San Francisco has so many cool trains and buses running around the city!
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@InterRegios4 жыл бұрын
It's great to see how the ex-Milan streetcars are running in that Mint condition, despite being almost 100 years old!
@pippocalzelunghee Жыл бұрын
in milan there are a lot still in service
@lohphat4 жыл бұрын
The metro system is 600V at 400A. On shared bus and trolley routes the left wire is power but the right is ground for the buses since they can't discharge via running rails like the trolleys can. Metro trains can't run these routes due to the double wires as the pantograph would short across both wires. When they do run above ground they only run on street routes with a single wire, no electric buses can.
@TohaBgood2 Жыл бұрын
Just one correction. Muni has a separate modern light metro called the Muni Metro. These historic streetcars are a separate Muni service. They can share some of the tracks in some places with the Muni Metro, but for the most part the two systems stay separate. The Muni Metro runs like light rail in the farther out suburbs and in subways through the dense city center. So through downtown SF you have the option of taking the longer and more scenic route on the streetcars or the fast route via the subway Muni Metro.
@TexasRailfan21-RailfanRyan2 жыл бұрын
It's nice to see that San Francisco is still running their vintage trolleys and streetcars
@wjohn97784 жыл бұрын
The streetcar ride in San Francisco, is one of the biggest bargains in town. Great video, thanks for sharing!
@woodedlane4 жыл бұрын
Countless times, back in the 80s with the old buses - going up a steep hill and the transmission goes out. We all pile out, walk back down the street, catch another bus and hope this one makes it. lol
@aureliafrazier59274 жыл бұрын
Great story! 😊
@Speedbird1FLY4 жыл бұрын
Such a great variety of colours and models. I can't wait to return to San Francisco to enjoy such sights. Thanks for sharing
@LEONIDA18994 жыл бұрын
From 0:40 to 1:03 tramway milanese (from Milan, Italy)
@samuelbeep4 жыл бұрын
San Fransisco uses streetcars from all around the world. You can find more info on the fleet here: www.streetcar.org/streetcars/
@LEONIDA18994 жыл бұрын
@@samuelbeep the San Francisco city council is very clever
@LEONIDA18994 жыл бұрын
@K yes, it's mine too . The interior is very classic
@HenrikSweden14 жыл бұрын
Ah yes i knew i had seen them somewhere else. In 1978 i rode some of these orange trolleys in Milan. At that time there where many in Milan. The green one could be from Rome ?
@LEONIDA18994 жыл бұрын
@@HenrikSweden1 no, it's from Milan too. At 1:10 you can see on the side of the tramway the coat of arms of the city of Milan: red cross over white shield
@heronimousbrapson8634 жыл бұрын
The trolley busses and the streetcars can share the same "hot" wire (provided they operate at the same voltage). The difference is that the neutral for the trolley busses constitutes a parallell overhead wire while for the street cars the neutral side of the circuit is provided by the rails.
@Luke_Starkenburg4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I had not thought about this before. I knew that's why trolleybuses need two wires, because they have rubber tires instead of steel on street rails. I just didn't put them together. Someone else commented that the Muni light rail has a pantograph bar and the streetcars have a pole. The two can't share the same tracks.
@wolfgangmcq4 жыл бұрын
@@Luke_Starkenburg I believe that the streetcars can run where the light rail would (at least, the share the same voltage and track gauge); rather it's the light rail and trolleybuses that can't share an overhead line since the former's pantograph would short out the neutral wire needed by the latter.
@MrBnsftrain4 жыл бұрын
0:43 I always thought all Trolleybuses shared streetcar wires for part of their routes if the city had both I find it neat that the historic F Market line intersects a modern MUNI line
@blue9multimediagroup4 жыл бұрын
F is a modern line. It's only from '95.
@CaseysTrains2 жыл бұрын
The Muni Subway is probably my favorite thing about San Fran. It really feels like a true subway system until you leave the tunnel and go out on the street giving it a streetcar vibe. The Green Line in Boston, Metro Rail in Buffalo and The Subway-Surface Line in Philadelphia run in the same vein. Hybrid systems like that or "stadtbahn" as the Germans call it, just tickles my fancy. Where I'm from, subways were just subways and stood underground or ran on Elevated tracks over the street. When I came to Philly and later SF, I really grew fond of the subway trams.
@montblanc31334 жыл бұрын
This video was thoroughly enjoyable, I hope one day you can show Toronto's modes of public transportation. 🍁
@casual_boredom71954 жыл бұрын
If he did I think we'd be a lot happier given the CLRV streetcars have gone, at least someone would care about Toronto's transport.
@chuckoneill20234 жыл бұрын
I was in Toronto recently, still plenty of streetcars. Which system do you mean?
@casual_boredom71954 жыл бұрын
@@chuckoneill2023 Same system, but I mean the types of streetcars, the large older ones, (CLRV's , and the older bendy ones, ALRV's) have all been retired and don't operate normally anymore. (but there are a few for heritage service) All the other streetcars are now Bombardier Flexity streetcars.
@colormedubious47474 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that you didn't show the steps moving from platform mode to street mode. It's pretty cool. I got a series of stills of that in 2003 but it'd look so much cooler in motion. I'm also shocked that you included no gratuitous cable-car footage. Yes, it's primarily a tourist attraction but it IS actual rail transit.
@Luke_Starkenburg4 жыл бұрын
I also didn’t show any BART or Oakland airport train. That’s coming in a later video. I really wish I had gotten footage of the stairs raising and lowering. I should have waited to make the video until I went back and got some of those shots. Maybe someday soon I’ll make a San Francisco compilation video of all their trains and buses.
@colormedubious47474 жыл бұрын
@@Luke_Starkenburg Don't forget the SFO AirTrain, CalTrain, ACE, and VTA while you're at it. Ferries optional. :) The Bay area has just about every transit mode that exists except monorail, funicular, and MagLev. Seattle also had at least one combined streetcar/trolleybus line in 2003 (I think they're just single-mode lines, now). I wish I'd shot video on that trip but my cameras didn't have the memory for it and -- even just shooting stills -- I burned through 2 batteries daily on my primary rig and 1 or 2 on my backup. I have better gear now with a dozen 64GB cards and 4 batteries plus 2 chargers per rig but haven't had the time to do a follow-up. Looks like 2020 won't be the year for that. :( Keep up your fine work!
@usmale49154 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and entertaining video. Thank you for sharing!
@SpandauJerry4 жыл бұрын
Very nice video. Thanks for sharing these beautiful sights of an impressive transportation system. W/ love from Berlin, Germany.
@tadeslok6 ай бұрын
The surprising thing is that most of the trolleybuses are old Škoda 14Tr, only after a major overhaul. They have not been running in Kyiv, Ukraine for about 10 years, here local authorities considered them too outdated and bought newer models such as LAZ E301 or Bogdan T701. It turns out that Kyiv has money to update the rolling stock, and San Francisco, which is at least 5 times richer, has no money and it uses transportation that is long overdue to be scrapped.
@RRansomSmith4 жыл бұрын
That Hill at Mission Dolores is steeper on the street hence why the trolleys go through the less steep incline through the park.
@eating1004 жыл бұрын
Nice video, I visited San Francisco last year.
@ThermoMan4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. Now I really want to visit SF
@timelordtardis4 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful video. I've traveled on a number of the trolley buses, etc. in SF. The historical ones are great. Please do another one when all this virus business is over. Thanks for such brilliant views.
@Luke_Starkenburg4 жыл бұрын
I would love to! Thanks for the kind words!
@jeremymuther86564 жыл бұрын
Great video i grew up in SF 1989 live in Boston now I have seen all of the changes in muni pretty amazing
@TohaBgood2 Жыл бұрын
Wait until you see the new Central Subway that dips under the Market street BART/Muni subway! Despite all the naysayers, SF is making meaningful progress on rail transit!
@chuckoneill20234 жыл бұрын
Chicago had the electric trolley busses also, the last ones were discontinued in the early 1960s. They looked almost exactly like these. Do the different liveries of the street cars indicate different origins? I’ve seen something similar in Kenosha, Wisconsin. They have old street cars in different colors, with some interesting back stories.
@wolfgangmcq4 жыл бұрын
The PCC streetcars (eg 1:24) came from Philadelphia and Newark but have the livery of various PCC operators; other models mostly retain the livery of their original operators.
@fluff86d4 жыл бұрын
West Portal Station would have been cool to see in this video p, as well as the very long staircase leading down to Forest Hill Station, which feels deep enough to double as a bomb shelter.
@Luke_Starkenburg4 жыл бұрын
There is a lot that I wish I would have included in this video, including the portal and also the stairs raising and lowering. I try to keep the videos short and I was only in San Francisco briefly when I shot this video last year. When I make it back to SF, I'll definitely do more filming!
@bobduvar4 жыл бұрын
And the skyscrapers from Embarcadero Center.... OMG !! I miss San Francisco i knew and where i studied in the 80's....
@cantbeatthebay47654 жыл бұрын
This city is the best America has to offer.
@user-yi8iu9pm7y4 жыл бұрын
Вот это уровень жизни 👍👍👍😀😀😀
@anton27067 Жыл бұрын
@user-yi8iu9pm7y привет.Тут и уровень жизни и просто шикарная работа общественного транспорта.Хотелось бы там побывать.
@justus80404 жыл бұрын
You've got to give it to S.F. when it's public transportation (muni)is on time and hitting on all cylinder its a thing of beauty
@Luke_Starkenburg4 жыл бұрын
I love all the variety of transportation in San Francisco. They have everything except for monorail and maglev. Eventually, some day hopefully, they will even have high speed rail!
@davidnissim5894 жыл бұрын
@@Luke_Starkenburg Subway, light rail, streetcar, and commuter rail. Quite a selection!
@TohaBgood2 Жыл бұрын
@@Luke_Starkenburg I dunno, maglev and monorail are too gagetbahny for my taste. I'd rather SF build another BART line along Geary!
@jangenzer4244 жыл бұрын
Wow! There are trolleybuses Škoda from my country. (Czech Republic)
@kubilius114 жыл бұрын
Those were cool to see and the sound makes me nostalgic, the Škodas are also still used in Vilnius
@mmbmbmbmb4 жыл бұрын
A vigorous video of a City with a lot of vigor. Impressive diversity of transportation. Thanks!
@Thomas19804 жыл бұрын
L👍I👍K👍E ...great Video!
@RRansomSmith4 жыл бұрын
The Trackless-Trolleys only reach like that so they can stay in the transit lanes.
@wolfgangmcq4 жыл бұрын
Also, in places where there's no dedicated transit lane, so they can go around stalled cars and other obstructions.
@blue9multimediagroup4 жыл бұрын
@@wolfgangmcq yup
@JoseCampos-zr4te4 жыл бұрын
Excelente vídeo! Parabéns!
@malcolmnicholls28934 жыл бұрын
Fantastic.
@edisoneladiosanchezluarte6334 жыл бұрын
QUE BELLEZA MODERNOS TRANVÍA Y ALGUNOS RESTAURADO Y COMO TAMBIÉN LOS TROLEBUSES ES LO QUE NESECITAN EN SANTIAGO DE CHILE LA CAPITAL MUY CONTAMINADA
@aureliafrazier59274 жыл бұрын
Hi still watching your beautiful videos luke. Keep up the great work! Have you ever worked on any movie sets? 💕💕
@Luke_Starkenburg4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! This is just a fun hobby for me. I've never been on any movie sets or worked for tv or movies.
@aureliafrazier59274 жыл бұрын
Wel,l you do an awesome job, it is nice when you do things that you enjoy, and take your viewers on your journeys! God bless and continue on your path. Tyfs and for your reply! 🙇♂️🙇♀️💕
@OutdoorsWithShawn4 жыл бұрын
I wonder how much voltage and amps is used to operate one of those trolleys and/or busses?
@Dusolo4 жыл бұрын
600 volts on the over head power line before it transmits and becomes 24 volts to supply the interior lighting and others ., I believe the motor will needs the higher voltage
@MigoNL4 жыл бұрын
750V = About 250A full throttle
@chriswalker19934 жыл бұрын
Excellent video.
@MrSquareart4 жыл бұрын
very very nice video!!!!!!
@Luke_Starkenburg4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@lifesoframadhangaming73644 жыл бұрын
If only Cities Skylines make Tram and Trolleybus like this
@QuarioQuario543214 жыл бұрын
Would it be possible to run trains in the street automatically?
@Luke_Starkenburg4 жыл бұрын
There are companies working on automatic control in streets, which I don't think is a very good idea. There are self driving cars, and buses coming, but they don't have the weight and stopping distance that a light rail vehicle does.
@Luke_Starkenburg4 жыл бұрын
“Germany's Self-Driving Streetcar Puts Autonomous Tech on Track”. www.google.com/amp/s/www.wired.com/story/siemens-potsdam-self-driving-street-car-tram/amp
@Dusolo4 жыл бұрын
No right of way is no way automatic on the street
@davidnissim5894 жыл бұрын
No, traffic on Market Street is too unpredictable for the system to be automatic. Besides, I think it might be fun to learn how to drive one of those streetcars.
@georgechlada48684 жыл бұрын
No 2 trolley cars are alike, it seems, in San Francisco.
@user-jb2qq6ql8c4 жыл бұрын
It's great that you also have an underground tram in the form of a subway in San Francisco. Just in Rossi in the city of Volgograd there is a high-speed Metrotram.
@michaelboccino52514 жыл бұрын
I Really Miss the Muni When I Lived in S.F From Gavin Newsom to Mayor Lee ' I Left to Come Back Home to Jersey ' I Still Have Many Friends in S.F ' To Many Homeless People
@michaelboccino52514 жыл бұрын
I First Lived in the Castro at 17th and Diamond ' Then I Moved to Sacramento St and Polk ' I Used to Take the Cable Car or the No One '
@user-vo4yj6lk7f4 жыл бұрын
Great video 📹
@seeng_4 жыл бұрын
@로드뷰 여기서 뵙네요. 안녕하세용.
@user-vo4yj6lk7f4 жыл бұрын
@@seeng_ 안녕하세요 ^^ 반갑습니다.
@seeng_4 жыл бұрын
5:24 None stop??
@user-pc4md9jw5s4 жыл бұрын
Not in service
@chrismohlmann29613 ай бұрын
Trolleys bussen rijden ook in Nederland Arnhem
@gardenman34 жыл бұрын
It would b interesting if you could post a video of the same spots now.
@wolfgangmcq4 жыл бұрын
The only thing that's running is core bus routes; all the rail routes have been shut down and some have replacement buses instead. Otherwise the city looks pretty much normal; it's just a little quieter and everyone's avoiding each other. But you wouldn't necessarily notice anything amiss on the streets at first glance; everyone would be inside most of the workday anyway.
@eddietwele2244 жыл бұрын
I rode Baltimore streetcars until Nov.3,1963. I was very sad and crying. 😓😓😓😭😭😭😭
@Takeo.88272 жыл бұрын
When did u film these videos?
@LvdensArcturus4 жыл бұрын
how about riding one of theses lines in First Person ? full line 4k ?
@Luke_Starkenburg4 жыл бұрын
Maybe I'll do this the next time I'm in SF!
@b.b.b.k4 жыл бұрын
ステキな動画をありがとうございます。 とても懐かしいです。
@nocnymarek76454 жыл бұрын
What means Green paths (at the begining od movie?)
@Luke_Starkenburg4 жыл бұрын
The green path is a bike lane for bicycles.
@nocnymarek76454 жыл бұрын
@@Luke_Starkenburg THANKS for answer. Looks nice, we have red in Europe.
@danielsamuels58574 жыл бұрын
5:47-6:17, so it's like CBTC for streetcars, I mean light rail trolleys?
@Luke_Starkenburg4 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure I understand. I have no clue what CBTC is.
@wolfgangmcq4 жыл бұрын
@@Luke_Starkenburg It stands for Communications-Based Train Control. To answer Daniel's question, Muni tunnels currently use a CBTC system known as the "Automatic Train Control System" (ATCS), with a communications loop embedded iirc in the trackway.
@blue9multimediagroup4 жыл бұрын
@@wolfgangmcq that's not CBTC. It's ATC.
@wolfgangmcq4 жыл бұрын
@@blue9multimediagroup Muni says "ATCS is a type of Communications-based Train Control (CBTC) system": www.sfmta.com/projects/train-control-upgrade-program I'm not an expert on this, I was just going by what they said when they were explaining the system.
@blue9multimediagroup4 жыл бұрын
@@wolfgangmcq They don't know what they're talking about then. They're 2 different systems albeit both forms of control systems. CBTC calculates the position of one vehicle and determines how close another vehicle can get to it. ATC is a block based system. It only allows movement up to a certain distance and then restricted beyond that.
@matthew.maduli4 жыл бұрын
Been home away from SFSU. cause of the pandemic. Missin riding these babies for free :((((
@eileensweeney25004 жыл бұрын
When was this filmed?
@Luke_Starkenburg4 жыл бұрын
Last year, in 2019.
@michaelboccino52514 жыл бұрын
I First Visited S.f When Diane Fienstien' Was Mayor and Owned Half of South of Market 🤣👍
@rishi76293 жыл бұрын
This is emptier than a Sunday at Kolkata!.. How the fuq?
@worldwidebear19674 жыл бұрын
I like SF
@Gordon7054 жыл бұрын
How do you ride it? Do you have to buy a ticket or pass ahead of time? Is there a fare box for cash? How much?
@Luke_Starkenburg4 жыл бұрын
I haven't done it in w while, but you can pay $2:50 cash onboard. But if you want to ride the cable cars also, and also the Muni buses and Light Rail, I would purchase a day pass ($21), but you can't buy this onboard. I would go to a MUNI Underground station and buy it from a machine or the ticket counter.
@Gordon7054 жыл бұрын
@@Luke_Starkenburg thank you !
@royalakhdar86783 жыл бұрын
buses are just streetcars without rail or wire on top
@michaelboccino52514 жыл бұрын
When I Was There New Jersey Sent A Car to Be Put on the F line- Public Service '
@ericyt44654 жыл бұрын
U have to try LRT in jakarta also
@Luke_Starkenburg4 жыл бұрын
I would love to go and check it out!
@paulbielen92334 жыл бұрын
And they all have been pulled from service until this epidemic is under control.
@18_himanshurawat454 жыл бұрын
I like ling electrice bus with pantogram
@RRansomSmith4 жыл бұрын
Anyone notice that LRV arcing as it left the station? Not good, Muni. Fix it.
@OperatorLogan4 жыл бұрын
Great video! I work on the type of cars they use on the F line. If you like them you should definitely take a look at my channel.
@Bella9554784 жыл бұрын
Is it true that the quarantine is over or not yet?🤔🤔🤔🤔 when will the covid 19 ends?🤔🤔🤔🤔 I hoped not to wait until summer come back around😕😕😕😕 I just don't want to ruin my special day when it comes in the summer, I just hoped that it would turn back to normal of being busy in the city 🙏🙏🙏🙏😇😇😇😇 please father in heaven, I am begging you in the name of Jesus I pray, and so I hoped to go back to school, work, church and other activities of beinging activate again by moving around again. Please father in heaven, in the blood of Jesus cover you blood to cleanse the whole world to all be back to normal again forever & always🌇🌁 amen🕆🕆🕆🕆⛪🏩🏭🏥
@SUNNY-Z84 жыл бұрын
How about virus???!!!...nothing changed
@jeanpierredevos31374 жыл бұрын
This material belongs in a museum. The infrastructure and the whole transportation system is decades behind. Poor US
@AML20004 жыл бұрын
The street cars that run on Market Street are all museum pieces that come from various places in the world. Some of them, you'll notice, come from Milan, Italy. This is deliberate, not because of infrastructure problems.
@danielsamuels58574 жыл бұрын
On the other hand, some areas of the United States like New Orleans and Philadelphia would kill to keep historic modes of transportation like this. Don't ever say this one is bad again!
@Luke_Starkenburg4 жыл бұрын
Yes, these are old, slow, and inefficient, but they are rolling museum pieces and pleasing to locals and residence. They are usually full of high paying tourists and a few locals. I believe most of the manpower to restore these streetcars is volunteer.
@wolfgangmcq4 жыл бұрын
@@Luke_Starkenburg To add to that, the F line is running with traffic at grade anyway, so modernization wouldn't make it go any faster since it'd still have to wait at stoplights.
@danielcarroll33584 жыл бұрын
There are *two* more levels of track directly below the F line. The upper level is used by the other six tram lines in the city center. They run on streets or separate rights of way in the more residential areas. The lower level has the Bay Area Rapid Transit (BART) trains. These run at up to 70 mph, although on occasion up to 80 mph (128 kph). They run to the airport and to the cities on the east side of San Francisco Bay with ten car trains.
@josephcarlbreil53804 жыл бұрын
The Yanks aren't practicing social distancing, which is why Corovid-19 cases are soaring.