Lishi SC1, SC4, SC20, Lock Pick Slight Differences

[@doorandlocktips]

🔐Schlage Kwikset Sargent and Yale locks should be used on your own front door. Lock pickers and criminals Will have a hard time picking any of these locks. The only way you can stop brute forced entry is with a good surveillance camera. Subscribe to my locksmith channel to learn more.

[@doorandlocktips]

You’re welcome. I’m gonna have a lot more on just lock picking and the pics that you’re gonna need for the USA. Stay tuned. Thanks again.🎉

[@ns3v3n]

Very informative video. This helped me make up my mind on getting the sc20. Thanks!

[@doorandlocktips]

Exactly it’s as you said go ahead and pick that bad boy up it’s wonderful. No need for spacer.

[@Bob_Weasley]

just surfing through Lishi videos... bought one of these so I could find out the key cut for the roof access of my apartment building... hehehe I like to go there at night but the doors are locked so I figured instead of picking it every time i'd just get my own key. Anyways thanks for the review.

[@doorandlocktips]

That’s a great idea

[@doorandlocktips]

What is the lock the brand the style? What is it?

[@doorandlocktips]

Add a lot of tension work on the pics that you can set and the springy ones should bind. It’s going good don’t give up that pick is invincible.

[@abesvenom]

Thank you for your tip on saving some money here why buy all when one does the job i can get 2 SC20s and i am set. I am glad i am doing my research before buying this stuff

[@doorandlocktips]

@@abesvenom you’re welcome

[@odinslockllc]

I should’ve gotten the sc20 but I originally bought the sc4 and use the stand-off spacers for 5 pin locks. And I haven’t really had any problems with the sc4 tools but I do occasionally find my kw1 lishi tools will not go into some kw1 keyways. DeviantOlam did a great training vid on the sc1/4/20’s and showed some other stuff that was interesting to know. Thanks for sharing!

[@Chirael]

Yes he did, I loved that Schlage series he did, especially the lesser-known keyways 🤩

[@jmacjr84]

Where did you get stand-off spacers from?

[@doorandlocktips]

@Hawaiiarcher84 I never purchased them. I guess you’ll have to search for what you’re looking for. Spend a lot of time searching and you’ll find what you’re looking for.

[@jmacjr84]

@@doorandlocktips hello, thanks for the response i just found your channel due to me doing research on lishi tools however I was referring to the comment that odinslockllc made apparently they make some kind of shim that will allow people to use the 6pin decoder as a 5 pin? Thanks just subbed:)

[@doorandlocktips]

@@jmacjr84 oh, now I understand. Thanks for subscribing Bob over at Odins is a great guy a wealth of knowledge and he will never steer you wrong.

[@jimmy_jamesjams_a_lot4171]

THANK YOU, for your work with the multimeter {edit: Digi-calipers} (Mitutoyo!) and for your going to all the trouble to find the differences between those Lishi Keys!! I’ve found them to be fascinating marvels of mechanical machining, just by simply inspecting them with a magnifying glass. If I had to remove that pick I would’ve probably drilled out the little levering handle - only to be surprised when I couldn’t get it freed from that focal point lug within !

[@doorandlocktips]

There is astounding. It looks like they weld them as well. I just had to buy two new ones because I bent the pic. Stay tuned for that video. You should love it.

[@doorandlocktips]

I think you’ll appreciate this information. I took the liberty of dropping a link to the community post that has the hotlink on how to use lishi lock picks kzbin.infoUgkxLU3VmLk9pkEHoavopPlf0lnHEW_GaA1m?si=vW-GsZSCIObU8j4A

[@ryanbento1565]

Digital calipers not a micrometer*

[@doorandlocktips]

@@ryanbento1565 noted… thank you in the heat of battle Sometimes you get conglomerated.🙂✔️🥰👍🏻🙂🙂😍🥱🥰🥱🥱🥱🥱

[@doorandlocktips]

@@ryanbento1565 well noted

[@stuartdavison4110]

Thanks man. I really need to buy some Schlegel locks but they are not readily available in the uk. I already have the sc4 and I’m try to buy some locks. Kind regards Stuart

[@doorandlocktips]

Have fun and enjoy yourself you’re so welcome

[@doorandlocktips]

@@Rouxeashil sad thing is I went out to my truck and got my KW5 pic started picking the door the KW5 cylinder, which is nothing more than a KW1 in a 6 Pin configuration, I know more than put it in there and the door was open in swing right in swing. I stuck the pic in swung the tension bar out turn my back and the door closed snapped the pic off. I can’t hardly believe it it really is $70 worth of sadness. Now I have to buy a new one. I don’t know about the WR5 I don’t know what you’re talking about. Is that a padlock

[@joshdurbin8045]

It becomes so fun. Once you start your lock collection grows so dang fast. Just make it legal and you're golden🇺🇲💯

[@doorandlocktips]

@joshdurbin8045 Right keep it legal. It’s a sport, like model building or birdhouse building, but we lock build.

[@michaelzborovan4362]

Yea as @doorandlocktips said below those are laser welds. Not crushed or peened.

[@doorandlocktips]

You’re right

[@doorandlocktips]

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[@Chirael]

Great job on this, yeah I was wondering because I figure in order to fit in so many keyways it must be thinner and therefore more fragile, glad to hear it’s not more fragile in your experience so far. I agree if you’re on limited funds, it is the most versatile and probably the one to get first. The Red Team Tools “Lishi Standoff Spacers” are good for converting a 6-pin Schlage Lishi to 5-pin temporarily, if you’re not familiar with them. I didn’t realize Lishi sold replacement pick tips; I haven’t had one break yet but will add it to my shipping list anyway just in case. Thanks again 😊

[@odinslockllc]

Those standoffs by red team tools work great.

[@Chirael]

P.s. - nice calipers 😁

[@doorandlocktips]

Never used one

[@lililililililili8667]

​@@odinslockllcDo the spacers fit the sc20 or just the sc4?

[@doorandlocktips]

I would think both don’t you

[@nickc6351]

I purchased the SC4 and SC20. I'm trying to use the SC20 on an SC1 keyway and just cannot seem to get it open. I noticed in the video you said "once you learned to use it" it's your favorite. Any advice or tips on what I may be doing wrong?

[@doorandlocktips]

You must lubricate your cylinder and I mean heavy spray it with TriFlo and put the lightest touch you’ve ever had put to a pic. Let them fall down each pin as you’re picking that will show you that you’re too lite and as they just start to bind that’s the tension you need about the tension you put on your keypad pushing down let’s say the letter a on your keypad on your Mac computer

[@doorandlocktips]

Try lubricating it with tri flow. That’s probably what you’re doing wrong. I can’t say for sure, but you can easily pick the lock with this thing those SC1 cylinders are like not even even in your road so try lubricating it and when you pick the light tensionclockwise and try picking it that way and they counterclockwise and try picking it that way

[@nickc6351]

@@doorandlocktips Thank you very much!! I'll give it a shot and let you know if it's successful. I really appreciate the prompt response!

[@doorandlocktips]

@nickc6351 yes dude let me know. I’m thinking that will probably help tremendously.

[@nickc6351]

@@doorandlocktips I think it's pure user error at this point. It seems like when I pick pin 3 and 4 they immediately spring back. Maybe something is going on with the pins?

[@doorandlocktips]

Those might be Weld Marks

[@LockPickingCoalMiner]

Nice to see the difference thanks for Sharing

[@doorandlocktips]

You’re so welcome I thought I better check into that when someone asked the question and I’m there scratching my head and I think I should know that, especially with a pair of vernier calipers in my hand and all the parts and pieces all that’s left to do is make a video. I’m glad you enjoyed it, if you think of anything else, let me know. Thanks again.

[@johnb2044]

looking at that locking collar which holds the sliding pick with the small pin i would have one tool which if you wrecked put the tool on a milling machine and cut it till you break into that key way then you could have one tool that you could put any picks in ?

[@doorandlocktips]

Not quite following you, but the Lishi SC20 does go into everything it really does

[@doorandlocktips]

Make one send it to me and I’ll give you a review

[@johnb2044]

Hi @@doorandlocktips what are you gaining by changing out the pick if its just different lengths/ profiles and if so one modded would make how many different keys.... is it worth having an inter changeable one ... have none at moment was going to get the SC-20

[@doorandlocktips]

@@johnb2044 just get the SC20 you’ll love it nothing really to gain by having the others

[@doorandlocktips]

@@johnb2044 just buy them all you can’t go wrong www.uhs-hardware.com/products/original-lishi-residential-full-package-20-pcs-usa-market

[@thesaltineking5026]

Thank you sir for this video it was super informative and intertaining to watch

[@doorandlocktips]

You’re so welcome. I hope it helped you. They’re all great tools.

[@thesaltineking5026]

I have a quick question you might have a video about it which you could point me to, but do you think it would also be worth getting the KW5 version? @@doorandlocktips

[@doorandlocktips]

@thesaltineking5026 if I were you and you don’t work with commercial you really don’t need it but then you’ll probably need it but if someone does what I did on a KW5, adding a number seven pin, which makes it impossible for the Lishi to pick watch this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3nEZ51_m6uLkKMsi=6M8GNKaYAd38qb1K all the way through and then maybe you can make a good decision they’re only in commercial applications the KW5 but like I say if they use a number seven pin Lishi won’t fit

[@doorandlocktips]

@thesaltineking5026 check this video out too. I think you’ll like the keys better than the standard quickset key. kzbin.inforSMbKIf1GwU?si=D706LFhr74gh3cbn

[@doorandlocktips]

@@Rouxeashil I’m gonna go out and check my tools and see if you’re right on that. I’m not quite sure all we’re talking about is a six pin KW1 keyway it’s called a KW5. Let me check this out.

[@doorandlocktips]

This is all you need for the USA. Check out my list get the stuff you don’t have. kzbin.infoUgkxzKe_QKFgKSGPZQfU5Wh-r_pRlFE1Pjw6?si=ZiMFMIxg6cz3K1kn

[@SheikhItalabowt]

Im going to subscribe, but with my proper account

[@doorandlocktips]

Great idea I hope everybody follows your lead. Thank you.

[@wayneciabaszewski3173]

you wouldn't us to buy you a coffee if you didn't spend so much on the lishi tool. why pay $100 when you can buy them for $22?

[@doorandlocktips]

Too funny