The BEST New Super Damage In The Game (Revenant Changes TESTED)

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Llama

Llama

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@fluxtheexo
@fluxtheexo 4 күн бұрын
so Tcrash damage testing was wack and cuirass should have been more SES does indeed buff aftershocks when cuirass doesnt but for SES: initial impact - 751834 explosions - 16396*11 aftershocks - 9832*4 total - 971518(same as the vid) so using Cuirass and the same amount of hits initial impact - 776895 explosions - 16942*11 aftershocks - 6554*4 so the total SHOULD BE - 989473 but the total in the vid is 955589 which is 33884 less than the theoretical which is exatctly 2 explosion ticks TLDR: Cuirass hits for 989473 instead of 955589 shown in the vid and is better than SES
@justkagyu4535
@justkagyu4535 4 күн бұрын
RIP no Raiju gathering storm testing...
@samspin429
@samspin429 4 күн бұрын
Raiju's probably doesn't add much towards total single target damage compared to star eaters unless the lightning strikes do more than 50% of the main super's damage each but it would have been nice to get some numbers on it.
@elchoronano
@elchoronano 4 күн бұрын
Perfect boss to try blight ranger too
@bradenroof6270
@bradenroof6270 4 күн бұрын
Raiju’s doesn’t add damage directly. You have to be on top of the enemy to summon the storm to do any extra damage, which isn’t really worth
@LlamaD2
@LlamaD2 4 күн бұрын
Ah forgot about that, sorry!
@gavo7911
@gavo7911 4 күн бұрын
I really want Bungie to explain why they felt the need to gut Star-Eater’s so much, because I really can’t wrap my head around it.
@mrcrensh3299
@mrcrensh3299 4 күн бұрын
i think their mentality is since it's available for all classes and it's ease of use is minimal, it would either make it harder to get the buff or decrease the damage and decided to just decrease the damage buff instead of making you go through more hoops to have it
@wolfgang5359
@wolfgang5359 4 күн бұрын
Still lose the buff on death anyways so still don't see a point to the nerf.
@josephcool981
@josephcool981 4 күн бұрын
Honestly, the fact that chaos reach with geomags is doing THAT much damage makes me so happy.
@ender7910
@ender7910 2 күн бұрын
Arc Warlocks will see big damage on Geomag and say "Hell Yeah"
@ElijXR
@ElijXR 4 күн бұрын
Keep in mind now that the actual Synthoceps (i.e., the gauntlets) should still boost Twilight Arsenal by 50% and thus be higher than the Star-Eater combo, given that you’re surrounded.
@ThePackman627
@ThePackman627 4 күн бұрын
oooooooooo I didn't think of that
@ibiddengt5023
@ibiddengt5023 4 күн бұрын
True, but if you're surrounded, then you just know axes will track to the ads. You are right though.
@thehashslaingingslasher
@thehashslaingingslasher 4 күн бұрын
​@@ibiddengt5023 facts. There's always that one axe that just wants to demolish the single thrall in the back of the map.
@vrika4280
@vrika4280 4 күн бұрын
I don't have access to the class items, why is Star Eater's less? Light gg says it's 70%
@RebelOfTheNorm242
@RebelOfTheNorm242 4 күн бұрын
Nerfed to 25% boost for twilight specifically​@@vrika4280
@adacskipper
@adacskipper 3 күн бұрын
It is insane to me that the highest damage super hunters can do is only 1 million damage... Meanwhile Titans are out here doing 2.1 million. Titans should NOT be the dps class; they already have the best burst damage AND survivability in the game but Titans were crying and shitting their pants so much when they got nerfed in Final Shape, and now we're back where we started: Titans being good at literally everything while Warlocks and Hunters play catch-up instead of playing the game. Titans truly are Bungie's youngest child.
@sakuraema914
@sakuraema914 3 күн бұрын
Titan is not top DPS class even for now if you really understand damage rotation. The main issue for titan was not being able to deal damage from a far distance meaning you are not even possible to damage some bosses. A skillfull hunter still outdamages other classes.
@duncanhawk4500
@duncanhawk4500 Күн бұрын
​@sakuraema914 we are talking about just supers and I can outdamage hunters and titan both on warlock while using well consistently sooo
@sakuraema914
@sakuraema914 Күн бұрын
@@duncanhawk4500 Well I didn't say you can't out perform any class using any other class if you are skillful. But for average players the balance between classes is a little bit better now.
@duncanhawk4500
@duncanhawk4500 Күн бұрын
@@sakuraema914 thanks fair I agree with your points just the problem for me is higher level play cases I feel like I'm throwing for being on hunter half the time
@DJungleskoggs
@DJungleskoggs 4 күн бұрын
Thundercrash does more damage cuz u have to throw yourself to the enemy whereas Goldie can be used anywhere
@TheArcturusProject
@TheArcturusProject 4 күн бұрын
Game devs remembered logic this season?!
@SealFormulaMaster
@SealFormulaMaster 4 күн бұрын
Yep. And once again Hunters ain't got stuff to do in PvE. Don't need Tether when you got Div, don't need GG when you got TC, don't need SS when you got Bleak Watchers. All the good Hunter supers are easily replaced by basically anything else. Only thing we can maybe kinda do is Beyblade builds, but I think most people play to use powers, not throw a ball.
@DJungleskoggs
@DJungleskoggs 4 күн бұрын
Also hunters should take into consideration that celestial golden gun is still good purely for versatility alone but what makes running celestial even better and makes it better than most is still hunt and the nerf to celestial was 5% so a 35k dmg loss idk what you guys are complaining about when star eater twilight arsenal lost 45% so a 365k dmg loss
@mosesslai
@mosesslai 4 күн бұрын
it’s very likely tcrash dmg buff is unintentional bc it’s like a 93% increase and we have never seen a super dmg increase even close to this big before, but i really hope they don’t revert this change bc tcrash DESERVES the top dps super in the game, not only you do you massively risk your own life (or straight up sacrifice yourself due to certain encounters) AND on top you have to reposition yourself to do dps after if you choose
@giantslayer9335
@giantslayer9335 4 күн бұрын
@@SealFormulaMasteronce again? Did you not see the class numbers for salvations edge?
@shadowtrooper6394
@shadowtrooper6394 4 күн бұрын
As a Nighthawk Hunter, I am so saddened by that damage
@giovannisola2164
@giovannisola2164 3 күн бұрын
Consider that most of the super above would take all the damage phase while you are done in a second and don't forget the still hunt combo
@ashrathi
@ashrathi 2 күн бұрын
Why are you saddened by it? Golden Gun has never been the top in terms of pure super one off damage. It's strong enough to allow you to one tap champs in GMs and allows you to have insanely high dps/overall damage in a practical damage scenario. So while other supers have higher damage than nighthawk, nighthawk still wins when it comes to actual dps in a damage phase. You can prepop celestial goldy and output 600k of damage in less than a second by the time damage starts, then go into cycling between your weapons, so you end up beating out every other super here when you consider overall damage output in a dps phase.
@roundraccoon6141
@roundraccoon6141 4 күн бұрын
One minor thing that might have looked cool to see is worm god behemoth melees yes it does stack and yes the damage is high.
@tylerviloria4699
@tylerviloria4699 4 күн бұрын
Was using that for a bit, pretty fucken nutty lol
@nunyabusnes
@nunyabusnes 3 күн бұрын
I could never get the setup right, I did it once
@iron883bb8
@iron883bb8 3 күн бұрын
I like that thundercrash is so high. It puts you in the ballsack of the boss where as twilight and golden gun and such you can do from safety far away
@ianmills6260
@ianmills6260 4 күн бұрын
Thundercrash is finally good! YIPPEEE :3
@chronic_broticus8832
@chronic_broticus8832 4 күн бұрын
>3
@typicalgamer3131
@typicalgamer3131 4 күн бұрын
its bugged rn but hopefully they don’t change it. it’s been a long time since t crash was the go to for titan dps and i miss it
@dankplagueis9253
@dankplagueis9253 4 күн бұрын
Tbh it SHOULD be among the best does one and dones considering how it also kills your dps with travel time and running back to plates
@TheArcturusProject
@TheArcturusProject 4 күн бұрын
And the danger of being inside the boss’s anus
@draysmusicalshtposts6340
@draysmusicalshtposts6340 2 күн бұрын
​@@typicalgamer3131 agreed. Titan main so I'm biased but my close friends are a hunter and lock respectively. Cuirass tcrash will shine in the content I can even use it on while the ranged 1-off super peeps can have consistency and not be gimped on a long range boss or plate mechanic.
@davidc3842
@davidc3842 Күн бұрын
I find it crazy that hunters now have some of the lowest dps supers in the game even tho their suppost to be about damage
@duncanhawk4500
@duncanhawk4500 Күн бұрын
And all the titan and warlock mains give me a hard time for pointing it out
@Efectivtrailer2
@Efectivtrailer2 4 күн бұрын
Crazy how far hunters have fallen
@sakuraema914
@sakuraema914 3 күн бұрын
No they don't. Hunters still do most DPS for average players.
@duncanhawk4500
@duncanhawk4500 Күн бұрын
​@@sakuraema914idk what the average player is but when I'm out damaging literally every hunter I lfg with while on warlock USING WELL there is a problem
@Purpletrident
@Purpletrident 4 күн бұрын
Song if Flame probably would've been over a million if you only snap
@starkraven1148
@starkraven1148 4 күн бұрын
Only snap use necrotic, I’d like to see numbers for dawn chorus uses with song of flame since it buffs scorch 🤔
@LordTonzilla
@LordTonzilla 4 күн бұрын
​@@starkraven1148not much of your damage is coming from the scorch itself during Song of Flame, so probably not a lot.
@Purpletrident
@Purpletrident 4 күн бұрын
@@starkraven1148 Dawn Chorus only buffs scorch damage, so it adds very little.
@LlamaD2
@LlamaD2 4 күн бұрын
I believe wisp snap is the most optimal combo!
@mosesslai
@mosesslai 4 күн бұрын
@@LlamaD2i think snap only is better total dps while wisp snap is better dps
@RebelOfTheNorm242
@RebelOfTheNorm242 4 күн бұрын
815k with twilight is still insane damage for a 1shot super. Im a titan main and im bummed the nerf was so damn hard, but thats still crazy good burst dps.
@Zekkotek
@Zekkotek 4 күн бұрын
And it weakens too. It can't be a super thats safer to use than crash and weaken and do more damage I think the changes make sense tbh
@hahayay1086
@hahayay1086 4 күн бұрын
your prismatic matiodoxia build with bad juju is so good right now, its making onslaught feel easy
@fishnutz5196
@fishnutz5196 2 күн бұрын
Funny how Hunters are the worst now 😂
@duncanhawk4500
@duncanhawk4500 Күн бұрын
I've been saying it since they announced star eatters would be om the other classes but everyone just laughs and tells me I'm smoking something. In my opinion by far one of the worst things they have done balance wise (that and just prismatic existing) I feel like hu t supers need like a 15% damage buff across the bord or something
@VulcanMaster3
@VulcanMaster3 4 күн бұрын
This damage test felt scuffed tbh
@ToxiiicGaming
@ToxiiicGaming Күн бұрын
Most are. Instead of testing the base dmg they skew the numbers by adding certain fragments. Notice how song of flame has no damage boosting ignition mods like the stasis and some solar supers
@duncanhawk4500
@duncanhawk4500 Күн бұрын
​@ToxiiicGaming and strand and stasis supers were only tested on prismatic
@1st_Atom
@1st_Atom 4 күн бұрын
no winters wrath with ballidorse?
@sakuraema914
@sakuraema914 3 күн бұрын
It really sucks now, ballidorse is barely even affecting winters wrath. It has absolutely zero value after the latest patch. I really hope it is not intended.
@duncanhawk4500
@duncanhawk4500 Күн бұрын
This damage testing was scuffed to hell. Looks like it was just done fast to get the numbers and not to much though. Like making sure re e to use the artifact and tonics but not different exotics or just baseline numbers is wild
@hdskullz
@hdskullz 2 күн бұрын
I really enjoy your videos. I had hoped to see unbuffed damage numbers. Meaning no potion or Exotic class item that people don't have. Keep up the good work!
@jackburkel4119
@jackburkel4119 4 күн бұрын
Did bro really forget that only snapping nets more damage for song of flame
@FreznyL
@FreznyL 4 күн бұрын
Stg and ur supposed to use claws
@jackburkel4119
@jackburkel4119 4 күн бұрын
@@FreznyL fr does this man even play smh
@carnage9536
@carnage9536 4 күн бұрын
It used to do less
@FreznyL
@FreznyL 4 күн бұрын
@@carnage9536 no just snapping does way more the nade is made for ad clear not dmg
@carnage9536
@carnage9536 4 күн бұрын
@@FreznyL using the grenade while the melee is on cooldown does more.
@sinofwrath698
@sinofwrath698 2 күн бұрын
Saw an aegis dmg video recently, apparently the numbers for t crash are a 83% or 93% boost in dmg? for a base i think, with failing star i think its like 55% or something like that. Different that what bungie put out for a 33% dmg boost. But this should be the realistic dmg of t crash, you're throwing yourself at the enemy, putting yourself in potential danger and if you'e in a dps window you're gonna need time to get back to where you were doing damage. Also can't be used on every boss like other ranged damage supers so yeah, the trade off should be more damage.
@NyxaeraNS
@NyxaeraNS 3 күн бұрын
So basically, Titan back on top... (cries in Warlock)
@logik1677
@logik1677 4 күн бұрын
Regarding Silence n Squal: because it’s a DoT effect it means you can do shooting dps at the same time, so add in firepower and that’s your validation. Just saying it’s dogshit at
@ender7910
@ender7910 2 күн бұрын
This wasn't that kind of test, it was just listing the raw super damage, of course you'll be using weapons in an actual encounter. But by that logic, Song of Flame or Well of Radiance would actually be #1 or #2 anyways - which to point out, rankings don't mean anything except for which supers are good for stand-alone damage according to this test. Otherwise I agree w you
@logik1677
@logik1677 2 күн бұрын
@@ender7910 yeah fair fair ❤️👏🏼
@logik1677
@logik1677 2 күн бұрын
Good to know the numbers still 💪🏼
@ender7910
@ender7910 2 күн бұрын
@@logik1677 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
@1ron_egg
@1ron_egg 3 күн бұрын
1. Glacial Quake: 2,168,051 2. Hammer of Sol: 1,166,372 3. Silkstrike: 1,066,830 4. Storm’s Edge: 985,118 5. Thundercrash: 971,518 6. Bladefury: 962,388 7: Song of Flame: 960,398 8. Nova Bomb: 845,303 9. Twilight Arsenal: 812,432 10. Burning Maul+Pyrogale: 777,761 11. Nova Warp: 766,127 12. Gathering Storm: 691,364 13. Blade Barrage: 634,609 14. Needlestorm: 571,296 15. Silence and Squall: 489,634 16. Spectral Blades: 390,082
@viktorforex
@viktorforex Күн бұрын
Thanks for pretty good testing !
@andersbylund2753
@andersbylund2753 4 күн бұрын
Is star-eater golden gun better or worse then nighthawk?
@jamilsalman8321
@jamilsalman8321 3 күн бұрын
Another thing people don’t realize is that nova bomb per tick can hit 100k if you apply a void weaken
@christopher_loren
@christopher_loren 3 күн бұрын
Why are you ranking them by total damage? DPS is more important when the dps encounter is
@ahskhero
@ahskhero 3 күн бұрын
that wasnt purpose of the video. tell me you are a hunter main without telling me you are a hunter main. everybody knows that hunters are damage machines. almost every world first was done with 4+ hunters. also, this video was just purely about the super. there are many other factors that boosts your damage. for example warlock, class item with apotheosis, vortex grenade, incinerate snap and nova bomb deals around 2 times the damage shown in the video. even 3 times when you apply weaken by a tractor cannon and getting radiant as well as activity surges and so on. ps my shift key is broken as you might have already guessed
@christopher_loren
@christopher_loren 3 күн бұрын
@ahskhero ranking them top to bottom in total damage is misleading to players who dont understand it. They might think behemoth has the best super (they don't). By actual dps, nova bomb gathering storm thundercrash golden gun and blade barrage should be at the top.
@sakuraema914
@sakuraema914 3 күн бұрын
Because this is only a super test. If someone would like to know how to deal damage, he/she should look for damage rotation videos. My point is you cannot deal optimal damage only by looking at a super test video anyway so no need to bother.
@sakuraema914
@sakuraema914 3 күн бұрын
​@@ahskheroHow do you sprint in any games bro 😂
@ahskhero
@ahskhero 3 күн бұрын
@@sakuraema914 It happend today. I replaced my keyboard with my old one that I gladly havent thrown away. Hopefully it will last for the Dungeon today.
@ahskhero
@ahskhero 3 күн бұрын
A thing almost nobody knows: Song of Flame actually deals more damage with only the melee ability. Try it yourself if you dont believe me, go check out the video of atzecross who tested it last episode in a Super Damage Test video (and yes it still deals more dmg this episode with a differant artifact).
@chrishaywood2458
@chrishaywood2458 2 күн бұрын
A thing no one knows yet there's like 5 comments in this video about it.
@ahskhero
@ahskhero 2 күн бұрын
@@chrishaywood2458 fr? Ive watched the whole video and cant remember a single comment about it which why I did wrote my comment.
@giantslayer9335
@giantslayer9335 4 күн бұрын
IMO the fact that nova bomb outputs a bit more damage than twilight arsenal is absurd. Twilight arsenal takes longer to cast and using the relic axes for more damage only prevents you from using other weapons, whereas nova bomb is a fire and forget. That, and the fact that Thundercrash is the highest burst super in the game now, is why pretty much everyone’s gonna use it over twilight arsenal. A shame. Love the axes.
@TBONES
@TBONES 4 күн бұрын
The nerf on twilight was so dumb
@jjosiino
@jjosiino 4 күн бұрын
That's wild that an auto tracking nova bomb with some unreal range does like 200k more damage than blade barrage, a super that requires you to be relatively close to the target for it to even get to 600k. (Also gathering storm, which is also not as easy to aim as nova bomb)
@fridaysatjons1097
@fridaysatjons1097 4 күн бұрын
Sounds like a hunter problem.
@IHadPotential
@IHadPotential 4 күн бұрын
Nova was also useless for 4-ish years, BB wasn't
@jjosiino
@jjosiino 4 күн бұрын
@@IHadPotential So what, are you saying to balance it all out, bungie is now making BB useless for 4 years as well?
@jjosiino
@jjosiino 4 күн бұрын
@@fridaysatjons1097 okay???
@IAyebadI
@IAyebadI 2 күн бұрын
Can you make a video that shows the highest dps builds with all the best artifacts mods in effect? Loved the last video you made for the previous episode!
@LlamaD2
@LlamaD2 Күн бұрын
I will eventually!
@andrewclark3926
@andrewclark3926 4 күн бұрын
Song of flame does more if you just use the melee charge and not the grenade
@wolfgang5359
@wolfgang5359 4 күн бұрын
Something to go with that, good luck trying to use that against the Witness. I'll bet Hunter is still the only viable class in Salvation's Edge since you can't even reach with most of the Titan supers, Warlocks ones and the ones that can reach won't do much, and Tether or Twilight Arsenal can't even apply weaken so Golden Gun is the only viable option, yet still got a nerf. Thanks Bungie, a screw up yet again.
@simianhawk
@simianhawk 4 күн бұрын
weren’t they saying they would change star eater thundercrash to make it worse than cuirras tcrash?
@dankplagueis9253
@dankplagueis9253 4 күн бұрын
They did. But barely. They also forgot to account for the 10% buff of prismatic and the fact that star eaters buffs the shockwaves
@SlongestKongest
@SlongestKongest 4 күн бұрын
4:10 not exactly If they all did the same that wouldnt be balenced either. T crash should be the highest or one of the highest as its the most risky super. While golden gun is the quickest to cast + pre cast aswell as the safest
@andreymavian3400
@andreymavian3400 4 күн бұрын
I think Needlestorm is bugged, it was doing this much dmg on Strand previosly with no star eater. It's supposed to deal more dmg than both Celestial and gathering storm.
@dankplagueis9253
@dankplagueis9253 4 күн бұрын
The strand version gets HEAVILY buffed by the evolution fragment. The special juiced up threadlings get hella stronger with that, but they also gain 0 benefit from star eaters. Just the initial burst
@allenparnell6170
@allenparnell6170 4 күн бұрын
Its obvious a couple supers still need help but I think these numbers are fine otherwise
@damsdee2214
@damsdee2214 3 күн бұрын
Imagine that. All of the hunter supers are out damaged by all other comparative supers.
@bekfistwolf8248
@bekfistwolf8248 4 күн бұрын
Man, bungie does not like hunters
@adrimides6091
@adrimides6091 4 күн бұрын
No shadebinder with balidorse? They buffed the shatter apparently
@route77productions
@route77productions 4 күн бұрын
It’s bugged apparently. Ballidorse is not giving the 100% extra damage.
@nunyabusnes
@nunyabusnes 3 күн бұрын
I also think that, because he is a boss, he auto shatters, so the shatter from the super would be useless ( correct me if I'm wrong, I'm a titan main)
@sakuraema914
@sakuraema914 3 күн бұрын
​@@nunyabusnesNot the reason. The buff gained from the exotic literally went down from 100% down to around 10 - 15%. No matter what do you deal damage against.
@internet-hacker1440
@internet-hacker1440 3 күн бұрын
Is that a-an um-umbral engram...
@ShiBBy1664
@ShiBBy1664 4 күн бұрын
Wow Thundercrash 😲 But no Moebius Quiver ?
@arthur_pd
@arthur_pd 4 күн бұрын
Because that's not a DMG super
@ShiBBy1664
@ShiBBy1664 4 күн бұрын
Huh, so what is it?
@arthur_pd
@arthur_pd 4 күн бұрын
@@ShiBBy1664 Moebius is a debuff super on enemies
@ShiBBy1664
@ShiBBy1664 3 күн бұрын
@@arthur_pd But the second shoot make damage When TWQ (void 3.0) came out it was a good dps and it could debuf too
@arthur_pd
@arthur_pd 3 күн бұрын
@@ShiBBy1664 yes, it could do more DMG on the second shot, but the problem is this super is in the lowest DMG super amount all of them, and it's usage is not mainly for DMG, but debuff first
@jamilsalman8321
@jamilsalman8321 4 күн бұрын
Could you try nova bomb with void weaken and facet of hope or grace whatever the different one is
@iemcripple5619
@iemcripple5619 4 күн бұрын
Might only need 2 t crashes for dsc
@kiritoequalspotato493
@kiritoequalspotato493 4 күн бұрын
Im pretty sure you do more with pyrogale when you direct hit instead of from a distance
@DerrickParr
@DerrickParr 4 күн бұрын
7:05 Radiant gives Blade Barrage more projectiles with the Knock ‘em Down aspect Edit: I have been corrected I misread the description of Knock ‘em Down
@bekfistwolf8248
@bekfistwolf8248 4 күн бұрын
You don't need radiant for that effect, the only interaction between radiant and knock em down is that knock em down allows radiant to effect golden gun
@DerrickParr
@DerrickParr 4 күн бұрын
@@bekfistwolf8248 I even double checked and still misread the description my bad lol.
@mangocad189
@mangocad189 3 күн бұрын
Seeing Gathering Storm being actual ass is wild seeing as it was THE pick like 2 years ago
@BOMBstylePRO
@BOMBstylePRO 4 күн бұрын
Can you do also thundercrash with synto (the arms)?
@wetpigeon
@wetpigeon 4 күн бұрын
Did he not have 3x roaring flames for pyrogales??? I didn’t see the buff
@JDJ1213
@JDJ1213 4 күн бұрын
You should’ve divided the damage by the time for the super to complete for a fair comparison.
@bullock-uv7bs
@bullock-uv7bs 4 күн бұрын
Remember when we used ti bring hunters for ult damage lol... I dont who in bungie hates hunters this much theyve been nerfing them and giving them crap exotics for the past 6 months, and we rejoiced for still hunt synergy just to get gutted lol
@MrLongshotbob
@MrLongshotbob 4 күн бұрын
I've heard just snapping in Warlock super is best for total damage.
@BBluenose
@BBluenose 4 күн бұрын
Thunder Crash is bugged it got a 93% unintended buff
@afri2n
@afri2n 4 күн бұрын
buff it even more
@bootlegbison3758
@bootlegbison3758 4 күн бұрын
Just triple spectral blade damage. Geez
@penguinsarecool6357
@penguinsarecool6357 4 күн бұрын
Doing only melees in song of flame is better than alternating
@Ryuko-Matoi1023
@Ryuko-Matoi1023 4 күн бұрын
thank god the stasis super for warlock wasnt tested lol that would have probably been very pathetic
@TheBitingBat
@TheBitingBat 3 күн бұрын
Star eaters is honestly not that worth it anymore imo. Yeah it buffs the super damage but that's it. I think now youre better off using super specific exotics that buff the supers themselves. Also rip raiju and ballidorse testing
@DaRealXotic
@DaRealXotic 3 күн бұрын
4:08 And they say Titan aint bungos favorite
@Twelvis69
@Twelvis69 4 күн бұрын
no morbius?
@thefourthhorsemanwithornam9314
@thefourthhorsemanwithornam9314 4 күн бұрын
Oh nice they finally fixed prismatic blade fury.
@Sobergamer61
@Sobergamer61 4 күн бұрын
Where is Raiju gathering? wtf?
@smiffy.airsoft.ghillie5861
@smiffy.airsoft.ghillie5861 4 күн бұрын
Song of flame does more dmg with necrotic/claw
@NoTalker_
@NoTalker_ 4 күн бұрын
what happened to golden gun💀
@ashrathi
@ashrathi 2 күн бұрын
I am so baffled by these comments. Golden Gun has never been the top in terms of pure super one off damage. It's strong enough to allow you to one tap champs in GMs and allows you to have insanely high dps/overall damage in a practical damage scenario. So while other supers have higher damage than nighthawk, nighthawk still wins when it comes to actual dps in a damage phase. You can prepop celestial goldy and output 600k of damage in less than a second by the time damage starts, then go into cycling between your weapons, so you end up beating out every other super here when you consider overall damage output in a dps phase.
@SlyRocko
@SlyRocko 4 күн бұрын
Please for all that is holy bungie do not revert the TCrash dmg buff 🙏🙏🙏🙏
@KingJC.
@KingJC. 4 күн бұрын
From 1.6 mill to 800k star eater twilight arsenal
@joker2pl713
@joker2pl713 4 күн бұрын
they hate hunters
@mochamp2234
@mochamp2234 4 күн бұрын
Dawn chorus dawnblade?
@LordWoolly
@LordWoolly 3 күн бұрын
Spectral wouldve done more without the heavy
@Mickey_Altieri_
@Mickey_Altieri_ 4 күн бұрын
Apparentally Song of Flame does more dmg by just spamming melee
@Genscora
@Genscora 4 күн бұрын
Why'd they nerf nighthawk?……
@Nexius_
@Nexius_ 4 күн бұрын
Can be pre-popped and works with still hunt
@Drougee
@Drougee 4 күн бұрын
What did you use for stasis titan
@JuggernautFit
@JuggernautFit 4 күн бұрын
Doesn't Cuirass give thundercrash more damage the further it travels? I think in the test it wasn't that big of a distance, but I could also be remembering wrong
@fluxtheexo
@fluxtheexo 4 күн бұрын
overshield scales with distance, damage doesnt
@JuggernautFit
@JuggernautFit 4 күн бұрын
@@fluxtheexo thank you, I had that messed up
@iAmViking94
@iAmViking94 4 күн бұрын
why use the artifact mod ? those aren't gonna be around forever , should've done the testing without the artifact and star eater
@t.e.a4357
@t.e.a4357 4 күн бұрын
because things get buffed and nerfed overtime, so rather than viewing the artifact mod as a seperate entity it's better to see it as a buff for this season alone
@Reibenkuro
@Reibenkuro 4 күн бұрын
No Ballidorse Wrathweavers test x.x
@joesaunders84
@joesaunders84 4 күн бұрын
Please bungo leave Tcrash alone
@fridaysatjons1097
@fridaysatjons1097 4 күн бұрын
Hunter supers at the bottom, where they belong.
@ixaldok8379
@ixaldok8379 4 күн бұрын
God, Celestial Goldie just gets wiped out by almost everything. Sad
@rubedo9068
@rubedo9068 4 күн бұрын
Not really considering a lot of them are roaming supers you are not using them in damage. Also nova and tcrash have way more downsides vs goldie so i think its okay if those 2 are better
@thealldayspecial
@thealldayspecial 4 күн бұрын
Exactly, it’s always about physical time and what you’re doing in that window, belting out a quick super that might not be the highest possible super damage can allow you to utilize the time window to throw in a ton more damage through weapons and ability action. Depends on bosses/activity and all that, things have their place over others etc.
@afri2n
@afri2n 4 күн бұрын
celestial goldie should never be the highest/meta, it has a high floor for the little amount of effort used, it’s just point and click
@fridaysatjons1097
@fridaysatjons1097 4 күн бұрын
Nighthawk really needed a more severe nerf maybe 10-15% nerf to bring it in line.
@CGormanR35
@CGormanR35 4 күн бұрын
@@fridaysatjons1097Nah thats just unrealistic 😂
@KapasaGamer
@KapasaGamer 2 күн бұрын
Poor raiju
@Han_Zolo_
@Han_Zolo_ 4 күн бұрын
Pretty sure Thundercrash is bugged. It's doing almost 100% more damage than last season
@YoungDyl99
@YoungDyl99 4 күн бұрын
you can delete this comment now :)
@diogoarvelos1797
@diogoarvelos1797 3 күн бұрын
The stasis super Hunter in stasis class do more dmg !!!
@Quantum_Magnus
@Quantum_Magnus 3 күн бұрын
Why do you hunters think celestial golden gun is bad now? It’s literally still the safest and highest dps super. No argument.
@FreznyL
@FreznyL 4 күн бұрын
Your supposed to use claws on song of flame and never use ur grenade it does more damage that way
@Hira-lit
@Hira-lit 4 күн бұрын
yoo i was here live
@SquishyGore
@SquishyGore 4 күн бұрын
Shadebinder balidorse got buffed, where’s that at?
@__NORO__
@__NORO__ 4 күн бұрын
Were are the titans saying that Titans are bad now because of some super nerfs, Titan still got the strongest super dmg
@123TheCloop
@123TheCloop 4 күн бұрын
that super is only doing that much dmg because the crystals clump up on the side of the walls for the boss to cause shatter dmg, any other boss in open area those crystals dont shatter unless they make contact with the boss so the dmg of stasis super is basically ass for boss in the open and amazing for boss wall humping
@__NORO__
@__NORO__ 4 күн бұрын
@@123TheCloop5 ults out of the top 10 from the video were from titan it’s not only glacier ist most often the ults that are strong or solid
@GoldenChainsaw
@GoldenChainsaw 4 күн бұрын
Glacial Quake has always had the highest damage potential but rarely actually does that much cause usually all the crystals don't hit boss. No one is ever going to use fuckin Hammers for DPS. Bladefury is a melee super so it doesn't work on most bosses. And Thundercrash is bugged and got a 93% buff by accident. And for the record high damage does not mean the super is good. Hammers might do a million damage but its not practical in most scenarios.
@__NORO__
@__NORO__ 4 күн бұрын
@@GoldenChainsaw even after all you said the Void axe ult did ~810k dmg and Nighthawk golden gun did ~690k dmg the void ult can be used everywhere because you can use it on range as well and I does much more dmg then most of the other ults from the other classes
@joshuathomas8158
@joshuathomas8158 4 күн бұрын
i remember when hunters were supposed to have the most super damage hence all the super damage enhancement exotics😔now our damage is sometimes not even a third of these low effort panic button supers (USING OUR EXOTIC)
@izanagisburden9465
@izanagisburden9465 4 күн бұрын
We cant win.... and its not even bungie. When the players base sniffs hunter being good all hell breaks loose
@Esther-303
@Esther-303 4 күн бұрын
They have supers that facilitate rotations Golden gun is the fastest and lets you get right into rotations Silence and squall whilst weak is great thanks to freezing auto loading weapons, letting you do better cascade rotations and lucky pants ones
@Esther-303
@Esther-303 4 күн бұрын
@@izanagisburden9465it’s not just hunters, every class has gone through it Warlocks with starfire + well, titans with strand on release and now we’re back to hunters with prismatic
@izanagisburden9465
@izanagisburden9465 4 күн бұрын
@@Esther-303 how long was starfire a thing a whole year.... how long was berserker whole year again... but the melee berserker was for 3 season.... How long did it take them to nerf still hunt? Not even a whole act let alone the whole episode for an year.... Synthos got nerfed on hunter.. all though they are already at reduced capability on other classes. But every other class kept full 80% buffing star-eater
@ianmills6260
@ianmills6260 4 күн бұрын
@izanagisburden9465 god you are dumb. Celestial is still the best damage super by a lot. Still hunt was the most overpowered gun in the games history.
@tylernor
@tylernor 4 күн бұрын
Yipee
@imberaeris6768
@imberaeris6768 4 күн бұрын
Hunter Class Identity: DPS Supers… I do like running T crash so that will be fun this season.
@Esther-303
@Esther-303 4 күн бұрын
They have supers that facilitate rotations Golden gun is the fastest and lets you get right into rotations Silence and squall whilst weak is great thanks to freezing auto loading weapons, letting you do better cascade rotations and lucky pants ones
@starkraven1148
@starkraven1148 4 күн бұрын
Probably will just stick to tether and pump as much weapon damage as possible.
@imberaeris6768
@imberaeris6768 4 күн бұрын
That’s fair. People often point to Hunter being defined by high damage super and mobility. Others arguably exceed in those areas. Not particularly unhappy, just an observation.
@Esther-303
@Esther-303 4 күн бұрын
@@imberaeris6768 since prismatic dropped Hunters haven’t excelled in high, one and done damage. You could even argue they haven’t since strand dropped with nova bomb and needlestorm outpacing them in the big number category Even then though hunters were still the damage class thanks to how quick their supers are allowing them to easily get into rotations. Their kits would also help massively with this. Stasis hunter has never been defined by ability damage but is consistently a top damage options because it lets people use rotations to their fullest
@Butidontactuallycare
@Butidontactuallycare 4 күн бұрын
you didnt use falling star on thiunder crash? what kind of tsting is this, you didnt use the proper exotics, you didnt test debuffs and buffs, you just crumbled together some BS and rushed it out, im so glad i skipped ahead and didnt waste my time
@LlamaD2
@LlamaD2 3 күн бұрын
I did use Falling Star, you can see it.
@Butidontactuallycare
@Butidontactuallycare 3 күн бұрын
@@LlamaD2ok maybe I need to stop skipping ahead and actually watch the damn videos, I won’t delete my comment so people who do the same can learn from my mistake, I sincerely apologise for the comment
@basedlordprime
@basedlordprime 3 күн бұрын
Man I am so glad I quit this shit game lmao.
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