Lions vs Bills Week 15 Preview | Jay Gruden & Colt McCoy

[@CleanPocketUD]

Things got HEATED discussing the MVP. Gruden has Josh Allen, and Justin has Lamar Jackson. Who do you have? Comment #teamgruden for Josh Allen and #teamjustin for Lamar!

[@Buffalo_Sports]

PERFECT EXAMPLE: Take Josh off the Bills they 10 point underdogs. Take Saquon off the Eagles they go from 7pt favorite to 4 pt favorite...Same with Lamar cuz look at the weapons around him...like I said dude DOESN'T HAVE A CLUE ab football

[@johnthrasher8146]

Josh Allen has been tremendous, and he's been tremendous for five years straight now. His team has won their AFC East division five years in a row. Jared Goff has been tremendous, and he's been tremendous for three years in a row. They won their NFC North division for the first time ever last season. For all of Josh Allen's greatness and some individual history making records this season, Jared Goff's accomplishments for both his team and the personal records he has set in the process are simply historic at both the franchise and NFL levels. Goff should win for those reasons, but my guess is he will not and that Josh Allen will win the MVP. I think Goff will win the Walter Payton Award for his charity-community work as the trade off. Everybody wins. Thanks for the great banter and insights!

[@DropZone33]

Lamar Jackson? 🤣Give me a frickin break Justin, it's not even close, it's Josh Allen and it's not even close, he should of won last year as well.

[@tricktaylor]

JA17 all day

[@1Ctbillsfan]

@@CleanPocketUD JA17 =MVP 💯🤟😎

[@Harpazoed]

Lions Cat here. Josh Allen is the best QB. Goff is the best in the NFC.

[@MB-xq9hu]

Bills 52 Lions 20

[@matthewmolina3326]

Allen deserves MVP. Got robbed last year because of the INT and Lamar won with weak stats. What Allen is doing with average talent around him in a “rebuilding year” is crazy

[@CleanPocketUD]

He has been incredible this season!

[@Vigilofgaming]

He got robbed for throwing more ints? That is a damn good reason to not allow that person to be mvp that’s insane

[@Motor-City_Ben-Diesel]

Lions Defense is getting back Alim, Reader, Levi and Paschal back this week. They also are getting Decker back. In a few weeks they will get Anzalone back at lb.

[@lynellwilson288]

Facts❤❤❤

[@bigger680]

Don't you worry about Detroit's defense. Lots of starters are coming back. When the Lions starters are playing, their defense is top 5. Do better, guys.

[@weontopdough1008]

@@bigger680Facts

[@chopin1975-tq3gx]

good luck stopping Allen; hes making everybody look like a high school athlete

[@weontopdough1008]

@ There’s 3 other teams that say he can be had. Not stopping him doesn’t equal an automatic bills win. Let’s not fake a deal here. Just be honest with yourself for a minute. As good as he is, it’ll take WAY more to leave Detroit with a win. Lions dub

[@NYCfrankie]

What happened last week i thought GB was just gunna take it to that that Lions defense according to gruden

[@chopin1975-tq3gx]

they scored 31 points... what the hell are you talking about

[@Motor-City_Ben-Diesel]

Lol Love had 30 passing yds in the first half. The Lions offense gave them two short feilds on the Lions 30. One was a Goff pick and one was a 4th down that wasn’t converted. The packers really only went down the field on the Lions defense twice that whole game. Let’s not forget all 10 of the Lions defensive lineman were out and the only starting lb playing was jack Cambell. Jacobs had 3 rushing tds on us. If we had Alim Paschal, Levi and Reader playing which they all played the week before, Jacobs ain’t scoring 3 rushing tds. The game really never felt close, the Lions were in control the whole game.

[@chopin1975-tq3gx]

@@Motor-City_Ben-Diesel they won by a field goal at the end of the game

[@giuseppecorso2818]

I don't think this Justin guy knows wtf he's talking about. Lamar has better receivers and King Henry behind him Saquan only has 2 more rushing tds than Josh Allen. The Eagles were a great team before Saquan too. Josh Allen is the MVP.

[@anandnathan6851]

Coach blew it last week kissing up to the Packers.

[@tonecapone4049]

Why Jared Goff's perfect game doesn't get brought up like the six touchdown game by Josh Allen? Is it not impressive doing something that's never been done? Nobody has even mentioned the six receivers that caught 5 passes from Jared that also has never been done

[@camerondent5222]

Also, Goff is the only QB in history to have 2 games with a perfect passer rating.

[@kclark8080]

Recency bias! Plus, they like that Allen can run.

[@AricThompson-u3p]

​@camerondent5222 Lamar jackson has 4 games with a perfect passer rating, 2 came in the same season.... and I'm a Bills fan and I know this...

[@chopin1975-tq3gx]

because goff is on an amazing team.... the bills werent supposed to make the playoffs and werent favorites to win the division

[@AricThompson-u3p]

Let's not forget Goff throwing 5 picks in one game .... that's talent

[@MB-xq9hu]

Grudens are Football, we can't have a league without those two gentlemen!

[@berniebrooks3380]

Hey Goofy what happen to GB over THE LIONS...HUH?

[@chopin1975-tq3gx]

The narrative surrounding goff to somehow be mvp is absolutely insane; theres like 10-15 quarterbacks in the NFL that can do what hes doing on that stacked lions roster

[@Sheamu5]

Fair enough, maybe 10, I think a lot of the younger QBs would struggle in their system, there's so much that Goff does pre-snap to get the team in an advantageous play.

[@Sheamu5]

The Lions D is still one of the top Ds in the league with the injuries, the secondary is healthy, and we've picked up some hungry guys to fill in. Allen can have the mvp, Lions get the dub

[@georgeanthony8999]

Lamar Jackson MVP... YOUR A JOKE...

[@jimjohnson9808]

The Lions record in their last 40 games is 32-8.

[@bradpirochta9293]

Lions fan here. I don't think Goff deserves MVP. Goff has Ben Johnson and the surest-handed receiving corp... certainly Amon Ra and LaPorta. It's paint by numbers for him. He's really accurate and great presnap, but Detroit has too many great players for any one of them to get the MVP award.

[@Djturnt]

Huh we’ve done that because of goff

[@rickjames4434]

who cares about mvp - sb is what matters - lions a team not a 1 trick pony

[@I_Am_L_3]

Trash fan

[@thomasblock1164]

Don't discount Lions receivers sure handedness being somewhat attributed to Goff "keeping them safe." Agree, though. We don't need no stinkin individual awards. Just that one team award.

[@curtistheobald1619]

Love the podcast. You guys are funny and talk about X’s and O’s- real football talk. I’m a Pat mcafee fan, therefore AQ Shipley also, but PMS content doesn’t always have NFL substance, rather instead, acquisitions and rumour based content

[@CleanPocketUD]

Thanks for watching, we appreciate the support!

[@robertcorsini4399]

I think Jared Goff is underrated because he is one part of an entourage of great players in that offence. Because Jared does not have to do it all, he is overlooked in the MVP conversation. The only people who are upset about Jared not being talked about more in the MVP conversation are LIONS fans. Jared could care less.

[@lek116]

Lamar Jackson hasn’t been in the MVP convo in weeks lmao take Lamar and Saquon off their teams and how do their teams do? Okay how about taking Allen off the Bills? It’s not even close 😂

[@Tdp12345]

“OKAY STATSLUT” lmao

[@paulwalker4772]

Looking forward to a great game, both teams have great offenses.

[@CleanPocketUD]

We want fireworks!

[@mikedrop1519]

I fucking love the Gruden brothers

[@alexmajano5081]

So stupid “Lamar has better stats across the board” if stats won the MVP then Lamar wouldn’t have won 2. If you want to go stats alone let’s go Burrow? That’s not how it works it’s amazing how likable Josh Allen is, monster athlete etc but amongst the league and football guys he gets so much hate. You want to compare stats, let’s compare rosters. Then we can talk stats. Who does Josh Allen have? Before the season started what did everyone say? Lucky if they get to the playoffs. Will not win the division. 8 or 9 wins max. Josh Allen took this team to the playoffs 5 weeks before the season is over in a rebuild year. No Chase, Higgins, Henry, AJ Brown as a wideout and a monster o-line the list keeps going!!! Oh yea he got Amari Cooper before the trade deadline but Coopers targets didn’t increase until after they wrapped the division. It’s clear as day that he is the MVP but year after year people find a reason to hate. The funny thing is now they can’t even say “yea he has over 40 touchdowns and a winning record but he has too many turnovers”

[@browneyedgirlgb]

Exactly!!! Before the season, everyone counted the Bills out because they lost so many guys., lately I've actually been hearing people say that Josh is playing well BECAUSE of who he is students surrounded with.🤔 Like... What??

[@nicolaswalsh5651]

Exactly if that were the case, which I think is kind of valid, Allen should’ve won last year. But going off of how they did it last year it has to be Allen no question

[@CapAmer24]

Josh Allen Set 12 NFL records in the rams games. Superman= MVP

[@easyox77]

Jarod Goff is the MVP! 6 different receivers getting 5 passes a piece oh and the perfect game 158 oh and the 50 burgers

[@donbur1553]

Who is Jarod?

[@Drcarlsosb]

Great analysis guys

[@CleanPocketUD]

Appreciate you watching and supporting the channel!

[@cathyswafford9323]

Golf,Jackson,Barkley seem to have more “ support “ than does Allen. Individual accolades in a team sport , always tough to call ! What an interesting post season to look forward too ! If Buffalo get in the bowl…I say Allen hands down

[@claylarson3021]

Go Lions! and Colt it's great the see that Longhorns Helmet on your desk!

[@CleanPocketUD]

Always gotta rep! Hook'Em

[@anandnathan6851]

I like the Bills but they have had a soft schedule in a poor division. They would be struggling in the NFC North.

[@jcZo23]

They wouldn't cuz they'd have the best QB in the division & would have built a different roster cuz of the div they were in.. Allen would own that division too

[@Lions1986]

@@jcZo23 no, he wouldnt

[@jcZo23]

@Lions1986 yes, he 1 trillion % would, by an extremely wide margin actually

[@thomasalexander8581]

@@jcZo23 Bills have only beaten two teams above .500 and all three of their losses are on the road to teams over .500.

[@bigmike-ip8bn]

​@thomasalexander8581 and the bills beat kc who no 1 can end that discussion

[@rickthomas3970]

The key to this game is the 3rd quarter Lions need to do better coming out of half time..If they want to win these big games

[@margcan]

Can you imagine if Patrick mahomes had one of these offensive lines?There would be no competition

[@dudeabides23]

He sounds just like Chucky 😂

[@chopin1975-tq3gx]

Allen is going to have to score 60 touchdowns and have 0 interceptions in a season to win the MVP

[@BrianGilbert-r8j]

What position gets paid the most. enough said!!

[@miked2445]

I hope Jay picks against again this week. Worked out well for us against the Pack😂

[@CleanPocketUD]

Hate to disappoint but Jay is team Lions this week!

[@miked2445]

@@CleanPocketUD We pick up and drop off passengers on this vehicle all the time. I understand. Im keeping my job as the driver tho.

[@Buffalo_Sports]

Take Josh off the Bills they dont win...name 1 wideout? Name 1 rb? That dude that doesn't know football AT ALL saying Lamar and Saquon 1st. That dude was a Josh Allen hater coming out of the draft so like i said he DOESN'T KNOW FOOTBALL

[@Djturnt]

People always say that but if you didn’t have Allen your offense would be different and needs would be different they brought in guys that have baller this year it’s not just Allen passing to himself yall won multiple games with him throwing 100 yards too

[@SuperTrustFall]

Amari Cooper, Shakir, Coleman. Cook and Davis. What's your point?

[@stationexp1]

Two solid teams Two teams focused on this season while the rest of the teams spend their time planning the end zone celebration like 5 year olds on peewee teams and the coaches on what the officials will let them get away with pick plays for recievers. Back in the day it was ruled illegal to even do a high five because the ( Commanders)" then the redskins were beating everyone and the head of the competition committee was the Giants owner. The pick play was illegal too.

[@jcZo23]

LamarRB probably doesn't even win hIs division & plays on an Allstar team, Allens career numbers dwarf & embarrass LamarRB's, hes out, Barkley isn't doing anything that Henry isn't doing right now or what he did in 2019/2020 or what McCaffrey did last year & neither won mvp so.. Allen's been the best player in ball since 2020

[@1Ctbillsfan]

Bills get the ball last , win a shootout 34-31... Go Bills !! MVP JA17 !! #tamethelions !!💯🤟😎

[@thomasalexander8581]

(1) Bills have only beat 2 teams above .500. (2) All three of the Bills losses are on the road to teams above .500. (3) Lions have a +15 margin of win at home to Buffalo +3 on the road. (4) Bills run defense ranks 19th in the NFL and are giving up 130 yards a game when they are away / Detroit is averaging 154 yards per game at home. (5) Buffalo ranks 29th in opponent comp % when away. Detroit ranks #2 in passing at home. (6) Buffalo averaging 27 pts per game away / Detroit averaging 35 points per game at home #1 in the NFL. Lions 36 - Bills 28.

[@rickjames4434]

could not beat la - no way you come into detroit and win LOL

[@andregreen6574]

You are going to regret saying that Let’s Go Lions 🦁

[@peterjohnson1734]

@@rickjames4434 They play in a dome, it's not a particularly scary or difficult place to play. (No overused acronym needed)

[@rickjames4434]

@@peterjohnson1734 the dome is not the concern - dome or snow lions are a better team - philly is a 1 trick pony - not much of a passing attack or much of a quarterback - you're a good team just not good enough

[@angelovboss3922]

Goff is the best quarterback in the NFL

[@andregreen6574]

Jared Goff Jared Goff etc etc

[@DropZone33]

Goff has more more weapons and first round draft picks around him but Josh Allen is doing it with less talent. Josh Allen is the best quarterback in the NFL and it's not even close! 💪🏈

[@margcan]

How

[@Coolhandchris5]

Before I even watch this. I gotta say gruden seems like a Lions hater so we'll see what he has to say about this game

[@CleanPocketUD]

Gruden LOVES the NFC north, just picked against them last week

[@mariasv6308]

I can't subscribe until I see that backrub ; )

[@CleanPocketUD]

This is as fair a reason as we have seen thus far

[@I_Am_L_3]

Jared goff is mvp and its not close. Sorry but allen hasnt done what goff has this season. Nor has lamar jackson. Goff breaking nfl records left and right

[@AricThompson-u3p]

Goff is not breaking records left and right, Allen is. Allen has most TD's in first 5 years of a career, most TD's in first 6 years of a career, and already set the record for most TD's in first 7 years of a career and this year isn't over yet. By next season he will set the record for most rushing TD's by a QB. He has already passed oj Simpson and Terrell Davis in rushing TD's. Only QB since the merger to have 3 throwing and 3 rushing TD's in the same game. Has the record for most games with at least 2 TD's and a rushing TD. One shy of the record for games with 2 passing and 2 rushing TD's. 5 straight seasons with at least 40 TD's, another record. Check your facts bro...

[@I_Am_L_3]

@AricThompson-u3p did josh allen have a perfect game w 0 incompletions or complete 5 passes to 6 different receivers? No. Goff did. Nobody else has ever done that. Nor have they had multiple perfect passer ratings in a one season. Goff has. Oh great. Josh allen has rushing records. I prefer my qb to have wins and throwing records. And goff has most yards since 2017 for any qb in the league

[@AricThompson-u3p]

@I_Am_L_3 having the most yards doesn't always mean team success. A lot of the time the losing quarterback will have more yards because they are trying to catch up. TD's matter and since Josh has come into the league no one has more. Buffalo also is 2nd to only the Chiefs in wins over the past 5 years. If it wasn't for bad d and coaching at the end of games, Bills would be even better.

[@I_Am_L_3]

@AricThompson-u3p yeah thats fine. But THIS season goff is playing better than allen by far. Hes broken more meaningful passing records.

[@dancorn3422]

You guys ate stupid , good ole Gruden-ism for ya !

[@Honestly__now]

Goff is better than all of them. ….Lamar is all sugar no protein. Empty calories

[@browneyedgirlgb]

No he's not. 😂😭 He's a good QB surrounded by an amazing team. And I really like the guy!

[@tombray3169]

Bills aways choke in the playoffs we will see if it happens again this year

[@easyox77]

Hey Bills you’re about to get spanked!

[@I_Am_L_3]

Jay gruden said packers would beat the lions last week lmfao...

[@browneyedgirlgb]

Bills are better than Packers.

[@I_Am_L_3]

@browneyedgirlgb for sure. Not that packers arent good either tho...just kinda ragging on jay gruden for picking against my lions is all

[@CleanPocketUD]

Jay is an NFC North man through and through this year, those divisional games get him so conflicted!

[@I_Am_L_3]

@@CleanPocketUD hell yeah. Appreciate the show

[@JustRovingAround_Disco]

Lamar Jackson.?. is this guy serious.. lol..

[@leoprzybylowicz8602]

lamar lost to the browns and steelers hes a bum doesnt deserve mvp

[@erinmobley168]

Please, you people with these talk shows, Please learn how to pronounce [layers names.

[@DetroitLions59]

Lions 45 Bills 30

[@browneyedgirlgb]

😂🤣😂

[@CleanPocketUD]

We'd sign up for a high scoring game like this!

[@jamesburruano4174]

Pugh is really stupid.