*"For you, the day I beat you at that tournament, was the most important moment of your life. But for me... it was Tuesday."*
@jordanloux38832 жыл бұрын
Fun fact, this actually was also the most important day of Stan's life. The creator says that the fight against Alex was the only tournament match he ever won.
@lolrus5555 Жыл бұрын
@@jordanloux3883 hmmm... interesting to hear. Really makes me wonder what Stan's thoughts on Alex are as a result, as well as how he'd feel about this rematch if his Win-Loss ratio is as abysmal in wasteland fights as they are in tournament fights.
@frend1220 Жыл бұрын
@@lolrus5555if his win ratio is negative in wasteland fights he’s dead
@Bullboy_Adventures10 ай бұрын
That would honestly hurt more than literally any other insult stan could say to alex
@gregger_mcgregger6 ай бұрын
@@Bullboy_AdventuresGod that could also make Stan such a good minor antagonist too. Like the guy knows that that tournament was equally important to him as it was to Alex, but he’s way too bitter and purposefully MANIPULATES and screws with Alex and his failures.
@ignitor39245 жыл бұрын
+Fluid +Protected (Cup)
@inaccurategameplay57664 жыл бұрын
"Oh god Joel, he knew"
@eeeeee83175 ай бұрын
@@inaccurategameplay5766OH I GET IT! Trick kick!!
@floydwabag9 ай бұрын
I can see the fight being extremely difficult and being something Alex insists on doing alone, either having the option to cheat and kick him in the groin, or struggle to maintain HP and SP and use the major iris, beating him would probably be extremely poetic for Alex
@lukevankleef42452 жыл бұрын
Imagine if, if you get Stan at low enough health, he'll get desperate and kicks Alex in the nuts.
@lolrus5555 Жыл бұрын
Oh, that'd be a perfect hourglass plot, especially if he went into the fight cocky/confident he'd beat Alex again.
@rando5638 Жыл бұрын
@@lolrus5555 Bonus points if you refrained from using the cheap shot and lost the fight fairly instead of being DQed. Proof that even though Stan was the better combatant back then, when he's placed in the same spot you were all those years ago he resorted to dirty tactics where Alex kept his honour.
@lolrus5555 Жыл бұрын
@@rando5638several months late, but as someone that pointedly refrained from trick kicking Stan to ensure Alex went down with at least _some_ modicum of dignity, I love the way you summed all this up and sincerely hope it happens whenever Fool's Gold comes out.
@charlesatanasio16 күн бұрын
Something to think about: all martial arts were developed by amatures.
@Shinigami131335 жыл бұрын
"The difference here, is that this isn't a competition" *Alex kicks him in the groin* "so there is no cheating"
@windflier16845 жыл бұрын
If Alex did this in their rematch, it's kind of disappointed since Alex seems to learn nothing but cheaty move to break Stan's defence.
@uneasypete91084 жыл бұрын
i know im a year later but there is a move unlocked at lvl12 called major iris that break stances and do 800 or so damage, maybe you need to that to beat the fluid stance from Stan
@reubenbailey74914 жыл бұрын
"just like old times" "that's all you have to say?" *Battle starts*
@orangejuice93964 жыл бұрын
MAJOR IRIS HIS BALLS!
@lordxalasa6534 жыл бұрын
well the rules in the competition stated that no hitting when you're opponent is in the ground
@francescofigueroa59506 жыл бұрын
What would win? A wizened martial arts master Or A kick to the groin
@sentryman28116 жыл бұрын
Francesco Figueroa kick to the groin
@bulletkin76455 жыл бұрын
A yeetus deletus to the balls
@Sub-rz8pb3 жыл бұрын
the virgin aikido vs the chad post-apocaliptic velvet fu
@garrettoliva51545 жыл бұрын
Competitor throws Alex! Alex is reminded of his failure! *+Depression* Joel gives Alex a helping hand! *-Fallen* *-Depression*
@supremeulousboi46285 жыл бұрын
Garrett Oliva first of all that would be cool af if it did happen
@ImFangzBro5 жыл бұрын
_If Joel's relationship value is high enough_ Competitor throws Alex! ...Or at least, he tries! _Competitor_ *-67* *-Fluid* *+Stagnant* _Alex_ *-Dodged* *+Vendetta* Alex Velvet Style Kung-Fu! ASAS *_-339_* *-111* *-117* *_-342_* Alex is being ridiculous! *-243* *-243* *-243* *-243* *-243*
@glarchive72965 жыл бұрын
@@ImFangzBro How does that work, does joel shoot Stan in the leg or does he give him a piggy back ride.
@ImFangzBro5 жыл бұрын
@@glarchive7296 No, Alex learned a better roll dodge from Joel. He doesn't get the "Off-Balance" effect from it. Using that prompts the scenario I described.
@glarchive72965 жыл бұрын
@@ImFangzBro so he gets younger by leeching off joel's youth
@BoostedBonobo1015 жыл бұрын
I think one of the coolest parts of this is seeing the massive change to his overall stance. He went from cocky and offensive focused to something that seems well rounded and calmer. All the while Stan's stance is the same perfectly balanced stance from many years ago.
@ImFangzBro5 жыл бұрын
And that's why Stan would lose. Edvinas drew up some stat cards, showing that Alex now has better stats in every category, except Endurance, than Stan did when they first fought. Since Stan has clearly learned nothing, as shown by his unchanged stance, his stats are likely still the same.
@BoostedBonobo1015 жыл бұрын
@@ImFangzBro I wouldn't count on it. Alex swapping stances is not only due to the fact that he isn't a cocky showoff but also do to his build now. Stan having the same stance can be a dangerous sign as well when you think about it. It could show that he has yet to find anything wrong with his style yet or it could me he's honed it and perfected his own style to the point that he finds any other stance to be inferior to his own. That is not to say he hasn't improved it just means he has a working core style and simply built off of it. I still think Alex would come out on top but I do think it would be one close ass fight.
@ImFangzBro5 жыл бұрын
@@BoostedBonobo101 And yet there _is_ something wrong with it, as shown by how Alex's stats exceed Stan's now.
@aasdkoaskdasddad65154 жыл бұрын
P
@parkeypence59744 жыл бұрын
I hadn't thought about it before you said something but how close is Stan's stance to Arnold's boxer stance?
@HandyMark6 жыл бұрын
I could see Alex asking Joel to sit this one out, or I could be totally wrong, but that'd still be interesting.
@ejthenobody6 жыл бұрын
Same actually. Now what if, Stan party member?
@ejthenobody6 жыл бұрын
@@BillsAhoy Yeah! That'd be really cool!
@yoyhue16786 жыл бұрын
@@BillsAhoy is this confirm?????????
@supremeulousboi46286 жыл бұрын
@@BillsAhoy oh shit theres a discord for this what is it
@plumpo40475 жыл бұрын
Could someone send a link?
@calvinjessen69606 жыл бұрын
doing this fight but having the game do split second flash backs to the original fight would be realy cool
@fosterwhite79525 жыл бұрын
Fernando Jose I have a Theory that the competitor was using joy. Dr Yado was probably testing Joy On Martial Artists I mean why else would he be there?
@WoodDavers5 жыл бұрын
@@fosterwhite7952 that would make sense regarding the fact that he can shrug off kicks to the dick
@dummus4 жыл бұрын
That would be pretty hard to program on RPG maker but it sounds awesome
@aynpain4 жыл бұрын
*Alex losing control*
@IRmightynoob4 жыл бұрын
@@WoodDavers I mean. They wear dick guards in martial art tournaments.
@sirrealism73005 жыл бұрын
I find it interesting how Alex's fighting stance changes as he gets older. Most likely due to his encounter with Stan and the wisdom he gained from it.
@lolrus5555 Жыл бұрын
Also indicates that while he'll likely never be on the level of Painful's beastlike characters like Brad, Rando, Buzzo, Buddy, and the Warlords, that Alex has turned a formerly bullshit martial art like Velvet-Fu into a legitimate means of fighting.
@ImFangzBro5 жыл бұрын
What if Stan _could_ be beaten, through the one thing that is never pointless? If you're good enough friends with Joel, he'll give you an upgrade to the roll dodge move, which causes Alex to look more agile when he uses it, and also doesn't leave him off-balance, and if you use that as your opener against Stan, he'll respond with a throw... and not just miss completely, but actually get _countered,_ because you're smooth like velvet now. Friendship might not be able to work a physical miracle, but it can certainly give you the means to.
@Kajenko5 жыл бұрын
yo I love this
@zeetwei4 жыл бұрын
That's absolutely fuckin sick
@galaxy-eb9sp4 жыл бұрын
+confused stan cant understand why his move didint work
@Beltboy3 жыл бұрын
@@dibbybones2194 What?
@fernandoj84793 жыл бұрын
You don't really need Joel's help. Full Force would set him off balance and break Stan's stance
@alexis_electronic2 жыл бұрын
*Taste of Flesh* (AAD) Use your misshapen teeth to tear them apart. Takes Fluid enemies off guard. Heals 50 HP.
Wow like 100% correct. "Over-confident teen in black gi gets ass kicked in karate tournament by one in a white gi. Years later, two meet up again as bitter old men, one living a garbage life and the other pretty well off by the looks of it. Two end up throwing hands once again."
@mrraziel43984 жыл бұрын
the Lisa series ability to pout so must emotion and thematic's into its fights without compromising game play is truly staggering.
@somerandomfatguy73655 жыл бұрын
A fan made track for a fan made game
@zeetwei4 жыл бұрын
Some random fat Guy and don’t even get into Lisa: the pointless phone crew.
@NileFive3 жыл бұрын
@@zeetwei A fan game to a fan game to a sequel to a fan game
@floppalover39073 жыл бұрын
@@zeetwei Well, that fan-game is now sooo dead
@felim37183 жыл бұрын
@@floppalover3907 no del todo
@radarlovelizard6 жыл бұрын
There's nothing wrong other than the fact that the drop could use a hell of a lot more oomph. Pretty damn nice other than that, though
@UmbreonFlash5 жыл бұрын
If Alex let's revenge cloud his mind, he won't stand a chance against him.
@jvukovic42 жыл бұрын
It would be cool to see that in this horrid city, two guys have an honourable bout just for old times sake.
@mikomicho97723 жыл бұрын
it would be a big shock if he can catch the thrown bottles by joel and throw them back
@BrokenSword19783 жыл бұрын
that sounds awesome
@mikomicho97723 жыл бұрын
@@BrokenSword1978 this would cancel joel's usefulness and make the aikido dude a very VERY powerful opponent
@fluorideinthechat76062 жыл бұрын
Joel throws an Empty Bottle! Stan Curien catches it and throws it back! -1,138 Joel is down! “Stay out of this one, cowboy.” Alex is enraged!
@mikomicho97722 жыл бұрын
@@fluorideinthechat7606 perfect
@Mowmann Жыл бұрын
would pay to see stan curien throw it back
@theequalizer6945 жыл бұрын
"Stand down Joel" "Why?" "This is personal."
@Bullboy_Adventures7 ай бұрын
Something isnt right: no matter what you do, the outcome always stays the same Fluid: now you stand a fighting chance, and things just got intense
@juanignaciomora57465 жыл бұрын
That sprite makes me think that Stan was the owner of the mansion in the autumn forest
@juanignaciomora57464 жыл бұрын
@sub 2 Larry idk, they look (to me at least) like some kind of fancy coat
@michaellatner9754 жыл бұрын
It'd be cool that at the start he would get fluid like the first fight, however it'd be more of a 50% chance to dodge instead of a 100% since Lucky has been training and gotten way better at hitting things, as well as not being so hot headed and rushing into the fight
@fernandoj84793 жыл бұрын
It'd be better if Fluid worked like in the flashback but Full Force, which sets enemies off balance thus breaking their stances, was able to hit while fluid. It would show Alex's improvement and how he's fleshed out his repertoire of moves to deal with agile oponents
@fatalfractal12986 жыл бұрын
Alex finally confront the one who he has lost to and it's now time for him to prove himself once again through his journey is he have what it takes to defeat him.
@davinhintz77866 жыл бұрын
Fatal Fractal dude he is like a party member in chapter 2
@fatalfractal12986 жыл бұрын
Davin Hintz who the guy in The Karate uniform in chapter 2 sounds unbelievable I do not think the developers will take some time to add another party member to lisa the pointless.
@davinhintz77866 жыл бұрын
Fatal Fractal dude r even at the Lisa the Pointless discord in chapter 2 fool’s gold u will pick a side the neon flamingos or the EPS if u picked Nf u get Tom and if u picked EPS u get Stan as a party member also Jason pike will join ur party
@daltonbecker44946 жыл бұрын
Who is Tom?
@davinhintz77866 жыл бұрын
Dalton Becker Tom is a new party member if u picked the Neon flamingos
@Miguelnumbers5 жыл бұрын
"Stay out of this, Joel..." "Lucky, what do you mean? Is this guy related to you or something?" "Let's just say that this is personal... there's no giving up this time"
@fackingcant65284 жыл бұрын
"Maximum CBT this time"
@martinpachu71254 жыл бұрын
@@fackingcant6528 OH NO
@GregoryMom3 жыл бұрын
@@fackingcant6528 >Last Iris on nuts
@NotACutie6 жыл бұрын
Impact should've been harder than alex hitting the mat after being tossed.
@gmantellinboom80716 жыл бұрын
Kinda surprised with the other comments, I actually like this way more then Something isn't right and Busting the dojo.
@liljerry58366 жыл бұрын
hoff
@Pudding4044 күн бұрын
It's been 40 years since the day that flipped Alex's life on it's head, and despite all that, I don't see this as a fight with high stakes. My version of Alex didn't use trick kick, especially now. It isn't about winning, it's about Alex getting clarity to the most important day of his life. Alex is old, he lived his life, the only opinion that should matter is his own in this very moment. I cannot put into words how incredible Alex is as a character, relatable positively and negatively to many people, people who have lived an unfullfilling life, and people who grow and move on as a person with age.
@tarachnavore16716 жыл бұрын
This has a martial arts kind of feel to it at the beginning and i like it. Subbed
@electricrush22335 жыл бұрын
Tavener 1 Same
@LolaTheGardevoir Жыл бұрын
Imagine this fight but during it Alex hallucinates and it turns into his tournament competition, but the referee isn’t there
@LUXAETERNA44 жыл бұрын
SPOILER about Stan Curien He is going to return in the 2 chapter, and he will be a potential ally, but he is extremely different physically, and he remembers Alex well, because it was the only round he won in the tournament.
@jordanloux38832 жыл бұрын
I like that. I don't see any reason why they would be enemies. Alex might be bitter, but he's older and wiser and knows to not hold the tournament against this guy.
@TripleAy6 жыл бұрын
Oh man how I wish this was in the final game... grown up alex and stan fighting
@whaleshey6 жыл бұрын
chapter 2
@addalittleviolence3 жыл бұрын
@@whaleshey not really maybe, stan is shown as a chapter 2 party member for one of the routes
@felim37183 жыл бұрын
@@addalittleviolence me pasas el discord pls?
@Vi3Voide2 жыл бұрын
@@addalittleviolence it could be that he joins your party after beating him
@dani.2479 Жыл бұрын
@@addalittleviolence FUCK! JUST LET US FIGHT THE COWARD
@Komiser_88 Жыл бұрын
This could be the real "Old Friend" OST
@darthvato243 жыл бұрын
This is a certified +Fluid Moment. You have our respect.
@Pudding4043 жыл бұрын
This is so epic, can we foot uppercut an akido user in the Groin
@brb_yea3 жыл бұрын
I have a question if Alex takes damange from the minor iris and the goat kick, what about the competeitor ¿it can do the akido stance?
@headofsecurity14784 жыл бұрын
For some reason I want some sort of fangame for Stan He doesn't really need one, just thought it'd be cool to use him and his passive style against jerseyheads
@dani.2479 Жыл бұрын
imagine him vs arnold, just. **Arnold punches** **Stan reflects**
@DeezNuts-uk9bd Жыл бұрын
@@dani.2479and it goes on for too long because of Stan's low damage throws and arnold's inability to land hits
@TrulyBS-QJ Жыл бұрын
this banger randomly popped in my head.
@cringeclown40874 жыл бұрын
So excited for when this happens in Chapter 2.
@carlitos44773 жыл бұрын
yes but you will have to wait 4 years
@biker_buckets36293 жыл бұрын
@@carlitos4477 better to wait for 4 years than say waiting for when ever the fuck it’s gonna come out I.e yandere simulator
@cementchewer2 жыл бұрын
@@biker_buckets3629 wait does that mean it's 3 years now
@AgentMk07 Жыл бұрын
Aw mate this didn't age well
@JaimePT2 ай бұрын
Hey bro, your still waiting for the chapter?
@MrSceptile7684 жыл бұрын
I like how the music uses VST's that sound a lot older intrumentation wise showing both of these competitors have aged quite a big from their previous fight in the torneyment, they have classier tastes.
@cringeclown40875 жыл бұрын
Yo this is badass!
@weedlol5 жыл бұрын
Stan did nothing wrong
@Allahsword2265 жыл бұрын
i really hope that he will become a party member
@nonamelel15725 жыл бұрын
You can get him as one if you get in a certain path, I think.
@corazonvibrante6 жыл бұрын
Pretty Nice song. I kinda like more this version of Stan than the official one.
@MsRazor21124 жыл бұрын
i dunno why i always thought arnold sphitz is stan,they got similar a similar stance but arnorld is way more agressive because of all the horrible events that happened and the ominous way he says he’s“no one in particular” was him basically hinting he is stan.
@NileFive4 жыл бұрын
They have completely different names, And the point of the "No one in particular" is supposed to be play in with the fact the franchises removes identity, And they have completely different statures and faces, And different fighting styles (Arnold is boxing not karate or whatever)
@fernandoj84793 жыл бұрын
@@NileFive Stan's an Aikido practicioner, which is a martial art that's mainly defensive. Nothing to do with boxing as you've pointed out.
@michealwaters72824 жыл бұрын
Why does he still expose his groin?
@Ceblet4 жыл бұрын
+Fluid +Protected(Cup)
@michealwaters72824 жыл бұрын
I imagine because he's older fluid decreases it's chance to dodge
@JAMCAKESJAMCAKES6 жыл бұрын
This is so sad, Can we eat food?
@deeznuts-kw6yv5 жыл бұрын
Kristy Boye communism: NO
@JAMCAKESJAMCAKES5 жыл бұрын
@@deeznuts-kw6yv Got it
@deeznuts-kw6yv5 жыл бұрын
Kristy Boye communism: good now go to gulag for no reason whatsoever
@plumpo40475 жыл бұрын
My opinion of this song: I really like the beginning and how it repurposes Busting the Dojo, but I feel like it should have been the main ‘thing’ if the song, like a remix. The ‘something doesn’t feel right’ portion is ok but needs a bigger kick to it. But overall I love the song, keep it up!
@mikomicho97723 жыл бұрын
damn the velvet-fu guy is now having a rematch after 30-40 years with aikido man
@fernandoj84793 жыл бұрын
aikido man
@mikomicho97723 жыл бұрын
@@fernandoj8479 ah here i am realizing it after who knows how long? thanks for the info
@SoreLoserKishkiXD3 жыл бұрын
Not 10 years
@mikomicho97723 жыл бұрын
@@SoreLoserKishkiXD how much?
@SoreLoserKishkiXD3 жыл бұрын
@@mikomicho9772 30-40
@a.atlant52003 жыл бұрын
Alex:tu me jodiste la vida.... ahora me toca quitartela
@Beltboy4 жыл бұрын
He should be vulnerable to damage after being focused pn a Party Member (e.g Stan using a move on Joel)
@dani.2479 Жыл бұрын
just like somebody else said: minor iris shreds defense, (but heres my addition) *Why not stances as well?*
@BiggestCheeser4 жыл бұрын
Looking at Old Stans actual sprite I gotta say. The rematch might not be as cool as we’re thinking...
@carlitos44773 жыл бұрын
no if it will be great
@xX-Sneezyanus69XD420MLG-Xx3 жыл бұрын
He looks like a little goblin man
@felim37183 жыл бұрын
@@xX-Sneezyanus69XD420MLG-Xx I need to see yaaa
@xX-Sneezyanus69XD420MLG-Xx3 жыл бұрын
@@felim3718 you really dont
@felim37183 жыл бұрын
@@xX-Sneezyanus69XD420MLG-Xx I still need to see it do you have discord or some means or do you have the link of the official server?
@arksmarks54926 жыл бұрын
1.5x sounds better
@OddishsTUFF6 жыл бұрын
Rex Lucem Good God. He’s right.
@XortSince19996 жыл бұрын
its better the 2x sound speed
@supremeulousboi46286 жыл бұрын
oh shizzle for rizzle
@XortSince19996 жыл бұрын
@@supremeulousboi4628 okno XD its for mthese say more its better :v
@vamp55735 жыл бұрын
Maybe Alex meets Stan again. And then proceeds to beat the shit out of him.
@noryenriquez9124 жыл бұрын
Alex:joel! My pizza
@thecoolcatsproductions80346 жыл бұрын
probably thats the sprite prediction but we never know
@hairyballbastic89436 жыл бұрын
probably.. big mystery..
@davinhintz77866 жыл бұрын
the cool cats productions dude the sprite has already leaked just go to the Pointless discord
@Beltboy4 жыл бұрын
The sprite has the same design with the Stan on this one. Except he's really large and has an intimidating smile on his face. Though he kept his personality from when he was still a competitor.
@Beltboy4 жыл бұрын
@MMemeMann By really large I mean muscular. And his face was confirmed to have been "fucked up beyond comprehension"
@charlesatanasio16 күн бұрын
Something to think about: all martial arts were developed by amatures.
@kiesarisunny134 жыл бұрын
+Fluid
@brb_yea3 жыл бұрын
*Alex kicks in the groin*
@abox1209 Жыл бұрын
Extended version when??
@Warlord4HikageАй бұрын
I wonder if he will abuse Fluid again
@dr.insignia73613 жыл бұрын
How did Ed make Alex so damn expressive?
@timothywilcox15392 жыл бұрын
Eyes help.
@dr.insignia73612 жыл бұрын
@@timothywilcox1539 well other than that
@Kacp3rrak4 жыл бұрын
Please 'o please, let this be in Chapter 2
@carlitos44773 жыл бұрын
yes ,wait 4 years
@felim37183 жыл бұрын
@@carlitos4477 y reza para que no se cancele......... Si se cancelo el cap 2 :(
@Arverjo3 жыл бұрын
@@felim3718 No, hay una hoja de sprites hecha para fools gold y aparece Stan Curien
@moonielivee48363 жыл бұрын
@@Arverjo Entonces no se canceló?
@Arverjo3 жыл бұрын
@@moonielivee4836 No, estan haciendo un remake del capitulo 1, y Ed en su canal de youtube en el video modern day ouroboros dice que no se cancelo
@postman65534 жыл бұрын
so kickasss
@noryenriquez9123 жыл бұрын
I think that is a alex clone battle
@pollf1007 ай бұрын
insanely hard
@justzuriel71514 жыл бұрын
I just noticed something the guy with the orange belt thing is doing judo how do I know because he has the grip also he does throws only
@blakethesnake66864 жыл бұрын
It's Aikido, actually
@dibbybones21944 жыл бұрын
Is More like aikido because aikido Is fully pasifist and he don't attack atleast you attacked him and even when someone know aikido normally the attacks aré almost all for trow you're oponent
@fernandoj84793 жыл бұрын
It's aikido and it's not hard to figure out. On the flashback scene it literally says "Stan adopts an Aikido Stance" in the action text box when he gets the fluid status effect
@carlitos44773 жыл бұрын
Revenge
@jvukovic46 жыл бұрын
This is dope
@hellonokay19255 жыл бұрын
For some ice cube and this enter the realm of not coppa legal and probably clickbait thumbnails
@LuisMendez-ru7nj6 жыл бұрын
Good
@14pat786 жыл бұрын
idk my man
@DZXJR3 жыл бұрын
Is Stan gonna be with the eps?
@gatokal6 жыл бұрын
Hey, can I have a shot at this?
@whaleshey6 жыл бұрын
no...
@whaleshey6 жыл бұрын
someone help hes gonna do it this time
@glennstarguardian85 жыл бұрын
Gatokal please explain to me what the Taitoki Hole is I'm afraid to ask on the Discord
@calvinjessen69606 жыл бұрын
where is alex's nose
@theultimateknight73566 жыл бұрын
who did you remake the sprite so perfectly and what software do you use for pixel art i wanna learn but don't know where to start
@buzzlightyearpfp76414 жыл бұрын
alex changed his stance to counter stan. stan didnt. stan will lose.
@gatokal6 жыл бұрын
I genuinely like the concept, but I don’t think it’s executed well at all. Good attempt though!
@painzilla75736 жыл бұрын
you should do it bro
@gatokal6 жыл бұрын
Painzilla uhh okay
@ezequiel5432106 жыл бұрын
Luke Fraczek are you implying that you shouldn't judge other people work if you don't do what they do? because that's simply idiotic. If someone gives you a product you have all the rights to judge it based in if you enjoyed it or not
@gatokal6 жыл бұрын
It's also a dangerous opinion to hold that one cannot succeed over another. Challenge Accepted.