Listeners To Times Radio Brexit Debate Furious With Bill Cash

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@boris1066 2 ай бұрын

It is too early to see the "true catastrophic effect of Brexit" ... but our children and grandchildren are already questioning me "why did my generation ever fall for the Brexit con" ?

@algernonwolfwhistle6351 2 ай бұрын

Some of us didn't.

@henryjohnfacey8213 2 ай бұрын

Absolutely. Greetings from Yorkshire.

@roseanncampbell3168 2 ай бұрын

I didn't. I could see those Brexit charlatans from the moon. I voted remain because I knew this would blow up in the leavers faces now all of us are suffering

@stephenconway2468 2 ай бұрын

There is a key thing that we should be concerned with and that is investment. That is the expense now for the possible future return. Brexit has wiped out a generation's investment. It will be our kids and grandkids that suffer. We can measure that impact today. Even the most optimistic assessments talk about a 6% decrease in investment since 2016 (as at 2022).

@TheHoveHeretic 2 ай бұрын

@@algernonwolfwhistle635148% who got off their backsides to vote didn't.

@lloydbelle3406 2 ай бұрын

I love the expression that EU membership was an investment in sovereignty. What a cowardly reaction by Bill Cash to the live Brexit complaints by just dismissing the complainers as Remainers.

@Geffo555 2 ай бұрын

The likes of Cash believe they are right no matter what. And think we should just be compliant serfs. They don't know how to deal with criticism or failure. Which will make election night all the more enjoyable. He won't be looking so pompous as the results come in and the blue turns red.

@ianbooth3164 2 ай бұрын

'Investment in sovereignty'. That's pretty meaningless, tbh. Ukraine could invest in its sovereignty by surrendering, for example, and didn't Vichy France share sovereignty! I don;t know about you but I wouldn't be keen with our laws being decided by an EU Parliament that's 25% AFD, Wilpers, Le Pen and host of other horrors for whom we wouldn't vote.

@lloydbelle3406 2 ай бұрын

@@ianbooth3164 Do correct me if I misinterpret your words: As you suggest an anology that the Ukraine could invest its sovereignty in Putin by surrendering to its aggressive invader, am I right in thinking that you think the EU has invaded its 27 members?

@ianbooth3164 2 ай бұрын

@@lloydbelle3406 Hmm, the youtube censor strikes again! I wrote you a long reply but it's disappeared (seems to happen quite a lot when a pro-Brexit comment is posted!). Very briefly, laws were imposed on the British people that they did not vote for and would not vote for (posted workers directive is an example that no progressive person could support). That's clearly an in infringement on sovereignty. Obviously the Ukraine analogy was hyperbolic. It's quite reasonable for people to decide for themselves what compromises they wish to make in terms of sovereignty but 52% made their choice and yet the insults thrown around in places like this are disappointing from people who probably consider themselves democrats. The degree of certainty these people have about how the future will transpire confounds me.

@Geffo555 2 ай бұрын

@@ianbooth3164 Sovereignty is pretty meaningless to most people. And utterly overhyped by the Brexit brigade. What did the EU actually stop us doing? And has the government done it since we left? And how has it benefitted us?

@wayneford2481 2 ай бұрын

If brexit was a good idea , it would be all over the tory press.

@paullarne 2 ай бұрын

Er, it is.

@terryj50 2 ай бұрын

Brexit is great it’s keeping people like you out of the eu

@paullarne 2 ай бұрын

@sambaliwingo If I did your research for you, you'd still be in denial.

@fcassmann 2 ай бұрын

@@paullarneBrexit troll alert!

@fcassmann 2 ай бұрын

@@terryj50 Close all EU borders. Enjoy your turnips. 🇪🇺🇳🇱

@dianefarnden8577 2 ай бұрын

Apart from the concept of Brexit itself, the most stupid thing is that the government did not stipulate that there had to be a substantial majority either way. There was always going to be rancour about the result. It is an indisputable fact that Brexit is causing great harm to the UK. If we don't act soon to try to improve our situation then we will truly sink into the abyss. All parties should want to get the very best deals they can for the UK. It's time that they stopped quoting honouring the referendum result as an excuse.

@therealrobertbirchall 2 ай бұрын

Camoron and his ilk in their arrogance thought they would of course win the referendum. And he they would rule the tory party and the British state for generations. But his gamble backfired and he ran away. But we are paying the price.

@jukeseyable 2 ай бұрын

they didnt need to , the referendum was "Non binding" there was no obligation on the government of the day to act on the result

@TheHoveHeretic 2 ай бұрын

That was Cameron demonstrating the value of a private education.

@ianbooth3164 2 ай бұрын

@@jukeseyable Is there any such thing as 'binding' in our system? We had the fixed-term parliament act and they simply passed a new act to repeal it. I really don't know how you could ignore 52% of the vote after saying it would be honoured and expect anything other than outrage and votes for UKIP.

@Geffo555 2 ай бұрын

@@ianbooth3164 The sovereignty of parliament allows the 52% to be ignored. The government only had to let MPs decide the issue. And the Tories did not have a large majority at the time.

@peterdollins3610 2 ай бұрын

Mike is an inspiration. I used to see him when I went down to parliament as a EU Stayer against the EU Quitters. Now I cannot for the Government of Johnson took down the Plague Unit Blair set up after Ebola (see Laurie Garrett's 'The Coming Plague' published 1994) he agreed with the Tory Backbenchers saying the old needed death. Johnson cancelled mild safety precautions in place of masks of a few feet of distance. A young woman come up to breath in my face in a shopping queue. So I had Long Covid taking 80% of my energy and strength in 2022. Now at 84 I am one of a million UK citizens dying of Long Covid. Fading out. Brexit brought catastrophe of the EU Quittiuers Brexshit but also lousy Government & £49 billion stolen from us taxpayers--everyone pays tax via VAT & so many other corruptions. Zero seats for Tories, Zero seats for Reform.

@stephenconway2468 2 ай бұрын

Take care Peter. I do hope that this is a blip and we can get past this crazy populist nonsense.

@SJG-nr8uj 2 ай бұрын

Galsworthy is a dishonest Remoaner crook, like all your other Remoaner heroes.

@JHatLpool 2 ай бұрын

Very well said, Mike Galsworthy.

@SJG-nr8uj 2 ай бұрын

Galsworthy is a dishonest Remoaner crook, like all your other Remoaner heroes.

@thehealinggame 2 ай бұрын

Hes retired after bringing our country to its k ees with his beloved Brexit. What a COWARD !

@mickyg6981 2 ай бұрын

I think he might have been very strongly advised😄Every single last Brexiteer rat knows it's a disaster, probably why King rat Farage entered the fray, the one's who have actually gained handsomely from it are terrified of any reversal.

@noelfleming3567 2 ай бұрын

Don't worry he didn't lose out on anything 😉

@bobleitch3610 2 ай бұрын

@@thehealinggame "Country to it's knees", a bit over dramatic. Who is in good shape? Eurowonderland it ain't.

@Geffo555 2 ай бұрын

@@bobleitch3610 Still trying to convince yourself that we are doing better than EU countries? Still clinging to a few juggled stats as proof. The Tories would walk the election if it really was boomtime in Brexitland. It clearly is not. More of a sewage sodden swamp than sunny uplands. And the Tories will pay for it next week.

@teesman61 2 ай бұрын

@bobleitch3610

@joea4234 2 ай бұрын

Bill cash is the most despicable, disgraceful individual-i would jail him now

@SJG-nr8uj 2 ай бұрын

Please tell us what you know about EU fiscal union, EU economic union, EU political union, the unification of member states’ armed forces under command of the European Council, the reckless expansionism of the EU across Eastern Europe, and the unfettered migration into the EU from North Africa and the Middle East, at the EU’s open invitation. It shouldn’t take you long!

@marksykes1191 Ай бұрын

Why does that matter brexit , is destroying my country & you are trying to use big words to make people think you know what you are talking about! You don’t , we need a rejoin referendum ASAP & let’s be democracy decide , the guy on here is a scientist & is explaining the science of it & I know that the hard of thinking have had it with science but unfortunately the grown ups are back in charge now !

@jackryder-sw9rk Ай бұрын

should have been jailed long ago

@SJG-nr8uj Ай бұрын

@@jackryder-sw9rk Not at all. Bill Cash is a constitutional expert who knew that signing the Lisbon Treaty by Gordon brown was unconstitutional. He and the other experts on the Tory back benches campaigned long and loud for a referendum, now that the Lisbon Treaty had redefined the terms of our membership. Cameron eventually called one, in order to give the Lisbon Treaty a retrospective legitimacy (so he could say: "It wasn't me, the British people agreed to become a federal province of the EU all by themselves). It didn't get that legitimacy, and the EU remains a giant, duplicitous, megalomaniac scam.

@jackryder-sw9rk Ай бұрын

@@SJG-nr8uj We don't have a written constitution, Brexit was a scam led by scum, I don't engage with scum, so jog on

@triffid68 2 ай бұрын

The ERG should be investigated or at the very least using Freedom of Information we should get access to the 'Research'

@lloydbelle3406 2 ай бұрын

Err.... I think you'll find that 'Research' in ERG is yet just another con. Nevertheless they should be investigated. It should not be legal that governments can delibertaely con the UK public into voting against its better interests.

@SJG-nr8uj 2 ай бұрын

I can help you with that. Please tell us what you know about EU fiscal union, EU economic union, EU political union, the unification of member states’ armed forces under command of the European Council, the reckless expansionism of the EU across Eastern Europe, and the unfettered migration into the EU from North Africa and the Middle East, at the EU’s open invitation. It shouldn’t take you long!

@NickAskew 2 ай бұрын

From the perspective of someone in the EU who observed it from our side, it seems that brexit was a stream of lies about us. Given that brexit was such a heap of manure it rather surprises me that people are expecting that joining the EU will be an easy step while your major political parties just talk about making brexit work.

@logtothebase2 2 ай бұрын

I think the lying about economics was an Adjunct. Most who voted for it were blinkered toward the migration topic, the rest of it was blah blah blah.

@SJG-nr8uj 2 ай бұрын

@seriousmaran9414 2 ай бұрын

We have one potential Brexit benefit, a real one! We can now see how bad the Tory government have become and have the option to vote them into obscurity on July 4th. Make it happen...

@uweinhamburg 2 ай бұрын

Has little to do with Brexit - the Tories have been a bad lot before the referendum already. The Brexit moment just brought out a new layer of BS...

@seriousmaran9414 2 ай бұрын

@@uweinhamburg Brexit really brought the issue out into the open.

@bob23301 2 ай бұрын

Disgraceful that they can walk away from the damage they have done to the next few generations.

@jonathanmarsh5955 2 ай бұрын

Only if we let them.

@SJG-nr8uj 2 ай бұрын

@jeanjohnstone4384 2 ай бұрын

it's proved that a nation can be fooled, backed by whatever newspaper is bought

@SJG-nr8uj 2 ай бұрын

@geoffreysmith734 2 ай бұрын

Brexit Britain needs more time !..........So they can FORGET how good it was BEFORE they left !

@susannehartl3067 2 ай бұрын

🎯

@jonsimmons4150 2 ай бұрын

yes 8 quid ph, now its 14 quid ph and jobs everywhere.

@SJG-nr8uj 2 ай бұрын

The EU will collapse within a few years time. Then all you Remoaners will be telling your grandchildren you voted Leave.

@jamesgraham2337 2 ай бұрын

Mike Galsworthy should have a slot on LBC

@pifflepockle 2 ай бұрын

Agreed. Comes across as a good guy as well as explaining things clearly

@SJG-nr8uj 2 ай бұрын

Galsworthy is a dishonest crook, like all your other Remoaner heroes.

@jackthebassman1 2 ай бұрын

All rational people are with you Liz, this so important not only for we oldies (77 here), but even more importantly for our children and grandchildren.

@bobleitch3610 2 ай бұрын

No they're not.

@jackthebassman1 2 ай бұрын

@@bobleitch3610 I said “RATIONAL”

@SJG-nr8uj 2 ай бұрын

Liz Webster, like Galsworthy, is a dishonest crook, who categorically will not tell you about what EU membership now entails. Or maybe, to be fair, she might just be completely ignorant (but Galsworthy certainly isn't ignorant, which leaves only the first option).

@fje1948 2 ай бұрын

Love your channel, love your cows. Thanks Liz. As for Bill Cash constituents who voted him in…..

@SJG-nr8uj 2 ай бұрын

@fje1948 2 ай бұрын

@@SJG-nr8uj I am European by Birth. You (British) deserve the decline of the Empire… Enjoy! UK Leaving the EU….. good for the EU! Not so good for the UK… Enjoy! 😂

@fje1948 2 ай бұрын

@@SJG-nr8uj Oh dear Brexiteer…..

@SJG-nr8uj 2 ай бұрын

@@fje1948 I report on the EU's own treaties, documents and declarations, which you haven't read. Well, guess what .... now's your chance. 1. THE EU’s FEDERAL INTENTIONS (ie. to make one big country) Lisbon Treaty Article 3.4: “The Union shall establish an ECONOMIC and monetary UNION whose currency is the euro.” EU Five Presidents’ Report, 2015: “Progress MUST HAPPEN on four fronts: first, towards a genuine ECONOMIC UNION that ensures each economy has the structural features to prosper within the Monetary Union. Second, towards a FINANCIAL UNION that guarantees the integrity of our currency across the Monetary Union and increases risk-sharing with the private sector. This means completing the Banking Union and accelerating the Capital Markets Completing Europe’s Economic and Monetary Union. Third, towards a FISCAL UNION that delivers both fiscal sustainability and fiscal stabilisation. And finally, towards a POLITICAL UNION that provides the foundation for all of the above through genuine democratic accountability, legitimacy and institutional strengthening.” Angela Merkel’s immediate response to the referendum result, 24th June 2016: “Today is a watershed moment for Europe, and it is a watershed moment for the EUROPEAN UNIFICATION PROCESS. There is no doubt that this is a blow to Europe, and to the EUROPEAN UNIFICATION PROCESS.” EU Rome Declaration, 25th March 2017: “Working towards COMPLETING the ECONOMIC and monetary UNION” (with a preferred deadline for completion of 2027). ECB’s ‘Fiscal Implications of the EU Recovery Package’ 2020. “The way that the EU has responded to the crisis also has implications for the future design and implementation of the EUROPEAN GOVERNANCE FRAMEWORK. First, while expansionary fiscal policy is necessary to sustain the recovery, going forward it will be important for the fiscal rules to effectively support the reduction of high government debt in good economic times. Second, NGEU constitutes a new and innovative element of the EUROPEAN FISCAL FRAMEWORK. It will result in the issuance of sizeable supranational debt over the coming years, and its establishment has signalled a political readiness to design a common fiscal tool when the need arises. This innovation, while a one-off, could also imply lessons for ECONOMIC and Monetary UNION, which still lacks a PERMANENT FISCAL CAPACITY AT SUPRANATIONAL LEVEL for macroeconomic stabilisation in deep crises. The review of the ECONOMIC GOVERNANCE FRAMEWORK, which was launched by the Commission in February 2020 and postponed because of the pandemic, provides a GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO INCORPORATE THESE IMPORTANT CONSIDERATIONS.” (NGEU stands for “Next Generation European Union”). From the EU’s own website: “Once the economic and financial crisis (of 2008/9) was overcome, the EU established a process aimed at reinforcing the architecture of EMU (ECONOMIC and monetary UNION). The process is based on the Five Presidents’ Report on Completing Europe’s Economic and Monetary Union of 2015, which focused on four main issues: • A genuine ECONOMIC UNION; • A FINANCIAL UNION; • A FISCAL UNION; • A POLITICAL UNION. These four unions are STRICTLY INTER-RELATED and would develop in parallel. The report was followed by a series of communications, proposals and measures, and the discussion is still ongoing.” In 2022 all member states reaffirmed their commitment to economic union, as part of Lisbon Treaty Article 3. From the EU’s website (dated 29/4/24): “Today the Council adopted three pieces of legislation that will reform the EU’s ECONOMIC AND FISCAL GOVERNANCE FRAMEWORK. ‘The main objective of the reform is to ensure sound and sustainable public finances, while promoting sustainable and inclusive growth in all member states through reforms and investment. The new legislation will significantly improve the existing framework and provide effective and applicable rules for all EU countries. They will safeguard balanced and sustainable public finances, increase the focus on structural reforms and investments to spur growth and job creation throughout the EU. The time is now for a swift implementation’: Vincent Van Peteghem, Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance of Belgium.” 2. THE EU’S MILITARY INTENTIONS Lisbon Treaty Article 42.3: “Member states shall make civilian and MILITARY capabilities available to the Union for the implementation of the common security and defence policy, to contribute to the objectives DEFINED BY THE EUROPEAN COUNCIL.” The EU’s military headquarters is the Kortenberg Building in Brussels. The EU Global Strategy, 30th June 2016, issued exactly one week after the referendum, contains the right of the EU’s military “to act autonomously (of NATO) if and when necessary”. It will need this, because, as you should know, Lisbon Treaty Article 42 commits member states to the defence of a member under attack. So if Ukraine is still under attack when it joins the EU, it will be the EU which is at war with Russia, not NATO. The defence of Ukraine doesn’t trigger the NATO charter. On 19th February 2019 Federica Mogherini told an audience in Hamburg: “... all the way through the security spectrum, up to the military operations, because not so many know that the European Union has seventeen deployed missions and operations around the world. So, together, we are already a unique global security provider.” I checked this figure recently. It now stands at twenty-one. On 23rd April 2019 the European Council issued its Military Command and Control Structures document, outlining its military command structure over member states’ land, sea and air forces. The diagram contained within reappears on the Wikipedia page for the Kortenberg Building, above. In September 2021 Ursula Von der Leyen said this: “But what we need is the European Defence Union. In the last weeks there have been many discussions on expeditionary forces. On what type and how many we need: battlegroups or EU entry forces. This is no doubt part of the debate - and I believe it will be part of the solution. But the more fundamental issue is why this has not worked in the past. You can have the most advanced forces in the world - but if you are never prepared to use them - of what use are they?” Last year the EU led joint military exercises in Spain. This is taken from the EU’s CSDP website: “The two-part MILEX 23 exercise commenced on 18 September and concluded on 22 October. The first part of this intense period was a 3-week planning phase by the MPCC in Brussels. In part two, this culminated in the EU’s first ever live military exercise from 16 - 22 October in Rota Naval Base, Cadiz, Spain. During Part 2, an EU Battlegroup-sized force carried out the Operational Plan developed by the MPCC in Part 1. Overall, 19 Member States contributed to MILEX 23.” (CSDP = Common Security and Defence Policy. MPCC = Military Planning and Conduct Capability). 3. Reckless EU expansionism across Eastern Europe - widely known and reported on, including Albania (hotbed of gangsterism and corruption), Serbia and Montenegro (both traditional allies of Russia), Moldova (part of it coveted by Russia), Ukraine (currently at war with Russia), Turkey (instantly the largest, most populous and poorest country in the EU upon joining) and several others, all of which will bring nothing but a begging bowl to the EU’s table. Oh, except for Ukraine, because, as above, Lisbon Treaty Article 42 commits member states to the military aid of a member under attack. So if Ukraine is still at war upon its accession the EU will be at war with Russia. 4. Unfettered migration into Europe from North Africa and the Middle East (the free movement of people was a secret part of the Euro-Mediterranean Partnership, in effect since 2010, and signed between the EU and Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Egypt, Jordan, Israel, the Palestine Authority, Lebanon, Syria and Turkey). “Eurocrats do not consider (migration) to be a problem, but rather as a project”: Fabrice Leggeri, former Director of the European Border and Coastguard Agency (Frontex). "The European Union and all leaders of all European nations MUST USE IMMIGRATION to undermine the homogeneity and ethnic identity of the native European people no matter how difficult this will be to explain to the citizens of their nations. This must happen, THIS WILL HAPPEN for globalism to take hold of Europe" - Peter Sutherland speaking in the House of Lords in 2014. Are your beloved heroes, Liz Webster, Galsworthy, O'Brien and co., likely to tell you about any of this any time soon?

@paulhough5941 Ай бұрын

@@fje1948Tell us what’s good about being out. Not less than ten full lines.

@bal1058 2 ай бұрын

I agree the Brexit MP’s should be sued.

@jonsimmons4150 2 ай бұрын

shoulda taken the HEATH family fortune away for duping us into the eec..

@SJG-nr8uj 2 ай бұрын

@evertonfrancis640 2 ай бұрын

I can’t even deliver letters or small packages to various EU countries without having to fuss with filling in forms and paying extra charges since Brexit 😡

@jameslochridge4265 Ай бұрын

Freedom of movement must be a first priority not only for musicians but ordinary workers and students.

@epincion 2 ай бұрын

Brilliant upload thanks Liz.

@SJG-nr8uj 2 ай бұрын

Now please tell us what you know about EU fiscal union, EU economic union, EU political union, the unification of member states’ armed forces under command of the European Council, the reckless expansionism of the EU across Eastern Europe, and the unfettered migration into the EU from North Africa and the Middle East, at the EU’s open invitation. It shouldn’t take you long!

@epincion 2 ай бұрын

@@SJG-nr8uj Bizarre ideas you have, mostly Russian talking points - just remember the UK is out the EU and we don’t give AF what you think

@SJG-nr8uj 2 ай бұрын

@@epincion The European Union (not Russia, funnily enough) is happy to provide you with the following information: 1. THE EU’s FEDERAL INTENTIONS (ie. to make one big country) Lisbon Treaty Article 3.4: “The Union shall establish an ECONOMIC and monetary UNION whose currency is the euro.” EU Five Presidents’ Report, 2015: “Progress MUST HAPPEN on four fronts: first, towards a genuine ECONOMIC UNION that ensures each economy has the structural features to prosper within the Monetary Union. Second, towards a FINANCIAL UNION that guarantees the integrity of our currency across the Monetary Union and increases risk-sharing with the private sector. This means completing the Banking Union and accelerating the Capital Markets Completing Europe’s Economic and Monetary Union. Third, towards a FISCAL UNION that delivers both fiscal sustainability and fiscal stabilisation. And finally, towards a POLITICAL UNION that provides the foundation for all of the above through genuine democratic accountability, legitimacy and institutional strengthening.” Angela Merkel’s immediate response to the referendum result, 24th June 2016: “Today is a watershed moment for Europe, and it is a watershed moment for the EUROPEAN UNIFICATION PROCESS. There is no doubt that this is a blow to Europe, and to the EUROPEAN UNIFICATION PROCESS.” EU Rome Declaration, 25th March 2017: “Working towards COMPLETING the ECONOMIC and monetary UNION” (with a preferred deadline for completion of 2027). ECB’s ‘Fiscal Implications of the EU Recovery Package’ 2020. “The way that the EU has responded to the crisis also has implications for the future design and implementation of the EUROPEAN GOVERNANCE FRAMEWORK. First, while expansionary fiscal policy is necessary to sustain the recovery, going forward it will be important for the fiscal rules to effectively support the reduction of high government debt in good economic times. Second, NGEU constitutes a new and innovative element of the EUROPEAN FISCAL FRAMEWORK. It will result in the issuance of sizeable supranational debt over the coming years, and its establishment has signalled a political readiness to design a common fiscal tool when the need arises. This innovation, while a one-off, could also imply lessons for ECONOMIC and Monetary UNION, which still lacks a PERMANENT FISCAL CAPACITY AT SUPRANATIONAL LEVEL for macroeconomic stabilisation in deep crises. The review of the ECONOMIC GOVERNANCE FRAMEWORK, which was launched by the Commission in February 2020 and postponed because of the pandemic, provides a GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO INCORPORATE THESE IMPORTANT CONSIDERATIONS.” (NGEU stands for “Next Generation European Union”). From the EU’s own website: “Once the economic and financial crisis (of 2008/9) was overcome, the EU established a process aimed at reinforcing the architecture of EMU (ECONOMIC and monetary UNION). The process is based on the Five Presidents’ Report on Completing Europe’s Economic and Monetary Union of 2015, which focused on four main issues: • A genuine ECONOMIC UNION; • A FINANCIAL UNION; • A FISCAL UNION; • A POLITICAL UNION. These four unions are STRICTLY INTER-RELATED and would develop in parallel. The report was followed by a series of communications, proposals and measures, and the discussion is still ongoing.” In 2022 all member states reaffirmed their commitment to economic union, as part of Lisbon Treaty Article 3. From the EU’s website (dated 29/4/24): “Today the Council adopted three pieces of legislation that will reform the EU’s ECONOMIC AND FISCAL GOVERNANCE FRAMEWORK. ‘The main objective of the reform is to ensure sound and sustainable public finances, while promoting sustainable and inclusive growth in all member states through reforms and investment. The new legislation will significantly improve the existing framework and provide effective and applicable rules for all EU countries. They will safeguard balanced and sustainable public finances, increase the focus on structural reforms and investments to spur growth and job creation throughout the EU. The time is now for a swift implementation’: Vincent Van Peteghem, Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance of Belgium.” 2. THE EU’S MILITARY INTENTIONS Lisbon Treaty Article 42.3: “Member states shall make civilian and MILITARY capabilities available to the Union for the implementation of the common security and defence policy, to contribute to the objectives DEFINED BY THE EUROPEAN COUNCIL.” The EU’s military headquarters is the Kortenberg Building in Brussels. The EU Global Strategy, 30th June 2016, issued exactly one week after the referendum, contains the right of the EU’s military “to act autonomously (of NATO) if and when necessary”. It will need this, because, as you should know, Lisbon Treaty Article 42 commits member states to the defence of a member under attack. So if Ukraine is still under attack when it joins the EU, it will be the EU which is at war with Russia, not NATO. The defence of Ukraine doesn’t trigger the NATO charter. On 19th February 2019 Federica Mogherini told an audience in Hamburg: “... all the way through the security spectrum, up to the military operations, because not so many know that the European Union has seventeen deployed missions and operations around the world. So, together, we are already a unique global security provider.” I checked this figure recently. It now stands at twenty-one. On 23rd April 2019 the European Council issued its Military Command and Control Structures document, outlining its military command structure over member states’ land, sea and air forces. The diagram contained within reappears on the Wikipedia page for the Kortenberg Building, above. In September 2021 Ursula Von der Leyen said this: “But what we need is the European Defence Union. In the last weeks there have been many discussions on expeditionary forces. On what type and how many we need: battlegroups or EU entry forces. This is no doubt part of the debate - and I believe it will be part of the solution. But the more fundamental issue is why this has not worked in the past. You can have the most advanced forces in the world - but if you are never prepared to use them - of what use are they?” Last year the EU led joint military exercises in Spain. This is taken from the EU’s CSDP website: “The two-part MILEX 23 exercise commenced on 18 September and concluded on 22 October. The first part of this intense period was a 3-week planning phase by the MPCC in Brussels. In part two, this culminated in the EU’s first ever live military exercise from 16 - 22 October in Rota Naval Base, Cadiz, Spain. During Part 2, an EU Battlegroup-sized force carried out the Operational Plan developed by the MPCC in Part 1. Overall, 19 Member States contributed to MILEX 23.” (CSDP = Common Security and Defence Policy. MPCC = Military Planning and Conduct Capability). 3. Reckless EU expansionism across Eastern Europe - widely known and reported on, including Albania (hotbed of gangsterism and corruption), Serbia and Montenegro (both traditional allies of Russia), Moldova (part of it coveted by Russia), Ukraine (currently at war with Russia), Turkey (instantly the largest, most populous and poorest country in the EU upon joining) and several others, all of which will bring nothing but a begging bowl to the EU’s table. Oh, except for Ukraine, because, as above, Lisbon Treaty Article 42 commits member states to the military aid of a member under attack. So if Ukraine is still at war upon its accession the EU will be at war with Russia. 4. Unfettered migration into Europe from North Africa and the Middle East (the free movement of people was a secret part of the Euro-Mediterranean Partnership, in effect since 2010, and signed between the EU and Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Egypt, Jordan, Israel, the Palestine Authority, Lebanon, Syria and Turkey). “Eurocrats do not consider (migration) to be a problem, but rather as a project”: Fabrice Leggeri, former Director of the European Border and Coastguard Agency (Frontex). "The European Union and all leaders of all European nations MUST USE IMMIGRATION to undermine the homogeneity and ethnic identity of the native European people no matter how difficult this will be to explain to the citizens of their nations. This must happen, THIS WILL HAPPEN for globalism to take hold of Europe" - Peter Sutherland speaking in the House of Lords in 2014. All this has been going on while you’ve been asleep for the last fifteen years. Do you think there is any chance of a dishonest crook like Liz Webster mentioning any of this any time soon?

@jamiebrewstersmusicalheroe7156 2 ай бұрын

Thank God that horrible Cash has gone 👏👏👏

@uweinhamburg 2 ай бұрын

Going cash-less can make everyday life much easier....

@davidraddings8211 2 ай бұрын

It's not about personalities it's about Sovereignty & as a lawyer he stood up for the Britain's Right to self determination

@lloydbelle3406 2 ай бұрын

@@davidraddings8211 Correct, but Self determination only becomes attractive if it proves to be better than shared/cooperative determination as offered with EU membership.

@davidraddings8211 2 ай бұрын

@@lloydbelle3406 This difference has not yet been determined. This comes with time, for instance after the UK 20yrs EU membership, or 50years in tota,l including Common Market membership

@lloydbelle3406 2 ай бұрын

@@davidraddings8211 I think you're being a coward, mate. You just don't have the guts to admit you've been misled. Please don't feel ashamed - you are a victim of con. Please remember that not a single politician sold Brexit as a "let's suck it, for 50 years, and see what happens"?

@TigerP1 2 ай бұрын

I am a UK citizen. I am also an EU citizen, I work for the EU but I have also herded cows in the Scottish borders. AT least it was nice weather.

@user-kf5mn5vn3t 2 ай бұрын

Summer of 23 was the first time (im a Brit living in Austria) i could get over to see my family and friends (due to covid). So we all went out for a meal at local pubs. No service. We had to order the meals having picked up and looked at the menu and pay for it. The meals and drink where brought to us (very enjoyable i might add) and cleared away. When i enquired what was happening i was told lack of staff. Their european workers went home because of covid and then due to visa form filling, finding accommodation they find it easier to work in the EU and therefore haven't come to the UK to work. Also the peeps working in the pubs are also looking for other work because they no longer make up their wages with .... Tips.

@johnwhitcher4761 2 ай бұрын

Many restrants work this way it cuts costs & stops people doing a runner 🏃

@user-kf5mn5vn3t 2 ай бұрын

@@johnwhitcher4761Sad that it's come to this.

@jonsimmons4150 2 ай бұрын

jobs everywhere. pay up.. my job as a tech fitter has gone up 25% if the eu is so good, how come these ppl flocked to the UK to work doing waiting and kitchen jobs?? how come the UK was the "EU jobcenter" if its so good in the EU?

@ianbooth3164 2 ай бұрын

@@jonsimmons4150 I think you're gravely mistaken if you think your sort of comments will do any good round here. This lot drank the EU Kool-Aid a long time ago. You'd have more success arguing with the Jehovah's Witnesses. Good luck with it, though.

@SJG-nr8uj 2 ай бұрын

You went to the wrong pub.

@brunobrauer6301 2 ай бұрын

Sneer-Smug said it would need 50 years, they are all crazy.

@billpugh58 2 ай бұрын

Shhhh the brexers never me ruin this

@SJG-nr8uj 2 ай бұрын

@NickAskew 2 ай бұрын

The very first point Mike makes is that the lived experiences of ordinary people is that travel in the EU is more difficult for British people. Yes of course it is because the UK chose to leave the EU so now if you want to come and visit us in the EU or work here in the EU then you are going to have to jump extra hurdles. These are issues that everyday British people are encountering and yet it seems that, in your upcoming election, no party is prepared to speak out against the folly that was brexit, worse some parties are actually promoting the idea that a loss of freedom of movement is a good thing.

@paulholdstock4751 13 күн бұрын

Brilliant Liz. Thank you for all your videos. Most appreciated.

@stephenconway2468 2 ай бұрын

I thought his explanation using clinical trials was a great analogy. We have had mountains of evidence showing the "net" benefit of Brexit and since 2016 and our actual exit pretty 100% costs/damage of Brexit...with no signs that it can ever change to be a net benefit. As regards sovereignty, we are now a rules taker. Our space to do things is more limited. Legal sovereignty is not the same as real world sovereignty.

@annepoitrineau5650 2 ай бұрын

Yes, let's wait 10 more years, time to see how bad things can go.

@randyvalantino6850 2 ай бұрын

Everything worked before Tony Blair opened uk borders how many years ago was that .

@thehealinggame 2 ай бұрын

Lock him up !

@SJG-nr8uj 2 ай бұрын

Galsworthy? If so, I agree. He's still being dishonest with you now, eight years after the referendum.

@markwalton3706 2 ай бұрын

Too many politicians and middle-England voters stuck in the 50's and 60's, shades of Empire and b**llocks like that. Why did many rural, post-industrial regions vote for Leave? Because they thought f-them - we have been crapped on from a great height so this might get some money/ resource focused on us! ... unfortunately most of these communities have received grants and investment in infrastructure from the EU - that is now not available but we have the roaring success of Levelling Up!!! What a pity we as a citizenship did not educate ourselves about the benefits of EU memberships versus the costs of leaving ... who in their right mind in the EU would wish to have us back!

@thefrecklepuny 2 ай бұрын

Those who say it's too early to see the full effects of Brexit need to consider two main things. Firstly, we were all told that we'd see immediate benefits after the referendum result in 2016, let alone leaving the EU in 2020. And done So without any qualifications. So yet another Brexit promise which could never be delivered. Secondly, as a jobseeker, you are considered long term unemployed if you're out of work for TWELVE MONTHS. Yet eight years after a referendum result and four years after leaving the EU, were told it still needs more time.

@ianbooth3164 2 ай бұрын

Yesterday would have been Turnip Tuesday had we believed believed the remain side. You'll find that most leavers expected a more difficult period than we've had but believed the long-term would be better. We'll see how it works out but let's not pretend either of us can see the future.

@johnwhitcher4761 2 ай бұрын

Well we did not fall of a cliff as many Remainers thought. We are the 4th largest exporter in the world on mainly Services so can't be that bad Apart from many UK buisnesses Profiteering & a useless gov. Prices In general are higher now & proberly The same in EU countries. I don't travel to EU countries & holiday in UK so things are not to bad for me.. 1

@thefrecklepuny 2 ай бұрын

@@ianbooth3164 @johnwhitcher4761 What you have is a slow puncture rather than a blowout. However, the hiss is getting more audible. If all you have is Brexit not being as bad as promised rather than an actual improvement as actually promised you, then you still have been royally conned.

@ianbooth3164 2 ай бұрын

@@thefrecklepuny Did I ever say anything about Brexit being less bad than I'd thought? Obviously it wasn't because I believed project fear at the time so expected calamity but I have never voted for economic reasons in any case (on the grounds that most economic forecasts are sadly innacurate (only 10% of recessions are ever forecast so it's an imprecise science at best)). One thing I've never understood about remainers, however, and maybe here you can help? Why is it they take it on themselves to determine why the other side voted and then mark them on their own criteria? Post referendum surveys say sovereignty was the main reason for the Leave vote and yet remainers only seem to talk about 'synthetic, doppleganger counterfactuals'. If only the world worked that way the economy would be in a much better place. Maybe you were motivated to vote for solely economic reasons but for many people it was just one of a number of issues they felt were important. How has UK growth compared to say France or Germany since the referendum, btw?

@thefrecklepuny 2 ай бұрын

@@ianbooth3164 You claimed most leavers expected a more difficult time? Bullshit. You were told the very opposite by Brexit's chief campaigners. Why did you not call them out on this when they were promising you the Moon on a stick immediately after the referendum result?

@user-fj9vh2ms5g 2 ай бұрын

did English children want to be outcasts????????

@johnmorrison9424 2 ай бұрын

Only English ? 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

@cainneachdaugherty7172 2 ай бұрын

Give birth in Ireland. People born in Ireland are automaticall an Irish citizen if one parent is British.

@ianbooth3164 2 ай бұрын

You do realise the EU population is less than 10% of the world total? A huge disrespect to people from elsewhere who you seem to think are irrelevant.

@davidgabb1736 2 ай бұрын

Only English children !!!!!

@lloydbelle3406 2 ай бұрын

@@ianbooth3164 That's the world of economics, Ian. The imbalance of wealth, and distance, across the globe doesn't make us all equal. Let me explain. If you have a UK business that pays employees £15/hr to make a product/service, you are going to find it extremely difficult to export your goods to countries thousands of miles away where the typical citizens earn £15/day or £15/week. The gains that we make on Australia and NewZealand exports, there simply is not enough countries on the globe left to compensate the loss of EU trading.

@pbn111 2 ай бұрын

I don't get it. What's wrong with these island people? You want in, you want out, you want in again??? Well, it's ok, just put in a application and we'll think about it. Btw. the normal time for getting into the EU after you filed the application is about 20 years or so. Good luck!

@SJG-nr8uj 2 ай бұрын

Relax. We don't want to be back in your megalomaniac sh*t-show. Please do your very best to keep us out of it.

@jonaen24 Ай бұрын

UK people want Rejoin, why can't we have Democracy?

@mickmiah7605 2 ай бұрын

We really need a Royal Commission to look at how the UK is run after this debacle.

@SJG-nr8uj 2 ай бұрын

No we don't. We've got an election due this week.

@jonathanwetherell3609 2 ай бұрын

Those that still support BRexit do so as an act of Faith. The exception is the very few that desired the tax avoidance and money laundering freedoms they still have. There are no benefits for the vast majority of us only the growing down sides. That is the thing about Faith, it is held in spite of evidence that it is wrong.

@SonOfViking 2 ай бұрын

As a third country wishing favourable terms of trade with a bloc, and even if the bloc sees mutual advantage in doing so, then the first thing the bloc will want to see is how you define the standards and regulations to which you hold yourself, how these frameworks are applied so that your claimed standards etc are intelligible to the other side, and how you legally enforce this application upon all the actors within the industry under discussion in any negotiation. This in fact is the legally prescribed necessity as defined within WTO Agreement rules for any country anywhere before any meaningful free trade deal can legitimately be proposed by anyone. Similar requirements for intelligibility and trustworthiness apply to many non-trade areas too, such as in the area of certifications, qualifications etc upon which mutual cooperation initiatives depend. Since becoming a third country the UK has seemingly "forgotten" that it ever had a requirement to do any of this. Such a complex matrix of standards determination, regulatory frameworks and legal enforcements takes even the most diligent emergent economy years, if not decades, to fully achieve. The UK hasn't even started yet - stupidly and illegally relying on its trading partners simply to "trust" that its "memory" of once having to abide by the matrix of regulations it had as an EU member means that it would never of course shaft such a partner in the future. The TCA was set up in the expectation that the UK at least understood this very basic requirement under international law, and the five year implementation review due next year was intended to be the point where progress in this respect would be assessed. Many of the problems blighting businesses and farmers arising from barriers between the UK and its continental market are exactly those that the TCA is designed to address - for all of the claims from Frost & Co that they negotiated a complex agreement the fact is that in both trade and cooperation this mechanism can be greatly expanded, and the EU has repeatedly stated this too. Maybe it's at last time that the UK actually check its obligations under the WTO Agreement in this respect and finally get around to actually implementing its side of the TCA in good faith? As things stand the UK is on course for actually losing the meagre provisions that were concluded within the present TCA as the EU concludes that it is not dealing with a sensible, trustworthy or seemingly intelligent partner at all, never mind expanding them further to alleviate these difficulties. Whether it was ignorance or arrogance that prevented the UK from even beginning to recognise what a third country actually is and to behave accordingly (and even more worryingly this dilemma is hardly addressed at all within public discourse in the UK), the bottom line is that this harsh reality must at some point finally be acknowledged and the appropriate actions begin to be taken. Otherwise, in terms of ever negotiating a meaningful trade or cooperation deal with any responsible partner (EU or not), you are simply screwed.

@verttikoo2052 2 ай бұрын

Yep. This doesn’t sink in. They all talk about that they are going to renegotiate stuff when we 🇪🇺 are thinking about sanctions for the UK for not honoring or completely breaking against the agreement 🙄

@SJG-nr8uj 2 ай бұрын

So you still think the European Union is about trade? (Oh, to be so naive!).

@SonOfViking 2 ай бұрын

@@SJG-nr8uj Well, no. I believe it is a collection of countries which mutually agree to: - lay the foundations of an ‘ever closer union’ among the peoples of Europe - ensure the economic and social progress of their countries by joint action to eliminate trade and other barriers between them; - improve their citizens’ living and working conditions; - ensure balanced trade and fair competition; - reduce the economic and social differences between the EEC’s (later the EU's) various regions; - gradually abolish restrictions on international trade through a common trade policy; - abide by the principles of the UN charter; - pool their resources to preserve and strengthen peace and liberty and call on other peoples of Europe who share this ideal to join them in these efforts Trade plays a crucial role, but as you can see from the above text from the Treaty of Rome it is not the raison d'être (you may need help translating that last phrase, and by the way Rome is a foreign city in a foreign place called Italy). Glad I could help you.

@SJG-nr8uj 2 ай бұрын

@@SonOfViking I really love people who are as arrogant and condescending as they are ignorant! The European Union is happy to provide the following information: 1. THE EU’s FEDERAL INTENTIONS (ie. to make one big country) Lisbon Treaty Article 3.4: “The Union shall establish an ECONOMIC and monetary UNION whose currency is the euro.” EU Five Presidents’ Report, 2015: “Progress MUST HAPPEN on four fronts: first, towards a genuine ECONOMIC UNION that ensures each economy has the structural features to prosper within the Monetary Union. Second, towards a FINANCIAL UNION that guarantees the integrity of our currency across the Monetary Union and increases risk-sharing with the private sector. This means completing the Banking Union and accelerating the Capital Markets Completing Europe’s Economic and Monetary Union. Third, towards a FISCAL UNION that delivers both fiscal sustainability and fiscal stabilisation. And finally, towards a POLITICAL UNION that provides the foundation for all of the above through genuine democratic accountability, legitimacy and institutional strengthening.” Angela Merkel’s immediate response to the referendum result, 24th June 2016: “Today is a watershed moment for Europe, and it is a watershed moment for the EUROPEAN UNIFICATION PROCESS. There is no doubt that this is a blow to Europe, and to the EUROPEAN UNIFICATION PROCESS.” EU Rome Declaration, 25th March 2017: “Working towards COMPLETING the ECONOMIC and monetary UNION” (with a preferred deadline for completion of 2027). ECB’s ‘Fiscal Implications of the EU Recovery Package’ 2020. “The way that the EU has responded to the crisis also has implications for the future design and implementation of the EUROPEAN GOVERNANCE FRAMEWORK. First, while expansionary fiscal policy is necessary to sustain the recovery, going forward it will be important for the fiscal rules to effectively support the reduction of high government debt in good economic times. Second, NGEU constitutes a new and innovative element of the EUROPEAN FISCAL FRAMEWORK. It will result in the issuance of sizeable supranational debt over the coming years, and its establishment has signalled a political readiness to design a common fiscal tool when the need arises. This innovation, while a one-off, could also imply lessons for ECONOMIC and Monetary UNION, which still lacks a PERMANENT FISCAL CAPACITY AT SUPRANATIONAL LEVEL for macroeconomic stabilisation in deep crises. The review of the ECONOMIC GOVERNANCE FRAMEWORK, which was launched by the Commission in February 2020 and postponed because of the pandemic, provides a GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO INCORPORATE THESE IMPORTANT CONSIDERATIONS.” (NGEU stands for “Next Generation European Union”). From the EU’s own website: “Once the economic and financial crisis (of 2008/9) was overcome, the EU established a process aimed at reinforcing the architecture of EMU (ECONOMIC and monetary UNION). The process is based on the Five Presidents’ Report on Completing Europe’s Economic and Monetary Union of 2015, which focused on four main issues: • A genuine ECONOMIC UNION; • A FINANCIAL UNION; • A FISCAL UNION; • A POLITICAL UNION. These four unions are STRICTLY INTER-RELATED and would develop in parallel. The report was followed by a series of communications, proposals and measures, and the discussion is still ongoing.” In 2022 all member states reaffirmed their commitment to economic union, as part of Lisbon Treaty Article 3. From the EU’s website (dated 29/4/24): “Today the Council adopted three pieces of legislation that will reform the EU’s ECONOMIC AND FISCAL GOVERNANCE FRAMEWORK. ‘The main objective of the reform is to ensure sound and sustainable public finances, while promoting sustainable and inclusive growth in all member states through reforms and investment. The new legislation will significantly improve the existing framework and provide effective and applicable rules for all EU countries. They will safeguard balanced and sustainable public finances, increase the focus on structural reforms and investments to spur growth and job creation throughout the EU. The time is now for a swift implementation’: Vincent Van Peteghem, Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance of Belgium.” 2. THE EU’S MILITARY INTENTIONS Lisbon Treaty Article 42.3: “Member states shall make civilian and MILITARY capabilities available to the Union for the implementation of the common security and defence policy, to contribute to the objectives DEFINED BY THE EUROPEAN COUNCIL.” The EU’s military headquarters is the Kortenberg Building in Brussels. The EU Global Strategy, 30th June 2016, issued exactly one week after the referendum, contains the right of the EU’s military “to act autonomously (of NATO) if and when necessary”. It will need this, because, as you should know, Lisbon Treaty Article 42 commits member states to the defence of a member under attack. So if Ukraine is still under attack when it joins the EU, it will be the EU which is at war with Russia, not NATO. The defence of Ukraine doesn’t trigger the NATO charter. On 19th February 2019 Federica Mogherini told an audience in Hamburg: “... all the way through the security spectrum, up to the military operations, because not so many know that the European Union has seventeen deployed missions and operations around the world. So, together, we are already a unique global security provider.” I checked this figure recently. It now stands at twenty-one. On 23rd April 2019 the European Council issued its Military Command and Control Structures document, outlining its military command structure over member states’ land, sea and air forces. The diagram contained within reappears on the Wikipedia page for the Kortenberg Building, above. In September 2021 Ursula Von der Leyen said this: “But what we need is the European Defence Union. In the last weeks there have been many discussions on expeditionary forces. On what type and how many we need: battlegroups or EU entry forces. This is no doubt part of the debate - and I believe it will be part of the solution. But the more fundamental issue is why this has not worked in the past. You can have the most advanced forces in the world - but if you are never prepared to use them - of what use are they?” Last year the EU led joint military exercises in Spain. This is taken from the EU’s CSDP website: “The two-part MILEX 23 exercise commenced on 18 September and concluded on 22 October. The first part of this intense period was a 3-week planning phase by the MPCC in Brussels. In part two, this culminated in the EU’s first ever live military exercise from 16 - 22 October in Rota Naval Base, Cadiz, Spain. During Part 2, an EU Battlegroup-sized force carried out the Operational Plan developed by the MPCC in Part 1. Overall, 19 Member States contributed to MILEX 23.” (CSDP = Common Security and Defence Policy. MPCC = Military Planning and Conduct Capability). 3. Reckless EU expansionism across Eastern Europe - widely known and reported on, including Albania (hotbed of gangsterism and corruption), Serbia and Montenegro (both traditional allies of Russia), Moldova (part of it coveted by Russia), Ukraine (currently at war with Russia), Turkey (instantly the largest, most populous and poorest country in the EU upon joining) and several others, all of which will bring nothing but a begging bowl to the EU’s table. Oh, except for Ukraine, because, as above, Lisbon Treaty Article 42 commits member states to the military aid of a member under attack. So if Ukraine is still at war upon its accession the EU will be at war with Russia. 4. Unfettered migration into Europe from North Africa and the Middle East (the free movement of people was a secret part of the Euro-Mediterranean Partnership, in effect since 2010, and signed between the EU and Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Egypt, Jordan, Israel, the Palestine Authority, Lebanon, Syria and Turkey). “Eurocrats do not consider (migration) to be a problem, but rather as a project”: Fabrice Leggeri, former Director of the European Border and Coastguard Agency (Frontex). "The European Union and all leaders of all European nations MUST USE IMMIGRATION to undermine the homogeneity and ethnic identity of the native European people no matter how difficult this will be to explain to the citizens of their nations. This must happen, THIS WILL HAPPEN for globalism to take hold of Europe" - Peter Sutherland speaking in the House of Lords in 2014. All this has been going on while you’ve been asleep for the last fifteen years.

@SonOfViking 2 ай бұрын

@@SJG-nr8uj Sounds cool. Pity you left out the Lisbon Protocols whereby countries' own constitutional stances on military neutrality would not be superseded by any provision within the Treaty for any EU member to contribute military forces, and that it remains the right of each member to decide if, when and how it would contribute if asked - but then that wouldn't have looked good mixed in with all the federal stuff you cite (scary word). And, far from being asleep for the last fifteen years, I have been actively contributing in my career throughout that time to achieving all these "goals" you object to, including the one that got the British in a terrible tizzy when Sutherland spoke to the House of Lords Committee. Because of the furore it caused there this actually became the subject of a European Parliament question to the Commission for clarification at the time. I notice you didn't bother putting the answer from the Commission in amongst your cut'n'pastes. Glad I could arrogantly help you again. Have an absolutely federal day!

@michaelgoss9606 Ай бұрын

Thanks Liz.

@RM-rp6hx 2 ай бұрын

Liz, they weren't naughty - they were just trying to get back to the EU. Like we all are.

@fje1948 2 ай бұрын

😂

@SJG-nr8uj 2 ай бұрын

@Elst07896 2 ай бұрын

@@SJG-nr8uj You keep asking these questions and I don't understand why? What's your point exactly? So, if anyone doesn't know or have answers, does that invalidate them or their feelings at all?! We're talking about day to day lived experiences not about incursions from North Africa! I'm not suggesting for a second that your questions don't have merit, but this is the wrong audience surely.🤷🏾‍♂️

@SJG-nr8uj 2 ай бұрын

@@Elst07896 Not at all the wrong audience. These people are Remoaners who wish we were back in the European Union, in the belief that the EU is a harmless, benign trading bloc. It isn't. The European Union comes as a package - you take everything and you cannot "cherry-pick" (their phrase) the bits you want. So these people need to know that the EU is still working towards becoming one big country, under a central, federal government that no electorate can ever vote into or out of office, that the EU is putting member states' armed forces together under its own command, and that its expansionism across Eastern Europe puts it on a collision course for war with Russia. (Lisbon Treaty Article 42). As for unfettered migration into Europe from North Africa and the Middle East, the free movement of people was a secret part of the Euro-Mediterranean Partnership, in effect since 2010, and signed between the EU and Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Egypt, Jordan, Israel, the Palestine Authority, Lebanon, Syria and Turkey. “Eurocrats do not consider (migration) to be a problem, but rather as a project”: Fabrice Leggeri, former Director of the European Border and Coastguard Agency (Frontex). "The European Union and all leaders of all European nations MUST USE IMMIGRATION to undermine the homogeneity and ethnic identity of the native European people no matter how difficult this will be to explain to the citizens of their nations. This must happen, THIS WILL HAPPEN for globalism to take hold of Europe" - Peter Sutherland speaking in the House of Lords in 2014. I believe that people have a democratic right to know this stuff. Remainers like Liz Webster, O'Brien and co. would rather they didn't.

@uweinhamburg 2 ай бұрын

Only 2 years and we will see the celebrations of 'referendum decade'. I don't expect it to be something very happy and lighthearted.... Perhaps Brexit is something similar to cancer - whatever you do, just waiting and doing nothing isn't the correct decision for sure! The old Labour song 'Things can only bet getter' is wrong, the last 14 years have shown that things can get worse as well.

@virtious8 2 ай бұрын

Brexit is the Tories' baby, they can't disown it. We are in the middle of an election campaign and if it was brilliant you would expect the Tories to be crowing about it. Instead there is utter silence.

@lloydbelle3406 2 ай бұрын

If the Tories were responsible for delivering a brilliant Brexit, this election campaign would have been months ago, and today we would be 'enjoying' another Tory government...

@SJG-nr8uj 2 ай бұрын

@europainvicta3907 2 ай бұрын

Perhaps I was more experienced - in that I have been travelling, living, working, investing in the EU for decades, but I still can’t for the life of me, understand how people couldn’t see that putting up barriers between the UK and the EU wouldn’t increase costs and restrict freedoms. It’s a no brainier.

@ab-ym3bf 2 ай бұрын

"it's a no brainer" 17,4m brits jumping up shouting "me, me, me".

@SJG-nr8uj 2 ай бұрын

@ab-ym3bf 2 ай бұрын

@@SJG-nr8uj still looking for answers that don't take long to find for yourself I see. How can a person be so clueless for so long.

@SJG-nr8uj 2 ай бұрын

@@ab-ym3bf You would know the answer to that particular question. I already know the answers. In case you haven't worked it out, and you clearly haven't, I'm asking people what THEY know, because most of them have spent eight years in complete ignorance. A bit like yourself.

@ab-ym3bf 2 ай бұрын

@@SJG-nr8uj if you think to know the answers there is no need to ask others over and over again with the same copy-pasted troll post. So clearly you do no know and now try to hide that. But never mind, whatever people tell you, you'll still post the same nonsense again tomorrow.

@punditgi 2 ай бұрын

Go, Liz! 😊

@tomwalsh2244 2 ай бұрын

We WANT back in, WE WANT to travel more freely. We need to get rid of red tape for OUR BUSINESSES. Nah. Definitely not ready to apply. Next years review of the TCA is not to redraw it. Starmer can do nothing.

@SJG-nr8uj 2 ай бұрын

@kennethdale6260 2 ай бұрын

Brexit has buggered greatly my two sons ability to do business with Europe. They are now seriously thinking of moving to Germany or Spain who would welcome them with open arms for the technology and jobs they could bring. My wife and l would move with them.

@hunterschuckwagon1749 2 ай бұрын

Meanwhile in the EU today, the official accession process for Ukraine and Moldova has started. This two years after these countries had been given candidate member status. On February 28, 2022, (Ukraine) and on March 3, 2022 (Moldova), both countries (together with Georgia, but that country is still in the waiting room) officially applied for membership of the EU. This just shows how long the first part of the EU accession process takes. Never mind the rest of the steps.

@Purple_flower09 2 ай бұрын

Yes it's almost impossibly difficult for the UK to successfully ask to join again.

@SJG-nr8uj 2 ай бұрын

And, as you will certainly know, Lisbon Treaty Article 42 commits member states to the military assistance of a member state under attack. Ukraine is under attack. Therefore, if Ukraine is still under attack when it joins the EU, the EU will be at war with Russia. Exactly what Remoaners have always wanted. Well, maybe not wanted, but those are the terms they voted in favour of!. Shame nobody told them!

@chrisstones1249 2 ай бұрын

Dear old bill cash,all spent up .

@bobrobertson9547 2 ай бұрын

Well said sir. 👏👍

@catherinemartin6258 2 ай бұрын

I voted brexit and regretted it ever since

@SJG-nr8uj 2 ай бұрын

Why? Please tell us what you know about EU fiscal union, EU economic union, EU political union, the unification of member states’ armed forces under command of the European Council, the reckless expansionism of the EU across Eastern Europe, and the unfettered migration into the EU from North Africa and the Middle East, at the EU’s open invitation. These are the alternatives to what you voted for.

@eddieR-yy3sy Ай бұрын

The saddest part of the Brexit referendum was the 50/50 vote. It should have required an overwhelming majority to decide.

@borypilgrim533 Ай бұрын

Great video. We need to get back into the EU. Love the way you talk about your animals. Great farming.

@lizwebstersbf Ай бұрын

Thank you

@lawsonj39 2 ай бұрын

The cattle escaping seem a lot like Brexit: the herd broke out and then found they had nowhere to go.

@ianlightfoot9458 2 ай бұрын

Sovwinty innit? Well, you can't eat sovereignty. Sovereignty doesn't pay your wage and pay your bills.

@jonsimmons4150 2 ай бұрын

good management does.. and costing.. australian fruit pickers get 30$ ph minimum plus 8% superannuation. that's 16.30 GBP ph plus super. similar prices on the shelves.. u saying you cant get farm workers on 16.30 ph minimum in the UK? ur pulling my pi$$er!

@SJG-nr8uj 2 ай бұрын

@AnthonyBrown12324 2 ай бұрын

I HAVE A GERMAN FRIEND . I used to send him gifts now and again no problems . Now it's almost impossible . A parcel I sent was held up in German customs and would have been sent back ; despite having the correct documentation . Retailers won't now send stuff or there are high charges and no guarantee it will get there .

@Arthur_Pint 2 ай бұрын

As much as I despise what Cash, Farage, Johnson, Rees-Mogg et al did to our country via Brexit, the real problem was not them but the 17.4m who voted for it. The fact of the matter is that the Brexiter politicians didn't need to do much persuading, as many older 'Leave' voters, had already made their minds-up any the start of the Referendum campaign. In 2016, voters were 'older' people who had grew-up as part of a generation that considered anyone who didn't look white enough, or didn't speak English like they did to be just another 'bloody 'foriner'' I'm in my late sixties and I can remember the common place ridiculous mis-conceptions and derogatory insults, and racist language that flowed out of the mouths of people, who in any almost every other aspect of their lives, came across as being very respectable. Unfortunately, that is the generation, (of whom in 2016 there were many more of than the discerning younger voters who supported Remain ). It is that generation who placed this country into the hands of extreme Brexiter politicians, who did nothing more than take advantage of their voters long-held bigoted views.

@lizwebstersbf 2 ай бұрын

Many have been brainwashed by right wing foreign owned media for decades.

@Arthur_Pint 2 ай бұрын

@@lizwebstersbf Hello Liz, and thanks for your excellent work in promoting 'the Remain cause', which you do by speaking the truth about Brexit, a subject which our cowardly politicians dare not even mention -that is until at least after the GE. Back to your reply: The question is: To what degree were the older generation Brexit voters 'brainwashed' by the right-wing 'Anglophile' and 'white' foreign press barons, or were the barons merely giving them what they wanted to hear because they, (the voters), already believed in it.

@jonkayl9416 2 ай бұрын

We will have to go back in at some point.

@grahamwebber5795 2 ай бұрын

Mike galsworthy 👏👏👏👏👏👏

@SJG-nr8uj 2 ай бұрын

The dishonest Remoaner crook!

@therealrobertbirchall 2 ай бұрын

Cash had a rural constituency at Stone in Staffordshire. He should have known better than to back Brexshit. But I'm sure Billy boy made a few quid to keep him comfortable in his dotage.

@SJG-nr8uj 2 ай бұрын

@therealrobertbirchall 2 ай бұрын

@@SJG-nr8uj the greatest peace and so far most successful project in recorded history. On a continent that has been at war with itself for 2,000 years plus. Good enough for me.

@SJG-nr8uj 2 ай бұрын

@@therealrobertbirchall Don't be ridiculous. If it had not been for German militarism and its propensity to invade its neighbours there would have been peace in Western Europe since the mid-nineteenth century! That militarism finally had to be crushed by force in 1944/5, with the blood of British, American, Canadian and Russian forces. After that Germany had to be occupied by the Allied powers, and the EU has prospered only because of the defence umbrella provided by NATO. And now the EU is getting ideas above its station, wanting to be one big country and putting its member states' armed forces together. It is now more likely to start a war than prevent one.

@brianperry 2 ай бұрын

Brexit is a disaster that nobody will be brought to account for...Its all to late for me, I'm 78 years old, but l feel sorry for those who just missed out on being able to vote on a subject that will effect their lives, and possible their children's lives...

@SJG-nr8uj 2 ай бұрын

Are you still bleating on?

@michaelmayo3127 Ай бұрын

Yes, sovereignty comes at a price. When the UK was a member of the EU, the UK entrusted some of the its trading sovereignty, to a team of professional EU negotiators; thus they made the best possible deals, for bother the UK and the EU. Today the EU still makes good deals for its member; whole in the UK, we are still clipping a pasting old EU deals!!. 42 years of trade progress wasted; on a sovereignty-whim, call brexit!!

@AnthonyBrown12324 2 ай бұрын

Maybe Starmer could have a better relationship with Eu the tories ran a coach and horses through the diplomatic relations and got the worst deal possible after saying it would be so easy

@sunalp2 2 ай бұрын

I don’t understand when they talk about sovereignty, and that you were being dictated to by Brussels, why they never mention that Britain was a major player in making those rules?

@karmannghiaman1041 2 ай бұрын

With a veto! Absolute madness and so it's been proven however, like the MAGA hordes, they're wedded to their ideology.

@stephenhodgson3506 2 ай бұрын

We now know that what the experts said would happen has happened. We know that the largest demographic to vote Leave was the elderly. Based on mortality rates we now know that the difference between the Leave and Remain vote has now gone through death. We now have around seven million voters who because of age never even had a vote in the Referendum whose future was stolen from them by the likes of Bill Cash. The reality is that there will never again be a majority in this country that wants to be outside of the EU. However because of the antics of these liars, trust between the EU and the UK is low from their side so the chances of any new membership application been accepted are slim. All we can hope is that in the near future we can witness people like Bill Cash having to sit there and see that we are once again about to become a member of the EU. As Mike Galsworthy rightly said Starmer's only duty at this moment in time is to get elected into government. Once in government he can then take steps to reverse the disaster of Brexit. But he is wise enough to not reopen the Brexit debate because if he does we will go back to the whole can of worms that occurred from 2016 to 2020. The Tories are not going to bring it up because it will just highlight yet another of their failures. Farage might try but he knows that he too would be treading on thin ice because people can see no benefits and only negatives and they just might blame him. As for the claims we have our sovereignty back, well we had our sovereignty when we were members with the sole exception that we couldn't do anything that might have damaged other members of the EU. If others outside of the EU had tried to damage us then we had the full force of the EU to help protect us. By grabbing for our so called sovereignty we have weakened the sovereignty we still had before. These hard line Brexiteers need to get it into their thick skulls that the Empire has gone and many of the former members of that Empire despise us for the damage we did to their countries. When you toss in the obvious racism of some Brexiteers then just why would some of these countries want to have anything to do with us but to try and extract some measure of revenge if the opportunity presents itself? The likes of Bill Cash and Farage are not patriots because of the untold damage they have done to this country and for Farage to say he would have done a better job getting Brexit done is just another delusion. If we had got a Farage Brexit this country would have been even worse off than we are now. The next time Farage brings up the I would have got it done better I wish whoever is interviewing him pins him down and makes him tell us all what he would have done better. Then we can show just what a fool he is.

@Donald.Raindrops 2 ай бұрын

Hear, hear! Sue them and remove their fat government pensions... let them live on the State Pension, like the rest of us have to!

@ianbooth3164 2 ай бұрын

"...we had the full force of the EU to help protect us" "...need to get it into their thick skulls" "When you toss in the obvious racism of some Brexiteers ..." "I wish whoever is interviewing him pins him down and makes him tell us..." I think Brexit might be damaging your mental health. Really, it's time to move on: the sun is shining and the girls are smiling.

@SJG-nr8uj 2 ай бұрын

@stephenhodgson3506 2 ай бұрын

@@SJG-nr8uj As you hide behind an anonymous account it is really, really simple you go on line and search for The Treaty of Paris followed by The Treaty of Rome, which we signed to become a member. It's all there from the moment the project began way back in 1951. Not hidden documents but freely available for 73 years. But as you just get your information from right wing political bigots and Putin appeasers who agree with your own bigotry you won't have even bothered to try because that is hard work which will contradict every thing you think you know about the EU. So go away and educate yourself on the truth.

@kelvinlewis1329 2 ай бұрын

The brexiteers who caused our problems have to become responsible and accountable

@robertm4063 2 ай бұрын

The UK had many problems before 23/6/16.

@SJG-nr8uj 2 ай бұрын

@user-ol6rd7pl5t 2 ай бұрын

The economy/British taxpayers are already losing £100 billion a year because of brexit, if we wait another 10 years that will be another £1 trillion we've lost, that's money we could be spending fixing all our public services the Tories have spent the last 14 years destroying., new hospitals, new prisons, new housing, cutting NHS waiting lists etc.

@paullarne 2 ай бұрын

We were losing a real £120bn/year in the EU. There are of course costs of being out but they are much less than the costs of being in.

@marinusvos 2 ай бұрын

@@paullarne That's a blatant LIE!

@paullarne 2 ай бұрын

@@marinusvos No it isn't, go look up real figures.

@stephenconway2468 2 ай бұрын

@@paullarne The net contribution to the EU was about £13 billion. It was an investment as it reduced import/export red tape and allowed us a strong voice at the table. Now I have the numbers to back up my statement. Where are yours?

@marinusvos 2 ай бұрын

@@paullarne No, you do that. Experts, I know you and your ilk don't like them, stated in the past that every GBP payed to the EU has a minimum revenue of 5 times that amount! So go do your homework you lazy B.!

@annetteshawunstoppableyou5281 2 ай бұрын

Good bye and good riddance to Bill Cash! I wish Farage snd Johnson would follow!

@dekmackie 2 ай бұрын

Promised a bed of roses, and all we got was weeds.

@kcvfr400 2 ай бұрын

Life is short, 20 yrs is not a reasonable timeframe to wait for anything

@SJG-nr8uj 2 ай бұрын

Well, don't bother waiting. Live with it.

@user-nf4zh2vj5e 2 ай бұрын

they said the benefits would be instant not 20 50 or 100 years.

@johnwhitcher4761 2 ай бұрын

Who is they

@RalphBrooker-gn9iv 2 ай бұрын

Bon débarras Bill Cash. Whether the bad news is from a remainer of a leaver, it’s still bad news. Well said Mike Galsworthy. Floating right over Cash’s self-serving bonce. And of course if and when we rejoin the EU the deal won’t be anywhere near as favourable as original treaties afforded us.

@garrickedin Ай бұрын

Finally, some open speaking about the rubbish lies of Brexit.

@Bavvo69 2 ай бұрын

You did make me smile at the end… naughty cows 😂

@actuallypaulstanley 2 ай бұрын

Am sure firefighters arrive at a burning building and their first consideration is to discuss how much more damage will be done by leaving the fire burning then getting the hoses out to put the fire out…

@StMarysparishCoatbridge 2 ай бұрын

Lockem up

@kosmiccharleyhowdoyoudo843 2 ай бұрын

The UK always had it's sovereignty, that's why it was able to call a referendum about leaving the EU... unlike Scotland, which doesn't have it's own sovereignty and who have to ask permission from the Westminster parliament to call one.

@AlexThipthorp 2 ай бұрын

This new drug Brexit will give you your legs back, yes since administering Brexit you have developed an infection but give it time and we will know if it develops into Sepsis and then we will rethink about the side effects of this wonderful drug Brexit.

@einseitig3391 2 ай бұрын

Mike Galsworthy is very articulate and throws into relief much that I have heard from the electorate during this campaign. Those who expect the Conservatives to die out during this election; you will be sorely disappointed. The mess we find ourselves in will not be relieved any time soon. On the question of immigration, I can foresee things becoming very heated in the short to medium term when Europe attempts to rid itself of failed asylum seekers via deportation flights and many of those threatened with expulsion decide to head for France and the channel to enter the UK illegally. With the work that Liz does here it is obvious to me and those (Remainers) who comment that the issues are numerous and complex. Those like Bill Cash, and Rafage engage in sophism; making everything seem simple. They obviously learned during the Brexit debate that most voters do not want to think for themselves but rather be led by donkeys to their fate. The likes of Rees-Mogg in all those safe Tory seats will only be made to feel uncomfortable if and when the UK adopts proportional representation.

@lizwebstersbf 2 ай бұрын

Yes we are very much at the mercy of unintended consequences that were always guaranteed by deciding to appease Brexit frauderendum.

@user-lh9ei6he1h Ай бұрын

REJOIN!

@Tas17.4 2 ай бұрын

Where's my unicorn

@briankerrison8504 2 ай бұрын

Shorting the pound isn’t illegal here in uk.. we are talking about the old boys clubs.. 🙄🙄🤔🤔

@finlayfraser9952 2 ай бұрын

Sovereignty to discard legal safeguards for the public in order to give freedom to the lords of finance!

@Mr.L007 2 ай бұрын

Cash spewing nothing but bull shit

@SJG-nr8uj 2 ай бұрын

@Greenstone08 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for posting this Liz..really interesting.

@errisgloshfan 2 ай бұрын

Unfortunately there is no sanction for being stupid, neither the Brexit promoters nor the Brexit supporters can be charged with anything But the beneficiaries and there are beneficiaries, that is a different matter and there is probably no Tory law to cover that type of fraud. There are people who are very pleased with the stash of extra cash in some offshore tax haven.

@user-fx5bj8zv3o 2 ай бұрын

we need a referendum to return to EU

@batcollins3714 13 күн бұрын

The UK is the only country in Europe that's still banging on about Brexit! Its done and dusted, we don't want to know any more about it. Brexit is non reversable, for England anyway. Scotland is a different story. What a cock up!

@biocapsule7311 2 ай бұрын

*No, there is no 'merit' in saying it is "too early" to see the effects of Brexit.* Mainly because Brexiteers still can't say a specific, concrete path of action towards anything of value. It's like you building a port 'inland' in the middle of nowhere and say, who know, maybe the topography will change in the future. If you were hoping, waiting for some unforeseen circumstances in order to truly 'evaluate' Brexit, then that is not an evaluation at all. Who knows, may be an asteroid will hit earth in 10 years and everyone dies, doesn't mean Brexit is a success. Also Starmer can't 'promise' anything about it because rejoin isn't something easily done, he can at most realigned. Better to under promise and over deliver then to over promise and never deliver.

@patrickyorke3028 2 ай бұрын

Lovely vid. Thanks Liz.

@Ptf74 2 ай бұрын

"A lot of remainer messages". My god what contempt! If you don't go along with this nonsense you're not considered a citizen.

@harveybrown37 Ай бұрын

Cash is a bad Liar. The Government's own white paper said that Sovereignty was not lost whatsoever by our membership of the EU.

@clivesmith9377 2 ай бұрын

Starmer's government after the tory catastrophe, is like Biden's Government after trump. So Starmer should do, at least as well as Biden. Because, if not, there's another election in four years.

@Bran9 2 ай бұрын

Lis truly your grass is poor, the fence is harmless and the stock are lying down after filling them selves. However the fellow Mike is very much on the ball, thanks for that 🤠

@Purple_flower09 2 ай бұрын

We could do with some honesty here about what trying to join the EU again means. A decade of severe austerity for starters. Followed by a slap in the face from the EU.

@susannehartl3067 2 ай бұрын

You are already in a period of severe austerity. So, what would be the difference?

@arthurmetaxas4653 2 ай бұрын

On the issue of sovereignty what the British refused to acknowledge is that the EU is a regulatory superpower so so that it sets standards that others must follow if they wish to trade with the EU.

@HomeGrownVeg 2 ай бұрын

Hello Liz. I know I've mentioned this before but we've moved on a week and still no posts in farmers fields supporting the Tory's. This was the norm a few years ago. This should tell us something. What's changed? Just asking.

@lizwebstersbf 2 ай бұрын

Farmers have no party to vote for. Tories used to be party for SMEs and rural issues. archive.ph/2024.06.25-044828/www.ft.com/content/fefc333b-b1e7-4b47-ac90-864adf6f82a4

@tobylynch 2 ай бұрын

Bunch of gambler's wanting to gamble with the country. 🎰 Lucky 7 BREXITED

@johnmckie6563 2 ай бұрын

Nice little hook there with the bovine ladies… Bill Cash is just a silly old man and Mike G is talking sense.

@algernonwolfwhistle6351 2 ай бұрын

The people will need to suffer much more before the issue of Brexit rises to a position where another referendum is called. Just like the issue of Scotland's independence, those in power will tell us that not enough time has elapsed to merit another because they are afraid of the consequences should they cede to the request. They call themselves democrats.

@williampatrickfagan7590 2 ай бұрын

I have always said that taking back control was a load of bolloxollogy. Why? I UK want to export a box of matches, it will obey ALL European Union standards, as well.as ALL rules n regs. If they do not, the box of matches cannot be exported. Even if they do meet the UKCA mark.

@robertjohn6354 2 ай бұрын

The nodding " journalist" look well on the back of my car along with the Churchill dog . More proof of how protectionist the EU is , thanks for pointing it out .