1 carbine cartridge is NOT a pistol cartridge as was stated (twice). It was developed from the .32 Winchester self-loading rifle round as a long arm cartridge. It was not until many years after WWII that Ruger chambered a single action revolver in .30 M1 caliber.

[@garyK.45ACP]

Thank you. Saved me the trouble. 👍

[@vincentlavallee2779]

Perhaps he should have said that is was in the style of handgun ammo, in that it does not have the typical bulge for the powder (it is the same diameter all the way down the cartridge), which almost NO handgun ammo has. It does look like a handgun round, and in fact, it has a little more power than my .357 high end ammo, so it is a lot less powerful than the .30-06 shot in the M1 (or from any rifle).

[@garyK.45ACP]

@@vincentlavallee2779 Case shape (the shape you are referring to is called "bottlenecked") has nothing to do with whether it is rifle of handgun ammunition, neither does the rim type (rimmed, rimless, rebated, semi-rimmed) there are many examples of every type in both handgun and rifle cartridges. Neither is the power level a factor. Many of the older rifle cartridges do not exceed the .357 Magnum in power. The classification of whether it is a rifle or handgun cartridge is based on what gun it was designed for. The .30 M1 Carbine was developed for a rifle, it was based on another cartridge, the .32 WSL, also a rifle cartridge. It is, therefor, classified as a rifle cartridge. Oddly enough many early cartridge handguns were chambered for rifle cartridges, making them "rifle caliber pistols" long before there were any "pistol caliber carbines"

[@garyperdue5702]

pistol cartridge

[@rangerup1804]

@@garyK.45ACP Me too. That clown at the NRA museum doesn't know shit about the M1 Carbine.

[@reinaldogarcia70]

I remember way back in 2002 - 2003 viewing the History Channel tales of the gun I seen most of the episodes twice to three times in a row so I can retain the information they speak about and use it for my personal choice if I was to buy a firearm This video is extremely informative and it has great information historical information

[@HRHtheDude]

I can understand no mention of the STEN gun, as iconic as it is as a desperation design. However, no Sturmgewehr? I guess the next episode will be the development of the assault rifle.

[@jonsouth1545]

BAR but no BREN or any of the Czech designs that revolutionised the designs of squad level light Machine guns

[@rogernicholls2079]

@@jonsouth1545 american bias.

[@Make_Boxing_Great_Again]

The Sturmgewehr is not an icon, it’s a pioneer, there is a difference.

[@Make_Boxing_Great_Again]

@@jonsouth1545 It’s an American programme, therefore non-American stuff is unlikely to get a mention unless it’s exceptionally mentionable. That’s how Americans think you see, Americans have an inflated opinion of all things American.

[@HRHtheDude]

@@Make_Boxing_Great_Again A successful pioneer becomes an icon.

[@hangvu8838]

31:14 : that's Vietnamese Police and Female Militia using PPSH against the 1979 Chinese Invasion in Northern Boder of Vietnam, not North Korean soldier

[@wolfhausindustries]

LOL @ the guy(s) not actually shooting the 50 in video but attempting to mimic experiencing recoil from 9:55-10:30

[@vigunfighter]

That museum "expert" doest know squat. Actually gives out wrong information. The .30 carbine round was not a pistol cartridge and that was a 15 round magazine, not 20. And he needs ahaircut!

[@sweetkiller9696]

Thx for pointing it out I thought I misunderstood him especially for a quite popular weapon like that I know it had 15 or 30 round magazines

[@kevin6030]

the standard straight box mag for the M1 carbine holds 15 rounds my curator friend 🤠

[@MDformernavalperson]

Correct! An egregious error for an "expert".

[@hidhshsj123]

I was looking for a comment like this .

[@radwayb]

Correct. I laughed so hard at that part wondering how he got the job!

[@mikewithers299]

Yup. The 20 round mag was curved

[@Danogil]

22:15 Christopher Ruff and the 20 round box magazine of the M-1 Carbine, 31:41 Jungle Combat in Korea?

[@georgesakellaropoulos8162]

I watch this channel for the misinformation.

[@paulbeaney4901]

Thank you for posting this series.

[@joejoe2928]

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[@aaravtulsyan]

So no mention of gernman MP18?

[@hovorka21]

I was waiting for MP 18 too, but no.... We have to see BAR again, just for case that we missed it in previous episode...... And mg42? This machine gun was killed pretty lot of americans.... Maybe thets the thing🤔

[@drdrumbeat3010]

Basically, a series of documentaries made by the USA about US Firearms. Everyone else is just a footnote.

[@ScoutSniper3124]

10:32 What gun is this? It sure doesn't look like a Ma-Deuce. (Answer: I found it out it's an early Maxim Pom Pom 37mm gun) Thanks to Forgotten Weapons, and Ian for the info.

[@robertocanales1201]

Thank you very much 😑🙏🏼

[@Whitpusmc]

Not blaming the uploader but at :031 in they are talking about US WW1 rifles and showing the M1903A3 which is a postwar version. It’s not like finding a picture of a M1903 would be that difficult...

[@3Pillers]

👍 excellent

[@aristidesgarciafiorente2583]

The Garand being the first ordnance rifle? Yes, and John Paul Jones discovered America... Have you ever heard about the "Sistema Mondragón Modelo 1908" rifle?

[@ATypicalDudes]

Amazing

[@tomupchurch4911]

💥When I was a kid (I'm 64 now) I saw a lot of people hunting with .303 Enfields 1903 Springfields & 8mm Mausers but no Mosin or Arisaka rifles... I'll be nice and leave it at that.

[@thejustice7305]

Forgot the No 4 and No 5 Lee Enfields

[@davidmcgahan5328]

this is such a great series of videos thanks for the history lesson.

[@Ghatbkk]

They'd be better if they were more accurate.

[@matscaife9014]

The Beltway Bandits Mat 👍

[@davejones67]

I wasn’t aware they fought in jungles in Korea......

[@ptt619]

Ikr, korean war was mountain warfare, not jungle necessarily

[@jonsouth1545]

This should be renamed Evolution of American Firearms as 25 min into the video and not a single non American weapon has been mentioned.

[@TheEvilmooseofdoom]

And zero about their actual evolution..

[@HRHtheDude]

Definitely a flag waving show.

[@Fujiapple]

@@HRHtheDude yup, they're mostly jerking off stories about individual soldiers and how many they killed. With minimal technical details about the actual guns

[@psilvakimo]

No mention is made of the German sturmgehwer.

[@ray.shoesmith]

The whole series is the same.

[@behindthespotlight7983]

Which do you like better? The 1921 Thompson (50 & 100 rd drum mag, fore grip, Chicago typewriter ) or the 1927 Thompson (wood furniture, stick mag, Band of Brothers style) ??? For shooting give me the WW2 Era Thompson but for a full auto, history& artistry I’ll take the gangsta gun 😉

[@VaxlandMapping101]

1927, it’s easier to load and the mags are easier to carry.

[@aaronmaynard6019]

Talks about the tompson, forgets about the MP18.

[@polarjet1833]

M1918A2 BAR, it’s only got two fire modes: full auto and fuller auto

[@Nooziterp1]

Two selectable rates of fire. 350 or 550 rpm.

[@rcstl8815]

@@Nooziterp1 That's what he said! lol

[@ScoutSniper3124]

Pro-Tip. Don't drag the machinegun off through the jungle, either disable it with a couple rounds from your Garand into the feed tray, or just pull the pin and take the feed tray with you. The armorer would cuss to high heaven if you shot it, but that's better than letting it be used on your fellow Soldiers. Either way, these men are ALL HEROES in my book. SSG. U.S. Army (Medically Retired) Infantry / Sniper / SOF Intel (SOT-A), multiple tours

[@bradenc5444]

So no mention of the stg44 or the mg42? Also towards the end of this, did you really make the comparison for accuracy of the m1 garrand vs the ppsh41? Those arent even remotely in the same category of guns lol

[@mart_en]

Why is this mainly focused on American arms ? The great inventions of this area came mostly from Europe, especially Germany.

[@vincentlavallee2779]

I think for some reason you think this should talk only about firearms only used or invented in the US. But this is nearly impossible since Europe had gone thru many wars, and thus was forced to develop and design firearms. One example is the move towards the Springfield 1903, which came from the Mauser, a German designed rifle. But this IS an American gun, although not totally designed by Americans, but far better mainly because it shot the 30-06 round, which is far more powerful that anything the Europeans used. Another example is the creation of the American Infield rifle, which shot the .30-06 instead of the very weak British .303. To continue, the M1 is NOT European, nor is the M1917 machine gun, nor is the 911 .45 ACP, nor is the BAR, nor is the .50 cal Ma Deuce. So, what show are you listening to?

[@mart_en]

@@vincentlavallee2779 That's exactly my point, all those weapons were NOT European. However most of the best and most advanced guns of the first half of the 20th century came from Europe, Germany to be precise. But they are not mentioned in the documentary. And using a stronger cartridge does not make it a better gun. For instance the Mauser 98k is regarded as the best bolt action rifle ever made. On top it's 7.92 mm cartridge was super strong and could penetrate an oak tree from a 100 yards. But penetration power wasn't even important at that time anymore, firepower and modern technology was ...

[@solomongrundy9735]

A Thompson is considered light? I guess compared to a machine gun, but they're over 10lbs when empty.

[@soulknife20]

I know this is like a year old comment but technically a light machine gun is able to be operated by one person. So yes. A Thompson is a light machine gun. Or in the case of the Thompson, sub machine gun (a term coined by Thompson himself).

[@diegomontoya3065]

1.75 speed makes this easier to listen to. Unless you were in the marines.

[@danielyuzu1631]

You mean 0.75?

[@larskunoandersen5750]

there was the short m/38. Get you facts right

[@jack6565]

Is it just me or does the narrator kinda laugh when he says fiercely erect at 7:27

[@carsoncasmirri3874]

It is kinda hilarious that with the Russian invasion of Ukraine there is now another war over 120 years after it’s creation that the Mosin Nagant has been fielded in any capacity with a standing army. Between that and the Ma-Deuce and the 1911, which has fought in every US war for over a hundred years, it’s a testament to either the desperation of people to have any kind of weapons or just the sheer reliability and skilled design of them. Also there are some M2’s in service today that are over 70 years old. If that ain’t a testament to the abilities of John Moses Browning then I don’t know what is.

[@abstractapproach634]

10:55 well half-cocked sure made up for his family legacy

[@mafiosomemer3730]

M1 Carbine can be considered America's first Personal Defense Weapon

[@budgibson185]

Love that weapon

[@alvinksmith3]

America's 1st 'personal defense weapon' just like Humanity's is NOT a Firearm to begin with... Its the brain... I love guns just like everyone else... But let's be real

[@behindthespotlight7983]

Nah. It’s either the Colt Patterson or the 1846 Colt Navy for America’s first personal defense weapon

[@carsoncasmirri3874]

And part of the inspiration for the development of 5.56 NATO

[@sumvs5992]

Funny how they call the PPSh select fire. It has two modes, on and off. Very rarely can you get a single shot off.

[@AlexShavkunov]

They have a lot of BS in this episode. When I heard that M1 carbine was using "handgun rounds", I was like - wait, wha...? And of course my memory did not fail. The .30 Carbine (7.62x33) is a CARBINE round, as the name implies, and was a development of an earlier .32 round, also designed for a carbine. "Select fire" PPSh... Direct comparison of an SMG (PPSh) against an automatic rifle (M1 Garand)... Like, every 10 min of this video I had a cringe. IAnd I am by no means a firearms specialist. Sloppy job.

[@a.demarco7585]

Just going to skip over the STG44? If there was any new type of gun to come out of WWII it would be the assault rifle. Eh perhaps it will get mentioned when they bring up the AK.

[@ronaldyoungberg9933]

I have this whole series on DVD and they do a episode on the assault rifle and mention the STG44.

[@benquinney2]

Not the knee mortar

[@klaidinbabakhanof9373]

M-1 carbine has 15 round box magazine not 20 round

[@DaveSCameron]

Why so many adverts?

[@TexasDog3]

Who narrates this. His voice sounds familiar. I want to say Charleton Heston. But I think I'm wrong.

[@marc260267]

I think it's Henry Fonda

[@subroaolcom]

Coby Batty, who was in Legends and Lies.

[@TexasDog3]

@@subroaolcom Thank you.

[@andreweden9405]

At 15:58... Wow, imagine being on the American side in WW2, and having the name Adolf!😃

[@manricobianchini5276]

That's this episode, Jon. Chill.

[@garyK.45ACP]

Given recent events I think it is important to mention that Lyudmila Pavlichenko was NOT Russian. She was Ukrainian.

[@juiced0202]

That's like the same thing.

[@garyK.45ACP]

@@juiced0202 Ask Russians being killed by Ukrainian snipers today if it's the same thing.

[@ward142]

The jungle battlefields of Korea?

[@jimomalley1518]

60 to 1 !

[@N.A.X.]

85 to 1

[@christophersilsby7829]

This hole series is about the US/American Colonies seen through the weapons used by the people of and those who fought for the US MILITARY.

[@leon_1346]

You forgott the Stg 44

[@benquinneyiii7941]

The Chicago typewriter

[@abstractapproach634]

90% defense *good, that's what the federal government us supposed to do, not police us with Rouge agencies

[@benquinneyiii7941]

Use it as a club

[@najmihusain]

They have not mentioned mg42, mp40, mauser pistol, stg44. Which were superior to there American counterpart

[@aurathedraak7909]

well, we all know that jpn, had the worst weapons in ww2, also total junk weapons as well, tanks were that way and the only effective weapon was out there was kamazies and that my opinion.

[@Kylemathews1]

Idk, I feel like maybe some other countries had shittier weapons. Maybe China, Greece, France or Italy, i feel like but I'm not sure.

[@nikolaivasilev7371]

...You have no clue what you are talking about ! Aside of their pistols,they had both great bolt action riffles and machine-guns. This is not even disputed by todays weapons historians(of any real importance and creditability ). You can find even today's tests (with weapons that went through a lot),just showing how good they were.Arisaka riffles were extremely good and the only downside later on was making Type 99 in 7.7x58 and its variations,which were mostly used again in jungle warfare.They were still great,but problem was that it had a far more noticable muzzle flash and recoil was felt a lot more by a Japanese soldier,while it had far worse trajectory of 6.5 Arisaka catridge.This was due to Japanese wanting to unify their cartridges due to logistics,as they saw that machine guns required more than just 6.5. Also,another myth that keeps going on is about Arisaka sights being used to shoot airplanes...Which is true and bullcrap at the same time.IT was misinterpeted by US in WWII,put into informative and training videos for the troops and later got into documentaries ..while ignoring Japanese sources. The models that did have them,were meant to be used in group fire together,basically volley.The idea was that some bullets that way may also hit airplanes,especially less maneuverable fighter-bombers carrying torpedos and bombs.It had its merits,thou quite limited,as it required the aircraft to be at few hundred meters height and having a relatively straight flight. But over all, firearms were top notch ! Even on tanks your idea is wrong,that one is far more justified due to their show of inferiority compared to Sherman and others(tank destroyers mostly,thou in some cases even Stuart) . Again,far from being junk,just outdated and build for different reasons. They were not of low quality at all.Problem was that their doctrine was based on the 30s and most of the designs...and for that time they were AHEAD of US ! With neccessity for lighter designs for marches and jungles, limitation for transport(especially due to how much of finished military products was also going back to China),focus on navy and the fact that in China they did not need anything better,their tanks did not change much in their requirements. So that is far more complicated...Later ,even after realizing that tank doctrine,requirments and design need drastic changes,their industry had to give priority to Navy and what was needed to keep China under some control(also interesting fact,but technically they spent more resources and men on fighting in China than US and Commonwealth together).So it was prioritization.They made some nice designs(thou nothing spectacular, but still good enough) ,but made in too few numbers to be of any importance.That being said,their armored vehicles were a different story and they kept on with changes ,even making some spectacular ones...but again,fewer in numbers due to prioritization of what was most important. As for ACTUAL Kamikazi unites(not to be confused with other unites who tried to crash into ships as their last ditch effort in a battle),their success fast became low and it still cost them their best pilots,making the whole kamiazki tactics just harmful to Japanese wareffort ...literally having little effect quite soon,while costing them their best pilots. Wont even go into ships and submarines,as they are a story of their own and again,quite far from junk...Not to mention aircraft. Also,this documentary has little to do with gun evolution,as they really focus on US side,while ignoring important(even revolutionary ) design developments of British,Germans,Czech,Japanese, Italians,Belgian and USSR. Not to mention full of misinformation and malpresentation in this video,which I have seen many pointing out as well

[@dauntless0711]

No good weapons/vehicles? Have you never heard of the A6M Zero, the best carrier aircraft of its day? It's true, they were obsolete by the end of the war, only useful as kamikazes. This is NOT unusual. By the end of the Civil War, almost all the weapons the Americans bought to fight it were obsolete.

[@JnEricsonx]

@@nikolaivasilev7371 My grandfather brought back a Nambu pistol from Japan. I didn't know it was called for years.

[@WOJERZY]

👍😁🙋

[@martinkineavy9039]

What no .303

[@meinkamph5327]

For a minute it sounded like you started the making of this with reading too many Bonnie and Clyde story's. Included them takes validity from the video. Lame.....

[@meinkamph5327]

Plus this video is all war story's. We all know guns are used in war. You kinda forgot to add the Evolution of firearms. You just show who was using what. Who made these guns, how were they tested. Were they by woman or children. What condition were they built in. Were the guns a newer design of an older design. You suck as a historian... Ur a story teller.

[@josephsmith1811]

Ak47???

[@rawone9158]

American yeah

[@killerkab1141]

This is all American rifles kinda a let down syil intesting

[@1-7-1lh8]

This is legit more about American guns and America than about everything else, why not talk about German and Russians and so many more guns

[@benquinneyiii7941]

Pointy sticks

[@robertdragoff6909]

Not to nitpick, but, you mispronounced the name of the M1 rifle and it’s inventor…. His name was Garand, pronounced Garann…. Sounds like ‘Karen’ with a G at the the beginning…. I know,, like the difference between tomatoes and tomataas……. Just wanted to let everyone know

[@RGinCC]

Too much BS inthe first 3 minutes. T down and closed!

[@animationanime9612]

Change the name this episode

[@TommygunNG]

Not the best vid of the series.

[@benquinneyiii7941]

Go cyclic

[@pyeitme508]

Ok

[@samueldocski4426]

Thanks for a useless comment. Helps the algorithm nonetheless

[@johnveglio4433]

Everything you said was right on the money, UNTILL your very last sentence !!! I would never own one of those piece of crap m-16s ! I would rather have either an M-1 or M-14 than a full auto .22 cal. varmint rifle !!!!

[@Kylemathews1]

Yeah M14 is pretty heavy though. I had an airsoft gun m14 that was the same weight as the real thing (11 lbs, without ammo) and it gets tiring running around with it and holding it up to shoot. I was still a kid then, so maybe it's not that bad if you're decently strong, but I still feel like m-16 would be better if you're on the move, but m14 would be better when more stationary.

[@vigunfighter]

if 6oubthink the M1or M14 is a better weapon than the M16 then you are a fool. There is averaged reason that the M14 only served a few short years and the M16 has been in service for almost 60. If 6ou think the 5.56 cartridge isn't effective then you are a double dipped fool

[@sumvs5992]

The .223 is pretty good in general though, as you aren't engaging targets beyond 100 meters, and the smallet bullet is going to cause more internal damage in a body than an over penetrating bolt action's cartridge. Not to mention you can carry about 2 .223 for every large cartridge a bolt action would use. Not to say it doesn't have its uses in a modern military, but it doesn't seem very smart for a modern soldier to be lugging round a rifle that can only hold 15 to 20 rounds in the magazine.

[@larskunoandersen5750]

Vietnam had to beat the French first

[@MRFLESHSTORM]

could have been a great vid.. but the acting is so bad

[@stewart8127]

This doc is full of bs