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[@Devoted_Divination]

"Six fingers and 3 f'kng eyes" .... lol. 😂 So true. Martyn, we can always count on your honesty. That's one of the many reasons we appreciate you. ❤ Thank you for this video.

[@martys_musings]

Haha 😆 thank you so much for watching ❤️

[@mercifulmermaidtarot2630]

What they don’t realize is, a lot of Tarot readers are also artists. We are not going to support the erasure of our industry and our livelihoods. As an artist and Tarot reader myself, I’m very disappointed. Not only is AI art taking the work of artists without their consent or compensation, it actually destroys creativity. People are too lazy and cheap to work through the process of brainstorming concepts and hiring an artist to render them. I could go on, but I agree, AI art is wrong on so many levels.

[@tobykai6]

On a related note there is an article that seems to have gone under the radar about Universal Music signing a deal to train AI to make ultra high fidelity vocal models of their artists. They can now put out new music without their artists being involved at all, but the label says of course they wouldn't do that. I remember David Grohl going on a rant about the death of human creativity but maybe he was right.

[@mercifulmermaidtarot2630]

@@tobykai6 They had better not. I wouldn’t be surprised if there are retroactive laws created in the future that force companies to compensate artists for the use of their voice and art.

[@martys_musings]

You know I agree with every word you said Amanda. It's wrong on every level.

[@78puertas]

The main issue with AI is that it's already here, It's not something about the future. I'm from the generation when you had to take the photo roll film to have them revealed, and when a cell phone was something new and it was just for phoning, and there were no electronic toothbrushes, etc. Everything changed (not for good, in my opinion), and the same is going to happen with AI. There are interests on it by certain people (look for automatic driving cars in a near future... 🥲 that will steal away from us the pleasure of driving the car) and it's already happening to the Tarot sphere. In a not too distant future AI will also make tarot readings so we will be redundant, and there will not be a need for learning how to read the tarot, because you will always have a free app who will give the message to you and thus you will be cool and part of the group and so on... So no, I'm not optimistic about our future in the tarot community, I mean everyone, artists, readers, schools,..., possibly in the long run even for publishers, as the apps will make them unnecessary. Thank you for the video, Martyn.😀

[@piquedametarot]

Same age group, same concerns. And AI readings already happen. On the other hand I also notice more and more people want the face to face readings again. They don't trust online readings anymore, even phone readings. They want the real thing and a human encounter...in the real world.

[@martys_musings]

Thank you so much for the feedback my dear friend. I have to agree with everything you have said. I don't think it's going to end well do you? 😔

[@martys_musings]

I hope so. I enjoy face to face readings. It's more of a human connection.

[@lilahunnisett]

Thank you for standing up for real artists and the true soul of tarot. Sad to see that Lo Scarabeo are following the AI path.🌷🌷

[@martys_musings]

You're welcome always Lila 🩷🤗🩷

[@lilahunnisett]

@@martys_musings 🩷🩷🩷

[@Patchwork_Tarot]

Thank you for bringing this to my attention, Martyn - particularly the fact that they deleted comments. I have no interest in supporting a company that would erase the comments and opinions of the community it claims to serve. Bad enough they've jumped on the AI bandwagon.

[@martys_musings]

Thank you so much for watching. I think it's important that these issues are spoken about. I'm pretty disgusted with Lo Scarabeo for deleting all of our comments.

[@onenessemporium]

I think once the sales go down they will stop doing it . They won't want a backlash

[@martys_musings]

Well let's just hope there is a backlash ❤

[@Masculineintuitionreadings]

Llewellyn needs to stop with the effin’ boxes and dumb guidebooks. Like, everyone hates them, they’re so annoying. I love thinner cardstock but it needs at least a blue core… I’m so over llewellyn.

[@martys_musings]

Same Levi. This Lenormand offering is atrocious.

[@NYCHFAN]

I don't purchase anything from Llewelyn anymore not only because of the box situation, but because they put more quality into the books (which I don't use), and the cards look like cartoons to me.

[@Frakkyfire]

Thanks for bringing this to light! I’m hoping that if enough of us stop buying (and send feedback on why) then maybe they’ll rethink this move.

[@martys_musings]

I'm hoping so too. But seeing as they removed all of our comments on their Instagram feed. I doubt they are bothered at all what we think.

[@ikalesunflower]

Odear, I hope Lo scarabeo change their mind. I totally agree with your points on lenormand decks with distracted artwork. Plain and simple imagery to me make lenormand more readable ❤

[@martys_musings]

It's published B so I very much doubt it. Unless people stop supporting AI. There will always be a market for it. I don't like busy Lenormand decks either ❤️

[@bhaktyma]

Thanks for this share. The 'ai' in the @addy of that deck gives it away. This is a wave that we will probably not be able to stop but as artists and tarot lovers we can be the revolution and fight for our art; we may find that our nemesis (ai) will strengthen our love for the true art form ❤

[@martys_musings]

I hope so my friend. I really hope that people do fight back against it ❤️

[@astralmermaid]

Card stock is so important to me, Not a large obnoxious box that fits nowhere :( Great to hear you and I too feel the same about AI 💕

[@martys_musings]

Same Dani same. Spend more money on the actual product. Not the unnecessary packaging 🩷

[@kimj8540]

Thank you so much for including your book recommendations for beginners

[@martys_musings]

You're very welcome.

[@cardsbydoortje]

I completely agree with you about AI decks !!! As a big Lenormand lover I also bought the Lustrous Lenormand. Unfortunately I don't use it because of the horrible cardstock. I was very disappointed when it arrived. The book from Lisa Young Sutton is my absolute favorite book for the Lenormand I love it !!

[@Blu-skies]

How sad that my favorites like Blue Angel and Lo Scarebeo are selling AI. I worked hard being a drafter/architect/designer. It's so sad to see less traditional mediums being used.

[@martys_musings]

I feel for you. I really do. Sadly, it doesn't seem that AI is going to disappear anytime soon.

[@NYCHFAN]

Unfortunately, AI is here to stay. How you feel about AI is how I felt about CGI when it first came out. I can always tell CGI to this day. I imagine AI is going to get better and eventually will be hard to tell the difference. Those of us "raised" on original art tarot will always be able to tell the difference, but the new readers will see AI as "normal". 😢😢 Technology has changed our society so much, I'm glad I'm a senior, and I hopefully won't be around to see the total destruction of our humanity. 💔💔💔

[@martys_musings]

I agree with you. I felt the same about CGI too. There's just no soul in this kind of style. One day, it will be harder to tell the difference to a lot of people. It's sad that the Tarot publishers are jumping on board. Give me a good old fashioned hand illustrated deck over anything ❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@Sohmet]

I agree about AI and about storing air with all our money. I'm all for card-sized boxes, e-manuals, and books published as books. If the manual is valuable not only for complete beginners, they will buy it separately.

[@martys_musings]

Exactly that my friend.

[@DaraDione]

Thanks for this! I'm a hard 'no' on AI decks, too. Thanks for showing Lisa Young-Sutton's Lenormand book -- I only just started learning Lenormand end of last year and Lisa's book is my go-to, as her way of sharing the cards just makes so much sense to me (and it helped that all the material was also available on her YT channel so between the extensive videos plus the book, I'm good for now). Blessings!

[@martys_musings]

Thank you for your support and watching. Lisa's book is amazing I find. It really is easy to follow and as you say, makes sense 🩷

[@AngelicLightWisdom]

Thank you for speaking out about the AI issue in creating decks. I have access to AI software for professional reasons and I played with it creating images and I'm telling you it's too easy, you just need to tell it very briefly what you want in simple words and it gives you a complex image just from that. AI "artists" are not artists. They may pretend for the public that it takes them a long time to generate an image because the average public doesn't know how little it takes to generate a good enough image. These companies that are trying to save money on AI artwork make a huge disservice to real artists that work hard to create and promote their work. AI images are soulless, you can recognise them from a distance and they all look the same. I'm so disappointed Lo Scarabeo chose this way and especially I'm dissapinted they deleted your comments.

[@demeldapenkitty7937]

I completely agree with you Martyn AI is totally soul less and its so sad to see mass market publishers doing this. Deleating comments they don't like is not helpful and just adds insult to injury.

[@juliab.1001]

That's why I don't like La Scarabeo now. But there are still a lot of others publishing that don't use AI . HayHouse, Rockpool, Cico, Simon & Schuster, Llewellyn Publications and ect.

[@martys_musings]

Yes that's true. I hope they don't migrate to using AI in the future.

[@fenrik8178]

Damn my first tarot deck is from them, luckily from like 5 years ago so no AI bullshit then....

[@fenrik8178]

I did recently find out I bought a lenormand and tarot deck made by AI though. It’s not been sent yet so I hope to get my money back.... Bad on me for not researching more I guess :(((

[@Black.DragonTarot]

I'm surprised at how many indie decks are AI - and they don't even have to put that jn the description. At the very least it should be very clear that a deck you are purchasing is labeled as AI. I'll be damned if I pay 50$ for a deck that took zero effort to create while oher indie decks can take YEARS to make and sell for the same price. Its infuriating

[@WhitsundayOracle]

“No soul at all” nails it. I no longer back indie decks or mass market decks unless they explicitly state no AI. Such a shame about Lo Scarabeo, one of my favourite publishers - until now 😟

[@martys_musings]

I know. I feel exactly the same about LoS too. I will no longer be purchasing anything from them.

[@karensorrentino9498]

What Lo Sacrebeo did by removing the comments on your post was wrong, but I’m on the fence about AI. I was very drawn to two decks that were AI generated. When each artist explained the process and how long it too to create each card I began to see it as a different art medium -in the same vein as collage decks. I have creative ideals, but have no artistic talent for drawing or painting. AI could help me create works of art that are locked in my head with no outlet. I purchased the 1 deck that was for sale and I have had amazing readings for myself. Your comment about a deck having a soul has me thinking. Thank you for sharing and opening the dialogue.

[@martys_musings]

Thank you for watching. I don't honestly care how long that someone claims it takes to make an AI image. It's theft. It's a huge pool of existing art that people have already made. Not only is that unethical. It's also making real artists suffer.

[@karensorrentino9498]

@@martys_musings if they are stealing that is unethical! I thought that images were being stolen. I’ll have to research this more. Thanks for explaining.

[@martys_musings]

@@karensorrentino9498 you're welcome ❤️

[@wren1019]

omg, when i first got the forest of enchantment the card stock was so awful! i was very angry because i had followed the progress of that deck. however, when i purchased it again the card stock was much better (i think it was just laminated more, but it was still better). artificial intelligence created art is not acceptable.

[@wittykitty2274]

Really it will depend on sales. This is a pretty good test to see if the average tarot buyer will buy an A.I. deck. Personally, it’s a hard “nope” from me. Our job is to make sure as many people as possible know which decks are artificially created. I hate getting duped.

[@martys_musings]

I feel the same as you. We shall see how many people will be putting AI decks on their Instagram feed.

[@midnightunicorn5139]

I have only one ai deck (Journey to Oz and Wonderland Tarot) and I don’t generally go out of my way to buy ai decks. The two guys that made it were honest about the fact they were using ai manipulation. I have to be honest if it didn’t feature characters from the Wizard of Oz and Alice in Wonderland it wouldn’t have interested me. For a mass market seller like Lo Scarabeo to be creating an ai deck is worrying because most ai decks are absolute dog 💩 I’ve seen loads on Etsy 😪 and they all look like they were knocked out in a few weeks. Let’s hope it’s not a sign of things to come. And now to Llewellyn 😪 I got the Bee tarot last month and while I do like the deck images and I didn’t have issues with the guidebook I do have some issues in general. Huge boxes 🤦🏻‍♀️ would it kill them to make the box smaller and the book fatter so I don’t have several huge boxes taking up unnecessary space. Also the new fake linen card stock 💩🤦🏻‍♀️💩 I’ve already damaged a couple of cards and they are not going to hold up to the test of time. They’re thinner than before (and they were thin anyway) and they feel like they might rip if I look at them the wrong way 😅🤦🏻‍♀️so bad. I have two lenormands (I’m not really used to lenormand so I’ve noted down the books). I have the Under the Roses Lenormand and the Mystical Lenormand. Simpler decks should be easy for me to use eventually 😅

[@fernandamccormack]

I threw about 15 llewellyn boxes away last week! No place for them!

[@midnightunicorn5139]

@@fernandamccormack it’s so annoying. I’m going to end up just getting a bunch of tarot bags and throwing all the boxes away

[@martys_musings]

This is what happened to a couple of my Llewellyn decks. I only dropped a card on its corner, and it bent all the way back so it's damaged now. I wished they would listen to the community and give us what we want. US Games will always be the best with deck production. I can't fault them at all.

[@midnightunicorn5139]

@@martys_musings I just got the Fyodor Pavlov tarot (US Games) which has linen effect thin card stock but doesn’t feel as flimsy as the Bee Tarot by Llewellyn 😪 Llewelyn are just getting worse

[@NYCHFAN]

​@@martys_musingsI love US Games.

[@Joyinbar]

What happened in Friday?

[@aspasiarising4732]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts and views, Martyn. I must say, I am a huge fan of Llewellyn card stock. I have Steampunk, Witch's Garden, Witch Sisters, Tarot of Vampyres, and probably others. I love it because it works so well for small hands like mine. Ciro Marchetti must have recently signed on with Llewellyn because his Mystic Palette deck mass market editions are with Llewellyn (and those cards are huge). Hopefully people will express their views on AI with their pocketbooks, which is the love language of capitalism, and it will discourage publishers to go in that direction.

[@martys_musings]

Llewellyn card stock has improved in comparison to what it was like. My witch sister tarot is amazing as I can easily riffle shuffle it. It really doesn't work well for a lenormand deck though. I mean the cardstock is super thin this time.

[@laurabondurant5096]

I have learned the Philippe Lenormand Original Translation and the Method of Distance Lenormand techniques and I find them to be crazy accurate. I and others use chatter for the birds as well as effort. Birds are busy busy all day singing, dinging, food, making nests that it can be an anology of chatter. Busy busy in the mind. Great video! thanks1😊 Lisa’s book is solid with PLOT, MOD, GOH. Toni was vey informative in Lisa’s learning as well as Bjorn Mueris. I got Cairo’s deck specifically for Toni’s guidebook.

[@janetdanes7945]

I am grateful that you’ve brought this to my attention. I have stopped supporting Kickstarter because of AI decks there, and will not buy AI decks. I always check for the artist when I consider a purchase as I follow artists as well as deck creators and authors. I am very disappointed with Blue Angel snd now Lo Scarabeo. US Games and Rockpool continue to be my favourite publishers.

[@martys_musings]

Thanks for watching Janet. I just hope in time that the rest of the publishing companies don't jump on the AI bandwagon for sales. I rarely back KS decks unless I know of the artist.

[@mythicalwitchery]

I agree with this so much! Thanks for sharing your thoughts. There needs to be more discussion so people can understand just how much we are losing by turning away from real artists and relying on artificially produced images from stolen artwork. As you said, there really is no soul in AI images (I refuse to call AI images "art").

[@carmenb9020]

Hi, i often cannot recognise an AI deck. Maybe someone could identify some decks that are compared to others that arent. If i may ask, are collage decks AI or not necessarily. Id really appreciate some one s feedback on this please. Thanks for bringing up the subject.

[@martys_musings]

No a collage deck isn't AI. Collage art is made using various mediums. Usually used to be by hand.

[@carmenb9020]

Oufff. Good. At least I did good there. Thanks

[@khan7459]

there are AI detectors online Search for something like "image AI or not" You need a screenshot of an image, and as a result you get a probability of the image being create with or without AI.

[@martys_musings]

@@khan7459 it's the fact that mass market companies are blatantly selling AI decks. They are not trying to hide it.

[@khan7459]

@@martys_musings I got that :), just wanted to help Carmen withher not being able to recognise an AI deck

[@user-co3mp7px4m]

I agree to not buy AI decks, but please don’t punish actual artists with not purchasing their decks from these publishers. Blue Angel is putting out a deck by one of my favorite artist this fall. I will buy to support her.

[@martys_musings]

I'm not punishing artists at all. I'm defending genuine artists. AI decks I will NEVER defend. Maybe you should rewatch the video. I have friends who are artists who are deeply affected by mass market publishers making AI decks.

[@user-co3mp7px4m]

@@martys_musings I’m sorry. I didn’t mean to imply you were wrong. Just imploring others to really stop and think about their purchases before jumping in. Not to wholesale stop buying from a publisher, but to make sure they only support real artists.

[@martys_musings]

@@user-co3mp7px4m it's totally cool honestly 🩷

[@janetdanes7945]

What is the name of the AI generated deck you left the review for please? Is it Under the Oak Tree? I only see an author listed for this deck and no artist. Also, the artstyle looks AI.

[@carmenb9020]

I'd like to know as well, for I have no clue what deck is being talked about. But moreso about " that " creator. Tx

[@martys_musings]

I haven't reviewed an AI deck. The under the oak tree is not AI. If you look on Instagram at lo Scarabeos page. You will see a new oracle deck that is AI. You will also find many more on Etsy, Kickstarter and Instagram. I haven't given any names of anyone as I have never reviewed, or never will review any AI decks.