LIVE | The Consecration of the Chapel of St. Thomas Aquinas

[@ryanscottlogan8459]

Beautiful chapel.Through the intercession of Our Lady of Fatima may tradition be restored to the entire church!❤️🙏🏻

[@debbie2027]

Amen !

[@oledocfarmer]

Amen!

[@victorfabianveravillalobos3539]

¡Sí. Toda la tradición eclesiástica sea restituida en todo su esplendor!

[@LUIS-ox1bv]

Amen, a hundred, million times!

[@johnraymond-pz9bo]

Tradition is already in the Catholic Church. You must mean in the Vatican II Church

[@steveguest2003]

Absolutely beautiful. Makes me proud to be a Traditional Roman Catholic.

[@kristywarshauer5258]

Thankful....better than proud ...

[@ruthmahmoudian2885]

I heard they are definitly not catholics,they are sedevacantists,someone in Instagram told ,they dont accept the pope....... dont know if its true anyway

[@martinusmahendra7492]

My Lord, it's a beautiful chapel. May our Lord Jesus Christ always reign here and give His blessings and protection.

[@galvanitorres]

God Bless the Vocations in this beautiful place. God Bless Bishop Sanborn and Bishop Selway. (From Brazil)

[@MadMax31577]

Also Bishop Fleiss

[@galvanitorres]

What city he works? And the complete name, if you know.

[@MadMax31577]

@@galvanitorres German Fleiss. He works with Bps Sandborn and Selway in Florida.

[@galvanitorres]

@@MadMax31577 The USA have 5 Bishops? Thats awesome...

[@MadMax31577]

@@galvanitorres Are you also counting Bishop Pivarunas?

[@louisecampbell7940]

This is the third Catholic Church/ Chapel I've seen having been completed over the past month. Is this the Revival we're waiting for - that satan can't prevail against? The True Church, The Holy Remnant remaining Truthful and obedient to Christ's Holy and Apostolic Church? Goodness I hope so!

[@sadie4538]

Amazing thought and probably true! I never had thought this. I used to think if "the gates of hell cannot not prevail against it" why is all this corruption and sacrilege occurring everywhere? However, I think you may be correct! I saw the consecration of the Immaculata in St. Marys, KS (beautiful!) but which is the third church you mention? God bless.

[@louisecampbell7940]

@@sadie4538 Your support is refreshing. Usually I get a mouthful the other way.😀. It just struck me this way anyhow so I'm glad it made sense for someone else as well. Let's pray that more of this Revival of the TLM comes about. God's got His Plan to take back what is His, so let's hope this is the start! God Bless you too! Great you got to see the Consecration of St Mary's. I'm in Australia where most TLM parishes are under the Archdiocese which means it's not done in the Truth that it's meant to be because unfortunately our Bishops here are mostly berGOGlians.

[@Christel-2]

Ich verstehe nichts davon aber wunderbar die Atmosphäre Gott segne Euch Alle 🙏🕊

[@juanzevallos4003]

THIS IS NOT A CATHOLIC CHURCH BECAREFUL !!

[@louisecampbell7940]

@@juanzevallos4003 care to elaborate please?

[@robert3302]

It delights me to see the Church going back to its religious heritage in the design of new churches and chapels.

[@kateheiden8418]

An absolutely beautiful chapel, inspiring ceremony and celestial, divine singing!

[@johnraymond-pz9bo]

Thank you so much for staying Catholic. I have not seen a Catholic Sister since first grade, 1967. I didn't see Catholic priests/ Bishops until 2015. So this is very comforting. Catholic people are out hear and grateful to you alk.

[@magugarcia10]

Estos actos dentro de la Iglesia Católica es que me dan esperanza, seguiré orando por recuperar la sacralidad perdida en muchas parroquias, tanto por parte de feligreses como de sacerdotes 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 Dios bendiga la comunidad de las Hermanas de St. Thomas Aquinas, se ven hermosas con sus hábitos! Que a ustedes, nuestro Señor las mantenga con esa entrega y devoción, porque ahora las monjas modernistas perdieron hasta sus hábitos 🥺😥

[@juanzevallos4003]

LAMENTABLEMENTE ESTOS NO SON CATOLICOS TENGAN CUIDADO PORFAVOR.

[@jorgegarcia-tt7jq]

@@juanzevallos4003si fuesen católicos no lo harían asi de la manera tradicional sino con el rito moderno que triste ver que la iglesia católica va por ese camino desde el concilio Vaticano 2 que nunca fue respetado el concilio no fue el culpable sino que nunca se puso en práctica como lo dijo Benedicto y con el papa Francisco en cuestión a liturgia las cosas empeoraron ay que orar. Por nuestro papa Francisco

[@jorgegarcia-tt7jq]

@@juanzevallos4003no están en plena comunión pero todos su miembros tienen sucesión apostólica por qué fueron ordenados por obispos católicos romanos oficialmente no son católicos pero ay sucesión Pero es verdad no son católicos romanos

[@magugarcia10]

Muchas gracias @@juanzevallos4003, me di cuenta días después, para decir la verdad, se me rompió el corazón, mirando gran número de nuestros sacerdotes vestidos como laicos (sólo usan su vestimenta sacerdotal para celebrar la misa) y nuestras monjas en jeans o shorts, pareciera que cada día nos separamos más de la práctica real de nuestra bella religión, la Única, la Universal, la Verdadera!! Y les estamos dando la chanza a otros a vivir como vivíamos los católicos, qué nos está pasando??? Voy de tristeza en tristeza, pero nuevamente, gracias por la advertencia, tendré más cuidado , lo qué pasa es que a mi edad, siento que ya no me queda mucho tiempo para prestarme a los “experimentos” que están haciendo en el catolicismo 😓🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@juanzevallos4003]

@@magugarcia10 Fuerza Maria ! Esto está escrito que falsas iglesias se levantarán para confundir y lamentablemente salen de nuestra Iglesia Santa Católica y Apostólica sigamos con fe ! A rezar el Rosario diario para que personas que quieren seguir a Cristo no sean confundidas con estas sectas, y estas no son experimentos Católicos si no son sectas del enemigo que tratan de confundir, viva Cristi Rey y su única Iglesia Catolica !

[@gabrielmaldonado1903]

This is beautifull God bless you brothers and Sisters

[@CristoRey124]

Dónde es este convento ?

[@georgetteharvey9668]

Beautiful chapel, may God bless the Chapel and everyone who joying the ceremony. ☦️💙❤️💚

[@Inquisitor_Cletus]

Just found out about this. I must take my family here to see the sisters and the beautiful chapel.

[@lisalancaster4927]

In Jesus' Most Holy Name & Precious Blood & by the Power of the Holy Spirit may All who 🎖 Honor God in & through this place receive Divine Favor🌺🌺🌺

[@carmenanico2786]

Beautiful spiritual peaceful temple may God be glorify threw his church

[@richardrodgers7311]

No pachamama's allowed in this holy place! Praise God!

[@barryegan2692]

What on earth arre you takingvabout

[@etet4736]

Sisters, that was amazing! The peace must be heavenly!

[@LiLo-L_86]

beautiful, congratulations... I see you from Mexico, I love your singing videos

[@HamsteresCricetidae]

8 hours... Beautiful chapel

[@prevatican2catholicshow]

God Bless the Chapel of St. Thomas Aquinas!

[@你好-n3b]

Proficiat from Indonesia.. ❤🇮🇩

[@jeffm.3575]

Thank you for building such a beautiful bulwark against the Modernist church.

[@pepejimenez9295]

I wish there were Chapels this beautifull in Asia

[@ghislainevalmont9463]

Amen praise Jesus Christ hallelujah

[@debbie2027]

Thank you for this and the booklet. May God continue to richly bless you all

[@stephenkolarac5305]

Celestial Beauty!

[@gloriapatri1934]

I wish to go visit someday!!

[@cristinavarela7123]

Very Beautiful and so God may be praise …

[@SilesianBrethren]

Beautiful Chapel!

[@SarumChoirmaster]

This convent is located in Brooksville, Florida.? Do you have a school associated with you? As a retired cathedral choirmaster and organist, expert in men and boys choirs and scholi, I send you my deepest congratulations on a very nice job singing! My only wish was that your chapel had Gothic choir stalls flanking just before the high altar area in a true monastic style for you sisters to sing from. Hopefully, when your numbers grow, this might be a possibility. Your chapel reminds me of the Carmelite men's monastery in Wyoming and the men's monastery in Virginia.

[@QueenofAllSaintsAcademy]

The chapel has several details unfinished. Choir stalls would be wonderful. We have a school next door to the convent. www.qasonline.org

[@yeseluna]

Simplemente perfecto

[@jacoboVE_Cultura]

Como merece la consagración de la capilla.

[@juanzevallos4003]

LAMENTABLEMENTE NO SON CATOLICOS TENGAN CUIDADO PORFAVOR.

[@jacoboVE_Cultura]

@@juanzevallos4003 Son católicos tradicionalistas en perfecta comunión con Roma, no mientas ni confundas que es un grave pecado.

[@juanzevallos4003]

@@jacoboVE_Cultura No miento investiga más porfavor ellos no siguen al Papa, no se rigen bajo el concilio vaticano ll

[@jacoboVE_Cultura]

@@juanzevallos4003 Pero están autorizados por Roma con un estatuto propio como algunas órdenes monásticas o conventuales.

[@pawezygmuntcichosz5411]

Piękny liturgiczny śpiew 😊

[@ryan742]

благодарю вас!

[@teomira-dessislavapetkova9616]

Pace e Bene. Amen. 🙏🏻🌹🕊

[@SarumChoirmaster]

The Ordinary (Kyrie, Gloria, Sanctus, Benedictus and Agnus Dei) are from the Mass in Four Parts by the English composer William Byrd, who surprisingly along with Thomas Tallis, were Roman Catholics under Elizabeth I. Dear sisters, are you a part of the SSPV?

[@ChaseCetta]

These sisters are not affiliated with the SSPV/CSPV. That would be the Daughters of Mary, Mother of Our Saviour in Round Top, NY

[@bobbie8059]

This is the beautiful chapel of the Sisters of St. Thomas Aquinas and have a convent and school. For those who criticize the Sisters of St. Thomas Aquinas in singing during Mass because they would say, "In the eyes of the Church, only male singers can become members of a church choir. According to liturgical law and the ancient usage of the Church, boys alone have the official right to sing the soprano and alto parts in church choir. (Motu Priopio V. 13)" This is Motu Priopio of Pope Pius X, in which Bishops and priests ought to follow if pre-Vatican II is to be defended. So, we should encourage to sing for the Church as early as 9 years old. These boys, maybe most of them will become priests. The liturgical choir is an organization of male singers who render the prescribed parts of the Mass and Office allotted to them. Here's from Pope Pius X's Motu Priopio,. "Even when they are laymen (they) are really taking the place of the ecclesiastical choir." (M.P.V. 12) How about women in the women's choir of the Church? This is about the female member (girls/women). Thi

[@JoyCorcornan]

I will.alwsys be in healing. But Was miraculously cured by Christ and intercession of Fr Rookey in Heaven and Fr Ruben on Earth.Both Exorcist Priests!

[@MONICA-qh9ri]

I come to ask for prayer for my brother Sérgio Eduardo needs help, take care of his health Psychic he doesn't accept it, he doesn't feel it Parents are suffering deliverance health strength 🙏 my mother Maria and my stepfather Sérgio

[@beatricec9238]

Which was better? The dedication of the Immaculata in Kansas or Aquinas in Florida? Both! Because it was well done!

[@readerm8313]

I don’t think they are really comparable. They used different rubrics (SSPX follows the 1960 rubric changes, so shorter.) Besides rubrics, in streaming quality and beauty of architecture, I think we all know who is the winner.

[@comethalley3185]

@@readerm8313 thanks for the info.

[@mattwashere__]

Also SSPX new church has a weird Altar disposition, as if they can celebrate the invalid NO mass there and TLM, just as any common modernist diocese

[@michaelrex6948]

@@mattwashere__ The Immaculata's altar is properly disposed, that is, freestanding such that it can be gone around at the incensations, as is prescribed by the rubrics for the consecration of an altar and implied for incensations at Mass from the Lavabo. Note that the same is true of the altar in this church (and of all cathedrals, par excellence St. Peter's and the rest of the Roman basilicas), only that the predella makes it awkward to follow said rubrics, as becomes evident at several parts of the stream. The only thing the Immaculata's altar is missing (which this church is missing as well) is a canopy over the altar. I have problems with both, but to imply the Immaculata's altar is the way it is so it can be used for the NO is pathetically ignorant of the church's history and laws.

[@mattwashere__]

@@michaelrex6948 oh I understand now, sorry for the bad comprehension on such matters, thank you!

[@christophmatthiashagen1745]

Was Fr Orasch present, too? Greetings from Austria once again, and may God bless the Sisters of St. Thomas Aquinas and the consecrating bishop, His Rhigt Reverend Excellency Joseph Selway abundantly!

[@joecartier252]

Fr Orasch became a religious (Franciscan I believe)

[@christophmatthiashagen1745]

@@joecartier252 Are there traditional and sedeprivationist Franciscan Frairs in connection with Bishop Sanborn?

[@joecartier252]

@@christophmatthiashagen1745 not that I know or heard of.

[@christophmatthiashagen1745]

@@joecartier252 Thank you, perhaps somone else knows more.

[@G.V.A.A.]

Beautiful church ⛪️ Does anyone know where this church is?

[@ChaseCetta]

It is located in Brooksvile, Florida

[@G.V.A.A.]

@@ChaseCetta Thank you.

[@chrys-o]

God No. I had goosebumps listening to the chants from the sisters. Which sister group are the sisters from?

[@ruthmahmoudian2885]

Thomas from Aquino,but they arent catholics,but sedevacantists

[@chrys-o]

@@ruthmahmoudian2885 Thank you!

[@giseleademers]

They are true Catholics, not NOVUS ORDO....@@ruthmahmoudian2885

[@duaneadams5210]

I've been to consecrations of churches before and I don't recall ever having seen what I assume to be ashes put on the floor in an X form. Can someone explain the significance of this please??

[@joaovictoreuclidesmelo4072]

It is a land in which the Greek and Latin alphabet (or the name of Christ) is written.

[@readerm8313]

You probably saw a dedication of a church which is a short and simple blessing. The consecration of a church is rare.

[@oaim50]

@@readerm8313 I think it is the case that in England they speak of church "dedications" when they really mean "consecration." But the terms are not synonyms in my understanding. I thought all churches need to be consecrated, and not just dedicated, but I may be wrong.

[@giseleademers]

@@readerm8313 Bishop Sanborn even said himself, it was the first time he assisted in a complete consecration of chapel and alter...

[@llimasill]

Maravilhoso!

[@hdmusic2070]

wow, so much external forms.

[@misskhanitthakumrong3901]

Hello 💕

[@clarekuehn4372]

What are they doing at 2:10:00 on the floor?

[@kedukordi]

Catholic for life

[@juanzevallos4003]

THEY ARE NOT CATHOLIC BECAREFUL PLEASE.

[@kedukordi]

@@juanzevallos4003 I am Catholic for life and forever

[@josephlori4625]

I wonder when the SSPX Seminary in Virginia will finally have its new Chapel?

[@giseleademers]

Bishop Selway must have been exhausted after such a long ritual consecration.

[@manuelgoncalves8264]

ST. THOMAS AQUINAS. The Consecration of the Chapel of St. Thomas Aquinas. BOAS TARDES ! PORTO - PORTUGAL . A SUAS EXAS .REV. MAS , É A UNIÃO A CRISTO ! É o Realizar a Missão que DEUS Lhe dá na 🌎 TERRA . E , assim , possamos Oferecer a DEUS as Orações e os Trabalhos , as Alegrias e os Sofrimentos de Cada Dia , em União com CRISTO . O Próprio JESUS nos Incita , CLAMANDO : " VINDE A MIM TODOS " . ----------------------------------- BEM - HAJAM ! Em Nos Ajudar a Alcançar o Triunfo Universal de CRISTO .

[@marcosoliveiralemos992]

Louvado seja Nosso Senhor Jesus Cristo e sua Mãe Maria Santíssima ♥️🇧🇷🌹♥️🌷😇🙏

[@chrifeld]

Will there be kneelers sometime soon?

[@TheHCGTube]

Thank you for sharing this. I had never seen the rite of consecration of a building. It's very interesting. I pretty much understand what's going on since I attend tlm myself but there's one step that really puzzled me. At some point, the servants put some kind of dirt on the floor in the form of a cross. And then then bishop writes the alphabet it seems. What does that mean???

[@Chiavaccio]

🙏🙏🙏

[@firasjawjad436]

40:44. 2:57:58

[@LoveLove-bh8rm]

❤❤❤

[@gregorydsouza1330]

🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@eduardocascel9589]

Porque son sede vacantes ?

[@juanzevallos4003]

No son católicos tengan cuidado porfavor

[@giseleademers]

@@juanzevallos4003 A pope cannot preach heresy publicly. He is promised infallibility in his teachings of faith and morals. Any pap-elect that does not hold the intention of promulgating the true faith, of saving souls from Hell, and to sanctify is not a true pope but an imposter. Christ said: Beware of wolves hidden under sheepskins. It is our responsibility to obey a pope when he is guiding the flock to Christ. Can you honestly believe that Bergoglio is doing this? Anyone who believes that, sorry... as lost his mind of his faith as catholic...He is a heretic, an apostate, an imposter...That is why we believe that the seat of Rome is vacant, and will remain so, until we have a pope that will condemn Vatican II officially.

[@giseleademers]

NO PAPA....FRANCIS NO ES PAPA...ES HERETICO...

[@themodernmonarchist]

4:12:56

[@jean-jacquesdeclercq516]

Who made the stained glass windows ?

[@mathusq9614]

If I were to be visiting Florida, can I come to mass at this Chapel?

[@corneliuslow]

The booklet says Spem In Alium by Tallis was sung during the consecration ceremony. Can someone be so kind to point to me where in this video can I listen to it?

[@readerm8313]

My favorite is Sanctus and Benedict at 8:08:31

[@PatoMuerta]

Where is this chapel?

[@readerm8313]

Brooksville, Florida

[@juanzevallos4003]

They are not Catholic becrefuñ please.

[@sodality3970]

Where is this located ?

[@readerm8313]

Brooksville, FL

[@lyny8368]

Who was the architect?!

[@colleeneldracher5658]

Some of the sisters and Bp. Selway.

[@wacawlubinski5218]

🙏💗💯

[@bobbie8059]

How about women singing in the Church? Thi

[@JacindaChamplin-dk4ey]

Jacinda 💖💖♈️♈️😊😊✝️✝️✝️✝️🌈🌈🌈✝️✝️✝️

[@garofanorosso8929]

Perché il vescovo tiene sempre rivolto il ricciolo del bacolo verso se stesso e non verso i fedeli?

[@deutscheseele]

Perché non è l'Ordinario locale. Il Vescovo Diocesano nella propria Diocesi tiene il baculo col ricciolo in avanti, se un Vescovo si trova in una Diocesi non sua, lo tiene verso di sé.

[@achillemetzger8303]

Ma deuxième question est la suivante, à l époque Msg Marcel Lefevre était le seul à affronter Vatican ll c'est pour ça que 1988 il a sacré 4 évêques pour préserver la messe de St Pie v. Alors ma question est la suivante l évêque qui a consacré cette église es t il un fruit de l église conciliaire...

[@deutscheseele]

Non plus. Certains parmi les prêtres ordonnés par Mgr Lefebvre (ou le RP de Lauriers qui avait suivi Mgr mais était déjà prêtre bien avant le concile vat2) ont quitté la Fraternité en désaccord avec Mgr sur la question de la vacance du Siège. Ils ont trouvé un Archevêque, Mgr Ngô Đình Thục, sacré Évêque en 1938, qui les a sacrés Évêques à son tour..

[@ManuelRennhofer]

Are they sedevacantists?

[@S-z714]

Yes

[@readerm8313]

Sedeprivationist. Though it’s pretty much the same thing as sedevacantist

[@hesselfridyanto]

​@@readerm8313 sedeprivationist? Well, then the pope is still there right?

[@juanzevallos4003]

No they are not catholic becareful please

[@giseleademers]

@@juanzevallos4003 They are true Catholics... Novus Ordo is non Catholic...but the Freemason sect.

[@danielsmallwood4310]

Is not the consecration of churches an act of jurisdiction? And one which is not ordinarily supplied?

[@michaelrex6948]

No -- the consecration of churches does not require jurisdiction for validity.

[@fidefidelis5306]

@@michaelrex6948 Council of Trent, at Sess. 23, canon 7, says that those who aren't sent by the ecclesiastical and canonical Authority of the Church aren't legitimate. It is de fide, without exception. But these prelates weren't canonically sent, therefore they're not legitimate ministers of the Word and of Sacrements, even if they don't pretend to use jurisdiction (which they in fact usurp by preaching, allowing religious orders, creating institutes and seminaries, etc.). The Canonical Mission is the only mean to recognize those who are legitimate ministers from those who are illegitimate and should be avoided.

[@michaelrex6948]

@@fidefidelis5306 Supplied jurisdiction is a thing under canon law.

[@fidefidelis5306]

@@michaelrex6948 Supplied jurisdiction only apply in particular circumstances, and moreover it doesn't turn illegitimate ministers into legitimate ones. For a minister to be legitimate, he would need a canonical mission, according to the dogma of Trent.

[@michaelrex6948]

@@fidefidelis5306 I'll try to explain it one more time. Supplied jurisdiction. It means that the church directly supplies jurisdiction without the explicit commission of the hierarchy. An example of when this would happen is when there is no legitimate hierarchy to confer a canonical mission, as would be the case if there were no valid pope, as the sedevacantists claim.

[@achillemetzger8303]

Ma question est la suivante font elles partie de la fraternité St Pie x

[@deutscheseele]

Non.

[@estherewamgall8565]

Bonne question ! Je me pose la même !

[@estherewamgall8565]

Alors, qui est cet évêque ? D'où tient-il son sacre ?

[@giak7525]

Is this a SSPX chapel?

[@S-z714]

No. Sedevacantist under bishop Sanborn. Sspx did just have one of their churches consecrated as well.

[@giak7525]

@@S-z714 who consecrated bishop Sanborn?

[@S-z714]

@@giak7525 i think it was Bishop Robert McKenna

[@S-z714]

Actually, bishop selway is the one doing the ceremony, but he was consecrated by Sanborn, Dolan, and Stuyver

[@giak7525]

@@S-z714 The new rite of ordinations are invalid so I was just wondering Who consecrated these bishops?

[@1951kvk]

Sisters the video is very blurry.

[@readerm8313]

It’s clear for me. Bad internet?

[@paulhudson4254]

Beautiful, must be SSPX? 🌺✝️🌺

[@readerm8313]

No. Sedevacantist. Have you seen the new sspx church they just consecrated? Pretty ugly. Compare the altars.

[@michaelrex6948]

@@readerm8313 What's your problem with the Immaculata's altar? ...apart from the fact that it doesn't have the prescribed canopy, but neither does this one... I have my problems with that church (and SSPX as a whole), but to call it ugly on account of its altar is... well, most people who object to do so on grounds of ignorance (i.e., the false notion that freestanding altars are anything but presupposed by the rubrics).

[@readerm8313]

First of all, we are talking about art and architecture. A lot of people today think that stuff is beautiful when I find it to be downright hideous. I don’t think anyone has a “problem” when their taste is different or just bad. If you like it, good for you. I am probably spoiled. That being said, what I dislike the most is the paintings. I think they ruin what could have been a beautiful church. They look like paint-by -number. I can’t even imagine seeing a painting like that in a church in Europe. I really do think the paintings are ugly. They look like something you would find in child’s coloring book. I don’t have a problem with free-standing altars. Some of the most beautiful altars in the world are like that. But that altar is not beautiful. It is plain. Which doesn’t seem right for an altar. Reminds me of Novus Ordo. I wonder why they didn’t do more. A canopy will be a nice addition, but that won’t make the altar any more beautiful. There are some things I like about the church, but the altar is not one of them. If I were to list traditional altars from most beautiful to least beautiful, this one is nearly bottom of the list.

[@michaelrex6948]

@@readerm8313 I'm committed to the assertion that beauty (let alone fidelity to the Church's legislation on sacred art and architecture) is objective, though I can grant there's room at least for preference -- though I should think not to the extent of disagreement on what is outright hideous... but I'll leave that. I agree with you that the paintings in the Immaculata are an absolute travesty, bordering on cartoonish. I was immensely disappointed when I first saw the sketches for it. Now, back to the altar... I'm not sure how it's "plain" (or even how much that should actually matter -- remember that liturgical law, though sadly not the SSPX, would have the altar covered with an antipendium at all times except the Diviserunt on Holy Thursday). It's certainly not plain in the sense of lacking color, though I suppose you could argue that the colors it has blend with its background, which would be a fair critique. The solitary Cor Unum design at the center is perhaps not as spectacular as it could be made (though, given the choice of that design, I'm not sure how much more could be done... a sunburst pattern behind, or a larger one if there's already one?). Bottom line, while I'd grant there's room for improvement, and I'm not calling it the most gorgeous altar in Christendom, I hardly see it as downright hideous. The altars at St. Peter's in Rome and St. Mark's in Venice (still the most beautiful church ever built) are certainly plainer than the one at the Immaculata, so while I think there's certainly room to criticize it, I'm not sure plain is quite the right way.

[@LUIS-ox1bv]

@@readerm8313 You're post lacks credibility from top to bottom. To make a statement that the altar of the Immaculata, looks like an altar in a Novus Ordo Church, is the height of absurdity and utter nonsense. The rest of your post is so sophomoric and puerile, its not even worth assessing.

[@johnraymond-pz9bo]

Bishop Selway had poignant sermon, 50 years without a Pastor (when he was Father Selway).

[@Piter_Play]

wait. Those are sedevacantists!

[@themodernmonarchist]

The future of the faith

[@eesoteric.]

@@themodernmonarchist nooo lol

[@giorgioagnelli5677]

le sorelle cantano benissimo,ma sono così buone che non esibiranno la loro bravura per non imbarazzarvi......

[@grantharmon8403]

Is this order in communion with Pope Francis?

[@readerm8313]

They are sedeprivationist. No way Pope Francis would let something this traditional function

[@grantharmon8403]

@@readerm8313 Yeah, fair point.

[@juanzevallos4003]

No they are mot catholic becareful please

[@giseleademers]

@@juanzevallos4003 You are confusing what is going on in your local churches as Catholicism, when it is not. It is the Vatican II modernist sect. Changing the Church doctrine, liturgy, disciplines to accomodate the PROTESTANTS in accordance with the humanistic spirit of the world. Nothing Catholic left except the hierarchical structure.

[@norbertonunes1094]

Ninho de cismásticos. Purifiquemos a igreja destas criaturas.

[@wariacikminecraft321]

Are you FSSPX nuns?

[@giseleademers]

NO

[@wariacikminecraft321]

@@giseleademers sedevacantists?

[@OrganNLou]

Ultra conservative church I take it?

[@bobbie8059]

Now, this law is for Religious Women. "Choirs composed of nuns and their pupils (female) singing in their own convent are permitted. However, they are NOT CHURCH CHOIRS IN THE LITURGICAL SENSE." The following is from New Canon Law, Canon 1264, maybe year 1934. "Religious women, in as far as they are allowed by their constitutions and the laws of the liturgy and of the bishop TO SING IN THEIR CHURCH or public oratory, shall occupy a place where they cannot be seen by the people." The following is from Chapter 12 from the Letter of the Cardinal Vicar (Cardinal Merry del Val) to those in charge of choirs in the City of Rome, February, 12, 1912. Notice that a female Religious cannot intone or do a part solo by herself but intoner should be 2 female Religious or if that part of Proper singing the Psalm part should be sung by 2 Nuns or Sisters. "Women who are members of a Religious Community, and, with them, theirs pupils, may sing in their own Churches and Chapels during liturgical services, according to the decrees of the Sacred Congregation of Bishops. However, we desire that the SINGING OF SOLOS BY THEM BE FORBIDDEN, and we recommend that they give preference to Gregorian Chant both at Mass and at Vaspers, which Chant should, if possible, be rendered by the entire Community." This shows another discipline to be promoted. The rendering of music by congregational singing and active participation of the faithful in divine worship. From T.A.C. "Divini Cultus Sanctitatem" IX from Pope Pius XI. " They (the people) may alternate in singing with the priests or the scholae, according to prescribed forms." The congregation should go back in singing and praying in Latin. My grandma who passed away in 1950's used to say the Angelus with her children in Latin. The big scandal is when Pope Leo XIII allowed the prayers after Low Mass (Leonine Prayer) in vernacular as long as the celebrant remove his Maniple or vestment. So, we go back to the original and some traditional priests say it in Latin and people answer the 2nd part of Hail Mary in Latin, Salve Regina and prayer to St. Michael in Latin. When the celebrant go to say a sermon, he remove his Maniple because he would speak in vernacular the Gospel/Epistle. It should also be done (the removing of Maniple) when the celebrant decided to pray the prayers after Low Mass in (allowed) vernacular. In the olden times, the celebrant remove his vestment and maniple before the sermon (maybe that's why the sermon was done before the Mass). In a High Mass, the congregation is NOT expected to sing the Proper of the Mass " but the singing of the responses and even the Ordinary of the Mass is feasible, while the singing of Latin and vernacular hymns (Entrance/Recessional) may reasonably be expected." These are all in unison. Low Mass is definitely ordered by Pope Pius V as NO SINGING but to enhance Sunday, Missa Cantata (High Mass or now they call Sung Mass) was promulgated by the same Pope. And this High Mass or Missa Cantata, " the ceremonies are somewhat abbreviated because of the absence of the sacred ministries; INCENSE IS NOT PERMITTED, and the celebrant himself sings the Gospels in the Deacon's stead." So, there's only 3 kinds of High Masses: High Mass (Missa Cantata) Solemn High Mass Pontifical High Mass There's no High High Mass with incense. The traditionalist movement invented that. We pray for these so the saints and God be pleased!

[@michaelrex6948]

Missa cantata with incense was a custom that developed in the 19th century, if memory serves. I believe it was approved by the SRC, but I can't find a complete record of their acts to corroborate what I've heard. Also, you forgot the "semi-solemn" Mass (with deacon but no subdeacon) which Pius XII approved for use in mission countries. Otherwise, though, I agree.

[@Rosaryofroses]

Indeed, this group breaks more laws than people are aware. Canon Law forbids the use of jewelry for religious with the exception of a cross or medal of silver (such as a miraculous medal for instance). The habit of the Sisters of Aquinas is also made of very expensive fabric (and pleated which is superfluous, and creates a need for even more fabric = more cost). So much for the vow of poverty. The Canon Law you referenced is from the 1917 Code, which is the only valid one. Commentary on Canon 492 by Rev. P. Chas. Augustine OSB, DD, 1918 "Material, form, cut, and color of the habit should be in harmony with religious modesty and poverty. Gold or silver ornaments, except a cross or medal of silver, are not allowed, and the image on these crosses or medals, as well as their inscriptions, must be approved or at least tolerated by the Church."

[@eesoteric.]

You’re schismatic ?

[@readerm8313]

Sedeprivationist

[@amdgbvmh7661]

Timeo autem ne sicut serpens Hevam seduxit astutia sua, ita corrumpantur sensus vestri, et excidant a simplicitate, quæ est in Christo.

[@readerm8313]

“ Though contemporary architecture dictates otherwise, its designs producing oddities or blights in the beauty of the landscape, a building's structure should be congruous with its intended use as it is key in rendering the atmosphere of our environment. A home should be welcoming, a city hall is majestic and austere, a cathedral lifts us to heaven with its towering spires and angelic arches. The motherhouse is the heart of a religious congregation; it is the source of its life-blood. From it, as from a fountain, flows the spirit which must animate and unite all its members into a force of good influence. Thus the convent building should reflect the quality and values of those it houses and breathe inspiration into those it nurtures.”

[@dioube45]

Catholique ?

[@colleeneldracher5658]

Oui, traditionale.

[@alejandrolupo1224]

SSPX?

[@Frank-828]

@@alejandrolupo1224 Sedevacantist

[@גבריאל1994]

@@Frank-828 in that case they are no catholics

[@גבריאל1994]

@@colleeneldracher5658 no this is a schismatic congratulation.

[@SESAURIOLARGO]

hahahaha... SSPX, YOU MUST LEARN FROM THE ROMAN CATHOLIC INSTITUTE ABOUT A REAL CATHOLIC CHURCH CONSECRATION!

[@bobbie8059]

This was an excerpt from the saintly Cardinal Merry del Val to those in charge of choirs in Rome, Feb. 12, 1912. "Women are forbidden to sing during the liturgical services except as members of the congregation. They may not sing in galleries either by themselves or as forming art of a choir." So, they can only sing in unison, not 2 or 4 voices or polyphonic. If you promote this rubrics or discipline of liturgical law God will be pleased and it's showing the faithful that this was really the way it was before and it says in the book, "Church Music Regulations, when they are preceptive (which is generally the case) and merely directive, ARE BINDING IN CONSCIENCE.

[@michaelrex6948]

del Val's comment is referring to lay women, not religious in their own communities, as is clear from the "sole" exception for those in the congregation.

[@outofoblivionproductions4015]

Very beautiful but saddened to hear this order is in schism with the Church.

[@deutscheseele]

Happy to hear this order a response to the crisis in the Church.

[@thomaslemonda4991]

E contrario! The Novus Ordo is in schism with traditional Roman Catholicism and dogma.

[@bobbie8059]

Who is in schism? Those who just continue to be Roman Catholics and ignore and avoid the Pope that has defected from Faith. On the other hand, those who are in schism are those that St. Paul's line, "If an angel..

[@fidefidelis5306]

@@bobbie8059 Council of Trent, at Sess. 23, canon 7, says that those who aren't sent by the ecclesiastical and canonical Authority of the Church aren't legitimate. It is de fide, without exception. But these prelates weren't canonically sent, therefore they're not legitimate ministers of the Word and of Sacrements, even if they don't pretend to use jurisdiction (which they in fact usurp by preaching, allowing religious orders, creating institutes and seminaries, etc.). The Canonical Mission is the only mean to recognize those who are legitimate ministers from those who are illegitimate and should be avoided.

[@bobbie8059]

@@fidefidelis5306 Council of Trent is Positive Divine Law. It's good you believe in that Council. No one can change what is taught in that Council just like The Ten Commandments. That's our Faith. Now, do you believe that each Pope are sinners like us and can defect from Faith? There is that statement from the Council of Trent that when anyone defected from Faith ( including Pope because he's a sinner like us, right?) you have to ignore and avoid him. Study how absurd the teachings of Vatican II is. Vatican II is a precursor of the One World Religion. Check what they say about Moslem. Council of Trent can only be applied to those faithful in Christ. The crisis today is that bad guys occupy Rome. Can't you see? So, to save our soul is to find a bishop that has nothing to do with the enemies of God, the Pope and those who wants to connect with them like Sspx. Sspx criticize Vat. II but regarding Sacrament of Matrimony, they ask the approval of the diocesan Bishop. I've watched an Sspx on You Tube and he said one can receive Holy Communion from a heretic!?! I will leave you with this (though I don't use a 1955 Missal: From 1959 Saint Joseph Daily Missal "April 13 - St. Hermenegild St Hermenegild was the son of the Arian King of the Visigoths in Spain. HE WAS PUT TO DEATH FOR REFUSING TO RECEIVE HOLY COMMUNION FROM THE HANDS OF AN HERETICAL BISHOP IN 586." The early Christians know their faith. They can't be fooled..

[@wd3980]

They are not in communion with the Catholic Church.

[@juanzevallos4003]

No they are not Catholic becareful please.

[@giseleademers]

@@juanzevallos4003 They are the only true Catholics.

[@RAPamme-ih8bm]

2:03:50 Litany

[@quinftbl]

Strange…

[@jameswalz2135]

...?

[@juanzevallos4003]

They are not Catholic becareful please

[@bobholmes65]

I do not understand what is going on. Absolutely beautiful, yes! However, not one of these men or women were born Pre Vatican ll so therefore Canon Law prohibits the use of Latin or the vestments. This is going to cause a schism in the Church if these bishops continue to go against our Holy Father, Francis.

[@BujangMelaka90]

You mean the modernist Canon Law of 1983? Mind you. Latin is never prohibited. Be silent if you know nothing.

[@petermuller3530]

Professor May, Kanonist, hat das Wort geprägt: "Wir leben in einer Zeit der Wichtigtuer und Besserwisser."

[@lyny8368]

Schism was by the modernists not by true catholics

[@joaovictoreuclidesmelo4072]

What? If you're serious about this, know that current Canon Law does not in any way prohibit Latin or clothing at all. By the way, this is not the function of Canon Law. And that goes for all versions of the Roman Rite

[@sharonlwarner8610]

I'm sorry, sir, that you are confused. Vatican II created that confusion, and Pope Francis has spoken many heresies. We do pray for him. Look into Church history, St Pius V, St Pius X. No schism here.just Truthful Worship to God our Father.

[@RAPamme-ih8bm]

8:10:18 Pater Noster

[@paoloferraris8518]

sorry but it's from the catholic church?

[@deutscheseele]

No, from Burger King, don't you see?

[@paoloferraris8518]

@@deutscheseele you're funny I see...I meant if it's a ceremony of the Holy Roman Church...and not of some strange and schismatic unrecognized appendage, such as Lefrevians...

[@deutscheseele]

@@paoloferraris8518 Holy Roman Catholic Church you mean, when a lgbtq*friendly guy who believes that Lutherans have true faith in Christ solemnly brings Pachamama idol in St Peter?

[@paoloferraris8518]

@@deutscheseele I understand ... you are another schismatic church that apes the Church of Rome ... after all you are Americans ... you have produced Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons ... to say the least!

[@deutscheseele]

@@paoloferraris8518 no, you actually don't understand 'a beata cippa de gnente. È più cattolico l'ultimo dei chierichetti cui le suore hanno fatto catechismo lì dentro che la metà degli uomini del Vicario di Soros.

[@barryegan2692]

Pity they don't follow the churches teaching since Vatican 2 not really Catholics just a group of people who cannot change

[@deutscheseele]

😂

[@franng7480]

I know they are problematic. I also know what "following the church's teachings" the last sixty or so years has done. Lost millions of laity and religious to other "faiths/sects. I have wondered if these people are on to something that others have been too blind to see. But many are waking up to the truth.

[@barryegan2692]

The church has moved on it has changed as society has changed Christ came to perfect tge okd law which meant change. The peopke who have left the church have done so with free will. The religious who.keft left because they were required to make decisions they could not. We have an informed conscience and we should be using it.

[@LUIS-ox1bv]

@@barryegan2692 Spoken like a true Modernist.

[@barryegan2692]

Luis Not a modernist but a real catholic

[@monsterlove2323]

Where is this?