LIVE: Another YouTuber Sabotaged Us | Micro-ATX Build

[@GamersNexus]

FYI, we turn it on at the very end, after the first black-out cut. Can someone timestamp the tech journalism question? That was a fun one!

[@fillezzo]

2:44:29 Turning ON Computer

[@Redacted605]

2:02:10

[@popcorny007]

Hi guys! Next stream, could you possibly show some quick CPU/GPU temps? I'm sure a lot of people would appreciate seeing how these odd cases perform (ignoring standard test methodology of course).

[@BReal-10EC]

@@ArdgalAlkeides Why not just use Nvidia RTX Voice? I thought that was a built in Nvidia card thing now and it worked well.

[@BReal-10EC]

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[@jamesbilger]

Just here to comment that we can see and hear you OK on the VOD Steve.

[@Zaaf2003]

Something about this comment is wrong and I cannot pin as to what it might be.

[@LatitudeSky]

Back to you, Steve!

[@joeykeilholz925]

Great work

[@d3x7r0]

Thanks Steve. I just wanted to reinforce that we can see and hear you OK.

[@rstidman]

Indeed, I hear Patrick's sexual cries clearly. Steve's lovemaking skills, in the homoerotic realm, turn all of us on.

[@goopah]

Alienware is watching this, going, "This could be our next case design, if the temps are high enough. I wonder if we could replace that little screen in front with more glass."

[@theParticleGod]

Dell researching double-glazing, rodent-safe insulation for gaming PC cases, analysts say.

[@christopherwestphal7149]

the TLDR of this stream: We love the concept of this case, despise the execution. Clearly this is the PC that powers the hyperloop.

[@JeffSlehofer92690]

Yes Steve, we can hear you fine. *turns* Thanks Steve.

[@ATADSP]

Colden Gomment

[@MrEholman]

Bought the Tower 500 the day it became available. Loving it so far. Would love to see you all do a review, and hear your opinion.

[@kamikaze00007]

This case is sold here in my country in Asia too. There's a couple of brands but the shape and features are the same. I'm pretty sure there's a bigger version for ATX boards too, but I think they haven't changed the 2-slot GPU thing so it's very disappointing. You'd think a wind-tunnel like shape would make this case very cool on a temperature standpoint as long as the fans are good, but it's more bling than actual functionality structure-wise IMO which is very disappointing. They could've just done a good mesh on the front and had 4x120mm fan mounts there for ventilation power.

[@sethb1689]

I had one case with a 200mm fan on top, i think it was a coolermaster case. Was my first full pc build, i turned it on the first time after building it and the blades hit the fan housing and several of the blades exploded into a bunch of pieces instantly before my finger even left the power button. That was like 12 or so years ago, since then i have steered clear of 200mm fans and coolermaster entirely.

[@Yodamanjaro]

HELLO STEVE I CAN HEAR YOU

[@lordseph]

Damn, that case costs that much in the US? Here in Asia, that's being sold for under $60, three colors, black, pink and white

[@shaneeslick]

G'day Steve, Patrick & Andrew, Sad I missed the stream again😞, maybe my repeated missing of the Streams this year can go on the 'Disappointment Tour Shirt' 😁 I saw Brian's original build video, so cool you finally got around to having a look at this PC Case, I hope Brian & his family are well as he hasn't posted a video on either of his channels for a couple of months

[@johnconnorstopskynet]

This case reminds me of my first car subwoofer. It was one of those bass tube things from the late 90s early 00s also had the road gear cold cathode 6x9 rings lol

[@justhereforgear3441]

This channel has quickly become a favorite. I went from having a vague interest in diy PC building to deeply immersed in the online community in just a few short months.

[@nathanwest2304]

if yur AC is that loud I'd recommend to have it checked over either the compressor is on it's way out or the vibration dampening is rotten an other possibility is that it was installed incorrectly outright but an AC shouldn't be that loud

[@tedpikul1]

You’re coming in clear, Steve.

[@slartibartfast2649]

Micro ATX should never die. It is essential for budget PCs.

[@CurrentRapCurrents]

52:00 definitely interested in seeing more info on downdraft coolers!! i currently have the Noctua NH-C14S in my NR200. i will be changing the case to a Hyte Revolt 3 and would like to consider an downdraft air-cooled option.

[@JesusSerranoFireandIce]

Hardware Canucks did a video on just that a little bit ago. Worth a watch 🤙

[@CurrentRapCurrents]

@@JesusSerranoFireandIce Well... I completed my Hyte Revolt 3 build; itwas the EASIEST ITX build I have have ever done!! I've build in the Lian Li TU-150 twice and the Cooler Master NR200 once, but neither come close in terms of ease of installation and cable management. I used my own Silverstone SX700 LPT PSU and I needed ZERO extensions. The "top down" Noctua NH-C14S fit with no probs at all. Instead of mounting a 140mm fan on top of the cooler, I mounted two (2) 140mm fans on the hinged door. The bottom fan is located above the cooler. On the underside of the cooler I placed a pressure optimized 120mm fan. All of these fans are exhausting air; so it really a "bottom up" setup. 😁 Anyways, I'm supremely pleased!

[@chuckwhitley7403]

I did a build in this case last summer for my grandnephew! I got the case as a Newegg Shell Shocker for $108.99 with a $10 gift card. It turned out much better than yours. I did push pull water cooling with two 240 AIO coolers stacked in the middle with top exhaust. I used a 2080 Ti Kingpin Hydro with an Intel 10850 CPU/Corsair AIO and both the thermals and sound levels were great! I stress tested it using F@H with both CPU and GPU max loads. A LOT OF HEAT POURED OUT THE TOP but component temps were very reasonable. I also added some fan ring lights to the top and magnetic LED strips to each side and it was glorious! I have pics so it really happened…

[@enthusiasticpaunch]

Beeps Costumes reminds me of the Shienhardt Wig Company from 30 Rock which was part of the conglomerate that owned The National Broadcast Corporation prior to XFinity.

[@tbone2646]

I never did understand why micro-atx never got more love - compact size with no compromises on performance seems like a great sweet spot. IMO standard ATX is more than the average gamer or home user even needs these days, we put a gpu and maybe some kind of wifi card and that's about it.

[@shadowpaw2873]

I built my sons pc in the same case. It's not too bad but I was only putting in a Ryzen 7 with stock cooler and a 1660ti so it had plenty of room. I did add a small fan in front of the gpu to blow more air towards the gpu fan since it only has the little slot on the side.

[@bobthompson4319]

the part infront of the fan needs a SAW and a filter. Id cut it open maybe leave a support rail and make it use a HVAC filter that i could replace.

[@joeblow5214]

I had to work during stream. Glad to have a VOD to chill out with.

[@rickstorm4198]

First comp was a Commodore 64. Then a hand built 486 with a cyrix processor ... Then a pentium Acer.... 😔.... I miss the old B.B.S. days.... Many here be like whhaaaattt?BBS basically Early Internet. Bulletin Board System. So much fun....

[@davidsmusicbox5866]

(Editing this in before posting, hoping this is clear but I feel with a moment of filtering through, you can very easily see what I was meaning) So a bit more of a question on the VERY high-end technical level. With Linus opening up his Labs stuff, and you getting the sound chamber and fan tester going... Has there been any talk about somewhat collaborating? Or looking at trying to put something together under a no-so-uniform umbrella? I get not wanting so it doesn't feel like there is any colaborative angst against certain companies... But also feel it could be a way to potentially make a one-stop place to get good feelings on products with varying feelings that are truly independant but can give a solid back and forth from multiple outlets. Obviously not limited to you and LTT. If it would be done I feel everyone involved would want to have 5-10 (obviously exact numbers being pulled out of the aether) just to have potentially competing ideals (outside of want to bring good numbers and facts, not simply feelings) to make things be much more challenged in different thoughts. I get not wanting to centralize things, but also feel you all could see how wanting to centralize it could be useful.

[@djpelisek]

Definitely curious about downdraft cooler performance! I understand using one when it’s your only option in an SFF case, but would love to know if they’re viable in other use cases

[@michaeljones6256]

Coolermaster Hyper T4 would be ideal for this build as I believe the AMD mounting bracket would place it front to back

[@emsicz]

Yeah I have some mATX boxes where I have downdraft coolers, all are NAS boxes. Some are Fractals Node 804 cases.

[@Gildermesh]

They could be in trouble from Hans von Ohain and Frank Whittle (that looks alot like one of his) Estates

[@intetx]

Thanks Steve, we can hear you!

[@buttisholy8571]

Yes I can hear you okay.

[@sreif78]

My family's 1st computer in 1987 or 1988 would they PC limited 386, by Dell. When somehow the motherboard and processor went, at that time Dell sent a technician to our home to replace the motherboard and the processor. As a 10 year old I got to watch him do it that was cool.

[@kryostazis4415]

you can mount top dual fans on crossbar

[@JustWhyFFS]

At first I was thinking "wtf is Beeps Costumes?" lol

[@donh8833]

You have to admit that mATX case is unique. You have to give them points for that.

[@Tango246]

lian li o11 mini I love by far best case I ever bought I love it. Liquid cooled with a Kraken because I'm a sucker for the gif screen. My money whatever awesome build. I-9 10900k Rtx 3070 on an Asus master z490. Viewd on a Gigabyte ultra wide 34. 1440p done right...I pulled 3070 from an abs build, what 2 years ago when u couldn't buy a card...Abs gladiator only thing left is the carcass...I sold the I7 and used the money to buy the I9. Need to do something with the board...

[@TrillandChill]

I was watching this and couldn't tell if I'm just super high or if both of you are super high making this video. Shit it might be both though. 😂😂

[@m4dizzle]

How about a tear-off day calendar for '23 with 365 interesting facts about GN?

[@jjvillalobos1244]

Just letting you know that the audio is fantastic and I can hear you just fine (im using Headphones btw)

[@bartekowca666]

Hey guys, I can see and hear you, so we can assume YT's VoDing system works.

[@g0neh0me52]

1st pc sort of was a spectrum sinclair zx81.

[@robertpearson8546]

You could reduce the heat by 127.5 W by changing a 1988-vintage 80% efficient power supply with a cheaper, 21st-century 95+% efficient power supply.

[@jonirenicus9407]

"Watt" is not a measurement of "heat".

[@PsiQ]

Wow, really splitting hairs here. Until AMD and Intel start talking about BTU, which doesnt help anyone and is also stupid, i happily accept talking about "wattage" for wasted energy as heating in Watts. Just like my fresh water boiler is rated at 27kW, and my kettle at 1700W "heating power". (And yes, the 80% or 95% are still load dependant) .. What was that golden rule? If what you are saying does (add) nothing, just keep it to yourself. I guess the bad mood isnt really coming from seeing a random post on the web, and time spent on that might have instead been used more positive. Have a nice weekend ! :-) (Edit: i also wouldnt put a platinum psu in a gigglebuild which will not get used)

[@realabpc1883]

Not to diss the fellow pointing out that the case is made of "acrylonitrile butadiene styrene", but virtually ALL semi-hard plastics used for cases, remote controls, etc. are ABS.

[@ON-EightySix]

Steve you need to start using clear 👀's 😂

[@mareau2193]

Yes, I can hear you ok Steve!

[@Wooskii1]

I've always pre-mounted air coolers, but I'm really curious- What about an AIO? Do I mount the pump first then install the board and radiator? Or should I install the mobo, socket/ connect everything else, then what? Mount radiator or pump first?

[@jaspertucker1456]

I have this case lol, it looks kinda cool but its a pain in the ass. putting the plastic shell on the top adds +10-12 C to both the GPU core and RAM temps lmao

[@donh8833]

Adapter likely is a 12 switchover to 5 to slow down fan.

[@DEMENTO01]

1:19:00 tbh having two usb 2.0 headers for two usb 2.0 ports is weird too, like a normal header can carry up to 2 usb 2.0 ports no problem so i dont get it especially if ur limited on space? also more material??

[@KellicTiger]

Whatever you do, do not check that on a plane......or the last time you will see it is as the bomb squad is detonating it. I swear this thing looks like every movie nuke I've ever seen. STEVE! CUT THE BLUE WIRE!!!!!

[@spyterpig]

cool, its a puddle jumper from stargate.

[@roberthorniacek4559]

honestly I thought it was a grill

[@jesperdalsgaard5164]

My first computer was a Commodore PC 1 - currently on Amd 5950x with a 6900xt What a jump :D

[@markgriffin1384]

Looks like someone strapped a big ass fan to the top of a office trash can and said we can sell this to morons for money....

[@waffle911]

mATX recommendation: Cooler Master NR400 is one of the only decent ones left

[@silkyz68]

Been using a mATX in the mini O11 for 6 months.

[@Forginswagger]

Shout out to the man who has a overpriced pc for youtube and gt5. As long as you love it, there is nothing wrong with underlizing and overpowered pc.

[@Mellenius]

I will admit that if I was doing a build in that case, I would have had the cooler oriented 180 degrees from what they did so the fans overhung on the VRM heatsink. But that is a matter of choice I guess.

[@missperception3768]

I'm sorry but it looks like someone saw a pail Vacuum and thought it would make a great PC case. I just see early 2000's floor vac every time I see it.

[@justsomeguywashwd_jbm821]

Did anyone else get a major déja vu vibe when they saw this case? I could have sworn GN already did a build in this case, but apparently I was wrong? I scrolled back about a year through their vids & couldn't see it in any thumbnails. 🤷‍♂️ Edit: I don't mean this exact specific case, I mean the same model, more or less - definitely a black horizontal cylinder at any rate. Edit: BTW, purely out of curiosity, is that the 6800XT or the 6900XT? I have the 6900XT, but having looked at Sapphire's site I couldn't spot the difference between the 2.

[@Laundry_Hamper]

19:40 le grille? what the hell is that?!

[@8-bitten]

I am triggered you didn't put a 120mm fan on the back.

[@ApocalypseSoldiers]

yeah steve i can hear and see you okay..

[@MasterDk78]

Did that computer go up for sale or give away?

[@thumbwarriordx]

lol if Intel gave more PCIe lanes I wouldn't be using a Micro-ATX ever. But they kinda left no point in the extra size with only 20/24 lanes total. 2 8x cards, 2 4x cards and an NVME and the system is spent anyway.

[@davidgoodnow269]

I love the Entire nacelle look, it should be white but black is O.K.

[@Bstrong5001]

you gotta Dremel the acrylic to fit a bigger gpu... After staring at this dumb thing for a while .. the best thing you can make out of it IMO is Doom Guy's BFG9000 To me this case also looks like some guy had an interesting idea for a case, and I bet the original prototypes wherever they are are bigger, and more aerodynamic. It looks like a good idea/ dream got cheapened and cut apart to what you have there

[@CitizenRyan]

I can hear you okay

[@voidisciple2759]

yes I can see and hear you okay

[@gsahookah599]

I love this channel, but what is up with the horrible 1980's hair styles? :)

[@williammadisondavis]

why is the video quality so bad? Hella compressed

[@speedfreakpsycho]

Hey dudes my grandma asked which conditioner do you use for your hair?

[@guigui045]

You guys get dipping sauce with your pizza for the crust??

[@Tango246]

Because it's streaming the quality locked to 1080p? I guess my Eyes don't enjoy anything less than 2k...lol

[@BReal-10EC]

When are you going to add proper Gamers Nexus wigs to your store?

[@floodo1]

Gonna have to do a voltron type case now lol

[@racerx3669]

it’s a garage heater

[@PyromancerRift]

I can't hear, please fix the audio

[@samuelmahoney6878]

This is the second time I’ve felt old. First time was checking cards at a gate. Military facility. How tf is a major that young?!!! But yeah. Commodore 64 is the first machine I remember, and the standard DOS games and WIN 3.1 games are what I treasure.

[@philliumo]

Hey, that's the cooler I have!

[@JioLLLL]

FYI we see you and hear you fine 👍

[@pankothompson5903]

so strange they didnt style it to look like a jet engine, feels like it could have been somewhat cool with just a bit of design effort

[@bookworm8415]

Was thinking the same thing. Do an intake fan styled after a jet intake with the fins and everything

[@theParticleGod]

I don't understand why you wouldn't make a box box shaped. That is the practical shape for a PC case to be. Boxes have been around for a long time and the dynamics of boxes are so well understood that any discussion about not understanding them is ludicrous. What the hell is wrong with boxes? I find boxes with minimal, roughly symmetrical adornments to be aesthetically pleasing and elegant, they're easy to make and and rack and stack, and easy to maintain and clean and more durable than weird shapes with weird plastic vents everywhere, which tend to catch on things and become filthy.

[@yingfortheking]

@@theParticleGod wrong

[@eternalrogue832]

You could have used a Gigabyte PSU and turned it into a turbine engine case, complete with a functional afterburner

[@caffeinesippingman]

Steve, I called the Nintendo hotline. I was stuck on Ultima Exodus I knew the next step was to go to an area, but the game would not continue. I had hand-drawn maps for this game on graph paper but I could not figure out what was wrong. The person on the phone knew my answer right away he said I found a bug where if I did not go directly from one area to the other area it would not work, the workaround was to return to the expected area and then to the objective. Their answer worked. If I remember correctly it cost under 10 bucks for the entire call. About the case, it would look sick if it had a curved clear glass exterior.

[@ZandarKoad]

I called the Nintendo hotline on Final Fantasy 3 (American version). At the very end of the opera song, there was a part where you were supposed to pick up some flowers and toss them over the edge. I spent days, DAYS, trying to figure out what they were talking about. The sprite used for the flowers didn't look at all like flowers to me and/or I didn't know I could interact with them in a certain way. I called in multiple times. Gave up. Came back weeks later and asked someone else to follow the instructions give to me. They figured it out.

[@Collector123k]

Good Stream , i was there the whole time and got a mousepad . I've been watching this channel since 2015/2016 , around that time

[@Collector123k]

Btw it was GN Logo Blue&Black Mousepad , i like the desing , i own now 7 items from the store already so im basicly Big "Fan"😅

[@Lord_Negatron]

"This might be worth something someday. As raw materials. As it's melted down." LOL!!! 🤣🤣🤣 Perfect case post apocalypse, confirmed.

[@TheVikingWoodsmith]

What bloody Melon decided it was a good idea to make a case based on airflow with one giant fan in the front and then block 75% of that fan with a solid cover?

[@toymachine2328]

Before the mesh trend started 2 or 3 years ago, that pretty much describes most of the flagship cases on the market, several RGB fans right behind a big pane of glass.

[@DmanDingo]

M-atx should never die.. itx drives me crazy with how much upgradeability and features you sacrifice for small form factor but with m-atx you usually just lose a few pci-e and m.2 ports so the board is shorter

[@sphyrnazygaena5248]

Am I the only one disappointing they didn't turn on the PC and did a couple of quick benchmarks to see if/how bad it would throttle?

[@Beelzybud]

No, last stream had the same problem.

[@dustinmock46]

Watch the end again. But yes temp tests would have made sense

[@JonathanEvans73]

@Limerence not sure if /s but the only airflow in that case isn't in the mobo area. The single 200mm fan is seemingly completely blocked off by glass, except in front of the HDD mount.

[@GamersNexus]

We did turn it on. It's at the end of the stream. It is not "quick" to do an accurate benchmark as we'd need to build an OS for this test platform. This was a build, not really meant to be a review.

[@popcorny007]

​@@GamersNexus We don't care about accuracy in a livestream, it's just for fun. "Oh, look how bad this is!" "We removed a panel, it made some difference!" Just put a disclaimer on the screen saying it is not a representative test, and enjoy yourself lol

[@Flamingauss]

I bought this case a few months back. Both times it came broken because the box barely had any protection. Well I'm glad I didn't invest in it further and just returned it.

[@selim63389]

Wow how bad can a fake be lol?

[@LilPeener]

A downdraft cooler showdown would be very cool, I’d love to see what’s the best choice

[@justintime1237]

Hardware Canucks have recently done a few good videos on downdraft coolers, obviously not the same style video as GN but it has a lot of good information

[@otmaro6513]

I can hear you OK :)

[@OwlishGeorge]

I KNOW it's dumb... but I want to build these into a Alex drawer setup as a two-PC build to make it seem like engine nacelles. It's a horrible idea, but it might actually look cool.

[@bookworm8415]

Im getting pod racing vibes...

[@HungarianPenguin]

please feed patrick sometimes. he's doing good work, deservers it!

[@Shishou_Shi]

I always wanted to build a jet engine case, this one brought me to some interesting ideas

[@warrenwelch6295]

We can hear you loud and clear Steve’s. Young Steve is a GREAT addition to the team - Older Steve MUST protect him.

[@rstidman]

Steve should take some time off and focus on his hobby of endoctonrating male youths into a new sexual mindset. Patrick is an amazing homosexual lover to the youths. Thanks to Steve's extremely-learned guidance; maybe he should be in charge of this channel's main mission of indoctrinating gay youth into slavery.

[@MrGrimsmith]

Ah, yes. The question about gashing yourself on the I/O cut-out brings back memories! The customary blood sacrifice and (profane) oaths to the deities of tech! It was compulsory in the early 90s that you put a little of yourself in to every build. Literally.

[@silencer51]

Am I the only one who really likes this form factor? If the front was fully meshified and there was room in the back for like 2x90mm exhaust fans side by side, above the motherboard I/O, and the acrylic cover was perforated on the GPU side, I think this could work really well thermally AND look cool.

[@asineth832]

Yeah we can see you

[@TheInverseGentleman]

Steve, I'm from the future but I just wanted to reassure you that I can indeed hear you. Not because this is useful information or because I think that you're currently live, but instead because I think it's possible that doing so so quickly after the video finishes and comments are open will get me fake internet points or one of those creator hearts with extremely low effort. I don't know what, if anything, I can do with a GN heart but it has to be important otherwise why would I want it so much?