Livescope VS Active Target / IN-DEPTH On Ice Comparison

[@mattsnow4116]

Hummingbirds mega live imaging is coming soon , so many graph options I can’t afford lol

[@zcookie9272]

I'm from the future lol. Mega live sucks

[@jakehart5163]

Can’t afford either lol but the garmin is clearly more crisp and has less of a delay

[@addictedangler4770]

Best fishing KZbin channel, period. Full stop. Thank you Jay

[@JaySiemens]

❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@richardgallant6175]

That seems pretty evident that Lowrance has a significant delay compared to Garmin...Brandon had the fish up the hole before it moved on Lowrance... Super informational Jay and Brandon.

[@JaySiemens]

Thanks for watching!!

[@ninjakiller07]

Perspective mode is a big help . Used it to find brush piles,fish ect . like they say ( look out in perspective) see things out there ,way better then forward view. Now one thing to try is lower your transducer deeper below the ice . I was able to pick of fish off with perspective mode . Run and gun

[@michaelshutt258]

Perspective mode is a GAME CHANGER when you are fishing 15 feet or less. The images are insanely clear. You can see insane distances (80+ feet). Finding fish/rock piles/any structure, perspective mode is way better than forward WHEN you are in 15 FOW or less. I have yet to get perspective to do a nice job deeper than 15. But do you know what lake most of us fish in 15 FOW or less? ... you guessed it - LAKE WINNIPEG baby!

[@JaySiemens]

I agree!

[@FoxFishing4K]

We tested both and in every aspect liveacope won.

[@mattwiederholt7258]

Great video both awesome Units. I just got a lowrance tripleshot 7x and for the $400 I paid I absolutely love the thing. Easy to use and set up. Only downside I have found is they can be touchy with voltage, if you are a little low on volts they will act a little funky

[@mackfrizzle5045]

I use Garmin, but I think Lowrance won. But I also think Lowrance had so many years to get this right and they did finally, that was after they screwed a lot of their fans out of MONEY with LiveSight. I like the competition between all three major fish finder companies I think they will all make each other better. I can't wait to see what hummingbird have coming out.

[@jessepettengill3442]

You should be able to adjust the ping speed on the Lawrence to correct the on screen delay. Open water around kenora by Easter weekend. Think positive

[@fishintime4547]

Hey Jay! Great video as always! I thought I'd would let you know that I went to Millers Meats on Monday and picked up a pouch of Catch N Cook! Can't wait to try it, just have to catch some fish first! lol

[@JaySiemens]

Thats so cool! Hope you're liking it!

[@frontierfishingwithRyanMacD]

Its interesting seeing the differences between the two units and you do an awesome job at presenting both.... The technology is definitely intriguing and enticing, but, to me its just MORE stuff to haul out on to the ice...

[@petergrangaard7565]

From my experience on mississippi backwater ice fishing. Perspective mode works very well. Better than forward mode for locating fish. I believe this is due to the shallow water I am fishing. 3 to 8'.

[@JaySiemens]

Good to know! Thanks!

[@glenndaugherity6187]

Peter what do you run Lowrance or Garmin ? We fish the Mississippi backwaters as well 😊

[@petergrangaard7565]

@@glenndaugherity6187 I run Garmin

[@joef.2908]

Something to know about livescope, the cable housing cracks right at the grommet on the transducer. It's a common problem. After 4 months mine cracked and now I'm waiting for a back ordered transducer. They were good about it warrenty wise but it cut my season short as far as electronics go. Summit makes a brace to protect against this problem, wish I knew that a few months ago!

[@JaySiemens]

Good to know! I haven't had that problem.

[@DaveDangles]

I found myself looking at the Lowrance screen the most

[@colinschell8978]

Hope sams back heals soon she is the best. Great video keep working hard man

[@JaySiemens]

She's doing much better now! Thank you!

[@troymoravec6552]

Great Video Jay thanks for the honesty. When you don't know, you're humble enough to say that vice guess. Keep up the GREAT work.

[@carllaney1870]

Great video! I’ve found that when I’m searching at farther distance with my livescope if you increase the gain significantly you can pickup crappies 80-100ft. You’ll have some interference but the fish will standout in the clutter.

[@JaySiemens]

Great tip! Thanks!

[@North_Star_Fishing]

I loved using the Garmin live scope this winter but the ice is melting

[@itszach6808]

I’ll buy it from you

[@JaySiemens]

The ice always comes back!

[@sunlee6984]

GARMIN all day!!! Best choice I made.

[@Waresdom]

Great video. However, I feel your angle on the Garmin Forward view is off. I have no problem picking up 8" perch 100ft away. When I see you click in the angle for the ducer it looked like it was facing down too much. Thanks for the info Jay!

[@JaySiemens]

Thanks for watching!

[@natesbaits4413]

Great video. Well done . Really appreciate the side by side. In my opinion delay is a huge factor. Delay drives me crazy when I'm fishing. I want to as close to real time as possible.

[@JaySiemens]

Thanks for watching!

[@scottabraham786]

Appreciate the vid Jay. My Active target is en route, looking forward to trying it on open water.

[@gtr319]

Im shopping for a Lowrance unit after situation change forces me to sell my Hummingbird head unit 😢 From what I see in the video seems like the Lowrance has about half a second delay VS the livescope and possibly vs the MegaLive as well. I guess its better than the Vexilar FLX-12 at a BIG lake vs a smaller local lake where I only need to know the contour Hate the situation I'm dealing with but it is ehat it is

[@SouthernReelsFishing]

Garmin is the clear winner.. Honestly I'm expecting a "hold my beer" moment any time from Garmin dropping some new hotness in response to all this new competition..

[@stevensteiner2539]

Rumor has it garmins coming out with a new livescope in late September

[@deesnutzfoo5232]

Garmin FTW!!!!

[@David-pk5vf]

Like always the video is great and helpful, thanks! Nice pike and walleye you caught there! You have the best channel, can't wait till you get 100,000 subs!

[@JaySiemens]

🙏🙏🙏

[@dustyroads204]

This is way out of my league but informative nonetheless, great comparison and feedback...... I just purchased my first flasher and learning how to dial it in!!! 80,000 subs and climbing 🧗‍♂️ fast...... please a few more ice 🧊 fishing 🎣 vids b4 the season ends ...... 🤜🏽

[@bono69ful]

Jay you explain so well. In your shop can you go through the live scope and say what all the settings mean and how to properly use it

[@JaySiemens]

I'll work on it next year! Thanks!

[@68FishingAdventures]

Garmin will always be the leader in this technology. That's why I stick with them!

[@chrissnineyearwildlifejour9525]

The Garman has better detail. You guys rocked those walley!

[@North_Star_Fishing]

Have been waiting for this

[@glenndaugherity6187]

Jay great video ! I got Active Target for my boat this fall and recently got the new Lowrance ice shuttle. I’m using my Lowrance head unit with the shuttle that came with a new AT module. The Live 9 has been updated but I did not update the module prior to using it this last trip. Should I update that new module ? For a better picture ?

[@jaywalley2662]

I have been wanting someone to do this. Thank you very much. I have Humminbird graphs and cant wait for that to come out. I will be waiting for your review on that.

[@joeyblanchard4024]

Jay, excellent video. Great comparison! The walleyes looked fun. I admire your entrepreneurial spirit with your business. Mentoring a younger guy....all great stuff!

[@JaySiemens]

Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!

[@canucklehead0]

Great side by side review of both systems. If it were my money today, I'd have to plop down the bucks for the Garmin. That said, and you're spot on with this Jay, an update or two and the Lowrance might just take it over the Garmin. Just as a note on the interference, depending on the power each unit is putting out, a separation of 10-15' would likely solve that issue and even on open water between boats I really don't see that being a cause for concern if you are thinking of investing in the Lowrance.

[@JaySiemens]

Definitely! Thanks!

[@timmyd5144]

I’d love to see someone test this fishing for steelhead in a river, great video.

[@senorburnsy]

Underwater camera side by side, please.

[@JaySiemens]

Great suggestion!

[@fishn365]

Interesting side by side comparison.

[@JaySiemens]

Thanks!

[@joshfaris5946]

I think the Garmin wins just because of the delay time on the other one while jigging. Seeing the fish's reaction to the moving hook is really important

[@JaySiemens]

Great point!

[@jacobwickman8504]

I bought a Lowramce this past summer. Never again. One of the most over marketed and underperforming units I've used.

[@JaySiemens]

Sorry to hear that! Thanks for sharing.

[@chrisodle9554]

What happened to catching that fish ( real quick ) lol great info as always

[@darcybain2657]

Great video I just started watching a few weeks ago, the first one I saw was your air fryer with Sam, you introduce Jayden, the next day we booked a trip next year in March, hopefully we will meet up

[@JaySiemens]

Thats great!

[@zcookie9272]

In my opinion the pictures definition was wider on the garmin but the clarity was better on the lowrance. I'd probably go garmin livescope.

[@JaySiemens]

Yeah I see what you mean!

[@zcookie9272]

@@JaySiemens I just like looking at a bigger picture then a smaller clear picture

[@bradcox1478]

Great video. Keep up the good work and can’t wait for open water fishing videos!

[@JaySiemens]

I'm working on it! Thanks for watching!

[@chrismuch2861]

Hey jay what brand peach glow 316 lures u buy

[@garrynaylor6360]

Awesome video- thanks to Weavers Bent Rods for suggesting I watch!!!!!!!!!!!

[@JaySiemens]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@1researching]

That pike was awesome!

[@JaySiemens]

Thanks!

[@jamieshullman]

Hey jay I love your channel, thanks for all the hard work you do in making these videos.

[@JaySiemens]

I appreciate that! Thank you!!

[@CaptainPatP]

Nice work Jay. One thing that that seems to affect range on livescope is voltage. At 16v seems cleaner and easier to pick out 12inch kokanee well over 100ft. Later in the day below 14v gets less crisp. Your unit was at 12.2v during the test. Just my impressions this season.

[@JaySiemens]

Thanks for the info!

[@jaymcnaughton8756]

Good job Jay.

[@JaySiemens]

Thank you!

[@bencreske2560]

Great video, I am just wondering if the Lowrance unit was blocking the garmin unit on the forward view? Where they both the same distance below the ice? You might have to try a test with one of them removed from the view pattern.

[@JaySiemens]

Could be! Thanks for the suggestion!

[@zackpotter765]

Garmin blows that thing outta the water. Thanks for the comparison

[@JaySiemens]

Thanks for watching!

[@fishinwithlandon]

Hey Jay I'm that guy from Instagram best video yet

[@THEJOKER2224]

What do you have all your settings on when ice fishing with livescope? Thanks

[@anthonypixley5123]

What where the settings you used for your active target?

[@Derrick_Neill]

If you have a more top of the line finder does it make the active scope less lag?? Like a higher end unit with maybe a better processor? Say a carbon or like that

[@dmnguye69]

Lowrance has a noise reduction knob that you can tweak and perhaps the annoying sonar pulse from the garmin won't be as noticable.

[@JaySiemens]

Good to know! Thanks!

[@Intimidator82]

When is the next batch of catch and cook coming out? Both of these units are great. If they told you what lure to use I still couldn't catch a 🐟. Well, maybe a small perch

[@JaySiemens]

Catch and Cook is out! Thanks for watching!

[@Intimidator82]

@@JaySiemens I bought the father's day bundle with the spices. I'm breaking that stuff out this weekend for my fish fry, can't wait!

[@mynihilism]

Turn the gain up on the Garmin and you will easily see the target at 70ft. All gains aren't made equal.

[@JaySiemens]

I tried messing around with gain. A lot of my tinkering wasn't included on the video. Active target was still the winner at distance.

[@GETxUxSOME]

@@JaySiemens Did you mess with the noise reject also? Seemed in the video like you turned it off on the Lowrance and not on the Garmin

[@derekbahr6285]

I wonder if it has more to do with the narrower cone angle providing better resolution at a distance?

[@jimwampol6657]

So why do you think the Lowrance has a dished bottom?

[@bolak198]

Hey Jay, based on your videography expertise, for audio you use Tascam DR-10L (240cad). Is there something like that just around the 80cad mark you could recommend?

[@Outdoorjunkie]

Lowrance hands down on detail and brightness of targets. But I would use a different palate than the red one you picked. Could be the processor in the head unit causing the lag? Can’t go wrong with either one. Lowrance will be tweaking their firmware in the coming months to make it even better.

[@JaySiemens]

For sure! Thanks!

[@thomasflannery8148]

Love your content!

[@JaySiemens]

Thank you!

[@simongohier-st-jean2670]

Hey Jay, if you had one pole for livescope both icefishing and openwater (on a boat). What would you recommend ?

[@husg13]

Grats on 80k. !00k Lez GOO Jay!

[@JaySiemens]

Thanks!

[@williamchaussee5721]

Jay quit being nice we need to know your opinion on which one is better personally I’m gonna go with garmin but I can’t afford either so I need your opinion

[@JaySiemens]

I guess you didn’t watch till the end? I said which I’d buy

[@williamchaussee5721]

@@JaySiemens yeah I laughed when I heard that at the end I commented this mid video

[@parko089]

is the distance just for forward mode or would it also effect you in bottom mode fishing 100 feet of water

[@moritztzume8504]

Did you fastforward your self while explaining at the begining?

[@vincewhiteman339]

beastly hooksets on brandon haha!

[@JaySiemens]

He gets it done!

[@Nohockey17]

What do you have the lowrance pack mounted in?

[@wisconsinwalleyesguy8442]

Jay, is that camera 100% ready? Asking for a friend...

[@LindustriesOutdoors]

The gpsmap series from garmin does allow screen recording, I’ve found that the gpsmaps seem a little more clear as well for livescope, probably just the higher resolution screens on the gpsmap series from garmin. Still amazing tech from both companies. Big fan of the perspective mode on garmin

[@JaySiemens]

Yup, I mentioned that gpsmap has screen recording in the video 👍

[@LindustriesOutdoors]

@@JaySiemens Noticed that lol, made my comment towards the beginning of it before I got done watching

[@jharri1]

Thanks Jay!

[@JaySiemens]

Thank you!!

[@Datenkabel]

You'll be huge on youtube mate

[@JaySiemens]

Working on it! Thank you!

[@daved2403]

I see the Garmin UHD 73cv on Amazon for $650, but that is without the transducer. Did prices go up that much in 3 months?

[@JaySiemens]

Could be.

[@skrotfiske]

Active Target is a bit more sensitive it seems although with a bit of a delay. Pretty impressed with the Lowrance tech with it being a couple of years behind with Garmin having held all the patents to that sort of tech and blocking other manufactures from developing live sonar for some time. Looks quite similar in many regards, i guess Lowrance got a peek under the hood of Panpotix/Livescope when Garmin lost that lawsuit to Navico and were forced to share patents. Livescope is def more refined but that's not surprising with Garmin being a couple of years ahead of Lowrance. Will be interesting to see the Humminbird version. Thanks for a great video Jay.

[@JaySiemens]

Thanks for the input!

[@tylerchindamo5175]

Do you have link to the dinner bell you are using??

[@JaySiemens]

No link, you'll just have to check out the Frosbite site to see what's in stock!

[@stevensteiner2539]

Garmin all the way

[@jonah6727]

Love the vids

[@josephwegner5457]

I had my livescope and my marcum lx5 side by side this past weekend. There is a delay with livescope too. That extra delay with the low range would drive me nuts. I love my livescope but for searching the small flasher is easier...also easier when my son is playing with the “fish tv” as he likes to call the livescope.

[@JaySiemens]

haha fish tv. Love it!

[@Noah_P]

Isnt there a hummingbird version out right now 360 or something

[@seewhyem]

That's the mega 360 but it's not live imaging like livescope and active target. Hummingbird's version will be called Mega Live but it won't be out until a few months from now. I believe it was suppose to come out this month but it got pushed back.

[@gr8_22-15]

Next mega live!

[@michaelhostetler5139]

Love your videos Jay👍 Come out to the Great Lake Erie and fish with me! Plus I got plenty of Mennonite in my area for byler lol

[@JaySiemens]

Hahaha love it

[@bankerliu1366]

Amazing

[@elidisse5915]

Does anyone else wonder if one day there will be regulations on electronics for fishing?

[@TheSaltblock]

Hope so

[@JaySiemens]

Could be! Also great to teach that its not always about catching your limit, but limiting your catch!

[@frozenphil]

I kept confusing which one you were talking about during this clip. You referred to them as Livescope/Active Target, but the labels on the screen say Garmin/Lowrance. Not everyone watches sober, you crazy Canucks!

[@JaySiemens]

Sorry!

[@bigbuckoutdoors7072]

Supper cool video

[@JaySiemens]

Thanks!

[@viktor36105]

не знаю зачем подписался но мне это все очень нравится. буду смотреть картинки

[@beboo_o1125]

In general, the TI units are faster in response to inputs. This is seen when quickly switching between sonar, downscan, chart, and split screens kzbin.infoUgkxeAxH15LxhjGlg5-CRYqjTGTEH0tbY4vk recommend The Hook units will show some lag on button pushes and screen switching. The big ticket item though is maps. If you install a mapping card such as Navionics or the free C-Map Genesis which has a lot of map detail, then moving around the map with the cursor or when running down the lake can lag significantly on the Hook units, but is seamless with the TI units.

[@maryrabel385]

The Garmin hands down looks way better

[@TheMcChesneys]

the delay on Lowrance is unacceptable. You had three cranks on the reel before the Lowrance screen showed the fish strike. This is not Memorex. We want it as live as possible. So you have to move around a little more with Garmin because the range is about third less.

[@smcgill148]

First will the legend respond

[@winstonzr9475]

Great video, with some really good info on both units...can I have the one you don't want please =)

[@steveschrock6203]

Love the show and the mennonite comment because im mennonite !!! LOL keep up the good work

[@JaySiemens]

Thanks for watching!

[@trevorwayne3586]

Soon you want even need a pole electronics will just catch the fish for you

[@torreyarmstrong3807]

The Lowrance looked better in my opinion

[@lucascanart8387]

just from those looks, the lowrance looks way overpriced for those awkward graphics

[@JaySiemens]

I appreciate the input! Thanks!

[@hootiesfilms6446]

Man, Lowrance just looks like trash compared to Garmin. Obviously still awesome technology, but just not up to par with the competition.

[@JaySiemens]

A few people have said the opposite! Interesting to hear opinions! Thanks!

[@jjrilea84]

Not a fan of the Lowrance at all. Garmin has so much better definition and accuracy. Also way less interference. Way too much glitching and I can’t stand the circle from the Lowrance

[@jjrilea84]

It’s like Original Nintendo vs. Xbox

[@JaySiemens]

Noted! Thanks for the input!