Israel won’t listen to the West as it heads for full-scale war with Iran | Catherine Philp

[@LR-jk2jk]

"it should frighten us" - right, typical western response. Afraid of its own shadow.

[@shtroizn]

I would say that a country roughly the size of New Jersey, fighting on eight fronts, facing daily rocket and missile attacks as well as terror attacks in its cities EVERY day now for a year - all orchestrated by a regime in Iran which from 1979 has openly called for its destruction and even has a "doomsday clock" in Palestine square in Tehran - with a large screen that keeps track of the number of days left until the destruction of Israel, and which is on the brink of having nuclear weapons - qualifies Israelis as feeling this is indeed a war for survival, no less.

[@AY-uf4oz]

Absolutely correct.

[@adetheheat8657]

They said Iraq had nukes.

[@magicmind6458]

@@adetheheat8657i wonder too

[@A4rings110]

Don’t come crying for help when you escalate this to the point where you cannot handle it yourself. Good luck

[@Liam-w4h4w]

100%

[@ac-uk6hs]

I can't believe we live in a world where a country that leader just said that October 7th attacks on men women and children kidnapping hostage taking and killing is justified in Islam and they're trying to get nuclear weapons and you leave it up to a little country full of $6 million Jews the size of Rhode Island to fight that war and not only do not make it easier but you try to put hurdles in front of them. I'm not the biggest fan of netanyahu but more and more he looks like Churchill. I wonder if the world has a Roosevelt

[@lanhat931]

Israel has dictated events to such a degree that whatever escalatory act of aggression Iran chooses to do ultimately plays right into Israel's strategic goals. First, it allows them to strike Iran proper, but more importantly, it gives Israel diplomatic "get out of jail free cards" from the US over their actions in Gaza and Lebanon. Israel simply says, "Okay, we will reduce our retaliatory strike against Iran, but in exchange, back the f*** off attempting to micromanage our actions against the Proxies." And that's exactly what has happened, and will continue to happen...

[@elliotcohen2286]

Survival is more important than keeping the west happy

[@monireid9515]

@@elliotcohen2286 survival through oppression is not the best strategy.

[@mikedebruyn]

@@monireid9515 But how does Israel oppress the Iranians? Iran is attacking Israel with terrorist proxy's and is now shooting rockets directly at Israel. What do you want Israel to do? In Lebanon there is UNIFILL that is an organization that is supposed to help the Libanese army to de-weaponize Hezbollah as part of a UN solution.

[@Navschannel3908]

@@monireid9515 words spoken by a true idiot. IF Hamas were to lay down their weapons, there would be peace... If Israel were to lay down their weapons, there would no longer be an Israel. Oppression... Israel gave up half their country to try to find peace... What was the response to that? Oh ya, my bad.... WAR. and whoops, Israel survived.

[@jack_s]

Survival is by all means by definition . And we could care less about west opinion

[@A4rings110]

“Survival”?? Don’t come running for help when you escalate this to the point where you can’t handle it by yourself.

[@openureyes]

You cannot blame Israel, being attacked from every single angle what are they ment to do

[@kheptril]

Oh I don't know... maybe entering into serious negotiations on the two state solution...

[@thebigdoghimself]

Maybe if they hadn't spent the past hundred years stealing Palastinian land everyone wouldn't be against them.

[@The_D_Man]

@@kheptrilif they wanted serious negotiations they have returned the hostages

[@A4rings110]

@@The_D_Manif they wanted the hostages back they would make an agreement…. That’s the only way you have been able to get any hostages back…

[@jack_s]

We are not going to negotiate with states and organisations that their official policy is to destroy us.

[@Павел-ь2ш2с]

What are you fuming about? We promised and we divide equally: one - a bagel, the other - a hole from a bagel. We have a democratic republic!

[@SiaBasma]

SHAME ON THE WEST!!!!

[@joycejnn]

🙏🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱

[@allamaadi]

Nice neutral thumbnail

[@ryanwalters6184]

Good job Practicing that Independence Israel!!! Welcome to the multipolar world!

[@JamesSmith-pk9qp]

800 views in 18 minutes bro fell off

[@funk0rz]

your brain fell off

[@bhalps]

lol, this woman is saying she knows what Israelis are seeing on their TV is silly. So many of them are in the reserves currently and the rest have been in the reserves, or will be in the reserves. They get the first hand experience, they don't need to watch the news on this.

[@wilmavanheerden9177]

But they do expect the West to come and support them?

[@joewoodchuck3824]

Possibly, but why not?

[@py2038]

It's not certain that Bibi got stronger as a result of the army success

[@kayskreed]

Has Netanyahu ever listened?

[@magicmind6458]

Listen to what? Did terrorists listen? Israel go..go..

[@holaclive]

Hubris

[@sanderbos6439]

Yeah they won't listen they grow their weapons on trees.

[@DianeBohn-b3f]

Would you listen, after time and time again Isreal did not want a cease fire can you blame them tbey tried but they did not listen

[@LindaToothaker-s6b]

We have heard what is real will do but explain why they are not doing to iran

[@blackwatch7151]

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[@Ap-cm7mx]

TEST--TEST!!! --- See if this comment is blocked as well --- TEST--TEST!!!

[@BaumerPaulGefreiter]

And Israeli people have probably forgotten who Miklós Horthy was. (Netanyahu's best friend among Europeans, Viktor Orbán, had Miklós Horthy's bust installed in the Hungarian parliament building) ...

[@monireid9515]

Civilians in Giza affected? Like 40,000 civilians killed perhaps?

[@boink800]

We remember October 7

[@kayskreed]

They have been dehumanized by western media and governments. Their deaths don't matter in the eyes of the West.

[@KamppProductions]

Their elected gorvorment is to blame for these 40.000 lives.

[@boink800]

@@KamppProductions Does Gaza have an "elected" government?

[@KamppProductions]

@@boink800 Yes Hamas was democratically elected over Fatah which is in power in the west bank.

[@PerfidiousAlbion1815]

Israel will listen, it always does, but it always will reserve the right, as any Nation would, to do what it feels is in its people’s best interest. The problem occurs when the political decision making compromises Israelis best interests. Arguing this to those who voted and will continue to vote for Netanyahu, when Israel is constantly attacked and constantly attacks the enemies that surround it, is nearly impossible given any message of moderation is watered down in Israelis eyes by their fear for their national survival, at any cost..

[@Malelioncub]

Iran has the right to use nuclear to defend itself

[@joewoodchuck3824]

So you support terrorism then.

[@thebigdoghimself]

I hope Harris has the common sense to stop providing them with both monetary and weapons support.

[@joewoodchuck3824]

That's probably the only thing Harris would get right if she materially supports Israel.