Shipping Container Update - Insulation, Flooring, Sanding, and Painting!

[@shawnhayden6674]

Right on. This is going to be a great KZbin story series.

[@Mazlem]

Record everything! Even short clips tied together are nice to show the progression. Also even if the bottom of the shelves are flat, I'm sure over time they'd sink into the foam with all the weight, but plywood wouldn't allow that so I'd re-consider doing the whole floor.

[@LithiumSolar]

For the shelving area, I plan to cut the insulation out where the shelving posts go, then filling the space back in with expanding foam. One shelving unit could have well over 1000lbs and will definitely have to be supported by the steel floor, not insulation or plywood. I still think I need something though just to cover the insulation so it looks nice.

[@Mazlem]

@@LithiumSolar Ah I must have missed that. Maybe do the plywood but cut out for the shelves?

[@HBPowerwall]

Another great video Mike!

[@LithiumSolar]

Thank you sir! :D

[@jimginnyohio]

Nice job Mike! That’s going to be great! Will be interested to see how cool/warm it will remain.

[@ghettobirdish]

It’s wood buddy, even though it’s kiln dried, glued and cut it will never stop expanding and contracting. Measure the same piece of wood everyday and it will be different everyday. Framing is called rough carpentry for the reason that the materials we have to work with always vary.

[@benssolarandbattery]

I love the color! Nice work!!

[@matthewspry4217]

Nice lets this get all out on a tray, nice!

[@MacroAggressor]

Hey, so a little tip with using tape measures: the metal hook at the end is designed with a length of play equal to the thickness of the hook. That way, you can push the end against a surface as well as pull it against the edge of an object and get an accurate measurement in both cases. At 1:48 it looks like you are holding the hook against the plywood instead of pulling against it, which would explain why one of them appears to measure 1/2" and the other 7/16". Just so you know going forward. Most of us have been bitten by that mistake... that extra 1/16" can make all the difference sometimes.

[@AndyMcBlane]

Looks great! The new colour is amazing

[@whatthefunction9140]

Love you enthusiasm bro.

[@dgm6655]

Next time use a long utility knife to cut insulation with ONE swipe. You can use a straight edge of sorts or meausre end to end to help if too long. It's easy.

[@2pi628]

Tip on your hinges: Drill and install grease certs into hinges for trouble free doors. Becareful where you place the certs. You don't want them to hit anything as the door swings.

[@LithiumSolar]

It did come with grease fittings in each hinge, but half of them were snapped off for whatever reason. I need to drill out the screw part that's left behind and find new fittings.

[@unclerico1980]

LithiumSolar if you haven’t done this already I’ve used left handed drill bits in the past and they work well in pulling out broken zerks. Harbor freight is a cheap place that sells replacement kits if interested as well

[@quangpham2281]

Shipping container as a shed, brilliant minds think alike.

[@offgridwanabe]

You do what I dream about lol nice shed.

[@DIYwithBatteries]

Looking good 😊👍

[@SpykerSpeed]

Great channel, man! Glad I found you.

[@Irishmule169]

The problem with the container is they sweat and sweat bad where you won’t have the insulation.. it happens from either cooling it down in the summer or heating it up in the winter.. other than that your carpenter work is pretty dam good..

[@LithiumSolar]

I am hoping the hvac will keep humidity under control. We'll see...

[@hardiksarraf9629]

Hay your very good at your work Your videos are amazing

[@dbchillin7747]

I don't understand why people don't give you more likes you had over 300 views and only 40 something likes come on people support your favorite channels

[@LithiumSolar]

Well to be fair, this isn't exactly the most interesting part of the project lol

[@suzukistrange9163]

box cutter for insulation then just bend across the line and it snaps fairly perfectly

[@LithiumSolar]

I tried using a box cutter and snapping, but the cuts weren't straight.

[@jamie8720]

It's made out of Core 10 Steel. Rust is not a problem. It basically self seals and once rust is seen it will not rust further.

[@LithiumSolar]

I've heard a lot of people saying this, but also read the rust could continue. I saw a lot of areas where it crept up under good paint and just didn't want to chance it.

[@pulesjet]

A bread knife works super good on that stuff.

[@LithiumSolar]

Ye, I've found several things do. The reciprocating saw I used originally was a dumb idea. But hey, I'm learning as I do this - not staging or scripting the videos lol

[@jimginnyohio]

Looks great Mike! One suggestion: You might want to add a galvanized metal roof on that at a slight angle so water and snow doesn’t stand on the flat roof. It may help it to last a bit longer. Also, do you mind sharing how much you paid for the container? Thanks and take care!

[@michaelgrodecki4159]

They go from $350-1100 on gov planet. Some are bare. Some have breaker boxes and wiring in them already along with a opening for a window mount ac unit.

[@jmonsted]

"19/32nds inch" Man, imperial units are silly. I envy the new shed, though :)

[@LithiumSolar]

Yes they are... I don't know why in the world we can't begin some sort of transition to metric.

[@jmonsted]

@@LithiumSolar 19/32s" is just 15mm :)

[@sreekumarUSA]

Jesper Monsted Hahaha🤣 Frankly I was a bit puzzled hearing that measurement calculation. The Imperial measurements are gradually weaning out, especially in the Nuclear Industry into Metric System. With all due respect..19/32 ! I’m aghast ( due to my lack of knowledge, of course ! )

[@salzanonathaniel]

I’ve been waiting for this for so long!! Thank you!

[@MrBrymstond]

Use Resin for Fiberglass sheathing mixed with hardener and brush it on. The rest of the shed will rust out before the treated areas...

[@richpalmisano1740]

Bread knife works great on that stuff for future reference

[@dtvking]

Looking good

[@ronmiller7916]

Did something a bit different in my utility van to campervan conversion for the floor. Used 3/4 plywood but it a few coats of a slurry I made on it 1st made from lime and water to prevent mold. I left the plywood floating and in almost 2 years it hasn't moved at all. On top of the plywood I have those 25" squares of grey foam you can get at harbor freight. All cabinets etc are then on the grey foam. I'm full-time in the van, no issues with the floor yet.

[@MrJFoster1984]

Try a wire cup disc any one else watching. Great for rust removal and they are cheaper and longer lasting than a flap disc. Cheers

[@AlexJPetrov]

Maybe some air vents could be useful to transfer heat and air.

[@quangpham2281]

Solar battery bank and you can have fans moving air out.

[@sulrich70]

Damn! This would have a goof W.A.F as well!

[@buzzsah]

seem to be watching backwards lol Just watched 2. looking good.

[@mr.c6383]

I noticed that your door hinges have grease fittings on them... you would do well to clean the paint off of those and grease them all... you will get 20+ more years out of the doors

[@LithiumSolar]

I need to buy new fittings for it. Half of them are broken off :(

[@strykerace]

How do you plan to vent the system? Do you have to get any kind of permit to add this to your property?

[@johnmoser7010]

Where did you buy the 10ft container, I've been looking to get a couple, but haven't found one.

[@Ogg13tube]

So I just found your channel, and intend to catch up on the content,, but I wanted to checkin and see what sort of safety you have in mind. May I ask how many cells you'll be using? 18/650s? I saw a comment down below mentioning your use of hvac, which will be a must. A few things you should consider if the hvac ever fails.. Emerrgency exhaust ports, displacement from your house, and predominant wind. Emergency exhaust ports. If this setup ever experiences thermal runaway, you are going to have a small star inside of that container, and the insulation will quickly go from keeping the cells cool to keeping them hot, until it becomes fuel. You could add a few holes, and bolt on a foot of basic cast iron black pipe at opposite corners. The amount of gases generated are ridiculous, and 30% of those gases are hydrogen, the balance being stuff you do not want anything to do with. Displacement from the residence. If this went thermal runaway, and it was all of 6 inches from your house, you will have flames surging out a few feet wherever they can escape the container. Just 200 lithium metal cells will sustain a white hot flame for several minutes. I once had the chance to test battery fires at the FAA's test laboratory in South Jersey. We tested ~400 Li-ion 18650s, and 200 Li metal. The Li ion was all billowy smoke until the internal temp rose high enough for spontaneous combustion, and boom, DRAGON FIRE. It was honestly very impressive, until we tested the Li metal cells. They caught fire faster, and the pressures involved meant flames shooting out sideways almost 3 feet, white hot, making the li ion cells look relatively tame. In case your setup enters runaway, you should consider it not being so close to your residence. The exhaust ports above give the hot pressurized gases a path of least resistance, Prevalent wind. Looking at the above, if you can place it somewhere the effluent is not poured all over your house, so much the better. I mentioned the ~30% hydrogen, the rest is often a good deal of fluorine within the combustion products of the organic solvents and separator materials in the cell. Finally, you could put a 50 gallon drum on top and plumb it to a sprinkler head. As a passive system it would keep you from losing the shipping container, and would help in arresting full-scale runaway, meaning less hazardous effluent. definitely need some sort of breaker once it's dowsed. again, I'll try to catch up on your vids, as I'd like to do this sort of thing myself. I used to have an ideally situated 8.5 kw system before my genius wife insisted on selling the the place. 3 years later the property has been valued at 60K higher than she bought... *eye roll*

[@edwardbyrd7667]

I would have left the lettering just for the novelty, but man you did a great job. That container will outlive you, rust or no rust. So how did the rehab battery last?

[@LithiumSolar]

I couldn't get the lettering off, so I just painted over it. I did leave the original name plates with the serial number and all that for the novelty feel though :) The rehab battery works great! It's the first time I've used a lithium drill battery and find it annoying how the BMS just shuts it off when it's low. But the reliability now is GREAT. With the NiCad I've used for YEARS, you can tell when the battery is nearing empty as the drill slows and sounds different.

[@edwardbyrd7667]

LithiumSolar Yeah lithium power tool batteries are all go until they’re no go. You can pop em out n in twice for an extra minute, maybe but you better have another if you ain’t done

[@curiouspeople6441]

Now add some 3/8 steel sheet at the side for some ballistic protection.

[@poman911]

The metal container is to act like a fire container in case your Lithium battery goes up in flame. Why put in all the wood to act as combustible?

[@LithiumSolar]

What kind of alternatives would you recommend for mounting components and the flooring?

[@pulesjet]

I'm in the process of setting ap 8 x 10ft tin shed up right now. Waiting for some help on the walls. Can't do it by my self. Wish I could find a 20ft unit like that cheap. Wonder how hot that color would get here in Southern New Mexico? Was going with White. LOL Wondering how your going to cool the thing.

[@LithiumSolar]

Have you checked govplanet.com? I'm not sure what kind of inventory is there now with the virus stuff going on, but might be worth watching if you're looking or a deal on a 20ft - but it sounds like you already have the 8x10. For cooling, the roof and front will be fully shaded. I don't think much will be required, but am planning on some sort of mini-split. I haven't figured out the details yet.

[@mygt8a4re]

Will cooling the inside cause condensation between the metal and insulation? How are you evacuating the heat? I'm asking because I'm looking to insulate the inside of my aluminum Florida room to temperature control it and trying to find the best way to do so without creating mold down the road. Great video content!

[@LithiumSolar]

People were warning me about the condensation. I have yet to see any in there... Maybe it's just my particular climate, don't know. I haven't figured out HVAC stuff yet. Right now I just leave the door open in the summer and it stays in an acceptable temperature range.

[@mygt8a4re]

@@LithiumSolar that's great news! Just to note, you won't see the condensing as it will be trapped in the gaps between the insulation and the metal. I'm sure your fine, just noting what I have researched. I feel my a/c unit and fan moving air would keep the condensing down, but I live in hot humid Fl!

[@mjuhasz]

What was the primary reason to switch the shed to a container? Fire savety? Have you considered building a small roof for the container to prevent rusting?

[@Crftbt]

Curious how you ended up getting the container in place on the blocks.

[@LithiumSolar]

I used a 3 ton floor service jack for cars to lift and carefully remove the 4x4 and drop slowly on the blocks.

[@michaelvarner]

Makes want to glue it to the floor with Liquid Nails to hold the wood to the floor insulation.... :)

[@LithiumSolar]

With the weight that will be on it, I don't think being held to the insulation will be a problem ;)

[@michaelvarner]

@@LithiumSolar Understandable...Keep up the good work..

[@IAmZen_007]

Nice job! Question... why did you put your shed against your house and not away from your house? (If possible)

[@sreekumarUSA]

Well, Number one reason could be shorter the output power cable , the better. Number two could be the space saved in the garage. Number three could be the Enthusiasm of making a Power House of one’s own.

[@LithiumSolar]

My property is a long rectangle shape. I have almost 1.5 acre, but anywhere I put it would result in a 100ft or more run of cabling - other than if I let it sit out in the middle of the yard which just looks silly. So while it is "possible" and would have preferred it farther away, this was the best location unfortunately.

[@fisherus]

Looking good! I don't know where you found such a small container or how much it cost you, but I haven't been able to find anything shorter than a 20 foot long one where I live for $2600.

[@LithiumSolar]

If you're in the US, check govplanet.com and search for CMCI 115A. There are lots of them :) Transportation is the difficult part...

[@StaitlyNatters]

Looks like a 10 foot container, a special order as they have to cut a 20 foot in half and modify it. They are often close to twice that of the standard container.

[@imkyle65]

Looks awesome! Where did you get such thick R-Max insulation?

[@mangomadness8635]

What’s the container for?

[@murphy48094]

If the batteries catch on fire, they're going to burn your home down. When the rubber gasket on the doors melts away, the fire is going to catch your gutter overhang and ignite the vinyl siding.

[@jptucsonaz8503]

Yeah.. "Electrical"... You mentioned batteries, and with all of that foiled insulation & aluminum foil tape, you're gonna need to line the whole floor & walls with plywood. Because you do not want to chance that a wire may "go wild" on you and make contact; nor do you want any chance of battery acid drips/splahes either!

[@ahaveland]

No battery acid to worry about with lithium cells - (clue is in the name of the channel!), but I agree with you that I would line the whole floor with plywood.

[@LithiumSolar]

Well damn, I hadn't even thought about the foil on the insulation being conductive... I'll have to test tomorrow.

[@jptucsonaz8503]

@@ahaveland sure, but sometimes folks do comparative testing, so I mentioned the possiblity...

[@ahaveland]

@@LithiumSolar Flip the insulation so the foil is on the outside. Add a thin foam liner to keep the foil from conducting heat from the shipping container metal. As you know, the foil is to reflect IR energy coming in from outside, but will also help keep heat in if necessary.

[@LithiumSolar]

It has foil on both sides. I never did test conductivity but decided I will be putting some sheetrock on both sides of the battery area.

[@MrJFoster1984]

Use an old timber hand saw to cut the insulation

[@sreekumarUSA]

060820/1114pst. Fantastic job. Meticulously done. Any rain protection, cabin lighting and ventilation considered? Now, looking forward to the Battery storage, wiring and PV Cells arrangement. Thanks again for the video. Have a great day, stay safe. 73s PS: You’d ground the Cabin, eventually, I’m sure.

[@LithiumSolar]

I am thinking off putting a few solar panels on the roof which would aid in rain protection, nothing other than that. No ventilation either, thinking some sort of mini-split system so I can keep it above 32F in the winter. I'm not sure on specifics just yet. And yes, absolutely needs grounded!

[@dillonmccormick2511]

You probably hate me but why do you have it so close to your house? I was under the impression that the whole point of having a “battery shed” was that it’s away from your home? I understand the shed is a metal enclosure but don’t you still run a massive risk with it being less than a foot from your home?

[@LithiumSolar]

There is nowhere else to put it. I don't think it's a problem. Preventing a fire is key in the first place.

[@muppet000111]

Do you have a special reason for storing the batteries in a container?

[@chrisdontkerr]

1 1/8" floor and 1 1/4" screws. not a lot of bite, hope it doesnt start to lift on you

[@ScottClevelandmi]

Next time rent an airless sprayer. We paint those in 1.5hrs including set up and clean up.

[@lasersbee]

1:48... Why ???

[@LithiumSolar]

If you're referring to the thickness of the floor - it's because it will be supporting a few hundred pounds of weight and I'm concerned about the foam being squished. I'm probably over-engineering but rather be safe than sorry

[@jimmybutler3728]

But tell us just what are you trying to do with this storage shed, like security of that which you are going to put into it or what?...

[@LithiumSolar]

I am building a (very) large off-grid solar system to power my home and this shed will house the batteries and power conversion equipment.

[@jimmybutler3728]

@@LithiumSolar Great idea best of luck even though you seem to know what you are doing, I thought of a green house or solar heater from the sun to cut down heating cost of the home as well as bigger solar water heater for heating up the hot water system and cut cost of electric power...

[@mjbirdClavdivs]

@@jimmybutler3728 As he said on another comment, the clue is in the name of the channel.

[@corkscrew4585]

lol utility knife works a lot better then a putty knife

[@LithiumSolar]

One would think that, but no. I tried it and no matter how carefully and slowly I went, I couldn't get a straight cut the whole way through.

[@corkscrew4585]

@@LithiumSolar well you need to run the blade against a straight edge, I would use a drywall square, that will sit flush with the edge and give your 4 foot ruler as am edge, there like 16$.

[@thelonewolf267]

They make knives for that material it looks like a long bread knife

[@aspopulvera9130]

Im having an X men vibes from the interior lol

[@zoomann1508]

Any chance you can join the rest of the world and convert measurements also into the metric system

[@taddmaxwell8363]

Niceee

[@justinmurphy2227]

Accidentally posted this on an older video.....so the post it here too! I NEED HELP! Hello sir! I must say with everything in the world going on right now, there's not a channel I would rather see a new video pop up from then yours! I do a lot with car audio and I would like to speak to you real quick about a few ideas that I've had. Just wanted to get your advice....but first..... It's also nice to see that you are using ferrules! I started telling a lot of my car audio friends about them a couple of years ago and it literally has changed their lives..... Especially if they own a shop or work at a shop. A stray strand or two can really cause a huge problem. Let's just say you will know very soon why everything should be fused correctly from the battery in a car LOL. Anyways I did not see an email address or any contact information. I'm going to leave my email address here so if you get a chance please email me and I'll send a return message with my questions. Thank you again so much for posting these videos and keeping solar energy and lithium technology very realistic and in layman's terms for all of us NOOBS! [e-mail] Thank you! ⚡💡⚡💡🔋🔋🔋🔋🔋

[@iiinsaiii]

🤦‍♂️ you could have used a normal box cutter to cut the insulation.

[@LithiumSolar]

You cant get straight square cuts in 2in foam with a normal box cutter.

[@dgm6655]

​@@LithiumSolar you can if you use a straight edge of sorts.

[@BastelPichi]

What happened with your subs??? Two weeks ago you only got arround 8500

[@LithiumSolar]

I guess my videos are popular...

[@ilonastevens1939]

The rust is normal on these containers it wil actualy protect it

[@slytherin9090]

Nice work! .. but tbh, the measurement is making my head spin.

[@jounik8980]

its 2020 use metric

[@BaronOfHell666]

I say poppycock. Oh not for anything you said or did in the video. I just like saying poppycock.

[@nilswegner2881]

85 degrees? Water boils at a hundred so that's freaking hot! I'm just kidding, of course I know you mean Fahrenheit but it would still have been useful for me and all the others who are smart enough to use Celsius if you had put in the correct temperature on screen

[@marcingp5]

BOMBS near House

[@LithiumSolar]

Where? I don't see any bombs?