[LN] Power Core Engineer 36.451 03.10. Patch [OUTDATED]

[@XperiaK974]

Hello ! Thanks for the build. Quick question tho, is it possible to replace the "Gadgeteer" trait in Tool ? That mine thing seems kinda clunky lol

[@nevermindCreations]

Possible of course, as always its just a question about the dps loss :D If you look in the Elite Insights report (Player Summary > Outgoing Damage), "Throw Mine" is the one skill that contributes the most to your overall dps (4073.55). If you are not playing Gadgeteer, you lose half of the Mines (11 hits instead of 22), which would cost you ~2000 dps alone. Now it also decreases their cooldown by 20%, so you would get another ~2 mines less out, which is again maybe -400 dps in the end Other GM traits in Tools are sadly not able to make up for this dps loss - Adrenal Implant forces you to dodge more often which is an even greater dps loss and Kinetic Battery only helps you with Quickness uptime. That might be nice if you are in a dysfunctional group, but Gadgeteer is better in most situations. (It also makes the A.E.D. window longer and decreases its cooldown :))

[@SweetPotatoGW2]

👑Move aside PDD gamers.

[@xedes]

Is the idea basically to use priority skills off cool down and use up your dodges when you have nothing more to cast except rifle autos?

[@nevermindCreations]

Yep thats basically it! There are some things to beware of though, like if you dodge back and use "Throw Mine", a 2nd mine will spawn due to the "Gadgeteer" trait - but at your feet. If you are outside of the hitbox at that moment, it will not detonate and cost you some dps. So ideally you can dodge after a Grenade2 and run back in the hitbox while throwing a Grenade4 or 5 - as these are ground targeted and will not interrupt by camera angles (other than Rifle1/2/3/4 which easily cancel if you are moving and facing the target in an incorrect angle).

[@xedes]

Oo thanks for the tips, that's very helpful. I'm already having fun with it, was particularly interesting to play at Deimos with dodge management for pizzas

[@enorenwtf]

cringe question: what if I wanted to completely avoid using the grenade kit? is it still the best choice for the toolbelt skill or is there a better one?

[@nevermindCreations]

Maybe Big Ol' Bomb would be a bit better then (but swapping to grenade kit isnt that hard, just do it after every Rifle2 and throw what you have from Grenade2,4,5)

[@enorenwtf]

@@nevermindCreations yeah I know, but I want to try to keep the apm as low as possible because I'm using it in ht cm and I have to deal with abunch of stuff (and I also kinda have to rifle 1 more often to cleave far mobs, so not much time for grenades), can't tunnel vision on rotation

[@nevermindCreations]

@@enorenwtf Oh yeah thats fine. I am not sure if you want to dodge around that much in HT CM as the edge or black is often pretty close :D So it will never be best in slot there, if you want to have something more meta and easier, probably Power Soulbeast or Power Virtuoso would be good picks now (Rifle Mech is still not completely unusable). Still just take grenade kit, even if its only for Grenade Barrage (or spam a grenade every now and then)

[@enorenwtf]

@@nevermindCreations I already tried it today and it's not bad, one annoying thing is that sometimes the extra mine doesn't explode even if I detonate the main mine manually, not sure why, and it reveals me during mass invis. Also it's not great against the champions with small hitbox, but overall it has more dps than mech and power virtuoso (when I don't fuck up), but I'm not sure if it's worth to not have a blink.

[@nevermindCreations]

@@enorenwtf Well if you are so much against grenade kit, you could of course use Rocket Boots, which are in this setup even traited, which means 1200 range and lower cooldown! :D I mean .. thats what we used before every could blink ...

[@finnleyjack331]

Does this still work? I wanna do core engi cuz I'm a broke cheapskate rn TvT.

[@nevermindCreations]

Hey! Yes, that still works and has gotten a bit more popular in the last few months. It just says "Outdated" because I benched it a bit higher. There was a patch affecting it a tiny bit, but really only changed the auto-attack pattern. Instead having a "shot-shot-grenade" AA, we now have a "shot-grenade" AA which is a bit less pew-pew-y, but has the same damage coefficients added up Don't do it because its cheap - do it because its a lot of fun! :D

[@CapitanBreakfast]

This might sound salty but it isn't... Why would you play this build when there's literally 3-4 button builds that do around 40k DPS and don't require constant repositioning by the boss and keeping track of 12+ cooldowns. Why work extra for less efficiency and DPS?

[@nevermindCreations]

Nah its not salty, I would never claim that this will become a meta build :) Its mostly about playing a class that you like (or see how far you can push it). I could argue that it might help some new people that dont have access to DLCs yet, but I would not recommend this at a beginner level. Shorter answer: I'm an engi main and it is stronger than Power Holo, Power Mechanist and comparable to Power Scrapper right now

[@CapitanBreakfast]

@@nevermindCreations kudos for a competent and professional reply. Here's my subscribe.

[@Baseraver]

@@CapitanBreakfast honestly, can you imagine how it feels to style on everyone using a more difficult core class? this shits amazing, why would I ever be fine with using low complexity specs everyone plays? the beautiful thing about engineer is, everything about it is cool except Power Mech core engi, pHolo, cHolo, cMech variations, scrapper all are interesting

[@J0kuc]

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