Something Hurt, Something Wild

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Lisa Minzer

Lisa Minzer

Күн бұрын

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@jimdenis8611
@jimdenis8611 6 жыл бұрын
I grew up watching this on Sunday nights when I was a kid. It was a good show showing good against bad and the good always prevailed in a dignified way with nice looking horses, very likeable characters and nice guns. I'm now 68 and I still watch it, it was part of my upbringing. I still love it and it brings back good memories. Some things never get old...:)
@marthaashley2211
@marthaashley2211 2 жыл бұрын
I agree I too use to watch this when I was growing up. Loved it then and it's 2022 and still loving it.
@annemarie5851
@annemarie5851 2 жыл бұрын
64 and still watching!
@nancyswanson3255
@nancyswanson3255 Жыл бұрын
The same for me too.
@paulyricca3881
@paulyricca3881 Жыл бұрын
🚬👨🏻‍🦳🥃 SAME HERE MY FAVORITE WESTERN TV SHOW I REMEMBER WHEN IT USE TO BE ON SATURDAY NIGHTS IN 1959
@YW2324
@YW2324 2 ай бұрын
​@@annemarie5851 I'm 24 I started watching 5 years ago. Rewatching now. Love it. Especially joe
@cacatr4495
@cacatr4495 6 жыл бұрын
The title of this episode is " Something Hurt, Something Wild." It should be called " Something Twisted."
@charlesvan13
@charlesvan13 6 жыл бұрын
If you ever run into someone like that woman, stay away, and never go near her again.
@redblade8160
@redblade8160 2 жыл бұрын
charlesvan13 Unless she gets like that after you married her!
@dennishardy5024
@dennishardy5024 Жыл бұрын
I believe I'll second that.
@juancarlosquesada7074
@juancarlosquesada7074 3 жыл бұрын
We all carry tramatic past emocions that need to be healed.....This to me has been one of the best episodes....
@christinestephens37
@christinestephens37 2 жыл бұрын
See Dark Gate, Frenzy and Thunder Man. All mental issues.
@arieswaters
@arieswaters 6 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of my first love. May she rest in peace
@OriginalAsherella
@OriginalAsherella 3 жыл бұрын
Ben Cartwright: the rancher, the entrepreneur, the philanthropist, the fast gun, the father, the sage, the Native American liaison, the ladies man, the politician, the widower...And in this episode the crazy B whisperer.
@kytan3636
@kytan3636 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome...
@Gamer_Mama_0611
@Gamer_Mama_0611 6 жыл бұрын
I just wish this episode came with a moment of confronting the grandma. Or letting her see the hateful person she created.
@maychua3465
@maychua3465 2 жыл бұрын
The actress who played Laurie was so good esp in the ending scene.
@rodneybrimer1712
@rodneybrimer1712 6 жыл бұрын
My favorite scene is the bar fight. When Cleave keeps pushing Joe! Then Ben gives him the nod to whip his ass.
@jamarcusrichardson2150
@jamarcusrichardson2150 6 жыл бұрын
Rodney Brimer i
@elletrev8687
@elletrev8687 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah that was a good one too...And now cleve and joe are friends lol sheeshh
@elletrev8687
@elletrev8687 6 жыл бұрын
I just knew little joe would kick that dude's ass
@emeraldwaters8028
@emeraldwaters8028 6 жыл бұрын
I love Ben's restrained smile when Joe starts kicking Cleave's butt and then Joe's smile as he walks away from felled Cleave.
@adrian72300
@adrian72300 5 жыл бұрын
that scene is the reason i watch this episode...great father-son moment
@georgcorfu
@georgcorfu 6 жыл бұрын
The Cartwright men are all very nice men, real gentlemen .I wish there were such men nowadays
@DennisRegling
@DennisRegling 6 жыл бұрын
There are, but we're all married to fine women.
@grizzlycountry1030
@grizzlycountry1030 6 жыл бұрын
We're all single cause women aren't going for good men.
@duaneleerussell157
@duaneleerussell157 5 жыл бұрын
I raised 2 one married one engaged. Both gentlemen. Real men.
@flyone8350
@flyone8350 5 жыл бұрын
Your loving cops killed them all off.
@philipculver2719
@philipculver2719 5 жыл бұрын
Femi nazi's don't want real men. They want she-males.
@earnold1896
@earnold1896 2 жыл бұрын
That happened to my son. He met a psycho and was really nice and caring to her taking her nice things. One day he went to see her and she did exactly this and she said "I'm going to tell my mother you beat me up". He was astounded. She had originally told him some other guy had beaten her before he came along. Incidentally her mother never did anything, As my son said, the mother must've known what she was like. The crazy part is, she got married and is a health care professional. Yikes. My son got away fast from her when she turned psycho but he was hurt for a while. Gosh she looked to me like a nice person but was crazy. There are many out there. It's very scary. At the first and tiniest sign men must get away.
@thegreatbeanie6610
@thegreatbeanie6610 6 жыл бұрын
Watching this is like watching a mild horror movie shes out of her mind and down right creepy very creepy
@watchgoose
@watchgoose 3 жыл бұрын
Mental illness of any type is frightening for the person and those around them.
@josephzanes7334
@josephzanes7334 3 жыл бұрын
Little gurl had a devil take hold of her
@chriskim5589
@chriskim5589 6 жыл бұрын
This has got to be the most terrifying episode of Bonanza
@flyone8350
@flyone8350 5 жыл бұрын
Every episode with terrorist sheriff Coffee was far more terrifying
@OriginalAsherella
@OriginalAsherella 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. Legit.
@christinestephens37
@christinestephens37 2 жыл бұрын
Nope, see the episode Frenzy. You won't look at flowers the same.
@MegaWam1
@MegaWam1 8 жыл бұрын
We need a straight jacket and a padded room in this picture.
@stephenchristian5739
@stephenchristian5739 6 жыл бұрын
OH MY GOD DOES THIS FIT TODAY!!! IF I CAN ONLY TELL YOU WHAT HAPPENED TO ME. NOT 1 NOT 2 BUT 3 TIMES IN 35 YEARS OF BEING WITH WOMEN (or should i say female) WENT TO UKRAINE AUSTRIA RUSSIA MOLDOVA PHILIPPINES JUST TO GET AWAY FROM THE PSYCHOS HERE IN THE GOOD O'L USA !! THIS SHOULD BE A GOOD ONE THANKS FOR THE DOWNLOAD!! GUTSY TO DO A SHOW LIKE THIS WAY BACK THEN
@gerrydooley951
@gerrydooley951 5 жыл бұрын
The most troubling thing about this ep. is the tie that Ben's wearing at the beginning
@gkent4418
@gkent4418 3 жыл бұрын
Weird they had the pretty girl guest go in the opening credits from smiling face to psycho face!
@jarrodbarkley9061
@jarrodbarkley9061 3 жыл бұрын
Ha! You're right! 😂
@gw6496
@gw6496 3 жыл бұрын
That B was crazy as a road lizard!!!
@cohungtam1965
@cohungtam1965 2 жыл бұрын
I like clothes of bonanza so elegants
@sueannbellucci4304
@sueannbellucci4304 3 жыл бұрын
What I found most annoying was how evil the Ferguson's became after years of supposed friendship. And then when they figure it out they're all nice nice again. No way. Too much water under the bridge. They could have killed Joe! Grrrrrrr
@sueannbellucci4304
@sueannbellucci4304 3 жыл бұрын
By the way - Lynn Loribg was crazy over the top horrible. Yikes!!
@samuelrosenbalm
@samuelrosenbalm 3 жыл бұрын
@@sueannbellucci4304 The girl was under a witch's spell. She was a victim herself. And she was right to shoot the rapist in the belly.
@YW2324
@YW2324 2 ай бұрын
​@@sueannbellucci4304 Ya completely agree. Like heck no! 😞 You just tried to kill a young man over nothing.
@chainesaw
@chainesaw 2 жыл бұрын
Good show thay had loontoon wemen back then to.
@bettycreamer8486
@bettycreamer8486 3 жыл бұрын
Grew up watching every Sunday with my family always loved little Joe learned fight just like him
@Gamer_Mama_0611
@Gamer_Mama_0611 6 жыл бұрын
Children can be vulnerable, fragile, and easily susceptible to the opinions of their guardians. Children with trauma can be easily manipulated but this can backfire due to the illogical distortion the mind creates. So no bashing your exes or others to your children. They can either grow up with their own mind and beliefs or you can mess them up trying to control them.
@OriginalAsherella
@OriginalAsherella 3 жыл бұрын
She got crazy eyes.
@kevin-2.1
@kevin-2.1 10 ай бұрын
And a big creepy smile to go along with that.
@mjohn9199
@mjohn9199 5 жыл бұрын
@43 minutes into the video, that gal is a good actress.
@chitswe2831
@chitswe2831 Жыл бұрын
A nice film.Lyle Bettger is very good as a father. I h've usually seen him as a villain .This time he's as a good father . Thank much.
@michaelmckain2409
@michaelmckain2409 5 жыл бұрын
Little Joe always found crazy ones.lol
@georgespinks1
@georgespinks1 2 жыл бұрын
This episode of Bonanza is what a Lifetime movie (LMN) would have looked like in the 60's.
@rosalindayoung1088
@rosalindayoung1088 3 жыл бұрын
That girls eyes alone..ugh! Love how dad gave Joe the eye permission to kick his a** in that bar. Little Joe, stop making bad decisions, you're starting to get on my nerves.
@larissaquispe9624
@larissaquispe9624 3 жыл бұрын
Little Joe e muito fofo 💕💖💕❤️💕💖. sempre que pode dá uns beijinhos nas mocinhas.💕❤️💕💖.
@gkent4418
@gkent4418 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer any Bonanza ep that has a pretty girl to any ep that has none! I rate this ep good!
@angela.saez.1610
@angela.saez.1610 4 жыл бұрын
Bonanza for ever. Feb 2020. Blessings 👐
@jarrodbarkley9061
@jarrodbarkley9061 3 жыл бұрын
Lynn Loring played a lot of kooky characters on 60s TV shows.
@comfortouch
@comfortouch 8 жыл бұрын
The actress playing Lori did a good job playing a psychopath. Oddly enough, every girl I've ever known named 'Lori' is a psychopath.
@angelfromthesky8603
@angelfromthesky8603 10 жыл бұрын
That girl was crazy O.O!
@mwhitehall889
@mwhitehall889 3 жыл бұрын
That girl is CRAZY!!!!
@neritaquispe6812
@neritaquispe6812 3 жыл бұрын
Lisa você pode mandar os episódios legenda em português ? senão não posso ássistir. Obrigada.
@chrisreiss5348
@chrisreiss5348 2 жыл бұрын
Lori had nice, big, brown eyes!
@kennykittrell2549
@kennykittrell2549 9 ай бұрын
This is what I was accused of doing back in the 70's and it still isn't easy because the girl died in 2006.
@YW2324
@YW2324 2 ай бұрын
I'm so sorry 😔
@duaneleerussell157
@duaneleerussell157 5 жыл бұрын
She had to be crazy before she left
@oldermuscleguy
@oldermuscleguy 9 жыл бұрын
Lyle Betteger also was Ike Clanton at Gunfight🔫at OK Corral.And played a German Cpt.on Combat and leader of Skull Ranch on the Rifleman. Got the trifecta got killed in all 3 😂😂😂
@LuckyBaldwin777
@LuckyBaldwin777 2 жыл бұрын
That woman was crazy as a soup sandwich.
@strickly60s45
@strickly60s45 7 жыл бұрын
Okay, I get it....the nanny dished up a dose of poison and spoon-fed it to her grand-daughter. Now ....I see how it makes sense for some men to fear and dread their mother-in-laws.
@christinehaigh9807
@christinehaigh9807 9 жыл бұрын
Little Joe sure gets beat up a lot!!!
@josephk4310
@josephk4310 3 жыл бұрын
Jim Denis ex expressed my sentiments exactly
@marrianner.1682
@marrianner.1682 2 жыл бұрын
Well if every woman on Bonanza was not so beautiful, the Cartright boys would be better off.
@larissaquispe9624
@larissaquispe9624 3 жыл бұрын
Como eu sofro ,. Vou ter que fazer um curso de inglês,. Para assistir Bonanza. 👌👌👌👌.
@mwhitehall889
@mwhitehall889 3 жыл бұрын
Seen this....crazy girl.
@wandadeaton9532
@wandadeaton9532 3 жыл бұрын
Oh I do love little joy so and all that they have done what a pair and is the morning star and itis so beautiful I love it as well dont you
@winonamassingill7895
@winonamassingill7895 6 ай бұрын
Just the other day I saw one of these movies. This woman looks like Laura, the mother of a little girl named Peggy. Adam was there also. It had a good ending. 😅😅😅😅😅
@aparecidacampos1048
@aparecidacampos1048 2 жыл бұрын
Thanki. Saudosos emaravvilhisos atores. 💖💖💖💖🙏🙏
@alaricbrown9879
@alaricbrown9879 5 жыл бұрын
Dam bitch gone crazy. In my Richard Pryor voice.
@solog6518
@solog6518 3 жыл бұрын
She was emasculated by social norms, there being consistency in her life scared her and she wanted to prove she had just as much control as the people around her, her father manages his feelings well all throughout her life, he is a complete gentleman before and after her mother's passing. When he sets the picture on the chair in the room at the end, it signifies that Her mother was with him in spirit everyday. The daughter always had a natural sense of vulnerability and wanted to escape this role of being taken care of, even though it was beyond herself. Escaping her own well being Out of admiration for her dear father she was willing to prove that no other guy is half the gentleman of her father and even lies in the process Incapacitated with her reality she is struck with guilt for her ill intent and feels she cannot return to the same sense I don't think she was molested by her father, I think she admires how he manages himself and wants to be in her mother's place (role confusion) she will act out of control, for the same sense of control, that the people around her have, they deliver a sense of safety and she wants to prove that there is no safety- her life was a fairytale and every guy was at her disposal She didn't want to believe that life could really be a fairytale, rather admit she was wrong she wanted to think her father was running away with someone else "another woman" This was an episode no one wanted to Experience, very much a thriller but too realistic
@YW2324
@YW2324 2 ай бұрын
Yes completely agree 💯. Very realistic episode
@clydeholiday5907
@clydeholiday5907 Жыл бұрын
What about the guy that got shot
@escstudios2068
@escstudios2068 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that girl is crazy.
@drexmaverick
@drexmaverick 2 жыл бұрын
I've known alot of manipulative and life destroying women who did not all go thru a horrible ordeal to end up like that. Some of them were just that way since childhood. Anyway, this episode confuses me because I know that for some people it is very easy to snap them and it takes very little to break them, but I swore that girl was attacked in Boston. It doesn't make sense for her to snap that far over something that never happened. But I guess that explains mask wearers.
@MegaWam1
@MegaWam1 8 жыл бұрын
Joe needs to stay away from all these women in each episode. Hasn't he learned his lesson yet? Just about every women he mets, ambushes him.
@richardhaney6039
@richardhaney6039 8 жыл бұрын
Sorry, Joe can't help it. Nutjob girls, bar fights, what can you say? Just another day on the Ponderosa.
@jcclark7003
@jcclark7003 8 жыл бұрын
Joe loves young ladies to kiss.
@michelled.8593
@michelled.8593 6 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the 2 dead lovers. One wife, pregnant, murdered, then a fiancé.Joe just needs a steady warm garage to keep his unit parked, satisfied and safe.
@chriskim5589
@chriskim5589 6 жыл бұрын
or they all die
@thegreatbeanie6610
@thegreatbeanie6610 6 жыл бұрын
Ebony Man at times yes
@jaymaxfield5056
@jaymaxfield5056 6 жыл бұрын
HA!! Welcome to the world of crazy-a$$ed women!!😂😂😂😂
@valeriedorsey2917
@valeriedorsey2917 3 жыл бұрын
That bii was a fatal attraction slash crazy.biopolar.
@aaglad8604
@aaglad8604 6 жыл бұрын
she's a psychopath. run when u see one. nothing but trouble.
@peterpaul6725
@peterpaul6725 Жыл бұрын
All she needed was a lot of tender loving care😮
@kevin-2.1
@kevin-2.1 10 ай бұрын
She belongs in a asylum.
@zenyoidem2458
@zenyoidem2458 3 жыл бұрын
Good old movies
@jcclark7003
@jcclark7003 8 жыл бұрын
Joe loves young ladies to kiss and date
@chrisreiss5348
@chrisreiss5348 2 жыл бұрын
TALK ABOUT TOTAL REJECTION!...Joe better luck next time
@luthervanhoosier5136
@luthervanhoosier5136 3 жыл бұрын
It was a good series
@waynesworld7804
@waynesworld7804 2 жыл бұрын
It’s ok, they won’t be out this way. Omg, they’re out this way!
@winonamassingill7895
@winonamassingill7895 6 ай бұрын
Kinda corny but a nice movie so it gets my thumbs up. Great job 👏 of acting by Laurie.
@petegilardi2593
@petegilardi2593 5 жыл бұрын
wish Adam was in this sad he never came back imagine if he stayed or came back with Candy
@maryg7405
@maryg7405 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of Denise a freak that did that to few gents I knew and almost lured me and my sis n her friends taught her thing or two
@marthaashley2211
@marthaashley2211 2 жыл бұрын
This girl has huge problems. Split personality 4 one. She just created mess between 2 family friends.
@GeorgeBonez
@GeorgeBonez 2 жыл бұрын
Dating sure has changed. My son went on a date last weekend and his girlfriend kept apologizing for getting a woody. These kids today!!
@jesusrodriguez6193
@jesusrodriguez6193 3 жыл бұрын
Is this Scary!!! Oh boy!!!
@mywifesboyfriendisfire
@mywifesboyfriendisfire 6 жыл бұрын
Wow. I hope she won an Oscar or at least a Tony for that performance. We were literally terrified for Little Joe the whole episode.
@max0390rip
@max0390rip 3 жыл бұрын
All women are this way but won't admit it. No acting.
@wally1452
@wally1452 Жыл бұрын
One person in this series only should have won an Emmy Award...Pernell Roberts. Everything else was nothing. Some said to me that it was a western comedy, nothing dramatically serious except the episodes when Adam was the main lead in an episode. I agree with that re Adam...but this series is the most asinine, unbelievable "western?" I ever saw. All of Pernell's work is what I look for...the rest is all terrible. I wish I knew how to get all of Adam's solo acting episodes, but I am old, pc illiterate.
@ToniHunterOne
@ToniHunterOne Жыл бұрын
​@@wally1452make friends with a 20 to 30 year old. They'll help you.
@ForenObjex
@ForenObjex 11 жыл бұрын
Why do the female actors in Bonanza always have that same little mouse voice? Haha
@LoriCor-
@LoriCor- 7 жыл бұрын
mtf
@cacatr4495
@cacatr4495 6 жыл бұрын
LOL!! Oh, boy, yeah! (that's the way of the world.)
@thegreatbeanie6610
@thegreatbeanie6610 6 жыл бұрын
Robo Gato just noticed that lol
@Gamer_Mama_0611
@Gamer_Mama_0611 6 жыл бұрын
I think in the 60s, the preferred female had big fake lashes and a tiny fake voice to make them appear as sweet little dolls. I personally couldn't stand how she sounded.
@adamcheong4742
@adamcheong4742 Жыл бұрын
Joe never learn to stay away from the mad woman.
@mikedrane6472
@mikedrane6472 3 жыл бұрын
I love Bonanza always have what scares me is That there is women like that Back in those days they taking you and strung you up
@mikemcgrath5188
@mikemcgrath5188 7 жыл бұрын
YOSH! dat section of nevada iz noted for itz poopless horses. no pies in dee streets, amazing!
@cacatr4495
@cacatr4495 6 жыл бұрын
mike mcgrath No water troughs for the horses either. We never see anyone watering the horses.
@KKohl
@KKohl 3 жыл бұрын
“ Fist “ time I see Ben approving son to fight when usually he stops them. Good father Seems all the women courted by the Cartwright boys do not have mothers. Most evil looking puny female eyes I have ever seen, real or not. Lol.
@paulyricca3881
@paulyricca3881 Жыл бұрын
👩🏻‍🦳 GREAT PSYCHOLOGICAL BONANZA EPISODE
@oliviagonzales9040
@oliviagonzales9040 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes Joe, doesn't think right, definitely biting more than he can chew. 1St the sheriff, yeah Dad Ferguson and brother has been very reasonable.
@adelalax3553
@adelalax3553 7 ай бұрын
Love covers a multitude of sin 1 Peter 4:8
@arturochaparro6687
@arturochaparro6687 3 жыл бұрын
Las mejores ceries
@SmutchyBritches
@SmutchyBritches 2 жыл бұрын
A fence never made for good neighbors and doesn't take the palace of good understanding.
@teodorachavez2272
@teodorachavez2272 8 жыл бұрын
yet"" too. come.💎💋💋💋💔💗
@McIntyreBible
@McIntyreBible 2 жыл бұрын
She’s totally whacked out (40:46) !
@samuelrosenbalm
@samuelrosenbalm 3 жыл бұрын
The witch who twisted her up should get her comeuppance.
@ganapathiprakhya2063
@ganapathiprakhya2063 3 жыл бұрын
Good 🌃
@jarrodbarkley9061
@jarrodbarkley9061 3 жыл бұрын
The brothers voice is a bit over the top.
@gladysrodgers4015
@gladysrodgers4015 6 жыл бұрын
How is it that people are to ignorant to look at their own sick child and all out blakin stupid ignorance how plain something is wrong
@corey1054
@corey1054 6 жыл бұрын
3 Minutes in. Joe is with a Beautiful woman and they seem to be taking to each other. Whats the bet shes going to die? Thats not a spoiler I honestly dont know.
@arieswaters
@arieswaters 3 жыл бұрын
Carazy #!!!
@DS-me1ui
@DS-me1ui 3 жыл бұрын
PSYCHO!!!
@hannahandrews984
@hannahandrews984 9 жыл бұрын
That Cochise's mane is fickle! I'm serious--one show it'll be black, the next white, then black, then white, and ever since season seven, it's been changing. In the episode Justice, it was black, then a few scenes later white, and then later It was black again!
@noahfricke7837
@noahfricke7837 9 жыл бұрын
I read somewhere that the original Cochise was killed. Someone broke into the stable he was in and stabbed him to death and severely injured a few other horses.
@hannahandrews984
@hannahandrews984 9 жыл бұрын
*nods* yeah, I read that pretty recently, too. It's really sad--I know Michael really loved that horse, and his heart was probably broken. My certainly would have been.
@kathygetchel4657
@kathygetchel4657 3 жыл бұрын
@@hannahandrews984 Michael Landon put up a sizable reward for the person responsible for this despicable act, but no one was ever apprehended.
@carmelaszymanski8104
@carmelaszymanski8104 2 жыл бұрын
Dirty Dogs..Even Then In Programs. Yukk
@carladeaver8746
@carladeaver8746 6 жыл бұрын
That's how folks breed hate. #EvilDoers
@saleemkader2126
@saleemkader2126 6 жыл бұрын
Some women go buzzark , sick in the head , we men are not born crazy women make us go buzzark . Sorry for the spelling I wasn't dropped from England. Lol
@elletrev8687
@elletrev8687 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Now lol
@thegreatbeanie6610
@thegreatbeanie6610 6 жыл бұрын
Hay I'm a girl I'm not crazy
@thegreatbeanie6610
@thegreatbeanie6610 6 жыл бұрын
I meant hey not hay lol
@Gamer_Mama_0611
@Gamer_Mama_0611 6 жыл бұрын
Men are Lazy. Women are Crazy. The lazier a man acts, the crazier a woman can become. The crazier a woman acts, the lazier a man can become. Women often get emotional, and men retreat. But in this situation she was prejudiced against all men. Most of the men acted like gentlemen, except for the man who grabbed her (this goes to show that not all men are perfect). But this episode wasn't about the honorability of all men, it was about her mental trauma and how it distorted her perception of all men.
@minivegana1355
@minivegana1355 6 жыл бұрын
@@Gamer_Mama_0611 WOMEN ARE SO MEAN AND MEN ARE SO DUMB!!
@juliahamilton9125
@juliahamilton9125 5 жыл бұрын
BONaNZA is On!😯😛😜🤤
@johncole3010
@johncole3010 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, reminds me of my ex-wife. Bipolar or something. Little Joe just kissed her
@beccataylor2842
@beccataylor2842 9 жыл бұрын
I know that girl was trouble
@raymondlucero4999
@raymondlucero4999 2 жыл бұрын
And so produces entitlement! Spare the rod spoil the child. Or in this case a grown "woman".
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