Here we use the air core loop and a single germanium diode for AM broadcast reception
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@notvalidcharacters2 жыл бұрын
So I clicked a thumbs-up as soon as I heard the words "I'm an analogue guy". I like Paul. He's a good egg. --- and we're back here at the Group W bench! I have that Grundig loop, although it's sold under a couple of different names too.
@luisuriashermosillo6804 Жыл бұрын
Radio was, and is a wonderfull tool for many posible activities, from security, comunity integration, information, humor, music, health, you name it! Even more fantastic were radio people!!. We should save both, as not only high art state of radio arts and techs, but as advanced mental persons in our world. Keep the art alive and the most younger people tuned to all of this. We use to listen to a lot of AM radio in the north of Mexico from the US. A huge important developing influence in the 50s. Greetings, and thanks a lot, from Chihuahua, some 250 miles south of El Paso . 👌🏻🌟🤗
@W1VLF Жыл бұрын
Hi Luis, Thank you for your kind comments.. I love AM radio and was very discouraged to hear that some car manufacturers were going to stop putting AM into cars. I am glad that didn't become law!! W1VLF
@W1AEX4 жыл бұрын
Nicely done Paul! It's amazing what can be done with a good idea, a few clip leads and what's in our junk boxes!
@W1VLF4 жыл бұрын
Well their are not up to the caliber of the W1AEX videos I have watched.. but I guess they will do.. Thanks do much for watching and comment . Best of 73's Rob W1VLF
@jeremycole30082 жыл бұрын
excellent way of describing and illustrating this
@Karl636014 жыл бұрын
Hi Paul. Pretty sure it was my comment you referred to. Yep, I'm really enjoying BCB dxing. I've been playing around with a wideband untuned loop I cobbled out of some speaker wire and a little LNA module from eBay. Kind of a real poor man's Wellbrook. I'm about 40 miles south of St Louis, and with my cheap Retekess V-115 radio/recorder and my loop, I'm getting all kinds of dx. Regularly enjoy a number of Canadians and Cubans, and everything inbetween. I've also got an AN200 loop and with a diode and an old pair of Trimm Featherweights I regularly listen to my neighbors KREI (800KHz) about 3 miles to my south, and KFMO (1240KHz) about a mile to my west. Yep, I think this might be the most fun you can have with your pants on. Thanks again, and keep 'em coming. '73
@W1VLF4 жыл бұрын
Yup Carl you are correct. I am not sure if can mention names yet on YT... As you can see I am new at this. BTW no one wants to see me with my pants off LOL.. Not even my wife!!!! Thanks for the comments.
@W4TRI4 жыл бұрын
Love this discussion! Top work! If you could do a handwritten diagram with the cap you mentioned that would be helpful too.
@W1VLF4 жыл бұрын
Good Idea.. Whats in my head is not always what come across in the video.. Some diagrams would certainly be helpful. I will do that.
@1tux23 жыл бұрын
This video threw me for a loop ;-} I watched a few of Paul's other ones and now I know how to wind and unwind them to hit sections of the band. I was going to go with plans on the internet but now I will get creative! I need a generator and scope like his so will keep his advice on those in mind. 73's AA8IB.
@catalinalb17224 жыл бұрын
Great video Sir! Respect! I have the AN-200 (branded Tecsun) and a Tektronix Osciloscope bought from a HAM Flea market. I will try this for sure! When I was a kid I had a galena stone between a longwire and the grounding wire. In parallel a small speaker. I was listening Radio România. I think also on Medium Wave. Thanks for your work. Keep safe!
@oldmedia31892 жыл бұрын
De unde ai luat osciloscop?
@MrNeumerker Жыл бұрын
I did the same thing in Hungary. My father and I we were able to listen to the Radio free Europe.
@aultraman3 жыл бұрын
Great content! Never knew you could have a loop inside another loop. Thanks, KK6GXK
@madmax20692 жыл бұрын
3:27 thats just the plastic ring that holds the wraps of wire. I thought the same thing, but the plastic ring is halved and the part you're seeing is the step of the two halves so that they'll hold together.
@philupdegrave7313 жыл бұрын
I like to old-school o-scope! Forget the LCD and plasma screens! If you ain't burnin' retina, then you ain't using a REAL o-scope! Great YT channel, great info.
@kicktree2 жыл бұрын
That was fun! I had a 17 project electronic circuit kit as a child (1971). It had a simple rectifier receiver circuit. I was amazed! Still am! 73 K4nal
@marusholilac4 жыл бұрын
In the 1970s I was playing with unpowered AM receivers and made what I believe is the least complex receiver possible. I had a straight length of wire, a germanium diode and a single lead to my headphones. The headphones had no ground connection. I was able to hear WEAM-1390 in Falls Church, Virginia, the strongest signal at my house 5 miles away in Arlington. I agree that it would be sad if the US one day lost AM radio. I found this video in a fruitless search of the web, looking for documented examples of radio reception in plumbing fixtures and fences.
@CARLiCON2 жыл бұрын
got one easier than that, I took an old CB antenna & clipped it to the hot mic input on a laptop & using the media player to monitor the mic, was able to pick up my local 5kw AM station (transmitter about 5 miles away). No tuning capacitors, no diodes, no electrical components, no software, just antenna into the mic input, using the laptop as an amplifier. But of course this only works because of 2 things: 1) being close enough to a strong AM transmitter, & 2) dumb luck that the cb antenna is able to resonate close enough to the strong local station's frequency. Give it a try some time
@toml.8210 Жыл бұрын
When you learn how to use these passive loops, they work well. Digital TV is one thing, but radio is an important tool for the survival of the country!
@W1VLF Жыл бұрын
I could not agree more. The ability to pass communications onto the public using a diode and wire alone as a a receiver is impairative
@toml.8210 Жыл бұрын
@@W1VLF eye-phone owners will disagree! Let's see how they get emergency comms when their eye-phone doesn't work- or even turn on! The rest of us will be digging out the hams, or stringing up long-wire antennas. I've been listening to SW live from the Ukraine, since the wart started there.
@kennethgroves65522 жыл бұрын
Awesome video!
@maikerumine Жыл бұрын
I appreciated this video!
@W1VLF Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@TerryLawrence0013 жыл бұрын
I remember using a pencil "lead' a safety pin and a used double edged blued razor blade for a detector :-) memories... I enjoy these videos Thank you!
@W1VLF3 жыл бұрын
Yes... Memories!! Thank you for the vote of confidence. I will continue making videos as time permits
@bradleyleben77853 жыл бұрын
And no static! 👍
@johnnytacokleinschmidt5152 жыл бұрын
Fellow Nutmegger here. I'm right next to 990 WNTY I'll give it a go this weekend and try my 2 kilo ohm headphones.
@BonifacioJose17632 жыл бұрын
Paul, simply sensational! won a subscriber! I'm passionate about radio, especially WM, LW and VLF...I'm looking for how to change MW to VLF but I can't find anything on the internet...I want to change one radio or make a receiver... I have a Kenwood thf6a. it takes me up to 100khz...and I want to go lower....help me
@W4TRI4 жыл бұрын
There is Group W where they put ya if you may not be moral enough...... Love Arlo!
@bobcox9836 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!!
@W1VLF Жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@krisraps2 жыл бұрын
This Is The Best Video On This Exact Subject Onm KZbin, Soo Coool! Learned Actually SOmething :) I Have BUNCH Of Old USSR Diodes, Transformers, Transiostors, Everything, Thats So Crazy, I have Selenium Electric Parts And Ohh, I Have Mountains Of USSR Stuff, Vaccum Tubes N Stuff
@charlesloukas1946 Жыл бұрын
A geranium transistor could be used as a diode
@af4od027 ай бұрын
Excellent video. Thanks. What is the upper and lower frequency use of the little Grundig loop?
@W1VLF7 ай бұрын
About 500 KHz to 1700 KHz
@frankartieta4887 Жыл бұрын
HaHa I`m good in the call book :) I havent seen a callbook in years Neat call w1 very low frequency I have never experienced loops The tuning is pretty darn sharp sharper than I would have thought I have built very simple crystal sets The high q of the coil there does make an undoubtedly big improvement 73
@W1VLF Жыл бұрын
Yes .i does... In small antennas, fractions of wavelength, I like to say "it all about the Q". Also I figured there would some OM out there who got the joke!!! Thank Frank
@ronbercan10003 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@watsok4 жыл бұрын
I have read about using a voltage divider to feed a silicon diode about 1/4 volt DC to get its larger forward voltage drop over germanium reduced. Have you tried this? Really like your videos
@W1VLF4 жыл бұрын
No Sir I have not tried that, but it does make sense. With weaker signal you may not have enough voltage to turn on the diode. Thank for the kind words.. I will keep on making them is people are enjoying them W1VLF
@W4TRI4 жыл бұрын
on the AM loop you showed at the end what is the smallest PVC size you could get away with when building one of those?
@W1VLF4 жыл бұрын
Hi Ronny.. The area of the loop is what determines it ability to capture signal. If you used to 4" diameter instead of 8" the level of signal would drop by 6 db. 2" another 6 db approximately. If you halve the diameter of a circle, the area reduces by 4 times, the opposite if you double the diameter
@mranalogman3525 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, enjoyed this video. Is that a type-o in the end? 1N43 vs 1N34? Seems 1N34's are hard to come by these days. Folks talk about fakes and receiving silicon diodes instead.
@W1VLF Жыл бұрын
Hello, it was a 1n34 diode. I found a couple at a local ham radio fleamarket W1VLF
@johnclarke47014 жыл бұрын
I'm interested in building/experimenting with loops such as you had in the video. Do you or know of anyone who has a video on building such loops and determining their characteristics? Thanks.
@W1VLF4 жыл бұрын
John, dont be afraid to just go ahead an experiment. Look at this video.. then use these technique to find out where your loop is resonant kzbin.info/www/bejne/qGfSYaaVZct-jLs
@chrismead14642 жыл бұрын
I have one of these commercial loop antennas, but no idea on what you did, is there a step by step you might consider doing for a total noob like me?
@daic72742 жыл бұрын
Nice...goes off to hunt diodes and have a play :)
@TheMadRocker4 жыл бұрын
Very cool.. Question: Could the amp be replaced with a crystal radio earbud and diode inline, making it not need electric at all? Thanks ahead of time and keep up the cool work.
@W1VLF4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely.. You would then have a real crystal set. As long as the signal of the station is strong enough to drive the high impedance head phones
@TheMadRocker4 жыл бұрын
@@W1VLF Thank you again.. will give this a go.
@chandansur5648 Жыл бұрын
nice video......graet. best of 73,VU2ZOC
@fidelcatsro69484 жыл бұрын
lets try light up LEDs with that Grundig loop and 1n34 diode
@samuellourenco1050 Жыл бұрын
What about headphones, or perhaps piezoelectric speakers? Is it possible to do this without any amplifier?
@MikinessAnalog Жыл бұрын
Piezo-crystal earphones were what was traditionally used for decades as their impedance is so high.
@poseypapusdiazfamily46304 жыл бұрын
Nice..
@markjulius20064 жыл бұрын
So how does that work? Do you have the capability of choosing different radio stations or just the strongest one?
@W1VLF4 жыл бұрын
Like crystal set .. you can select multiple stations is the signal is strong enough
@kennethgroves65522 жыл бұрын
Is that a Moxie cola bottle in the background? Nevada here..
@migalito19554 ай бұрын
Cool beans. My friend gave me a crystal set she had giffted her deceased husband. I assembled it. I plan to do more than the basics later before I switch to SolderSmokes direct conversion receiver. kc2wvb P.S. Neat loops. My most recent tx/rx loop was made with 4 inch diameter aluminum dryer vent tubing. 4 foot square with 23 inch per side square of 3/4 copper pipe as te drive/sense loop. Its sweet on 40 up to 20 meters.
@W1VLF4 ай бұрын
Hey that's great! I am going to look at SolderSmokes direct conversion RX I had not heard of that before. W1VLF
@robblerouser56574 жыл бұрын
You need to get Moxie to sponsor you!!
@jackmiller10302 жыл бұрын
I know I'm commenting on this video a couple of years late, but can you *please* answer me a question? What circuit(s) did you clip those germanium diodes out of? I would like to find one in the "wild", so to speak, meaning salvage it from some piece of electronics. Are you able to tell me what would normally contain these? Thanks in advance!
@DL-kc8fc Жыл бұрын
If you find any older diodes, there is no warranty that the "crystal" will work, because for example in our country, on long waves in the amplitude modulation has not been broadcast for a long time. In addition, the crystals worked well at a time when the transmitters had power calculated in KW. Today, the situation is such that transmitters have power in fractions, ie in watts. But well, if you want a spare diode, make it from galenite according to old instructions, but you will not be satisfied with the functionality of the above causes. In the "wilderness" use an old cell phone that has a functional part of the FM. With a long coaxial antenna you can capture the signal and also have free radio. You can power the old mobile phone in the wild with a small solar panel. The video is not honest because it does not draw attention to problems. But it is possible that somewhere it is still broadcast in the amplitude modulation on long waves and the transmitter with great power is in sight. Then it could work.
@CARLiCON Жыл бұрын
you won't find these germanium diodes in anything modern that you can salvage, you may find one in an old radio circuit board but the leads will be too short to re-purpose & there's no point in ruining a good radio to make a crystal radio. You can find them online, also the old radio shack project kits always had them to teach beginner radio circuits.
@ManuelPinner3 жыл бұрын
You can also can get Video to,
@charlesh34 жыл бұрын
A tiny thing: the text says "1N43" but the narrative correctly says "1N34".
@W1VLF4 жыл бұрын
Whoops... Old age setting in .. W1VLF
@blueline3082 жыл бұрын
@@W1VLF So which one is correct...?
@W1VLF2 жыл бұрын
@@blueline308 my typing skills leave a lot to be desired... 1N34A is correct
@paulschmolke1883 жыл бұрын
Fine demo! A basic crystal radio. It works well too. KE5TJ
@W1VLF3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir!! W1VLF
@attilarivera4 жыл бұрын
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
@psnpacific3 жыл бұрын
👍
@DrEvil8144 жыл бұрын
"Group W bench" haha
@krisraps Жыл бұрын
Join HAM Discord Where There Are MANY Parts for radios - discord.gg/6DVRpHnzKD
@jeromegrzelak82364 жыл бұрын
made one for aircraft and cb band
@douglasdunn72672 жыл бұрын
Great show, old idea, modern application! DE K7YD
@Nostrildomus10 ай бұрын
C00L
@a7sorips3 жыл бұрын
I don't like your videos. I LOVE THEM
@W1VLF3 жыл бұрын
lol !!! Thank you.. W1VLF
@eminusipi4 жыл бұрын
Get your hands on a galena crystal and make a true crystal radio. I used to have a tennis ball chunk of galena and gave it away years ago! Darn!
@karlschulte923111 ай бұрын
Loss of AM BC would be sad plus harmful to the public in major disaster. Need simple ways to hear news. 73 wa2kbz
@tima-ld6ci5 ай бұрын
зачем подкладывать под осциллограф если специально для этого ручку сделали. переверни вниз и будет тебе подставка. "ну тупые"
@joepangia4413 Жыл бұрын
Lol strikes for the oscilloscope signature of a potential copyrighted peice of content on KZbin. You’re too funny.
@kchoudri3 жыл бұрын
oh yeah.. the intensitiy of sadness is obvious on your face ... hence I am not going to continue watching any further than 1:07...
@ManuelPinner3 жыл бұрын
Not True just TV Broadcast! Ham Radio Communications will be Left Alone,
@erin190302 жыл бұрын
I am amazed at the reception range i get with my loop. I live outside of Philadelphia and picked. Uo a station in NC. I w was a freaky right wing low power station spewing forth white hate speech in disguise. Is this what has become of AM radio, now hate radio, even the evangelicals are off the wall.