LITTLE BIG MAN Clip - "Custer's Last Stand" (1970) Dustin Hoffman

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@davidmurray5399
@davidmurray5399 Жыл бұрын
Custer, according to the officers who found his body, had been stripped of his clothing and boots, and had suffered two wounds; one gunshot to the left temple area and one in the side of his chest. He was found in a tangle bodies, both men and horses, a few feet down the slope on the north side of the hill where the "Last Stand" memorial stands. Most of the indigenous warriors who fought Custer's command, did so on foot, as they didn't have time to get to their pony herds.
@Titus_Vespasianus
@Titus_Vespasianus Жыл бұрын
He also had his ears poked with sewing needles (the native women saying..."can you hear us now...") and was the only body not mutilated...
@Titus_Vespasianus
@Titus_Vespasianus Жыл бұрын
Shame those men died for his ego and stupidity...
@OttoMattak
@OttoMattak Жыл бұрын
Custer's body was mutilated, though not to the same extent as most other troopers. The details of his mutilation were not made public until after the death of Libby Custer. Captain Miles Keogh's body was treated with respect, and several bodies were apparently overlooked by the warriors. Anyways. Nasty business, that.
@Titus_Vespasianus
@Titus_Vespasianus Жыл бұрын
@OttoMattak Accounts vary as to what percent of the bodies were scalped or mutilated. Much of the clothing and personal belongings was missing. It is known that General Custer's body, though stripped of clothing, was neither scalped nor mutilated. He had been struck twice by bullets, either one of which could have been fatal. The burials were made in shallow graves and properly marked wherever identification was possible.
@OttoMattak
@OttoMattak Жыл бұрын
@@Titus_Vespasianus In regards to the previously mentioned mutilation of Custers body, his fingertips were severed, arrows were jammed into his groin, and his ears were punctured. But you are correct regarding the two bullet wounds and the fact that the vast majority of the troopers were indeed found naked.
@CarlosGonzalez-km9xr
@CarlosGonzalez-km9xr 8 ай бұрын
I love this movie. A gem
@joelcarlson1091
@joelcarlson1091 8 күн бұрын
The novel by Thomas Berger is one of the best I've ever read!
@melanieboss4038
@melanieboss4038 8 ай бұрын
Chief Dan George's line when his character goes up the mountain to die but doesn't: "Well, sometimes the magic works, and sometimes it doesn't." Best dry humor line ever.
@AngeloPoulos-c2t
@AngeloPoulos-c2t 7 ай бұрын
In the book he does cross over, book more interesting than the movie.
@tomsmith7742
@tomsmith7742 6 ай бұрын
Have you read the book? A fantastic experience, and such a better ending! But overall, the film was pretty faithful to the novel.
@jensenfox7423
@jensenfox7423 5 ай бұрын
lmmfao xo
@davedammann741
@davedammann741 Ай бұрын
"Was she enthusiastic..."
@michaelschaefer7962
@michaelschaefer7962 Жыл бұрын
Great sequence, and terrific performances by Mulligan and Hoffman.
@GilbertKisling
@GilbertKisling Жыл бұрын
custer was probly shitting his pants, not going nuts.
@philippecuenoud2949
@philippecuenoud2949 9 ай бұрын
Custer may have been pictured as stupid and megalomaniac, but he was no coward. "You go down there, if you've got the nerve". Custer wasn't Trump ot Putin: he had the nerve...
@armstronggeorge1533
@armstronggeorge1533 9 ай бұрын
​@phgilippecuenoud2949 gee you skipped right over Biden
@Sven_E07
@Sven_E07 7 ай бұрын
​@@philippecuenoud2949To blame Trump, your best president in decades, here is unhinged.
@philippecuenoud2949
@philippecuenoud2949 7 ай бұрын
@@Sven_E07 Trump would have shat his pants at Little Bighorn.
@richardcutt727
@richardcutt727 Жыл бұрын
Actually filmed in part on the Little Bighorn battlefield. Near Cedar coulee.
@grahamwritesagain
@grahamwritesagain 7 ай бұрын
And on the Real Bird property.
@PoochAndBoo
@PoochAndBoo 6 ай бұрын
@@grahamwritesagain The land of the greasy grass as the Sioux called it.
@l.robert2389
@l.robert2389 2 ай бұрын
​@WhitePOWERranger1a wide Ravine or valley carved by the flow of water, in this case down to the Little Bighorn River.
@DavidTucker-e2j
@DavidTucker-e2j 9 күн бұрын
Interesting bit of trivia....
@henrythompson5224
@henrythompson5224 5 күн бұрын
100th like 🎉🥳🎊
@delolee1271
@delolee1271 Жыл бұрын
Stepping on that actual battlefield is humbling. It really gives perspective to the loss of human life in that short but haunting battle
@brooklynbummer
@brooklynbummer Жыл бұрын
This was a fairly accurate portrayal of what happened.
@whiskeytango9769
@whiskeytango9769 Жыл бұрын
i agree, I was there a few years ago, seeing markers of where men fell was very humbling.
@31terikennedy
@31terikennedy Жыл бұрын
@@brooklynbummer No it wasn't. It was pure Hollywood.
@The-Wolf-with-no-name
@The-Wolf-with-no-name Жыл бұрын
​@@31terikennedyit wasn't it was factual. It is said Custer and his men went down fighting. They had arrows in their backs. They where knocked on their heads. They were chased down like rabbits. They were trying to run away. That is Custer and his legacy... he tried to run away.
@31terikennedy
@31terikennedy Жыл бұрын
@@The-Wolf-with-no-name Who said? The Last Stand Myth came straight from the Indians. Every man was slaughtered by the Indians with the Indian women murdering the wounded.. Custer feinted an attack at the river to relieve pressure on Reno/Benteen and then led the Indians away to developed a defensive position around Last Stand Hill. This was Benteen's opportunity to attack the Indians from behind as the Indians were changing direction. It would have been Custer's anvil to Benteen's hammer. Custer needed Benteen to come quick because, otherwise, his position would be enveloped and over run. Benteen disobeyed his orders.
@robertsutphen2333
@robertsutphen2333 9 ай бұрын
I’ve visited the battleground twice and visitor’s center. It’s very well preserved and unchanged. Excellent story telling and lectures given by park Rangers .
@robertsutphen2333
@robertsutphen2333 4 ай бұрын
@rockwellrhodes7703 …..have you been there? Bottom line ! Have you been there ?
@NormAppleton
@NormAppleton 2 күн бұрын
Does it tell the story of Custer being a clown?
@charleswofford6296
@charleswofford6296 3 ай бұрын
I think part of what makes this portrayal of Custer so compelling is that it is pretty authentic. No, Custer was not a literal madman; as a soldier he was probably more reserved in his demeanor. *But* he did have an inflated opinion of himself, and it *was* his anger at President Grant that motivated him to go to LBH in the first place.
@brianferris8668
@brianferris8668 10 ай бұрын
My all-time favourite film.
@douglastaggart9360
@douglastaggart9360 10 ай бұрын
The mini series son of the morning star is by far the most accurate version of the battle
@michaelcummingsherrera1232
@michaelcummingsherrera1232 8 ай бұрын
And it's on KZbin too.
@jwainer4397
@jwainer4397 6 ай бұрын
really wish they would make this a major motion picture with the quality it deserves
@tomsmith7742
@tomsmith7742 6 ай бұрын
But not nearly as much fun.
@henrythompson5224
@henrythompson5224 5 күн бұрын
Rodney.A.Grant the best Crazy Horse.
@kevinburnson
@kevinburnson Күн бұрын
Second only to the thoughtful, well grounded narrative by Custer Apollo. The undisputed king of what happed to Custer and his army.
@Alf1eN0akes
@Alf1eN0akes Жыл бұрын
A great movie ! It makes my heart soar like a hawk
@Hunpecked
@Hunpecked Жыл бұрын
It makes me want to eat. 😄
@balrog322
@balrog322 Жыл бұрын
“Not now, I’m digesting.”
@davidfoss4836
@davidfoss4836 6 ай бұрын
It's sinister nonsense. The "Indians" were armed with 16 shot Spencer repeating rifle a week before the battle. Custer was selected because of his impetuous nature. The State Department needed the incident to seize lands for private wealth funds. Logistics prevents 10,000 Hunter/gatherers from long term proximity, timing was key.
@AmyFriedman-q4u
@AmyFriedman-q4u 6 ай бұрын
Actually l love how They depicted the arrogance of Custer. We all reveled in his delete what a Schmuck
@AmyFriedman-q4u
@AmyFriedman-q4u 6 ай бұрын
In his defeat
@thomasmcdaniel6264
@thomasmcdaniel6264 6 ай бұрын
This movie was not meant to be authentic. I remember watching it in 1970 when I was in the Army and this was what it was about...Vietnam and other political and economic issues of the day. ( in order to understand the times, you had to live in them.)
@ryanmcgowan9199
@ryanmcgowan9199 Ай бұрын
really I didn't know that jews were in the wild west? its just more hollywood nonsense. read the memoirs of the times instead of this propaganda
@ronaldrussell5481
@ronaldrussell5481 Жыл бұрын
Saw this movie when originally released in early 70's, still one of my favorites. The best part IMO, of this particular part was when Hoffman tricked Custer into going down in the valley." So, there are no Indians there? I didn't say that, there thousands of Indians there, but this time they aren't defenseless women and children, they're Cheyene and Souix braves and when they get done with you, you'll be just a little grease spot." Or something to that effect. Anyway, a great movie.
@kennethmorgan6516
@kennethmorgan6516 Жыл бұрын
And then he closes with, “you go down there, if you got the nerve.”
@sgt1terrence
@sgt1terrence 8 ай бұрын
As a native we love this movie ha😂
@harleydavidson6851
@harleydavidson6851 7 ай бұрын
Yup...saw this in JHS..Love this flick.. 😊God Bless
@Elitist20
@Elitist20 6 ай бұрын
@@kennethmorgan6516 And Custer replies: 'Still trying to outsmart me, aren't you, mule-skinner? You want me to think that you don't want me to go down there, but the subtle truth is, you really *don't* want me to go down there!' 🤪
@jwainer4397
@jwainer4397 6 ай бұрын
"I. Had. Him!"
@katsu-graphics5634
@katsu-graphics5634 Жыл бұрын
I love the sound track, how the battle subsides and you only hear horses clopping about.
@tommcnally3646
@tommcnally3646 9 ай бұрын
One of my a time favorites ❤
@ardradiva
@ardradiva 11 ай бұрын
Truly great movie. Custer wasn't insane, just made a fatal mistake that day dividing his forces.
@fontenoyjoe
@fontenoyjoe 11 ай бұрын
He was a prima donna who thought himself invincible and discounted the abilities of the native Americans
@CountvonCount33
@CountvonCount33 10 ай бұрын
Crazy Horse outmaneuvered him, end of story and Custer's life.
@HunterBidenscrack
@HunterBidenscrack 10 ай бұрын
@@CountvonCount33 more like crazy horse had the numbers along with Custer making stupid decisions
@kennethmorgan6516
@kennethmorgan6516 6 ай бұрын
He made that all too common American mistake of underestimating an enemy. A lesson that Americans still haven’t learned.
@JMENHART100
@JMENHART100 4 ай бұрын
He was an egomaniac that did not listen to his own scouts.
@rbee914
@rbee914 3 ай бұрын
What a great film...truly a "must see" classic.
@starguard4122
@starguard4122 10 ай бұрын
When I was little this was one on my all-time favorite movies 🥰
@dnola6887
@dnola6887 Жыл бұрын
There are many questions about what happened at the Battle of Little Big Horn to Custer and the 5 companies directly under his command that were wiped out to a man. While he was certainly a publicity seeker, Custer was a skilled, intelligent, courageous and aggressive battlefield commander, both during the Civil War and during the Indian Wars (the morality of his conduct against Indians is a separate issue). Custer was many things and made many mistakes, resulting in him being dead in the late afternoon of June 25, 1876 with an arrow reportedly showed up his manhood. However: He was not the lunatic portrayed by Mulligan. A few facts: Custer was starting to go bald and had a fairly severe haircut before the 7th Cavalry left for his last expedition and on the day of battle which was warm, his famous buckskin jacket was reportedly rolled up behind his saddle. More importantly, Custer's Last Stand was probably not commanded by George A. Custer. His non-mutilation wounds consisted of a shot in in the chest, which would have been fatal, and from which he bled, and a shot to his left temple, from which he did not bleed. Custer was right-handed, so he is not the one who shot himself in the head. Although many scenarios have been suggested, it seems likely that Custer received a mortal wound at the start of his battle, incapacitating or killing him at the crucial moment when he was needed most to exercise command to rally his command to him for a defense or unified breakout. Instead, when looking at a map of the markers where the bodies of the 7th Cavalry troopers were found, it appears that there were 6 major groupings of troops, each consisting of each of Custer's 5 companies, and then the Last Stand hillside. For example, one can see where soldiers from Captain Yates's and Captain Tom Custer's commands were, but both men's bodies were found in the Last Stand area. Capt. Tom Custer, Lt. Col. Custer's younger brother, who would die along with their younger brother Boston, brother-in-law Lt. James Calhoun and nephew Henry Reed. Calhoun is another example of how the disintegration of command may have taken place, as he was found dead next to his second-in-command, but some distance from the bulk of the dead men of his company, indicating that the survivors of his decimated company were trying to link up with other survivors (likely the company of Capt. Myles Keogh), but could not make it there before being killed, or Keogh's unit being overrun. But the idea may have of everyone gathered around Custer fighting it out is incorrect. First, he was likely dead or dying when his unit was swarmed. The map of the battlefield dead looks like that of a number of different companies spread out over the battlefield, separately attacked and overwhelmed, unable to link up to form a cohesive defense, with some survivors of the initial onslaught managing to get as far as The Last Stand hillside, where, trapped, they made their last stand. It seems likely that one of the final acts of the battle was that to make sure Custer was dead, and could not be tortured, one of his men shot Custer in the head. As to how Custer got there, dead, with someone, likely one of his own officers, or even one of his brothers shooting him in the head just to make sure he couldn't be tortured, is certainly due to mistakes Custer made, but there are many sources of ownership for the disaster. First, the entire expedition: A march by General Crook, a column led by Col. Gibbon, and a column led by General Terry and Custer, was based on the premise that they were going after 500-750 warriors, no more than 800 warriors in the entire region. The commanders made all their calculations based on this number, which turned out to be wildly inaccurate. Custer made all his decisions based on that figure, right up to the moment when he finally saw the village with his own eyes. Custer had justification for believing that his 7th Cavalry could handle any Indian war band of 500-800 warriors. The problem was that he was facing 1,500-2,500+ warriors. Then things started to fall apart before the Battle of the Little Big Horn took place. On June 17, Crook's column was ambushed by a large force led by Crazy Horse. Only the alertness of Indian scouts and the delaying action of over 100 Crow Indian allies of Crook bought enough time for Crook to get his men ready for the attack. Crook was shocked by the number of Indians and though he successfully drove off the attack, his column of more than 1,000 soldiers and Indian allies remained stationary for weeks. Custer, Terry and Gibbon never knew this. News of the victory spread like wildfire with many Indians joining up with the Indians, swelling their numbers. Gibbon joined up with the Custer/Terry column, with Custer sent off with the 7th on a reconnaissance, Gibbon and Terry going off in a different direction, planning to meet on June 26th or 27th on the Little Big Horn. Custer had discretion to change his orders as he deemed appropriate under changes in circumstance. Custer turns down 4 companies of the 2nd Cavalry, believing that he doesn't need them, again due to the belief in the size of the force he is facing. He knows what the 7th Cavalry can do, he doesn't know the capabilities of the 2nd Cavalry companies. He plans to push hard, just like the Indians do, so he also rejects 4 Gatling guns. The Gatlings are mounted like artillery and are relatively slow to move. Further, when deployed, the crews are standing, fully exposed. They might have been of use to Reno in his part of the action, but not really for Custer's command, which seems to have been suddenly assaulted from multiple fronts, making it questionable whether the Gatlings could have been deployed in time to assist Custer's action. Custer force marches, plans to personally scout on June 25th, then launch a morning attack on June 26th. However, back tracking their trail, his scouts report that their march has been discovered by Indians. It seems these were Indians leaving the village, but Custer reasonably believes that he has been discovered and that he needs to attack the village his scouts have found. He is told it is the biggest village they have ever seen. At this point, however, Custer would believe that a village of 800 warriors would match that description; he still has no idea what he is facing. Custer had divided his command of 12 companies into 4 portions: 1 company is guarding the pack train of supplies, he has command of 5 companies, Major Reno has command of 3 companies, and Capt. Benteen has command of the remaining 3 companies. Custer has made a mistake that the opposition he is unknowingly facing renders fatal: He has sent Benteen off on a wild goose chase. Believing he has to act before the Indians can flee, he orders Reno to attack, sets off, and then sends a message for Benteen to join him, bringing the packs. Custer means for Benteen to bring the ammunition packs in the event of a prolonged fight. However, both of his junior officers fail Custer. Reno forms a skirmish line but when the top Indian scout who is next to Reno is killed by a headshot that splatters Reno, Reno orders a retreat, despite hardly any casualties at that point. There is evidence that Reno's situation would have become dangerous in the not too distant future, but Custer needs every minute Reno can buy to distract the Indians. Custer's plan is to attack the rear of the village, taking women and children hostage to force the Indians to lay down their weapons and return to the reservation. He wants Benteen to reinforce him. Benteen gets the message but needs to water his horses. Benteen despises Custer and makes no effort to reach Custer. Benteen links up with Reno, and the pack train, and their 300+ command holds out until relieved. Whether Benteen could have reached Custer's command is an open question, as is what effect such a joinder would have had. The Custer battlefield was on an open area, not very defensible. Reno's location was more defensible. It is possible that Benteen could have arrived in time for Custer's command, at least part of it, to escape. Or he might have linked up before the assault began on Custer's command, enabling Custer to keep moving and reach the end of the village and begin his assault. This might have ended in victory. It is also quite possible that Benteen and his 3 companies might have been wiped out with Custer, and that Reno and the pack train, without Benteen's 3 companies, might have also been wiped out. It is also possible that Custer's command was spread out because they were on the lookout for Benteen. Custer and his command died due to bad military intelligence impacting every level of the campaign and actual battle, Crook's failure to continue his advance, excellent tactics by the Indians in response to Custer, Custer's failure to keep Benteen on a short leash, Custer's failure to scout the battlefield and make decisions based on what he believed he faced, instead of decisions based upon what he actually faced. He almost certainly paid for it with his life too early to impact the battle once it started, with that loss of command cohesion dooming the men he had brought to the battle.
@jimholmes5395
@jimholmes5395 Жыл бұрын
Ahhh, I think you missed some details, but that goes without saying that this commentary is - oh - 97% accurate. There are some things you missed, so I'm going to add to that. The Indians had fire superiority as many of them had Henry repeating rifles provided them by the Indian Bureau. Custer's men had only the 1-shot Springfield carbine which jammed when it got hot. Custer also based his tactic on the fact that in a vast majority of surprise attacks - Indians fled - period. This time they stood and fought. Contrary to popular belief, a brave didn't have to fight when asked. A chief had no authority to order a brave to fight. Rather they fought only when they wanted to. Obviously, they all wanted to this time. But to think that Custer would have had any hope of a victory under any set of circumstances is really stretching it. Not with those numbers. Custer was good at his job. I'll agree with you on that. But he was not God. It would have required the very hand of God to pull a victory out of that debacle. Aside from all that baloney, I still give you an A!
@dnola6887
@dnola6887 Жыл бұрын
@@jimholmes5395 There is an archeological dig site on the battlefield that was named "Henryville" near the location of Lt. Calhoun's Company L, where many casings from Henry rifles were discovered, with the casings found shown to match to 20 different Henry rifles. The US army issued to its infantry the 1873 Model Springfield rifle, to the infantry, and the carbine version to the cavalry. Custer had commanded brigades which were equipped with the Spencer 7-shot repeating rifle during the Civil War, so he, as did most other serving officers, knew how effective repeating rifles could be. The Springfield was a good weapon; it had greater range and muzzle velocity than the Spencer, and more than twice the range of the Henry rifle. At the Battle of the Rosebud, 5 companies of cavalry led by a Lt. Col. were cut off. They would be saved thanks to Crow and Shoshoni allies, but also by 2 companies of infantry who used their infantry versions of the Springfield to use long-range rifle fire to keep the Indians at bay, allowing for a successful withdrawal. The Springfield could fire usually at least 12-13 rounds per minute, though rates as high as 25 rounds per minute by experts in ordinance trials were recorded (the 7th Cavalry, having been issued the rifles just a month earlier, would not have been capable of such rates). The Springfield had the stopping power to bring down a horse with a single shot, something the Henry could not match. The Henry and the Springfield had similar sustained rates of fire. But the Henry, with 1 round in the chamber, and 15 in the magazine, could fire 16 shots before needing to reload. The weakness was that after that burst of firing, there was a long reload period. The Indians are estimated to have about 200 such rifles, almost as many repeating rifles as the men in Custer's command. It is believed that what happened to Company L is that it was suddenly ambushed by Henry rifle fire, and decimated, retreated toward Capt. Myles Keogh's Company I, with few, if any, making it. Calhoun and his executive officer died together before they could reach Keogh's stand. Again, by looking at the map, it seems that this may have happened to the other companies as well, ambushed and assaulted with a burst of fire from repeating rifles, inflicting severe losses in a brief period of time. Would Custer's men have survived if they'd had repeating rifles? Not in the Last Stand battle as we know it today. Repeating rifles would have magnified Reno's fire power, perhaps enabling him to not panic and stay longer, giving Custer additional time to link up with Benteen and his 3 companies and Capt. MacDougall with Company B guarding the packtrain including the extra ammunition (those 4 companies and the packtrain would join Reno). But as matters stand, repeating rifles would not have changed the devasting series of ambushes that appear to have devastated his 5 companies in such a brief period of time. They might have enabled the survivors to last longer, but every dead soldier's rifle was picked up by an Indian, with the result being that the rifle firepower of the Indians only increased as the battle went on, with the same being true if the Indians were picking up repeating rifles instead of Springfields. Could Custer have won? I don't think so. As you correctly point out, the numbers were severely stacked against him. His only chance of winning would have been for Reno to hold the attention of the Indians long enough for him to get into the rear of the village and take women and children hostage before the Indians could react. The odds of this would be like drawing an inside Royal straight flush, while holding 2 cards: Astronomical. And I see no way that happens with Benteen and Macdougall with the ammo so separated from his command as matters unfolded on June 25, 1876.
@jimholmes5395
@jimholmes5395 Жыл бұрын
@dnola6887 The rates given for the Springfield are under ideal conditions. In the field it was different. Men had to pry the spent cartridges with their knives, so the rate of fire was far less. All the same, it would end as it did either way.
@ge2623
@ge2623 Жыл бұрын
Takes a lot of courage to murder.
@jimholmes5395
@jimholmes5395 Жыл бұрын
@@ge2623 And how would you know?
@hookipaboy3412
@hookipaboy3412 8 ай бұрын
I remember watching this movie when I was a kid with my dad,it was one of his favorites!!!Aloha from Hawaii🤙🏽
@razorshark9320
@razorshark9320 Жыл бұрын
Most movies that had Custer you were hoping for him to live, but watching this film you want to see him dead. When I first saw this film and Soldier Blue it changed my point of view of the Native American. I love the fact that they filmed not to far from the real battlefield. This is my favorite Dustin Hoffman film next to Marathon Man and Rain Man.
@DavidBroadley-tw7ks
@DavidBroadley-tw7ks 10 ай бұрын
Yes this was great marathon man and Dustin Hoffman played a ex con bank robber in a excellent film called straight time him and Harry Dean stanton 👍
@damkayaker
@damkayaker 3 ай бұрын
Who does Dustin Hoffman portray in this movie? Is he an Indian Scout or a soldier?
@razorshark9320
@razorshark9320 3 ай бұрын
@@damkayaker Hoffman plays Jack Crab a boy who is raised by the Cheyeene Indians and becomes Little Big Man. He tricks Custer into riding to his death.
@damkayaker
@damkayaker 3 ай бұрын
@@razorshark9320 Thanks ... I never watched this movie. Since asking you about it I have read up on it and now know why the Indian named Younger Bear wraps Jack in a blanket and carries him off at the end of this clip.
@jamesmatheson5115
@jamesmatheson5115 Жыл бұрын
I was 16 and just moved to Melbourne with my GF, this movie left a huge impression on me, it disturbed me greatly, it was loosely base upon the massacre in Vietnam by U.S. soldiers.
@rcrinsea
@rcrinsea 8 ай бұрын
My Lai?
@nedmerrill6228
@nedmerrill6228 7 ай бұрын
I thought you were talking out your you know what about Vietnam but you are right.
@jamesmatheson5115
@jamesmatheson5115 7 ай бұрын
@@rcrinsea Yes you are right, also the Mỹ Khe massacre.
@jamesmatheson5115
@jamesmatheson5115 7 ай бұрын
@@nedmerrill6228 I do that also when Im talking to friends, other times Im pretty much on the money, but always happy to be corrected.
@jwainer4397
@jwainer4397 6 ай бұрын
It was real life, didn't have to be based on anything(?) It's clearly a film meant to make fun of the military as a protest, and yes during Vietnam. But the massacres were there's alone.
@kimdurig1322
@kimdurig1322 Күн бұрын
I saw at the theater when it first came out, what a story and a cast
@robertwaid3579
@robertwaid3579 Жыл бұрын
To JoBlo Movie Clip's: Thank You for Sharing that Excellent Clip. From an Excellent rendition of a Film pertaining too the Little Bighorn Battle. I was completely impressed by the length, & conciseness of Your Clip. As well as the Fact it Show's actual Area's of the Battlefield where the Fight took Place. Such as Medicine Tail Coulee, where Custer was Turned by the Hostiles. When He tried Crossing the Little Bighorn River too Attack the Main Indian Encampment along it's Bank's. That as I mentioned was Very Impressive of You. So I'm Saying Thank You Again Very Much. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@robertmorgan8104
@robertmorgan8104 Жыл бұрын
The terrain is quite accurate.
@l.robert2389
@l.robert2389 9 күн бұрын
@@robertmorgan8104 should be. It was filmed on a portion of the battlefield on land adjoining what the government owns.
@fishyc150
@fishyc150 11 ай бұрын
In my youth custer was a brave daring soldier defeated by overwhelming numbers. Then in the 70s he was a megalomaniac nut case who lost because he ignored procedure. Now he is seen as a talented commander who made decisions based on available Intel and fought heroically but was out played by a tenacious fearless enemy.
@bennettpatten4191
@bennettpatten4191 10 ай бұрын
Much less known was the different tribes were fighting amongst themselves. A number of Indians were killed and scalped by Indians.
@jameswahnee-vn5nt
@jameswahnee-vn5nt 8 ай бұрын
This is the words of the Elders. Warriors were not to kill him. Not worthy of a Warriors Death. The woman and children beat and stoned him to death 💀.
@TheGrenadier97
@TheGrenadier97 8 ай бұрын
Indeed. "Indians fighting indians" is the absolute reality of social interaction since Caim and Abel. The "white man" eventually prevailed in some places but oftentimes he was merely another player in a chess bigger than him. History is grey.
@Thunderchild-gz4gc
@Thunderchild-gz4gc 8 ай бұрын
He's still hated nonchalantly today.
@BezmenovDisciple
@BezmenovDisciple 6 ай бұрын
⁠@@Thunderchild-gz4gcAnytime you hear someone talk about how Custer was idiotic or whatever, you automatically know they got all their history lessons from Hollywood.
@alanfoster6589
@alanfoster6589 Жыл бұрын
When Chief Dan George did not win Best Supporting Actor for this film is when I stopped giving a damn about the Oscars.
@jakeroberts7435
@jakeroberts7435 Жыл бұрын
We must endeavor to persevere
@jimholmes5395
@jimholmes5395 Жыл бұрын
I never gave a damn. What took you so long?
@JOSEPHCHARLESCOLIN2024
@JOSEPHCHARLESCOLIN2024 2 ай бұрын
Many moons ago, when the earth was young and not sick.
@WhoIsthetrueAmerican
@WhoIsthetrueAmerican Ай бұрын
😂😊
@johnmac3410
@johnmac3410 Жыл бұрын
They should have showed the following scene where Younger Bear drops Little Big Man in Live Skins tent and declares because he saved Little Big Man he may kill him and not become an evil person.
@aldosigmann419
@aldosigmann419 Жыл бұрын
Lols i remember that 'logic' ! He hated LBM but couldn't kill him as he saved his life once - oh what a bind!
@northern_lights1990
@northern_lights1990 Жыл бұрын
You mean old lodge skins
@Nik-nd1mv
@Nik-nd1mv 5 ай бұрын
Dustin Hoffmann is in my humble opinion THE best american actor. Little Big Man, Tootsie, Rainman.
@jameswhite5720
@jameswhite5720 8 күн бұрын
The Graduate, Marathon Man
@michelangelobuonarroti916
@michelangelobuonarroti916 3 ай бұрын
"You want me to think that you don't want me to go down there, but the subtle truth is, you really DON'T want me to go down there."
@andrewmcauley5202
@andrewmcauley5202 7 ай бұрын
I never liked this movie as a kid because I thought the portrayal of the battle was silly, but it's still way more authentic than Ridley Scott's Napoleon.
@R3dp055um
@R3dp055um 6 ай бұрын
Yes, this is true, but that's a very low standard of comparison, don't you think? Sort of like saying someone is more humble than Donald Trump, or more competent than Joe Biden.
@andrewmcauley5202
@andrewmcauley5202 6 ай бұрын
@@R3dp055um fair point.
@ltraf9701
@ltraf9701 3 ай бұрын
Thank you
@harpman1876
@harpman1876 3 ай бұрын
The battle scenes were shot very near the actual battlefield.
@pcbacklash_3261
@pcbacklash_3261 5 ай бұрын
Not anywhere close to historical reality, but an amusing performance by Richard Mulligan! 🙂
@mikescarlett3186
@mikescarlett3186 Жыл бұрын
Col. Mustard really assed that up.
@toothpick4649
@toothpick4649 Жыл бұрын
Most of Custers male relatives were killed. Including Tom Custer who had Two Congressional Medals of Honour. It's sad the movie portrays Custer as Mentally deficient he was a very brave man. and a man of his time, his charges in battle during the civil war helped win the day for the Union.
@Fulcrox
@Fulcrox Жыл бұрын
mah dude was so brave he was razing native villages
@reycesarcarino4653
@reycesarcarino4653 Жыл бұрын
He was also lucky to have graduated from west point considering he was a terrible student of war
@4_vaccuum_salesman_of_marr944
@4_vaccuum_salesman_of_marr944 Жыл бұрын
He did okay during the Civil War.@@reycesarcarino4653
@jacktattis
@jacktattis Жыл бұрын
Fighting a conventional war {at the time]and fighting indians are two very different things .I read somewhere recently that he ignored his Indian scouts telling him that the Sioux were many times larger than his force .
@andrewstackpool4911
@andrewstackpool4911 Жыл бұрын
Correct, but as always with history and as this stupid movie shows the truth can be altered to fit the mood of the day.
@TheTurk56523
@TheTurk56523 Жыл бұрын
I was cheering for Crazy Horse and the routing of General Custer's troops after the killing of women and children earlier in the movie.
@balrog322
@balrog322 Жыл бұрын
Crazy Horse wasn’t a character in the movie.
@josefmengele181
@josefmengele181 Жыл бұрын
​@@balrog322he was the commander who cares if he wasn't in the movie
@balrog322
@balrog322 Жыл бұрын
@@josefmengele181 LMAO. Native-Americans didn’t have “commanders.” Get an education before you try to correct your betters.
@josefmengele181
@josefmengele181 Жыл бұрын
@@balrog322 tell that too sitting bull crazy horse and the entire 7th calvary clearly you need the education Custer 2.0
@josefmengele181
@josefmengele181 Жыл бұрын
@@balrog322 bet you support ukraine and Isreal eh goy?
@tomsmith7742
@tomsmith7742 6 ай бұрын
If you look closely at the end of the battle you can see several braves "taking coup"- touching an enemy (alive or dead) with a harmless "coup stick", or a light touch with a weapon such as a lance or hatchet, just to show a kind of "in your face" fearlessness, or to share or honor the enemy's strength or courage. A very accurate detail. During battle, many braves would do this, at great risk to themselves, but usually only if other braves were around to witness the act and verify that it actually happened. It was one of the most important ways that great military reputations were made, and it was considered a more impressive act than actually killing or wounding an enemy. Generally, it was only done to an enemy fighter of great courage or fame- thus heightening the risk factor. It also helps to explain why the Indians were so often defeated, especially in the early battles- they expected the white soldiers to fight the same way they did- as much for "sport" and personal glory as for actual wins and losses.
@NeilalanBrown-zc4qb
@NeilalanBrown-zc4qb 9 ай бұрын
200 Calvary against !0,000 Sioux braves . What the HE!@# was he thinking .
@noodleschalepah5934
@noodleschalepah5934 5 ай бұрын
Don't forget the Cheyenne brave
@tastygravy6880
@tastygravy6880 4 ай бұрын
It was between 1500 to 2000, a mixture of Sioux, Lakota and Comanche.
@Noahraykeeper
@Noahraykeeper 2 ай бұрын
Man i love being native
@j.l.armendariz1483
@j.l.armendariz1483 Ай бұрын
If you haven't seen this movie, please do, it's awesome!
@bobbyperu4683
@bobbyperu4683 5 ай бұрын
And then they opened the Little Big Horn casino. Now everyone is happy.
@Oldmanintheforest
@Oldmanintheforest 2 ай бұрын
A prime example of how an arrogant commander can get all of his soldiers killed.
@Thunderchild-gz4gc
@Thunderchild-gz4gc 2 ай бұрын
This isn't a documentary
@tastygravy6880
@tastygravy6880 4 ай бұрын
So Custer just goes insane at the end and starts speaking to the senate 😅😅😅
@mamumaumau7205
@mamumaumau7205 6 ай бұрын
This is one of my favorite movies !!! I could watch it once a year for life !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@theanimalguy7
@theanimalguy7 4 ай бұрын
2:25 Cavalry Flip 3:13 The Major’s fate 4:03 The Sergeant Major’s fate 4:10 … or maybe not 4:17 Poor trooper in the background 4:44 Custer’s fate
@delverneseaman8074
@delverneseaman8074 18 күн бұрын
As a Native American it was our last stand. If read the history of the battle, it was the Native Tribes that fled after there battle. But Native are awesome warriors to defend our civilian populous.
@andygossard4293
@andygossard4293 3 ай бұрын
*THIS WAS* the best Western of all time. Not the Hotel
@4700_Dk
@4700_Dk Жыл бұрын
Custer should have listened to his Scouts.
@samlittle786
@samlittle786 3 ай бұрын
but his famous words "There's not enough indians in the world to defeat the 7th cavalry" He certainty ate those words
@shanekilpatrick3378
@shanekilpatrick3378 7 ай бұрын
Ol mate finally paid his life debt to Jack. Imagine the sheer joy of his victory dance😀👍🏻
@thewkovacs316
@thewkovacs316 Жыл бұрын
sadly, this was the first movie that actually told some of the truth about what we did to the native american
@mikeborgmann
@mikeborgmann Жыл бұрын
They explain all the casinos we gave them?
@maciejbzura9057
@maciejbzura9057 Жыл бұрын
​@@mikeborgmanncasino are a little thing compared to literal genocide lmao
@inigolarumbe1594
@inigolarumbe1594 Жыл бұрын
PALESTINA??????
@balrog322
@balrog322 Жыл бұрын
@@mikeborgmann. Lame.
@josefmengele181
@josefmengele181 Жыл бұрын
@@balrog322 pissant
@Conn30Mtenor
@Conn30Mtenor Жыл бұрын
Not quite how it happened but close. Custer and his column was wiped out in about 15 minutes but Reno managed to make it through the night and slipped away.
@slicklandy7819
@slicklandy7819 Жыл бұрын
And the last troopers ran away and did not stand. Why have they not dug them up in that ravine and put markers down?
@jimholmes5395
@jimholmes5395 Жыл бұрын
No, Reno did not slip away. He and Benteen made a stand and were rescued by Terry and Gibbon.
@slicklandy7819
@slicklandy7819 Жыл бұрын
@@jimholmes5395 not talking about Reno, talking about troopers with Custer.
@jimholmes5395
@jimholmes5395 Жыл бұрын
Then why is Reno mentioned in the post above? Or did you skim instead of actually read?@@slicklandy7819
@d.owczarzak6888
@d.owczarzak6888 Жыл бұрын
Reno didn't slip away. The Indians tried but failed to take the hill Reno's men were on. The next day Terry's column arrived about 15 hours after the Indians pulled out of the area. Reno's men were still there.
@maximodiaz7224
@maximodiaz7224 5 ай бұрын
Una de las frases que más recuerdo de esta pelicula es " no encontrás sioux el a pradera que no haya estado en "Little Big Horn" ...viste la cantidad de veteranos de Malvinas en el desfile?...
@mg4721
@mg4721 5 ай бұрын
Crazy, they shot this at little big horn, where it happened. I do photography for the group that does this every year here.
@Wolfspiderxl
@Wolfspiderxl 6 ай бұрын
I like this film mainly for the musical soundtrack. ...very authentic
@Loadacodswallop
@Loadacodswallop 5 ай бұрын
Do you know what the soundtrack is called? Would love to hear it
@receiving9067
@receiving9067 2 ай бұрын
Watching this portrayal of Custer was giving me Zap Brannigan vibes. "Stop dying you cowards!"
@fig1115
@fig1115 11 ай бұрын
this was such a strange film to put out in America .many Americans do not seem to understand this sort of satire ,the comments appear to confirm it .i remember being a little unsettled when i was a kid as i was not sure how to take it .but its great film if a little outdated now.
@marakujer7269
@marakujer7269 11 ай бұрын
If i were among custers soldiers, this high tone yelling would have made me extra agressive
@andygossard4293
@andygossard4293 3 ай бұрын
Wild Bill was shot 1 month after Littke Bighorn, but not in this movie. I guess we have to ignore a lot of inaccuracies here
@elxaime
@elxaime Ай бұрын
Watched this in a theatre when it came out. At 1:24, when the mass of indigenous came over the ridge to kick Custer's ass, everyone cheered.
@BenFaffler
@BenFaffler Ай бұрын
Vote your children to go to war, change your mind about it, then hate your children for going.
@BathSaltShaman
@BathSaltShaman Жыл бұрын
0:52 If I was one of those cavalrymen I’d have an avalanche in my pants at that moment.
@yanni2112
@yanni2112 Жыл бұрын
BVD's into a Fudge Factory!
@chrisleehey8079
@chrisleehey8079 3 ай бұрын
If you didn't take a sh*t BEFORE you went on a long ride, that was your mistake
@urbanrider429
@urbanrider429 Жыл бұрын
We’ve caught them napping,take no prisoners……oh wait
@pamtnman1515
@pamtnman1515 Жыл бұрын
justice is SERVED
@d.owczarzak6888
@d.owczarzak6888 Жыл бұрын
Here's a fact. The battle was fought on land that the Sioux STOLE from the Crows.
@GilbertKisling
@GilbertKisling Жыл бұрын
@@d.owczarzak6888 LOL!!! here is another fact, The Crow took it from another group who took it from a diffract group who stole it from some other group,
@kenharvey8161
@kenharvey8161 6 ай бұрын
Not really. Custer was an employee of the US government, and was doing his job. Much of the military - who lived near the Native American lands - had more sympathy with the indigenous tribes than your typical American voter or politician, who just wanted to Indians to be swept aside.
@pamtnman1515
@pamtnman1515 6 ай бұрын
@@kenharvey8161 this is not at all how i read the history books.
@CascadiaCalvert
@CascadiaCalvert 3 ай бұрын
This came out at the height of social dissatisfaction with Vietnam, then the Cambodia invasion and Kent and Jackson state shootings. Custer railing against D.C. might as well be Westmoreland railing after the Tet Offensive. And Custer trying to shoot Little Big Man really reflects how many conservatives felt about antiwar protesters -- instead of listening to their warnings that Vietnam was a really, really bad idea, a lot of "hardhats" turned on young people back them as if it was their fault we were stuck in a mess of a war for so long. Contrast this with an older movie, like John Wayne's "Alamo" and you'll see how much popular culture changed from the late 50s to the early 70s -- we once told ourselves we were mythological settlers freeing up the land for a better tomorrow and by the early 70s we were asking ourselves hard questions about how we treated everyone from Saigon to South Dakota. We revised our image back to noble white men in the 1980s on a Kiplingesque crusade to save the world from itself, and the Berlin Wall coming down was probably the highest historic moment for the U.S. and the West, in general, since Moon landing and before that, VJ and VE day. But I think now we are too riven to ever reunite -- this movie was as much about the future as the past -- and the indigenous and marginalized are once again coming to occupy the center of the story. Just watch how the world has taken the side of Gaza over Israel.
@waynelucier1678
@waynelucier1678 11 ай бұрын
For those who don't know the scenes presented in this video were filmed on the actual battlefield so what you see are the actual places we're important incident's occured I don't know how they got permission
@l.robert2389
@l.robert2389 3 ай бұрын
That part was private land belonging to the Crow Nation Reservation.
@jerrymyphone5849
@jerrymyphone5849 6 ай бұрын
Nice to see the good guys winning for a change!
@thecentralscrutinizerr
@thecentralscrutinizerr 8 ай бұрын
Can you believe Richard Mulligan starred with Billy Christol on the sitcom "Soap"?
@roberthickerty390
@roberthickerty390 Жыл бұрын
Iguess Custer learned fighting a bunch of warriors was a touch harder than killing women and children.
@JesseFernandez-zj5ki
@JesseFernandez-zj5ki 3 ай бұрын
Robert thickerty 390, that was very accurately said by you, fighting like a coward,killing unarmed women and children was a lot easier for Custer,than fighting Indian warriors.
@uniformblue2331
@uniformblue2331 Ай бұрын
So many soldiers' scalps in one day! 😱😱😱 💙💙💙 😭😭😭
@abramgatalskiy4792
@abramgatalskiy4792 7 ай бұрын
А я, реально, думал, что сейчас увижу новый клип группы LITTLE BIG , остроумно выстёбывающий этот эпизод истории Мирового гегемона. Секунд 15-ть ждал начала клипа :-))
@decimated550
@decimated550 Жыл бұрын
Custer looks like the guy in the shroud of Turin
@samaelcoral7297
@samaelcoral7297 9 ай бұрын
Same person
@danielporras9516
@danielporras9516 4 ай бұрын
That's good movie.👍🤙😎
@smar5812
@smar5812 21 күн бұрын
A great movie!!!
@sueperglue8847
@sueperglue8847 2 ай бұрын
3:21 The 'dead horse' moved!
@williejacobs9512
@williejacobs9512 4 ай бұрын
They try to make Custer out to be some kind of hero but all the time he was a blood thirsty monster who tried with the army to take those people land once they discovered gold yellow iron as the natives Americans called it I love watching this because of the way the natives fought As the great warrior Sitting Bull said any day is a good day to die
@marcellino1956
@marcellino1956 4 ай бұрын
Those river crossings were as close to real as you can get
@davidkinsey8657
@davidkinsey8657 11 ай бұрын
This was the first film depiction of the Battle of Little Big Horn that I saw as a child which showed the chaos of the battle. It was certainly better than Errol Flynn's "They Died With Their Boots On."
@DavidBroadley-tw7ks
@DavidBroadley-tw7ks 11 ай бұрын
There was one called custer off the west Robert Shaw played custer his real life wife Mary ure played custers wife
@moviesgalore9947
@moviesgalore9947 Жыл бұрын
Custer survived then went on to play Burt on the 1970's comedy Soap
@fcruz43215
@fcruz43215 Жыл бұрын
This is a great effing movie!!!
@johannesnicolaas
@johannesnicolaas Жыл бұрын
A good day in America history....
@jonathanbaron-crangle5093
@jonathanbaron-crangle5093 Жыл бұрын
Made his men leave their sabres behind, AND 2 gattling guns. But hey, the man was accidentally promoted from Lieutenant to General in the Civil war & WEIRDLY kept the rank of Colonel..
@MJ-we9vu
@MJ-we9vu Жыл бұрын
And how would you have deployed Gatling guns during a cavalry charge, General Napoleon? BTW, about the only thing this film gets right about the battle is that there were indeed Indians and cavalry present.
@Tom-ys5ik
@Tom-ys5ik Жыл бұрын
Custer was a good leader and brilliant soldier, Custer was responsible for the Confederate surrender at Appomattox after seizing the train station/railway cutting off Lee's retreat. Then there was the battle of Cedar creek in the Shenandoah, pushing the Confederates about 20 miles.
@JOSECANUCCJ
@JOSECANUCCJ Жыл бұрын
Not accidentally promoted. Do yourself a favor and read instead of relying upon the inaccuracies of “They died with their boots on”. He was a Lt. Col., second in command of the 7th cavalry.
@JOSECANUCCJ
@JOSECANUCCJ Жыл бұрын
Sabers were useless by 1876, with troopers being issued the Colt army revolver.
@Wildwest89
@Wildwest89 Жыл бұрын
They were wiped out primarily by arrows lobbed onto their positions from defilade, sabres would have made no difference.
@KevinMunday-oh6xq
@KevinMunday-oh6xq 3 ай бұрын
Apart from the fact Custer wasnt dressed in buckskin at little bighorn, and was killed by bullets not arrows, this is a pretty decent depiction. The battle scene in " Son of the morning star" is better tho. Its kinda cool that the Actor playing custer here, would later play Bert in the funny sitcom " Soap" 😊😊
@KaiserStindl
@KaiserStindl 27 күн бұрын
Que película es?
@nicolavivarelli4127
@nicolavivarelli4127 Жыл бұрын
Masterpiece movie
@AnalogComputing
@AnalogComputing 2 ай бұрын
1:29 at this moment he knew that he ..... up
@dennisst.pierre210
@dennisst.pierre210 7 ай бұрын
Excellent movie , even better book.
@juananibalrodriguescatrile9862
@juananibalrodriguescatrile9862 Ай бұрын
BEEEEEN QUERIDOS PUEBLOS ORIGINARIOS
@eldandonsmith5372
@eldandonsmith5372 4 ай бұрын
Looks like a great victory.
@nimitz1739
@nimitz1739 5 ай бұрын
It sad. Back in these days Hollywood used to abuse the hell out of horses for movies like this. And you can tell a lot of them got abuse here. If a horse breaks its leg there’s no helping it it’s an automatic death sentence.
@Synthetic-Rabbit
@Synthetic-Rabbit 5 ай бұрын
Custer actually shaved his head to a "buzz cut" not too long before the battle. Maybe he had some sort of premonition in regards to his future.
@badfoody
@badfoody 5 ай бұрын
that 1970s blood always gets me hahaha
@stephenburke5967
@stephenburke5967 Жыл бұрын
As Hoffman said in an interview some years later" it's a pathetic movie one off which I will always regret taking part in".
@elchoya8432
@elchoya8432 3 ай бұрын
one thing they got right,there were no sabres at the little big horn
@SIGNOR-G
@SIGNOR-G 3 ай бұрын
Uh? Why not? Sabres were already part of all european armies at those times. Did americans not needed?
@juplup9104
@juplup9104 7 ай бұрын
Human beings are rare. White man are always plentiful. We have won today but we won’t win tomorrow ~ Grandfather 1876
@larry811
@larry811 Ай бұрын
Great film and a lot of fun. Custer was perhaps the bravest man that ever wore an American uniform. He was skilled with the tools of war and an absolute stranger to fear. He did far better than most of his peers when commanding in small unit combat. So, while on a literal level this is an idiotic depiction of Custer on the deeper level it attains a good deal of accuracy
@paolocimatti3204
@paolocimatti3204 7 ай бұрын
Altro bellissimo western...dastin offman bravo come tutto il cast....ottimo
@andrewherold389
@andrewherold389 3 ай бұрын
The Custer battle could have been filmed in a more authentic way with mention of Reno and Benteen and the battle tactics such as they existed. If I had lived at this time I'd be panning for gold in California and not looking for trouble with Indians !
@ricksmith6298
@ricksmith6298 7 ай бұрын
I love this....and my Debbie..
@richardcutt727
@richardcutt727 Жыл бұрын
Indian accounts talk of the dust clouds from the horses and black powder firearms which covered everything in a sort of fine grey ash. The soldiers uniforms were covered in it. Visibility almost zero.
@PowhiroMus
@PowhiroMus Жыл бұрын
That bore no resemblance to reality! The Indians fought much smarter, weren't on horseback at the final stage but in creeping through long grass with superior firepower, better strategic position and subdued any fighting defence before closing in for the coup de grace, with tomahawk and knife. The Sioux were masters at war, not simple savages throwing spears or charging mindlessly. They were out to kill, to defend their village of old, women and children. They were angry. They knew how to surround a foe, cut them off from escape, and take them down while minimising casualties. They had better rifles than the US Cavalry, faster firing. Hollywood has a lot to answer for in demeaning Indians and portraying nonsense. Custer was shot, multiple times, not arrowed, and some say, wounded, he shot himself in the forehead with his "last bullet".
@d.owczarzak6888
@d.owczarzak6888 Жыл бұрын
The wound in Custer's temple was dry. No blood. Inflicted after he was dead.
@jacktattis
@jacktattis Жыл бұрын
Well said. The Sioux were very good in fact all the tribes were good strategists and fighters
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