Literally reinventing the wheel in Space Engineers...

[@Zer0sLegion]

So, how could I have improved the design? And do you have any other ideas for challenges I could do in Space Engineers? Let me know!

[@iffypedia14]

Idea for a challenge: I know how to make a ship work in space only using gravity generators and artificial mass blocks for thrust, but it needs a script. Is it possible to do this without a script?

[@logtrimmer]

You might be able to place a rotor on a rotor to increase rotational speed if that might help

[@Zer0sLegion]

@@iffypedia14 I already did this

[@iffypedia14]

@@Zer0sLegion oh i missed that lol, sorry

[@D_Rogers]

8 points of ground contact instead of 4 works better, or gives a smoother ride anyway!! :) I find the ground clearance on the wheel suspension blocks completely inadequate and stick to building my own wheels for rovers these days...

[@fangthewarrior]

Not too long ago I started testing custom suspension. Probably the more impressive was independent suspension using hinges, worked really well. And I have heard of those triangular wheels and attempted to make something very similar in SE with four wheels... Clang wasn't happy to say the least

[@Zer0sLegion]

Clang be like that lol.

[@madformuser]

Is clang the engine or a god you all worship? Im confused...

[@The_Bird_Bird_Harder]

@@madformuser Community joke name for physics engine glitches.

[@madformuser]

@@The_Bird_Bird_Harder makes sense

[@CT-1035]

@@madformuser both

[@foxyloon]

Just realized this is the embodiment of the idiom "reinventing the wheel". Still went better than I was expecting, lol

[@Zer0sLegion]

True hahaha

[@DarkonFullPower]

I'm terrified what you might come up with is you explore Space Engineers history with genuine tank treads. We've been trying to propel ourselves with pure clank almost longer than wheels have been out.

[@timbomb374]

Been a while since I played so I dunno what's possible anymore but probably having wheels with like 4 rotating landing gears that always face down that engage and disenguage so you have perfect grip would allow you to travel along any surface.

[@Zer0sLegion]

I've seen people use that to climb vertically but it's the slowest thing in the universe.

[@BestHakase]

Do you really need wheels? You can make walking skis like the very first mars rover.

[@Zer0sLegion]

The idea of SE skis both fascinates me and terrifies me lol

[@nineonine9082]

I recall doing this idea about a year or two ago, it was incredibly fun, I also did it with damage on and it turned out the key was as you found out bigger is better, but I hit a wall where at a certain point you can't go faster, because while in theory you can, because scale up for ever, at a certain point your wheels touching the voxels just cause the ground to explode like your crashing into it, very fun, I sort of ended up using a 5 star shaped wheel with static wheels on the end to provide grip and for their resistance to damage. It was a weird thing where small wheels were just bad, because of the rotor rpm limit and they just couldn't grip, but too large and the speed of the wheel (skin) would smash the ground because your imparting so much force. Long story short I think I was able to get them to around 50m/s at more, now I just abuse hovercraft (wheels with 0 friction) and just slide over everything at 90m/s where any wheeled craft would explode at the slightest bump.

[@Zer0sLegion]

Yeah, I had a lot of fun with this, especially when it started working. I wanna do a video on hovercrafts but I need it to not be over in 30 seconds 😅

[@kuramkitsunea]

I recently got back into space engineers after I was browsing the workshop and found some mods I thought would be fun to play with. Normally I’ll make a new world, play for about a week, then stop and the next time I relaunch the game I’ll repeat the process. Now, I’ve finally made a permanent world that I’ll use, modded up(quite a bit) and I’ve been scourging KZbin for info on conveyers, ways to improve building my large ships, and stuff like that. I don’t remember when I subbed to you, but I’m very glad I did because your videos have helped a lot with relearning/improving how I build my ships and bases(I’m using your thruster mod because like you, I hate making a ship and realize I’m short two to three large thrusters and just having to slap them on, making a brick)

[@Zer0sLegion]

Nice to here it!

[@noxiousvex]

not too long ago I tested a Gear version of a Tank Tread, It worked out pretty successfully utilizing Rotors with Blast door style gears which actually pushed a Belt using Hinges, Blast Doors, and then small Heavy 2x1 Blocks. it worked fairly successfully however it required quiet a bit of tweaking initially to get it working effectively. It wasn't fast with Velocity but it was extremely stable with all types of terrain. however Smooth Landings such as Large Block Roads and such it was horrendous due to lack of friction. overall the test Id have to say was fairly successful and never required any wheels it was slow but very stable.

[@Nemoticon]

Like so many before you, the realisation that trying to re-invent the wheel hits hard and fast xD

[@Zer0sLegion]

Lol, TRUE

[@Nemoticon]

@@Zer0sLegion But if still worth trying, even just for entertainment sake. Sometimes after wasting 3-5hrs on SE, you stand back and look at what you've done saying "What the hell am I doing?" xD

[@5Davideo]

What if the ship WAS the wheel? A (rough) sphere that propels itself via gyros.

[@corbintenorio9619]

I feel like slowing the wheels down might have increased the time for each wheel spoke to get a grip on the floor. Worth a shot?

[@Zer0sLegion]

I did try it and it does help you get up the slopes but not enough to get you up that hill

[@corbintenorio9619]

@@Zer0sLegion Ok cool

[@grimmliberty7447]

Okay so what happens if you make those Wheels with the spokes a thousand blocks long would you immediately be launched into space at 500 m a second? That was the very first question my mind asked when I saw this combined with just watching your speed limit video.

[@Zer0sLegion]

I think the game would crash if I made it 1000m long but I could give it a go lol.

[@kaysidegamer5996]

Idea: a hinged and landing gear design that turns “wheels” with landing gear on hinges with no braking power

[@Zer0sLegion]

That sound both very dangerous and very fun

[@Nevir202]

Thanks for this, was having trouble with a rover I built in creative. Got it built, started doing some mining, if was too front heavy and plowed face down into the earth. Copied it out and suddenly it wouldn't drive for a damn... Couldn't figure it out till you deleted your cargo containers. Turns out I had 50K stone in there lol

[@Zer0sLegion]

hahaha 😅

[@milokiss8276]

Concept: Making a walker, Using doors and pistons.

[@iffypedia14]

Type “/gps ” to quickly make markers, it’s faster than control panel

[@Zer0sLegion]

Yeah, It's just easier to show on camera creating a gps in the menu that typing a command

[@iffypedia14]

@@Zer0sLegion ah alright that makes sense

[@guillermoelnino]

This reminds me of how similar space engineers is to scrap mechanic.

[@davass82]

I don't think it would work on a wheel but I have used landing gears and pistons to move rovers.

[@Zer0sLegion]

That sounds like fun!

[@ramankhmel2094]

hinges to make the wheels more circle

[@TOMSON999]

You were too preoccupied to find out whether or not you could And never asked yourself whether or not you should

[@Zer0sLegion]

😰

[@MurakumoVance]

I think you just inspired me to create a new rover... What if we reversed this idea and decided that we need to multiply our wheels? What if you had hinges connected to your vehicle like you did earlier in the video, then you added rotors to those, and similar to your X shape design wheels, we put an additional four more rotors at the ends of your ex tires. Now you place wheels at the ends of each of the X tires, and make sure they're always spinning with rotors, and then for good measure we add in thrusters to the back so we always have forward momentum. How well do you think that would do?

[@net343]

Just flip the blast doors 90 degrees and you should be good to go

[@Zer0sLegion]

Yeah, I thought about that right after I finished, makes way more sense lol

[@Jdubya4040]

gotta go for the four wheel steering like a porsche or warthog

[@ulfsark78]

You showed a picture of a 3-wheeled thing meant to climb stairs. Why not take that as inspiration? Use the rotors to turn 4 wheels that are either locked in place, or just placed directly on the cross-structure?

[@Zer0sLegion]

Yeah, that would have probably made sense, I just didn't want to use wheels as I felt it violated my own rules.

[@johnblaze8092]

That is a philosophical question to which I answer no, you can not. If it doesn't have wheels it ceases to be a rover. ;)

[@Zer0sLegion]

Nooooooo, not like this 😓

[@haelww1]

I think you could improve your wheelless wheel by adding wheels. Wait ! I'm serious ! You couls add the 1x1 wheels at the tip of your cross to add friction. Either at the exact tip, or on either sides of the cross to make it end like a "T".

[@Zer0sLegion]

Yeah, I did consider that but I didn't know if it counted as breaking my own rules lol.

[@chriskelso723]

@@Zer0sLegion It doesn't if you just use them for their grip and not their turning power.

[@deradministrator6367]

Looks funny .. i Think i will repeat it with Drill Tyres 😂

[@gemoglobinator6860]

If you need rover without wheels, you can use thrusters

[@Zer0sLegion]

I think that might be cheating

[@gemoglobinator6860]

@@Zer0sLegion how about to use spherical corner window to make big spherical wheel?

[@FrozenRat161]

put wheels on the end of the wheel-less wheel crosses xD

[@Zer0sLegion]

I did think of that but I wasn't sure if that invalidated my own rules lol

[@trent3783]

Yknow Zer0 you never tried the bigger back wheels, maybe that would work better🤷‍♂️

[@Zer0sLegion]

Yeah, i need to make rolling front wheels first but in theory it would work better.

[@alexhail9971]

Do you not remember before wheels are added i do and am glad we have them no more clang monsters anymore

[@imadethiscomment5663]

Have you tried the mod Lifted Wheel Suspension? It made me hate wheels a bit less lol. They give like an extra block of clearance so you don't bottom out.

[@Zer0sLegion]

I haven't, i'll give it a look.

[@fireflash1596]

there is a mod i use called Mechanical keybinds i dont know if it wouldve helped with this but it makes setting up cranes and stuff easier

[@Zer0sLegion]

Yeah, I know about it, i've done a video on it.

[@CreepilyCrply]

Landing gear wheels

[@Zer0sLegion]

I mean, if you're using nanobots, you might as well be playing creative...

[@JCRS2]

Hey love ur content but could u do more of your like useful content for newer players Like more essential mods Or how to build a ship to get to space Or essential rovers / ships we'll need Tips

[@Zer0sLegion]

I have to keep a balance, a lot of people that watch my videos have been fans of the game for a long time and don't really want to watch that content. There's also only so many times I can cover top tips and mods 😅

[@draccofal1956]

warheads lots and lots of warheads lol

[@Zer0sLegion]

😅

[@Zer0sLegion]

It would definitely go further

[@SkillfulLupus]

the ultimate ooga booga

[@simplementepersona]

If it xomes to climbing, i prefer ro use hover vehicles with 0 friction

[@nbklegend7519]

slow down the rotation its just flinging you because of the speed

[@Zer0sLegion]

Yeah, I spent ages trying to strike the right balance, too fast you bounce, too slow you don't move.

[@Enakc]

Check out trailmakers

[@Zer0sLegion]

the game?

[@Enakc]

@@Zer0sLegion yeah

[@Ghent_Halcyon]

Interesting

[@Zer0sLegion]

Indeed

[@lbergam2011]

Weeeeeeeeeeee

[@Zer0sLegion]

It do be like that

[@fishbowlface4588]

Add the nanobots mod to ur server

[@Zer0sLegion]

No, and if people keep up like this, there won't be a server

[@arcanealchemist3190]

@@Zer0sLegion can u add dinosours to your server pls /s

[@Zer0sLegion]

@@arcanealchemist3190 SOON

[@ZeroZemial]

Well try a wider weel base and let them rotate slower like in real life it Should give u more grip and less bounce. it is like u driving on ice or mud if the "Weels" Spin 2 fast u dont have any grip in mud u dig yourself in and in ice well u know wat happends and here u bounce 2 much. u could also could give u more "Weels" with 45° differenz 2 the others sry 4 my bad eng have fun and keep going with your vids ^^

[@Zer0sLegion]

Sounds like a good idea, I'll give try

[@donaldeemmerich9435]

need bigger wheels

[@Zer0sLegion]

Or smaller ones.

[@donaldeemmerich9435]

@@Zer0sLegion ya that might work to