[LIVE] Talking Point: How fair is parental leave?

[@beautyofslowliving]

I hope I never have to cross paths in the workforce with someone like khai

[@madamcuriouss]

yeah just gives me the ungrateful to coworkers vibe when they cover for him

[@Maplel3av3s]

​@@madamcurioussI will make sure not cover him

[@Van-bx2xl]

Kai just can’t seem to answer the question straight. CNA needs to choose better guests. Bring in more guests like Revathi, speaks logically and clear minded.

[@ysngngys7753]

U must be single....

[@LXZJ]

Abang that's why

[@Van-bx2xl]

@@ysngngys7753No leh.. 😂

[@Maplel3av3s]

​@@LXZJTruth. Yalams lol 💀

[@AK8901]

Khai has zero empathy for his colleagues who have to cover him at work while feeling overloaded and stressed out.

[@prolikereal2]

And yet when suggested that the covering officers should be reimbursed!compensated. He Jitao say no way

[@jessz3104]

Why is Kai invited? He is such a shallow person lol

[@jbrkjferkjbekjb]

I like his sharing leh

[@QuintessentialFlyer734]

Singapore has a long way to go to seeing people as human beings first. We are clearly not ready to let go of economic growth to make way for a kinder, more compassionate society. Covering for a colleague for a couple of months maybe once, at most twice EVER, is not going to destroy your life. One day, when you need to take leave for whatever reason, wouldn't you be grateful if someone can help cover? Parenting is hard work, and such an emotional and transformative life experience, we can afford to be kinder to one another. That said, this is where longer parental leave can actually help companies. I have seen (in other countries) job ads for 6-12 months maternity cover. This could be useful for people looking to transition to a new industry or take on temp work here and there.

[@tastylambstew]

This deserves all the upvotes

[@mamemo359]

Agree so much w you!

[@beomkomap]

I agree with you. My colleague took 2 months leave for surgery or something like that. I feel good to cover for her to sort her problem out. In life we never know what may happen to us. Dont be selfish or karma might come and haunt us.

[@rosalindchek3107]

When singles cover for their colleagues on maternity leave or paternity leave or childcare leave or shared parental leave, do they still time to date and find a mate? So it’s just a dead end for single people lah! Is it fair to say it’s unfair?

[@rosalindchek3107]

Singles in Singapore - the most overlooked group in my opinion.

[@pinklabbit]

@@rosalindchek3107 Absolutely. Restrictions from HDB, taking on disproportionately more because of this new policy, taking on the bulk of parental care etc.

[@GoodGame-r5o]

why is Khai constantly interrupting people as they speak, especially his wife? Family care leave will be fairer to singles, especially when they are not compensated for covering their colleagues' parental leave. I think there are deeper society issues regarding low fertility rates, especially housing and costs of living. Having leaves simply rewards what happens after birth, but the pre-conditions to favour the birth need to be in place first.

[@private6708]

Yes they should make it friendlier for singles to form families. Be it work life balance (i.e. leave), access to flats etc this will make a bigger impact on the larger scheme of things rather than just parental stuffs which tilts things one-sided.

[@ft4686]

This Khai Asyraf is really a wayang kia! Kept interrupting his wife. And he only wants the benefits for himself without being grateful for it. The way he looks at Diana is also very rude. Disappointed with the quality and diversity of guests you have on the show today!

[@Maplel3av3s]

DEI garbage. He is the token Yalam

[@Maplel3av3s]

Why should we put ourselves in Kai's shoes when he doesn't care about those who have to clear his sh*t?

[@auntjess]

The child care leave is only for kids below 7yo. Once your kids hit 7yo (youngest child), regardless of number of children you have, you only have 2 days. But the school continues to have HBL, school holidays for children's day, teacher's day etc.... if you have multiple children in different school and levels, their HBL days are different, then the parents take personal vacation days too. Agree that companies can consider voluntary extend same leave as "Family Care Leave" so that all can benefit because agree too that singles or childless married individuals may also be caregivers too. To be clear too, Maternity leave is not "holiday". It is more like "recovery" leave akin to hospitalization leave, coz child birth is surgery (for C-section), and even natural birth takes time to heal. So it's not like the mum stays at home to netflix and chill too. There is "work" to heal the body, and adjust to new "home-based work" of caring for new human. 4 months is hardly enough to heal for some as the C-sec wounds are still half healed and mobility is difficult. Contrary, What i have seen is dads use paternity leave to play golf... (to be fair, not all do that....) but it's a no-win situation if everyone keep thinking equality = fairness of everything in everything. But I do think employees need to be mindful how they load the covering officers and how they manage business continuity in cases of any leave (not just maternity). As a working parent, there are also times we need to cover singles who go in hospitalization leave or other leave of absences for a few months. It's just a cooperation thing to keep business going...

[@PPGGGGGGGGGGGGG]

Zi Han is considering another baby becos you are not the one carrying the baby. 😂😂😂

[@a.c.i.s.s.e.j3486]

Its not true that singles are always targeted to cover their colleagues. Whether married or single , anyone may cover another colleague's when they are any leave , maternity leave or etc.

[@AtLwB]

I feel like this segment is so rushed, i can feel that diana is trying to make sure she covers everything that they want to cover in such a short period.

[@Mariah_Sanz]

Bloody hell! This Khai guy is such a red flag. I can only give my good wishes to his wife.

[@thewatcher4896]

This Khai everything also he want to his benefit......

[@Anonymous-js6jn]

Really annoying this guy

[@Maplel3av3s]

​@@Anonymous-js6jnIndeed. With his ungrateful attitude, I will definitely not cover him. Let him reply emails and answer calls while on leave

[@matthewhon6594]

I think we have to remember that life is unfair and equality doesn’t exist in every aspect of life. Good management helps and they can recognise and compensate employees that deliver and step up

[@shurinhaha]

There's one guy who talks about other people having no empathy in a rather non-empathetic way haha

[@a_rabbits_sharing]

Base pay might be difficult ..however extra incentive for a few months might make more sense 😊

[@jeffreychan1559]

I think mr khai is asking too much your parent n my parent don't ask for that mu ch n they raise 5 or more kids n still grown up some serve national defence n contribute to the growth of the country.My parents n your parent also work for 8hrs n some more without help n working equipment.today they still work 8hs n some more with computers,forklift etc

[@MuiFahWong]

On a personal level yes....agree. i am 74 yo w 3 adult children. Today they are doing well aside from one of them who is autistic. At no time when bringing up my children did i ever thought that the gov shld make bringing up children easy for me. You r then forced to be creative as u navigate to survive. Of course the current attempt of the gov is to improve pop growth...hopefully it succeeds

[@userwheretogo]

Please host more this kind of live show. Love it.

[@munster1404]

I will be glad to cover for colleagues on parental leave. Because I'm considered a "workman" under SG labor laws and entitled to overtime payment. I desperately need the OT to supplement my meager salary. The people that are complaining are probably junior executive level employees who do not qualify for overtime.

[@MaySim]

Parents only have obligations due to their own active choice to have children. We can respect that personal choice, but then it shouldn't be up to everyone else to have to pay the price (taxpayer's money, having to cover their absentee workload, replacement costs etc.). The costs of child-bearing and -rearing are well-known to everyone, and every adult should be cognizant of those personal costs when they make such personal decisions, and take responsibility for those decisions. For those who are caring for parents, they need leave because things happen, not by their choice, but they have obligations to loved ones. Family care leave is fair because it is up to the professional's discrimination how they want to use to best care for their loved ones, be it the young or the old. Parental leave is unfair because it only benefits those who make a specific choice, and penalizes everyone else, and non-parents get no extra leave at all. A lot of childfree adults take on more elderly-parents care responsibilities to relieve their siblings who have children. This new policy penalises these people over and over again.

[@pamchuang6939]

Opinion is from a personal perspective. Fair comment on the active choice but population growth is critical for a country. Do we provide the infrastructure for population growth or we open our flood gates for more foreigners to come in for white collar jobs when our true born Singaporean population is dwindling? There must be a growth and replacement for every country

[@Gerrynade]

Singapore is a nation built from immigrants. Our forefathers were pretty much foreign workers in the first place

[@MaySim]

@@pamchuang6939 yep I agree that population growth is critical and the state must act. But, they can do this without making this a direct workplace cost to non-parents. For example, the state can make childcare cheaper, subsidise diapers and milk powder, maybe compensate grandparents for nanny service etc. Right now this policy creates a lot of problems for individual non-parents who get stuck with unpaid double/triple workloads (neither govt nor the absentee parent compensates them), SMEs get stuck with neither-here-nor-there absenteeism of 3-6 months. The criticism here is not the decision to have children, nor is the criticism that the state must act. The criticism is that the state should do other things, not sponsor only the parent who goes absent for a personal choice, while penalising everyone else in the workplace to pay the price and get nothing in return.

[@iluvchyiyuandpanyueyun]

Well said.

[@Magurosenbei]

Singles also have their active choice to exclude themselves from the benefits 😀

[@AAA-vu3dq]

Before I retired 3 years ago, I was an employee, single, and at around 60 years ago, both my parents had passed on. I’m at the lowest rung concerning leave benefits. I can only shrug because it’s the national workforce rule🤷🏻‍♀️

[@thestaringenclave]

Hmmm I know it's a live show and it's not easy managing one but it would be good if Diana doesn't cut into others' speech and allow them to say their piece.

[@angelatakano6072]

It fair to have parental leave however the ones who don’t have children end up working more the days that the parents are off during maternity and parental leave and it’s ok, because they are doing their duty to society of having children while the ones who are not parents cannot do that voluntarily or not, so the people who don’t have children should be allowed additional family care leave and also additional days of leave because they will end up working more all the time while the mothers and fathers are having their rightful leave

[@aloisohzh]

I've seen some colleagues abusing such leaves to go on holiday - some even wrote "holiday" as a reason when applying for childcare/parental leave.

[@thewisewant]

1 child is 6 days CCL, 10 children also same...no incentive for parents to sustain the financials led are the biggest road block...there is NO solution if incentive isnt prorate according to the number of children

[@angiemf9033]

If one has no children, of course they shouldn’t be entitled to child care leave. However the Govt can consider leave for anyone with parents who are above retirement age.

[@beomkomap]

When I was single, I never take leave during summer school holidays or December or even CNY if my colleagues who have kids want to take the leave. Compassion and Empathy play a big part here. I know they need the leave more than I do during the special occasions. When my colleague who had a need to go for surgery and away for 2 months, I was more than happy to cover for her. What I can think of is only for her to recover well. Again Compassion and Empathy play a big part here. And then, when it comes to maternity leave, actually Singapore provide quite short leave, only 4 months. Remember during these 4 months, there might be one month where the mom is still pregnant but too exhausted to go to work, so she is left with 3 months only. Other countries provide maternity leave up to 6 months. The singles want to have same benefits as working parents. They also dont want the gov to fill in the low fertility rate with foreigners. Maybe they only want foreigners to take blue collar jobs. Please la, you cant have the cake and eat it. When you talk about boosting fertility rate, we need to look at it more holistically. Shared parental alone wont help. Look at how the gov can support the medical bills through out the pregnancy. How the company can empathise with pregnant women to provide flexi work arrangement etc

[@AAA-vu3dq]

Earlier I said I could only shrug as it is the national workforce guidelines. That said, I must add that there are no such thing as equitable leave benefits. No equitable punishment for all types of crime. No equitable rights for subsidised housing. No equitable entry criteria for education. I’m happy to live in a practical Singapore. Choices & circumstances convey continuum consequences. ❤

[@whis5448]

Even in garmen sector when you take CCL or no pay, the bosses will "mark" you and deny you of promotion. If they really wanna change, change the mindset of garmen bosses first.

[@mamemo359]

So true!

[@joykhooml]

It would not surprise me that employers could be more careful now when they hire. Older workers could now be more valuable besides just their wealth of experience. We all know for a fact that younger workers tend not to stay long, and now with such leave offered, younger workers might not be as attractive to employ.... It could really come to a scenario where more foreign workers would take up jobs alongside older local workers....

[@user-8ng1ize]

no, they will just hire people who don’t and won’t have kids.

[@Callsign-Blade_RunnerSG]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@user-8ng1ize “Only just Hire people who don’t or want kids”.. Thus breaking other laws like DISCRIMINATION.. 🤦🏼 Besides, life is UNPREDICTABLE. Decisions can changed overnight..

[@user-8ng1ize]

@@Callsign-Blade_RunnerSG yeah. I’m not saying it’s ok. but these people were thinking of a very narrow range of jobs, like “finance” which are “harder to replace and take more time”, as they say in this video. That is obviously not going to get all older people hired, or affect all young people across all sectors and levels of pay, skill, qualifications and experience.

[@user-8ng1ize]

The large companies which employ large numbers of people working in dangerous, harmful and taxing conditions will continue to employ poor young people, especially in lower positions, in jobs that make those young people die premature deaths.

[@user-8ng1ize]

There are plenty of employers who plan like this in every country, and they don’t care if it’s legal. Especially if they are big enough, their rules of operation are to “break the law when you need to, and change the laws when you can.”

[@strawberry.milktea]

so much bs from khai

[@WendySee-tk7wx]

No one speaks honestly and all speaks like Khai, stir and stir the toss up and down… ie, like roti prata!

[@JChiang4708]

I really don’t care about the number of leave days as long as those who go on leave get their own work done. They can also work from home if needed. Having said that, since my work is project based, I’d rather work with someone who doesn’t need to go on leave often or during peak periods

[@ben.s.s]

Parental leaves is the little benefit for nation building of replacing the national birth rates. Those who are red eye can always stepped up to try to be a parent, then you will know this little benefits isn’t enough. Or the gov can start to tax heavier for singles above 35 who earn higher than median, since they are not going to help the nation to replace the working population in the future, and stress the health care system. Don’t mix the issue with bad colleagues who abused the system and the bad employers who don’t do a better job in staffing the right number of people to cover for each other.

[@tastylambstew]

Most people aren't single by choice.. you cannot punish them with higher taxes

[@chickeabiddy]

I have colleagues who abuse the leave, taking the full 14 MCs and hospitalisation leave on top of annual and parental care leave.. really irresponsible. Also it is nonsensical for married employees to expect coworkers to cover double the load. You choose to get married and bear children, why must it be other colleagues' burden? Singapore already imports many foreigners who will become PR or citizens, there is no difference whether you choose to have a family or not.

[@mamemo359]

Lol. My colleague who abused the system is single.

[@wildpasta]

tbh so many fathers don't even want to leave work on time because they dread going home to screaming/crying children. what more taking parental leave to BE with their children.

[@ydnaschan]

What, so screaming kids can only be settled by the mothers? U better don’t get married, your mother half is gonna suffers

[@musico3415]

You can't have your cake and eat it. If you want sg to have good human replacement rate, then all Singaporeans who don't want to have kids should support those who want and can do so. Women who want to have kids should be treated like a protected species, since majority of the population don't want kids these days. Perhaps, the sg gov could create new jobs for these fertility productive women, if the private sectors are discriminating against these women. Just like how NS was made mandatory, bearing children is as important to sg although it can't be made mandatory.

[@angiemf9033]

I agree some abuse the leaves . Anw some Singaporeans, will nvr be content. They always wants more. Hence they are unfair to both the Govt & their employers.

[@vernier-colorado]

From what I know about fertility rate, Singapore's fertility rate is 0.9 children per woman, while Japan's fertility rate is more like 1.1-1.2 and China's fertility rate is still 1.2.

[@jbrkjferkjbekjb]

It doesnt make sense for singles to ask for more leave than couples with children on the basis of having to "care for parents", etc., because couples with children have to care for parents also. It thus makes sense to afford more leave when you bear children as it's an additional responsibility that singles don't have. To ensure it's sustainable for singles, employers should just hire more people and move away from minimising costs at the expense of overworked singles - those employers that cant afford to do so should be left to close (after a transition period) as they shouldnt be contributing to unhealthy work culture in Singapore. And yes, current leave like 'Medical Leave' should be restructured into something more flexible without requiring MCs all the time. Also I disagree with the survey conducted asking if extended paternity leave will increase fertility rates. The whole point of it is to complement it with other strategies to create a more family-friendly environment, not to rely on just one measure alone - that was never the government's intention. This is just the first step along with flexible work arrangements, etc. It's a poorly thought through survey. Some of Diana's questions are loaded as well - "What can working mothers do to be fairer to their companies?" - that's a loaded question with an assumption that they are being unfair.

[@Magurosenbei]

There are MNCs that offer 26 weeks to both Father and Mother 😀

[@JetLagRecords]

CNA, Your videos always make me smile, wanna be friends?

[@junbecks]

dafuq

[@steventay5834]

PAP to give one COE to family with two babies lah.

[@junbecks]

ROFL winning comment!

[@BBme]

lets face the facts. Before parental leave is implemented, employers had biased on female capabilities and worsen after the implementation. Employers want to make money so having the female to have more leaves make the biased worsen so its better to have equal total leaves than this new rule of female having 6 months while the male has 3 months. Remember that the smaller the company, the worse of conditions, like grinding the employees till no single drop of sweat. The male also can take care of the baby while the mom is working. There is something that we call frozen breast milk. Male also need to learn how take care of the baby alone and this will give them a good experience and knowledge in life.

[@rosalindchek3107]

Remember married people were single people too…

[@rosalindchek3107]

Or have they forgotten?

[@rosalindchek3107]

And married people can become single again…

[@BBme]

The government budget giving out free money is not very realistic because multi billionaires, millionaires and wealthy retired get them too. These money can be put into good use many ways.

[@jamieatelier]

Single shouldn’t stay in sg there’s nothing for u here

[@FairToComment]

Asking how fair is not the point as Sg is an aging society but how good will it be to achieve its goal is the point. Just like asking how important is spending $$$$billions for defense

[@ysngngys7753]

What's the point of talking about the rest when your country cease to exist?...

[@FairToComment]

@@ysngngys7753 that’s not the case its only yr poor foresight and phobia. Sg existed since independence even without natural resources n is now world class

[@vernier-colorado]

But I think that with these measures implemented by Lawrence Wong, Singapore's fertility rate will increase but not adversely increasing (like Singapore might have a fertility rate of 1.2 rather than 2.1 or 3 children)

[@borismak78]

Too much viewer interaction disrupts flow of discussion

[@BBme]

There is another problem that some families are making way too many babies that they can afford. They just dont care and always seek help for others to share their burden. The government should educate them again, not to be selfish. The full subsidies should be limited to max 2 babies, partial subsidies to the 3rd baby and no more subsidy beyond that.

[@LawrenceWank]

Singaporeans need to understand that child bearing is not important. The argument about needing foreigners to supplement local workforce is flawed too. It is just another PAP rhetoric. AI and robotics are the solutions to all our problem of low birth rate.

[@lteo7156]

The only discrimination in Singapore , you think you pay a lot . But not .

[@cybergod77]

To address the 'baby' issue, let's get to the root of the problem. Until we do that, all these incentives will not lead to the desired outcome.

[@rabbitrabbit9412]

My company also give less annual increments and bonus for this group..

[@noprob7820]

If childcare, paternal, maternal and shared parental care leave are paid to the company by the ministry and YET, the companies do not employ anyone to fill in their job responsibilities, but instead get existing staff to fulfull the tasks left behind by those who benefit, is it fair? If this is the case, shouldn't the payment of made by the gov be given to the staff who are taking over those who are on leave?

[@candychia8275]

As of now , one person is doing 3 person job so to cover someone meaning that poor guy is doing a 6 person job. So not that they don't want to help, they will sink too in burntout.

[@BBme]

The HR woman is political, dare not reveal much when she knows a lot. The older Chinese man and the Malay girl are the confirmed truth talker while trying not to offend anyone.

[@viner]

singaporeans are just not emphatic enough for change. govt is now trying to change what they have created from policies decades ago. unless there is a huge cultural shift, any amount of leave given will not help the birth rate.

[@francisTKY]

24:41 6th month.. that would encourage more baby. Mean more female will make baby as much as they wants.. So maybe, every year make baby just in exchange for full paid but work for 6 month a year . Why not lol Maybe to be fair for employer. Pay only half of monthly salary and gov subsidise another half for the woman. I think it's a win win condition for both party, since gov implement this and should do some responsibility too,

[@bluffmasterhara]

These extra leaves taken by couples should have "some comfort, some consequence", maternal should be 70% and paternal should be 50% of paid leave. The difference should assist the company to hire temporary or allocate the sums to those who are covering for them. Oh btw, since everyone is having a dig I have to give my 2 cents on Khai 😂 - he needs to change his name to the short form of Richard.

[@rabbitrabbit9412]

My company only want to hire old people, single, no kids .. as long as man or woman with kids will be out.

[@malcolmsim4081]

Ia this new policy applicable to 3rd baby onward or regardless of no. of babies?

[@DARKSILVER-v6m]

Nonsensical rationale from Nonsensical Speakers

[@Maplel3av3s]

Especially that token Yalam, Kai

[@rabbitrabbit9412]

Too many leave taken. Hard to get jobs. Career path also affected.

[@steventay5834]

I think is fair lah. The leave is paid by PAP. How many employees will have paternity leave? Employer can hire part time staff, if needed. Alamak. Not as if every female employee will get pregnant

[@musico3415]

My relative went for an interview in a civil service sector for a management position early this year. After going through 2 rounds of interviews it seemed that her chances were good. However, a final question asked was "do you intend to have a second child?" Her answer was "yes". So she didn't get hired. This is clearly a discrimination against her for wanting to have a second child. Gov should take the lead in encouraging more women to have children instead of discriminate against them.

[@anziar3038]

S'poreans of all ages are very well taken care of by the PAP govt which is ranked the most effective in the world. Opposition parties have a lot to learn from PAP.❤❤

[@CyChong-vm2uf]

can we have steven pls?

[@fotamucker7308]

Wow, that old man, IT roles doesn't really matter that much. Hahahaha

[@sweetenglow1263]

Ok, stopped watching because of the guy that only saw the situation based on his perspectives...

[@isabelgoh5371]

Just give everyone more leave.

[@sleepy_dobe]

Nonsensical for singles to expect the same level of leave entitlement as parents. That just shows the self-entitled mindset of the younger generation. You want the same parental leave? Get married and start having kids. Look at the bigger picture. The national economy needs manpower to continue to be relevant and provide growth and resources for the nation to continue being a live-able home for the population. No replacement local manpower = more foreign workers needed. Don't just look at the micro-economics that relate only to you and your situation. In the whole grand picture, if you don't have a healthy national economy, do you think your own personal economic situation will be good?

[@chickeabiddy]

It is nonsensical for married employees to expect coworkers to cover double the load. You choose to get married and bear children, why must it be other colleagues' burden? Singapore already imports many foreigners who will become PR or citizens, there is no difference whether you choose to have a family or not.

[@sleepy_dobe]

@@chickeabiddy Well, maybe you want to take it up with your bosses since your married colleagues didn't ask for you to cover them when they go on parental leave. Afterall, it's your boss who decides on the work distribution. Some companies hire part-timers for those few months, some hire new staff on short-term contracts, and even others smaller companies with good bosses, the boss might even take up the slack themselves. Perhaps you might want to look for those kind of companies to work for if you're so bitter about covering your colleague's duties. I also hope you're not the type who would take leave to go on holidays since your colleague will then have to cover your duties while you're enjoying yourself in another country. Not good to give them reasons to be upset with you, right?

[@Maplel3av3s]

​@@chickeabiddyExactly. Why must we clear their sh*t when they choose to get screwed

[@beomkomap]

⁠@@chickeabiddyi dont think you will cover double the load because the load will be distributed to a few people. Foreigners becoming PR and citizens can never have the love and loyalty for the country as opposed to True blue Singaporean born and bred in Singapore.

[@Duperman2494]

Singles prepare for more OT and more sai kang to take over

[@steventay5834]

No difference lah. No more babies. Is more about job security. No jobs, no babies lah.

[@steventay5834]

Fair lah. No need to be so calculative

[@billytan7871]

Now, they say senior is the treasure with more experienced, haiz devil game last time they said senior do what also slow pork. Double edge sword 2 devils believe nobody only yourself.

[@5er3ne]

Actually when the new parental leave was announced, i was happy for a moment then i just felt that its not something beneficial actually. So what we have that extra few months, what happens after we use finish the parental leaves? Life goes on, we still have to figure out a way to make sure our child is taken care of. AND with this new parental leave, it will just make our colleagues hate us more when we go on these parental leaves. LOLOL . I never hope my colleagues to show empathy or understand my situation, because if i am in their shoes i will be pissed too. As a working mum, it never easy to take care of a child. I think the government should look into supporting families in terms of child care in the form of external help. Anything they can look into or look out for? 1. TRUST in Singapore CC system - Looking into the current childcare system and ask yourself, why is there so many child abuse in childcare surfacing. 2. CC cap doesn't make me feel comfortable as a mother - Child cap in cc nowadays are always maxed out, i have instances where i go to cc most of them are cap to the max some even exceeded the cap and hire a assistant teacher to justify the overshot cap. Then you can go to private ones lor maybe lower cap, but cost more lor. LOL 3. Childcare hunting brings difficulty as well with everywhere full making us worry if our kid can get into any cc. 4. Hiring a helper at home, the finances that is required to have extra help. Not much support is given from the government got la subsidy on levy. But maybe we can have something like the CDA account for hiring helpers to take care of kids below 3? With couples getting married late and have kids at a later age, we cant have our parents to help take care of our babies, they are just too old to do it. In short ,i hope the government would look more in-dept in the happening issues rather than posting a temporary fix to the situation. I am planning for a 2nd child and now i am worried my colleagues will hate me more. LOL

[@jtbroker]

Fathers go play golf la when they are on paternity leave....

[@jeffreychan1559]

M/s iffa y are one of than which i think y asking too much sorry if possible y also want free salary for 01yrs n remuneration of bonus

[@michelletan9949]

Good topic but i really don’t like the abrupt interruption that the host (diana) did. I know its live and u need to rush through your topics, but it’s just rude to cut off at wrong timing or when guest are speaking halfway. Did very frequently to many guest.

[@hojx]

It just seems poorly planned by the production team, essentially pilling too many live polls for Diana to run through

[@dennistan4663]

Why discuss this asking each other. All these extra maternity and parent leave be paid by the government. Everything settled. 🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗😅

[@shuchanwong5054]

The shared parental leave policy was not well thought out. It divides the workforce, rather than unites them. Singapore was founded by immigrants and the rational method to solve the low fertility rate is to localize foreign immigrants who wants to make Singapore their home.

[@Callsign-Blade_RunnerSG]

You cannot rely on foreigners forever..

[@Pandas3a]

I think child care leave shld stretch to Sec as you will still need to take care of the child even though they are older

[@sleepy_dobe]

As I watch this video and hear the views and opinions of the guests present, especially the negative ones from the single lady and the older employer on Diana's left, I sincerely hope that they are the minority. Because they tell me one thing: Singaporeans have become soft, narrow-minded and short-sighted. I hope that the reality on the ground is not like that and that there are more bosses like the one from HSBC. The intangible benefits far outweigh the cons. The company has the right mentality in looking at it as an opportunity for their workers rather than a burden or problem for the company and its workers. As he said, advance planning is one of the keys. Pregnancies don't suddenly give birth tomorrow, or next week, or even next month. Bosses have at least about 6 months to plan for the absence of their workers as most mothers tend to wait until past the 3rd month of pregnancy to inform family, friends and employer.

[@spartantoys8226]

Trying to compare the policies of huge MNCs with a large headcount to other companies is naive on your part. He was also beating around the bush when answering Diana's questions about resources. What will really happen on the ground is probably just the boss splitting the workload among the rest of the staff or to one unlucky individual like the single lady in the interview and they just have to suck it up.