LIVE HEARING: Idaho Student Murders - ID v. Bryan Kohberger (Part 1)

[@Maryjane-f3p]

As much time shuffling papers as asking questions.

[@daCubanaqt]

The paper shuffling was killing me!

[@brianchorley4581]

The real world is not a law and order episode. There's like 13 things they are going over.

[@hpytwobme]

This is one of the worst lawyers I've seen. They sound ridiculous.

[@xoxsilentrealmxox]

Would you say that Ashley Jennings did well for the State yesterday?

[@hpytwobme]

@xoxsilentrealmxox Absolutely yes. Kohbeeger's attorneys are so bad that part of me wonders if they're setting up for an appeal based on ineffective assistance of counsel. The judge sounded like a law professor more so than a judge, "Isn't that probable cause every day and twice on Sunday." Seriously, they're that inept

[@Seashellsbytheseashore21]

@@hpytwobme ashley jennings imho was terrible. too much "at the end of the day" and "i just cant wrap my head around" and "even if the state did" and so on. she literally said "uhhh yeah!" she just doesn't seem like she's really all there.

[@Romina1907.]

Too bad the prosecution asked the magistrate not to consider the DNA when determining probable cause because they knew it wasn’t holding up. That means Hippler can’t magically revive it now, no matter how hard they try. He has to work with exactly what the magistrate had in front of her when she signed the arrest warrant. He can’t retroactively shove the DNA back into the probable cause equation just because the case is falling apart. The state made their choice, they knew the DNA was too weak to rely on, and they didn’t want it scrutinized at that stage. Now, they’re stuck with that decision, and no amount of legal gymnastics is going to change it. And as for the “inept” defense? They just presented a proffer strong enough to put the PCA under serious scrutiny, to the point where a Franks hearing is now highly likely. That doesn’t happen unless there is actual evidence that law enforcement misled the magistrate. If that’s “inept,” the prosecution should really start panicking. Because no amount of courtroom posturing is going to save them from the facts.

[@alyciaItalia]

His lawyers are in way over their head 😳

[@allintheblush]

Are you even watching?

[@Followthemoney-nl1xx]

I predict a plea deal negotiation soon BUT state wants the death penalty so no deal.

[@Rosemary-x3g]

I guess anyone who can pass the bar can be an attorney. Even if it takes 15 times.

[@Mudbeaver1]

His lawyers screwed him bad

[@naomivantonder1161]

Did you pass the bar? If not then you dont have any idea even what it is

[@brendawheeler5377]

I'm starting to like this Judge🎉! The more I see he is a no nonsense Judge! He looks like he's exhausted with the defense being so unprepared.

[@Dawn388]

Actually, the state gave them a mess to sort through. The defense is an amazing team. The state has been the most lazy uncooperative team. They are disgusting.

[@MB-yz2vc]

I can’t even reason what her line of questioning is for! What is she challenging with the Apple records?! Like just say what you are questioning the validity of. Instead she’s just talking about bs that leads to nowhere and nothing. Is she insinuating improper warrants? Lady, get to the point ffs

[@djhimm513]

@MB-yz2vc There are proper procedures and protocols when filing warrants. Specifically, they need an affidavit attached to the detailed warrant. The prosecution admitted that they didn't attach the affidavit to the warrant. Since they failed to attach the affidavit that constitutes an invalid warrant.

[@Dawn388]

@@djhimm513 Anne Taylor said and I completely agree that a subsequent search needed a subsequent warrant and affidavit attached.

[@MomtoAutism]

I can hardly listen to the Kohberger defense attorney who sounds like a complainer

[@michgrl29]

Are you serious??? You apparently never watched the hearing.

[@Seashellsbytheseashore21]

complaining about the fbi not waiting until the secured warrants? i mean....................

[@elmoK1LL3Dyou]

I dont think I could have been worse than this defense attorney even if I tried. It's so embarrassing.

[@user-fb4sb1zi8g]

This could’ve been half as long if they were more prepared and not shuffling papers for 20 seconds between every question.

[@johnchaulk]

The paper shuffling is for effect. They are doing it to appear to have so much documented evidence in their favor that it’s hard to find what they are looking for. They know exactly what they are doing. It’s a desperate attempt to hide the fact that they have no way of exonerating their client.

[@rhondamcnally7792]

I’m sick of hearing papers turn

[@glennsr.1082]

This sounds like a lot of hot air and a waist if time to me what the defence is saying.

[@MomtoAutism]

Absolutely agreed! I do like this judge who is knowledgeable and very DIRECT

[@goodkitties]

I don't think the defense has a viable argument, but they have to do absolutely everything possible for their client. Sometimes it seems like a waste of time, though, for such a shot in the dark.

[@missyearnest]

I couldn’t watch lawyer anymore, was falling asleep and so confused, what a waste of a court day.

[@Dimensionaut_]

waste of time*

[@Mudbeaver1]

Defense is so unorganized, desperate to get something to stick

[@AnnieMay-g4r]

Did see that state of Jennings yesterday 🤣😂🤣😂 shame job she made the state look like fools .🤣😂🤣😂 was she drunk 🤣😂🤣

[@xoxsilentrealmxox]

​@@AnnieMay-g4r She was high or something. Funny how the pro-guilters don't notice or care

[@MB-yz2vc]

Their only hope is stopping evidence on the basis of technicality so obviously they have no faith in his actual innocence

[@jesperpedersen3430]

The guy spent a year coming up with the story/alibi that he went stargazing. That alone should tell you all you need to know.

[@iamarianna8972]

So guilty for driving alone at night? Think proof beyond reasonable doubt is required. What proof besides teeny tiny DNA? Your DNA ends up at places you never went to. How did he get car so clean? What about 3 other male DNA found but still not identified? The list goes on.

[@user-os6ch5pt7w]

@@iamarianna8972 "So guilty for driving alone at night?" No, but it sure does look suspicious that your car is seen on CCTV going back and forth at the time of the murders, along with turning your cellphone off at the time of the murders. "What proof besides teeny tiny DNA?" His car caught on CCTV driving around the neighborhood at the time of the murder, his cellphone pinging off towers around the location of the murder, his cellphone conveniently being turned off at the time of the murder, and a knife sheath found under the body of a murder victim with his DNA on it that just happens to match the same Ka-bar knife he bought of Amazon is a crap load more that "teeny tiny DNA" now, isn't it, you disingenuous, NPC? "Your DNA ends up at places you never went to." No, which is why it's suspicious a knife sheath has his DNA on it found under the victim, and that knife sheath just so happens to be the same kind he bought off of Amazon. Makes you think, huh? What am I kidding, you do no thinking; you let a man-child that paints his face and dresses like a clown think for you! "How did he get car so clean?" By not getting into it with bloody clothes on, obviously. Are you assuming he doesn't know how to bring a change of clothes and change before getting into his car? What a thinker you are.... "What about 3 other male DNA found but still not identified?" Who knows, and who cares? Maybe they were persons that went to the multitude of parties they provably had? Maybe they were his accomplices? How does that hand-wave away all the evidence that puts him at the crime scene at the time of the murders? "The list goes on." Yeah, the excuses and low IQ cope from a clown watching ignoramus will continue, even after he's convicted.

[@KayInMaine]

Only his DNA is on the snap of that night sheath. ​@@iamarianna8972

[@Dimensionaut_]

FBI lied about the DNA evidence and the video evidence. they refused to show their work and kept everything a secret because this was a hit done by the aryan knights as retaliation for the girls parents snitching to the feds about their drug operation. multiple parents had drug arrests shortly before the murders

[@Vvvvvvvvvv459]

@@iamarianna8972that’s just one of this issues he’ll have. The totality of evidence will paint a nice story and the puzzle pieces will fit together. Dude is done. He’s so guilty.

[@KdubsG]

Personally, I appreciate that these detectives relied upon experts to serve Google and Apple warrants from people who specialized in it. Kind of shows a professionalism in their protocol. Seems very thorough for LE.

[@iamarianna8972]

Yeah professional is really not a word you should use when talking about these particular enforcement agencies

[@djhimm513]

You do realize he admitted several times that no affidavt was attached to the warrants. They are proper procedures and protocols when filing a warrant specifically for a warrant to be considered valid. An affidavt must be attached. They failed to attach the affidavt, which makes the warrant invalid.

[@katherinewagner987]

Come on let's get this trial going on all this ridiculous s*** that she's bringing up.

[@iamarianna8972]

Why were they using trash men to dig around for evidence? If they thought he committed such terrible crimes would you not get him off the streets and in for questioning where you could take a swab DNA? Getting a court order if necessary. Seems rather unprofessional and desperate to find someone they could accuse.

[@Unduplicatable]

@@iamarianna8972 You should actually try studying the case for yourself. Kohberger is 100% innocent, they can’t even slightly prove guilt. He should be walking free by now, but this prosecutor is a LIAR.

[@user-os6ch5pt7w]

@@iamarianna8972 "Why were they using trash men to dig around for evidence?" Because they didn't have enough evidence to get a warrant for him, and once you throw your trash away, you forfeit all ownership of it and it requires no warrant to search. What they did was completely legal, and used by intel agencies, and police all the time. "If they thought he committed such terrible crimes would you not get him off the streets and in for questioning where you could take a swab DNA?" Because they didn't have enough concrete evidence for an arrest warrant, yet, obviously. That doesn't mean what they did was illegal, nor unconstitutional, though - which is what you're trying to imply.

[@Rosemary-x3g]

This judge has had it already. Judge " I hope to bring it all together in the end." Lady hope is not a plan.

[@brendawheeler5377]

😂😂😂😂

[@88meemaw88]

Whoever did this crime must have known Murphy. A dog doesn’t stay in a bedroom without coming out for just any random stranger. This puts a whole new spin on this crime. Unless, Murphy was in a cage. To address the people that were supposed to be coming down the stairs and then running back up. That could have been one of the victims trying to escape the perpetrator/perpertrators. This trial is going to be a wing-ding! I appreciate your coverage and look forward to hearing your opinion.

[@KFay-d5d]

AT said the door was open and the dog was found sitting in the room. Didn't say dog was in a cage or crate. I find it difficult to believe a puppy would stay in one room for so many hours but could have happened

[@JanetSmith900]

The commercial interruptions in these videos is ridiculous.

[@earthmagic1]

Almost as irritating as that female attorney shuffling those papers. Is she a public defender who got this trial only hours ago 🤔

[@nameisprivate5429]

The fact that this case is still not settled is ridiculous.

[@Dimensionaut_]

not familiar with court cases? they commonly take years

[@nzkiwiange]

This is so painful to watch

[@guerrita6878]

Wow, the judge’s expressions are priceless

[@poker2663]

Kangaroo court. Looks like BK will be getting life in prison. Wasting time talking nonsense when someone is guilty.

[@MRealCrimeStory]

This story always gives me chills. I can’t believe how this crime happened. I made a video about it but there is a lot of details

[@MRealCrimeStory]

@@nicholasnich7083 Yep, I do! :)

[@MRealCrimeStory]

​@ Warm welcome :) Leave me a comment if you see anything that need improvements!

[@missyJoe25]

Is this the second day hearing ?

[@jisu222]

Yes

[@thejimmer94]

@@missyJoe25 first day

[@Crosstracy]

How does the lead detective know so little.

[@michgrl29]

He's INCOMPETENT

[@iamarianna8972]

Because he is part of the corrupt and amateur local law enforcement.

[@KimberlyEnglish-ps2tl]

Or shady!​@@michgrl29

[@Account_CB]

With this 'defence' team....no way he is getting off even if he is innocent .. The disorganisation & stumbling over her presentation is infuriating...

[@guerrita6878]

I kind of jumped in to listen to this, and I’m actually shocked this is the defense. She sounds very casual. And doesn’t really seem to know what exhibits are in, shuffle shuffle papers, waste some time.

[@D-Z321]

2hrs of ASMR paper turning. No talking! 🤭

[@AlexaLake7]

This was a boring waste of my time. There were a lot of "I don't remember" answers from Payne.

[@Annie0527-pw]

The Defense Will their desperate Hail Mary moves…

[@drizzzyj648]

How long is break

[@crimetraveler]

Still on that 10 minute break? Or is this a diff break? I had to step away

[@justasmolbug]

Everyone in the comments bashing the defense is not paying attention, and quite frankly has no idea what they are talking about.

[@missyearnest]

You’re right because I don’t even think she knew what she was talking about. Judge had to even keep stopping her to see where she was going with all of it

[@justasmolbug]

Ya it's hard to comprehend why the state would lie to this extent

[@Romina1907.]

It’s shocking to see how little people seem to care or understand what’s at stake here. I’m not from the US, and I’m so glad I’ll never have to be in a situation where people like this decide my fate. I’ve watched countless trials and know there can be differing opinions, even in the most straightforward cases, but what’s happening here is just a disgrace to everyone involved. The victims and their families deserve to see the actual perpetrator(s) convicted. The defendant deserves a fair trial, and that means being able to face his accusers and the evidence against him. This whole circus undermines the justice system entirely. To everyone cheering this on, maybe it’s time to return to school or start using the internet productively to learn about your justice system. Even the basics would suffice.

[@justasmolbug]

@ thank you for saying this. I don't know if he's guilty or not, but my stance is exactly what you stated. If he's found guilty with real evidence presented at trial I won't argue against that, but that's not what we are seeing right now. Guilty or not he deserves a fair trial... because we all deserve a fair trial...

[@ElizabethPrendergast-gr7wt]

I do you don’t ..

[@johnchaulk]

Keep this in mind…. Anne Taylor, is being paid $200 an hour, $8,000 a week to lead this code confused mess of a defense team.

[@tarnel72]

What is hoped to be achieved in this hearing? I don’t understand the point of this.

[@SJGPerspective]

Admissibility of DNA evidence and warrants credibility.

[@RealityBites-2tM-MtA]

Go Alise, sorry for routing for the devils defense, but Alise Mashoth saved my life against an AG who fabricated charges against me. She will provide competent defense so this killer can't appeal, no doubt!

[@Lez_awake]

@@RealityBites-2tM-MtA so, you were railroaded by the AG but surely that didn’t happen here….??

[@AllegedlyAngela]

If she saved your life you’d think you’d know how to spell her name correctly.

[@suburbantrapqueen]

Routing or rooting? Lol

[@Rosemary-x3g]

@RealityBites-2t English is not your first language, is it?

[@alinafakin370]

@@Rosemary-x3g likely is native; native errors

[@christinedionne7846]

This is soooooooo boring😬

[@xoxsilentrealmxox]

You don't have to watch

[@julesbee6249]

Prob why hearings aren’t often available on KZbin.

[@lise9768]

It’s court

[@nzkiwiange]

45:53 the judge..."FML"

[@confusedncali]

Was supposed to be 10 minute break lol

[@MB-yz2vc]

Interesting how Bryan Kohberger has been afforded the assumption of innocence and allowed to delay and continue to torture 4 families while Luigi Mangione is already presumed guilty

[@lilcaro420]

Maybe because they got luigi on clear video and taxi pictures 😂

[@virgilgardner3061]

She’s apart of the Idaho system don’t forget

[@tarnel72]

This dark haired defense attorney is soooo unprepared and unorganized! It’s sad. If you don’t specifically point it out, I’m not going to go looking through all of the documentation you are submitting. In other words, you better get your ducks in a row. She is wasting the courts time……and taxpayers dollars!!!

[@cecebarnes7715]

Gee whiz. Get your papers organized ahead of time.

[@michgrl29]

The prosecution is fumbling, horribly.

[@ItiNitI]

Yep an now the defense may be able to get the DNA thrown out completely on a technicality...BK will walk of that happens. The state never should have dragged their feet an tried denying BK the discovery evidence on the DNA genealogy.

[@ElizabethPrendergast-gr7wt]

@@ItiNitInever you are making things up

[@KarenWoods-f3z]

He should have just plead guilty and spared the poor families from this charade

[@KayeGlasco]

Yesterday I saw an add to drink hot water and loose weight. So many new techniques. Exercise still does well for me..

[@virgilgardner3061]

Ain’t no way the door was open the cops had to open the doors because the dog would be all over

[@carolec5742]

Payne has amnesia

[@Lez_awake]

He should be scared

[@AllegedlyAngela]

Bryan looks like he realizes his ship is sinking and probably wishes he never changed venues. This judge ain’t letting these women get away with all their gaslighting and tossing out world salad.

[@iamarianna8972]

His lies and the corruption within local enforcement shall be exposed. He will end up behind bars.

[@xoxsilentrealmxox]

He looks nervous

[@HappyHK369]

Payne: I'm here to help 😮

[@robertellison4691]

Have you watched the latest videos concerning the Idaho 4 and the Frat Boys on the Huda London mental health and true crime channel? She has posted about 8 videos in the last few days that break it all down. It all makes perfect sense to me.

[@Crimeenthusiast]

Omg did the judge just help prosecution?

[@xoxsilentrealmxox]

I've seen the Judge help prosecution a few times

[@lyrca1309]

Its unbelieveable how this Lawyers get paid so much for solong, for being anoying. And how his darkhaired Lawyer is smilibg all the time and BK is looking at someone rdy to k someone is chilling

[@bluebell320]

and yet you say that and laugh like this is some kind of shallow entertainment.

[@lyrca1309]

@@bluebell320 ja genau wieder sone Verdreher Ratte, du siehst eine Maus und schreist direkt als hättest du den Teufel gesehen. Unglaublich

[@lyrca1309]

@@bluebell320 typischer BK Verteidiger.

[@carolec5742]

Idaho police have a select amnesia problem

[@rhondamcnally7792]

It was 2years Ago

[@brianchorley4581]

It was also probably the most high profile case of their careers but they don't remember anything.

[@AngieVillasenor0813]

So sad how Bryan looks 😢very thin I don’t think he is doing alright… so sad … Something it bothers me is the inconsistency of the authorities in charge at the beginning, the repercussions are awful !!! The way they manage this case is 100 percent awful.. and not truthful.. definitely not justice for the Idaho 4 kids either the defendant .. is a shame !!!

[@Lez_awake]

I agree. This whole thing is one big deception. Bryan looks so small and pale, not only is he not guilty… even if he was, the investigation was a horrible incompetence by LE

[@Lez_awake]

@ I pray for him. I pray for real justice for these 4 victims.

[@suealbondante6781]

Lowered chair oversized suit coat and no tan

[@karenearegood8759]

How would you know if he truly did or did not do it ? You haven’t even seen all of the evidence. You should never be on a jury

[@Lez_awake]

@ well your mind seems to be made up 🤣🤣🤣 Because anyone with any experience in the legal field can see how terribly LE did in this investigation. Payne can’t remember anything?! Suuuure Other unknown dna found in blood on the handrail? Hmmm Dylan changing her story how many times? If you think you’re hurting my feelings, you’re not

[@Foxxxtrottt64]

I think he had an affair with the surviving friend & was used as a pawn...... allegedly.... Friends can be your very worst enemy.

[@AnnieMay-g4r]

I've said this before did have affair with police officer wife ???

[@kimberlydavis8889]

Man! The prosecutor is so unprepared! And the “I don’t recall” 🙄

[@mattbrannon6826]

That was the defense, not the prosecution. If it's ever unclear just look for the lawyers nearest the defendant.