Load outs | Tool vs Toy

[@bondv7]

As Paul Harrell said, "Old does not mean obsolete, and obsolete does not mean ineffective

[@EasyGoing69420]

god rest his soul

[@raygunner4970]

@@EasyGoing69420 Amen. I cried when I found out. He was awesome

[@vitalityfox]

I’d rather have the best tool in the kit rather than have something that is inferior. No matter what anybody says a kimber 1911 is inferior to a Glock 34 with 20 round mags, flashlight, silencer, and reflex sight.

[@ethoman04]

@@vitalityfox You with a TaCtiCoOled out Glock vs Paul Harrel in his prime with a Kimber, I doubt you'd win that fight. It's not about the weapon, it's about the user buddy

[@femboimilkies]

@@vitalityfox range time and drills > muh $2400 reddit pistol. buy ammo and use it instead of buying shit that youtube sold you.

[@7ylerD]

Dude asks for a gun, and gets a friggin’ USP?! Man didn’t know how good he had it… glad he got Luger’d.

[@An2oine]

I thought he was going to give him a Lorcin.

[@Malibus_Most_Wanted]

Right I find funny with all these guys with rmrs n there in shtf scenerio where batteries are scarce n can’t shoot with irons lol. Side note love my usp

[@Man_Emperor_of_Mankind]

​@Malibus_Most_Wanted I agree that it's important to be able to use irons, but a battery can last better than 3yrs in a RMR. 3yrs down the road if batteries are still not available you'll have bigger worries than an optic battery failing

[@christhemonkey7867]

The FAL, G3, AK, they all were used by military’s across the globe so much in fact you can buy surplus parts for said rifles.

[@moistjohn]

In the case of the g3s, type 2 aks, and first run akms, still used by a ton of militaries in 3rd world countries because AKs will run till they rust out, and the g3s will still be running after they rust out.

[@aladoc6832]

​@@moistjohn absolutly 100% fact.

[@therealgoogas8700]

It’s more about what’s the most common thing you can find in a shtf scenario imo I agree I’d probably rather have something other than a AR as my rifle but it’s still the number one rifle in the US

[@christhemonkey7867]

@@therealgoogas8700AR is the best option because of the popularity but I’m not going to put someone down for going with another platform. Especially if a person can’t have access to an AR or any “assault weapons”

[@dodgedaytona7435]

G3 vs AR , the m4s in the army usually would have problems with gas tube to gas block. It's easier to carry extra g3 roller cams than an extra ar upper, plus you don't have to re zero the rifle after.

[@stopmotiongarage220]

One of the things that cracks me up when people talk about this, is that they seem to things you will have constant or near constant fighting. If it's the apocalypse you should be using fighting as a last resort to preserve supplies and minimize risk, not plan your kit like your going into a modern conflict that's going through constant fighting. Maintaining and training with your equipment is more important than having the fanciest equipment. Find what works for you and go with it.

[@VintageWarfare]

The best fights are the ones you avoid.

[@filmandfirearms]

@@VintageWarfare And if you do have to fight, your first priority should be ending said fight ASAP, preferably by getting the fuck out of there

[@this_is_petro1700]

They never tend to include food, water, sleeping kit, shit like that. It's always bullets and nothing else.

[@peternorth1721]

Yeah in reality though if you live in the suburbs your neighborhood will look like black hawk down. Try avoiding being targeted for your race and income when dozens or even hundreds are swarming your neighborhoods and homes. No amount of theoretically downplaying how much fighting youll need to do will prepare you for running OR fighting in that situation If you live somewhere safe enough that you wont need to protect your children with every ounce if tenacity you can muster then your advice isn’t applicable to the majority of working people. P.S. when i said “black hawk down” i do mean swarmed by hordes of “minorities”

[@moistjohn]

Their gun and plate carrier is more important to them than their boots and ruck

[@ryth-2401]

Any gun that's modern enough, reliable and accurate enough, ammo readily available and you're good at using it can be used as a tool

[@rodeanalfanteforcadela7645]

This tbh

[@bethyviz]

Exactly!!! All of it is pointless if you don’t know how to run it. Know your weapon well and you’re ahead of the apocalypse game already 🤣

[@SerfinBird]

My brother in Christ you have forgotten highpoint exists and must be gate kept

[@peternorth1721]

Agreed! Just the gun and a mag is a weapon! Until you run out of that one magazine or need to set it down. So you need at least a sling and some load bearing equipment to feed the weapon if youre going to be using it for second amendment purposes

[@brettscott3759]

I like how everything has to be modern.... nothing modern has won a war.... we haven't won a war since the 1911/m1 days 😕 there is a reason for it...

[@CutlassOutdoors]

I think a lot of people grossly overestimate their post-apocalyptic shelf life.

[@tankfighter2767]

To be fair, most people myself included would die from infection long before their gun breaks, because everyone is worried about ammo, when antibiotics are waaaaaay more important in a shtf situation

[@vitalityfox]

@@tankfighter2767you can die from not having enough vitamins in your diet. The trick to survival is homesteading. Have every conceivable resource you would ever need food water power and all the tools you would ever need.

[@93rwolf]

​@@vitalityfoxHomesteading will only work several months/years after the initial collapse. The easiest way to make long-term survival achievable is through a functioning and capable community. We need numbers more than any other resource.

[@DigitalApex]

Anyone who lives within an hour of a city, you're dead in the first 72 hours. Especially if you don't have a plot of land with a garden, serious medical supplies, or shelf-stable food. Sorry, I don't make the rules. Just like the Oregon trail, died of dysentery.

[@CutlassOutdoors]

@@DigitalApex 72 hours is a bit dramatic. Within 90 days, maybe. Even dysentery takes time.

[@alpine7313]

Imagine telling old SOF guys that killed more people than smallpox with a CAR-15 and a duct tape flashlight that their gun is a range toy because it doesn't have a PEQ-15 on it.

[@NyxtoX6]

Fr 🤣

[@Artha96]

Imagine being so scared of anything other than an AR-15 that you have to make up elaborate fantasies to shit on them simply because you're no good at using them.

[@John-uy4jx]

There is always a possibility of your weapon jamming, a part breaking or worse yet your gun getting hit with a bullet. Learning how to operate different kinds of weapon systems will beneficial. A lot of guys know how to use glocks but what if you lose it and have to use a revolver in .357 magnum. Broaden your knowledge and skills

[@graysonhartfield4191]

This. Pays off to be well rounded

[@RaiderCat12]

I’m Italian and shall never tolerate their ARX slander

[@deebo3483]

As the owner of a USP .40 Compact being my first pistol, I would 100% grab this thing for the end of the world. You could beat somebody to death with the brick of metal referred to as a “Slide Assembly”.

[@iCookCrystalMeth]

good choice. .40 is fun

[@aladoc6832]

Yeah, almost as heavy as a Hi Point. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@anthonyn1157]

“You got capped by a pistol that’s a hundred years old” 🤣

[@bintjbeil7892]

God in heaven be like:

[@aladoc6832]

@anthonyn1157, still love that Yeah, you got capped by a 100 yr old gun, when he gave you a d**ned H&K USP?!? Yeah commuppance served.

[@nil981]

Over a hundred now.

[@johnelliott7375]

Their are more AKM in the US than most people think, old timers usually have both due to the way the world was. Great stuff as always.

[@chroma6947]

Sks more likely

[@johnelliott7375]

@@chroma6947 depending on the person both

[@Eye_Of_Odin978]

@Paul Martin If we take into account for rifle variants, then yes, the AK is the most-used rifle in the world. It is actually pretty close, though, between the AR platform series (AR15, AR18, Etc) and the AK platform series (AK Type-1, AK Type-2, AKM, Etc) The AK series wins in the end though, mostly through resales in Africa and the Middle East.

[@redtra236]

There's also a bunch of Mini-14s

[@MrChickennugget360]

way more ARs in the US regardless.

[@seandohe9979]

Meanwhile there's some old guy who's absolutely cracked with his "toy" M16A1 that he had back in Vietnam.

[@ivankalash2696]

My neighbor lol (he wasnt a vietnam veteran, but he fought during the early 90s in the gulf war)

[@justinw1198]

@@ivankalash2696still cracked, but he had an A2 instead of the A1, arguably even better lmao

[@daniellong1525]

​@@justinw1198what does cracked mean?

[@peefrimgaar5095]

@@daniellong1525 Cracked is sorta shorthand for crackshot in this use but in other contexts it means really fucking good at whatever their doing.

[@justinw1198]

@@daniellong1525 it’s slang for performing really well. Like a gamer going on a kill streak in cod or “locking in”, he’s cracked.

[@Purple_Wayne]

Most of the doomsday guys have delusions of grandeur. They think they'll just be in the woods with full kit, nods, and ready to fight 24/7. It's a fantasy.

[@Subtlenimbus]

Yup. In a true doomsday scenario they will have traded everything for food within a week.

[@mynameisjeff6988]

And they will be better off than the guy who has none of those things because he bought 20 guns that sit in the safe instead of sustainment supplies. People use that argument all the time, but the person with the full kit and nods is 100 times more likely to have a plan and supplies at home than the dude who cant stop himself from buying used firearms at the pawn shop every paycheck. Being poor is a mindset only.

[@bower31]

@@mynameisjeff6988 Cope harder

[@rayfeltz8477]

Nods out of batteries in a week cause they never stocked up.

[@femboimilkies]

they talk like people that have never gone hungry. having gone through my own personal doomsday a good few times, i think id like food instead of a reddit gold rifle.

[@themeltingpoint3867]

He's literally the guy everyone mentions "Attachments doesn't buy you skill". I've seen countless people with red dots that still shoot like crap.

[@slydoorkeeper4783]

Late, but its sad because of how much easier a dot can make things. That said, I still have guns that I intend to keep as iron only, both because I like how irons look and as an always "just in case".

[@adamparris8353]

I really hate it when someone thinks that their opinions/standards are universal, and that everyone is obligated to abide by them.

[@shanegrimmett7]

No kidding. It's lame. They are boring

[@godlikemachine645]

having a weapon mounted light on your hdg should be a universal standard, and if it's not on your "must have" list, you're making a big mistake.

[@rolandluth2098]

Word

[@mynameisjeff6988]

@@godlikemachine645Exactly. Optics and lights in modern warfare are not up for debate. Half of the day is night, most of your enemies will have both. You are purposely cucking yourself if you do not have either of those on your rifle. On your sidearm, i can kind of understand, but even then, you’re still holding onto a slower sighting system because you cant be bothered to train with it.

[@uppishcub1617]

​@@godlikemachine645Maybe your house is dark enough to need one, but I really don't need a flashlight to see in my house at night. Its not like I need it for sighting either, since there's not a room here that's longer than point shooting distance.

[@winged_destro]

Me, with a well maintained mosin nagant from 1938, 20 stripper clips, and a military surplus cleaning kit: *chuckles nervously*

[@aladoc6832]

Don't worry, have a couple, they aee still fairly easy to find parts for, and everyone needs to learn to flipping reload.

[@AdamantLightLP]

Need to get a semi-auto tbh. The difference in capability is HUGE.

[@winged_destro]

@@AdamantLightLP I have one now 😉

[@uppishcub1617]

Well, you're better equipped than most of the Russian army.

[@tyler1768]

That's good all you need train and work on cardio and tactics 75 percent of your enemy will become loot drops 😂

[@ThatMDubyaGuy]

Some years ago a quiet little man had an opinion and I will put it at the end of my comment. Personally, having carried firearms for work for years, countless hours training and instructing, and having worked as a full time gunsmith, it comes down to this: Have a gun. Have a gun that you like and train with and can operate in hard times. Everything breaks eventually, have a spare, even if it’s different. Good enough. The gent I mentioned earlier was one of the premier handgun instructors in the world. He carried a 1911 and a Charter Arms .44 Bulldog as his backup, and eventually went to a custom double stack 1911/.45 and a Glock 19 as his backup. He grew up, worked and served in places and conditions that most can’t imagine. His comment? When it’s all over, there’s going to be one guy standing there with a bolt[action] Mauser on top of a hill, with no armor plating on, in short pants and tennis shoes with a hundred year old 1898 Mauser. He’s going to the last man standing. It’s as simple as that. (Louis Awerbuck 1948-2014)

[@Jebotito]

@Dan Pizzi Firearms Instructor every D&D enthusiast got your point ☝️

[@tenchraven]

Beware an old man with one rifle- he probably knows how to use it.

[@patrickbateman312]

​@@tenchraventhat old man with a mauser shoots with minute of deer accuracy using a bench rest and without being shot at. I'm not terribly concerned.

[@spehhhsssmarineer8961]

@@tenchraven Old man with one rifle versus the tannerite IED I made in my garage.

[@shidandfard9976]

well he sure wont be that guy huh

[@bookerdewitt4811]

The money that's spent on Gucci accessories is better spent for the average person on ammunition for training and figuring out what runs good in your gun.

[@AMC_JPS]

Great video btw! Love your content! This all goes back too, “some gun is better than no gun”. If all you’ve got is an M1 Carbine and a Colt M1917, but you have replacement parts, thousands of rounds, and you know how to use all that well. I believe your way better off than someone who has a $4,000 AR with kit, that they only shoot when the rooster crows at midnight.

[@robertdevito5001]

Apparently your red dot sights lenses and the batteries will survive longer than the rest of your gun, the more you know. Forget the iron sights, they don't have lenses or batteries which means they'll break, just like everything on your rifle that isn't the red dot. Lol

[@isaac6077]

And the red dot guns have backup irons

[@robertwilson8184]

If you ever get into a home defense shooting and I hear you say "you just got capped by a pistol that's 100 years old" on your ring doorbell, then I will consider the prophesy as complete.

[@azimuthreinhall9996]

"Noooo you can't use a 30-60 year old gun for your shtf loadout!!!!" "Haha G3 clone go pop pop pop"

[@randomizerteleviewage307]

Them also not realizing the G3 only predates the AR by about two years lmao

[@ravioli_826]

Wants gun to be functional tool Puts a bunch of heavy shit on it Pick one bro

[@undefinedowo]

A funtional tool can have heavy shit on it, it wouldnt be functional if it couldnt

[@hfdcjiirjmcfi]

Cries in HK91/G3 It's heavy without anything on it, add 20 rounds of .308 and the hensoldt scope and it's pretty tough holding up after a while

[@sevenshooter2987]

Dyel twink can't lift heavy things

[@paullllehtx]

​@@undefinedowoTell me you're the guy that puts all that extra crap on your guns without telling me. Btw, the downside of that is, you may become an expert with your certain load out, but God forbid you're in a situation where you have to use a stock firearm of any kind and now you can't hit the broad side of a barn...

[@nilssjoberg2522]

​@@paullllehtx a grip, optic and flashlight are all pretty standard attachments and they can be quite heavy combined (especially with larger optics)

[@kirillslavitonov9486]

Historical community is currently very disgusted at that headgear.

[@danieldavidson2644]

Do people really expect to survive long enough to need spare parts for a well built boutique gun? Sheesh

[@austinhuber3131]

The gun community needs to shut up about "obsolescence." There are so many old guns that can still fulfill any function you'd want. Having said that, there's a huge difference between what you should buy with your limited, hard earned dollars, and what you can make do with. I'd never recommend someone buy an FAL for their first gun, but if they already had one, why not make it work for you?

[@matthewjones39]

Exactly. I don’t care if I got shot from a modern tacticool AR15 or a mosin from 1899. I’m dead either way.

[@matchwojo7280]

Because the mags for it are dookie unfortunately.

[@austinhuber3131]

@@matchwojo7280 lol fair enough

[@Yapperinos]

To a degree I think it's healthy to discourage noobs from tunnel vision-ing on their favorite weapon from CoD. Please bros, don't become a meme. If you do, don't complain about how much extra you're paying for mags, gear and ammo

[@austinhuber3131]

@@Yapperinos Fair enough, but like I said in my original comment, there's a difference between a gun you already have and a gun you're going to buy. I wouldn't recommend anyone buy a 38 snub nose for self defense, but if you already had one and you had a limited income, why not put it to use? But if someone on the internet is telling you it's obsolete when it's not, it can put some trusting, well meaning people in a bad position.

[@herrsiemes7094]

Toy vs Tool huh? -How many people were capped with stock Glock 17s? -How many people were capped by Glocks with at least 2 aftermarket modifications? -- Case Closed Tasker 🤣

[@mynameisjeff6988]

Way more people are killed with non stock glocks. I dont think you can find a police shooting or gang shooting today with a glock that has nothing done to it

[@SlavicCelery]

How many people were capped with a Hi-Point?

[@herrsiemes7094]

@@SlavicCelery very few considering the Fiends wielding hi-points rarely hit anything 💀

[@SlavicCelery]

@@herrsiemes7094 You have to consider their cost and availability. It really is the most consistent crime in firearms.

[@connorperrett9559]

@@SlavicCelery You can find free Hi-Points all over the place in major urban American rivers.

[@LesperenceVirkov]

When I first got into guns my first lesson was ; Gun is Gun, doesn't matter if you got a Mosin with irons or a DDM4 With full kit, if a bullet hits you it's gonna fucking hurt, and probably kill you. They're all tools and if you have the willpower and knowledge everything can be modular.

[@AdamantLightLP]

Semi-auto is leagues above bolt-action though. It’s not even a contest.

[@SigmaNamedLily]

never doubt the Baker Rifle, your modularity can’t save you from the 15.6mm lead ball

[@alpine7313]

Now that's soldiering

[@chinchin3274]

Just as the founding fathers intended.

[@JonathanShidler]

​@@chinchin3274 grape-shot and car alarm down the block has entered the chat.

[@tyvandm]

The other big thing that people need to remember is: if your plan is to bug out, you're going to die. Either from fighting people or (most likely) from exposure/starvation. The whole fantasy of questing through a dystopian future is just that, fantasy. Your best bet for survival, is to have a home base with supplies and the ability to regenerate supplies. In which case, you can have whichever gun you want and whatever spare parts you want. If you don't believe me, go backpacking for 1 week. No stopping for resupplying. Not setting up camp and staying put for days and then walking back. Hike through for just 1 week, and then tell me you plan on "living off the land" and being constantly on the move. Also, a lot of those "old and obsolete" guns don't need spare parts because they were built to just keep going and going and going.

[@docternoblex]

Here’s what I find: if it works for you, it works. Interchangeability doesn’t matter if you can get enough ammo, bring some ammo for your buddy if they use a niche caliber

[@Jebotito]

We all know, regarding firearms you need to look cool. If you don't look cool or don't have a vibe, your weapons are basically useless. Thus we all need a tigerstriped Ar10 with irons with a kriss vector CBR as a backup lol

[@bethyviz]

I mean it only makes sense. 🤣🤣🤣

[@allighast9714]

How many times do I need to headshot the steel target to unlock the blue tiger camo?

[@Jebotito]

@@allighast9714 75 if my memory serves me right. Talking about mw2 the original one

[@HansShackleford]

I could probably outshoot most gun enthusiasts with my 50 cal muzzle loader, definitely if its just a 50gr charge

[@tubeguy4066]

And 3 knuckle draggers with ARs will outshoot u

[@aregularinternetuser339]

I own a .50 caliber muzzle loader for home defense because that's what the founding fathers intended

[@AdamantLightLP]

Hahaha, no way dude. You’ll get 1 shot down range before the slowest AR has already mag-dumped 30 rounds

[@georgewhitworth9742]

@@AdamantLightLPwhooossh

[@rodeanalfanteforcadela7645]

If you're left with a "range toy", work with what you have.

[@sputnik128]

The winner of any discussion when it comes to long term firearm usage is determined by who maintains their gun properly. A clean and oiled AR will last for many many years. A rusty AK will not. This isn't a video game scenario - you're not going to run through 1000 rounds a day hunting down bandits and dry humping their corpses for loot. You'll theoretically (in minecraft) be carrying enough firepower to get yourself out of a situation you don't want to be in. In any situation where a prolonged firefight is expected and cannot be avoided, then pretty much everyone is screwed because it's going to come down to resources more than anything else. Does someone have an explosive? Does someone have penetrating weaponry? Does someone have a flanking advantage? Then that side is going to win. Honestly I'm not sure what SHTF scenarios these folks are inventing in their heads. Well, I do, but I don't think they're realistic at all. TL;DR just get a USP and an AR with a chrome-lined barrel and stop worrying.

[@jeffjefferson2853]

I got friends who make these crazy bug out loadouts thinking that the second society falls, they're gonna be some wandering badass nomad who lives in the woods, and somehow lug around a kit that includes 2 ar15s, a shotgun, a pistol, 30 full magazine of 556, 15 extended magazines of 9mm, a box of buckshot, a box of birdshot, a box of slugs, body armor, helmet, a machete, buckknife, kukri, a tent, food, water and spare clothes. If you're going that far you might as well bug in than bug out. I think it's important to have all that stuff, yeah, but I have it so I can hold down the fort and defend the family, not go on some made up video game adventure

[@pnastysavage5510]

Correct !

[@Blin240]

AR be gar. Ak better

[@homerpimpson7169]

A rusty ak most certainly will hold up. Just ask a Somali pirate

[@slydoorkeeper4783]

​@@jeffjefferson2853Yeah, having all that is good just in case, but man do I find it hilarious the number of people who say they'll run out to the wilderness. Like really, leave behind all the potential resources, and most importantly established shelter, just to "be away from everyone" when also ever else has the same idea as you? I'd rather just make a community in a smaller town and avoid the cities. Hit up suburbs for some extra supplies if needed.

[@LordGihrenZabi]

The RDB being listed as more practical then AK/FAL/G3 etc is what really makes this list for me.

[@mynameisjeff6988]

As they sit, they definitely are. They’re railed, take cheap mags, cheap parts supply that is currently being made still. Better suppressor hosts, the list goes on. Hate to say it, but getting an Aug/AK/Fal to be as capable as an AR or even an RDB costs a bit of money, and it will still never quite be there

[@LordGihrenZabi]

@@mynameisjeff6988 I’ve always heard they weren’t particularly reliable, and the way it’s designed can cause issues clearing malfunctions. I don’t own one to confirm, but if true, I feel like it’s too big an issue and would overshadow its advantages. Vs an AR though, no contest, I wouldn’t even try to make an argument.

[@jeremycorbin2178]

Gun isn't an AR-15 = fancy niche toy that's awesome

[@Gookykabookis-SpookakeBookake]

No gun is a toy. They are all tools. Every gun you have can serve a purpose. If you're a true gamer (and not a boomer) you will carry an HK SL8 and a taurus Judge. This is what chads carry.

[@Front-Toward-Enemy]

No, they can be toys too.

[@Devin7Eleven]

Difference between tool and toy is intended purpose.

[@d.i.m.eproductions6925]

Guy thinks he needs a $300 hammer to make a dog house

[@mynameisjeff6988]

@@d.i.m.eproductions6925No, you can build a doghouse with a plastic hammer. A toy can do some things, but not much. A 300 dollar hammer can build you a house. That’s the difference. If your goal is to only build doghouses, buy the toy. If you ever believe there is a chance that one day there might be a bigger job, you buy the best hammer you can afford.

[@d.i.m.eproductions6925]

@@mynameisjeff6988 lmao, that’s why I buy HK and LWRC

[@VintageWarfare]

Thanks for watching(:

[@crayoneatingclone8692]

Thank you for the good content

[@Jebotito]

I need your helmet 🪖

[@schrodingersgat4344]

Great video.

[@crayoneatingclone8692]

@@schrodingersgat4344 what video isn’t

[@schrodingersgat4344]

@@crayoneatingclone8692Mine all suck. I enjoy making them, though. That's what matters.

[@schrodingersgat4344]

Me: Do it go "BANG!" when I tell it to? Elitist: Well, yes. But... Then; it's good enough.

[@aregularinternetuser339]

Idk man, call me an elitist but in my opinion a gun has to: Go bang when I want it to, not go bang when I don't want it to go bang, and preferably have some kind of mechanism to ensure that when I make it go "bang" it bangs the correct object or organism

[@schrodingersgat4344]

@@aregularinternetuser339 Kinda a "no shit" situation, right? If they bothered to make it function, it would (likely) have sights and safety device* of some sort. You are the primary "safety". Being self aware is better than being self involved. That weapon is a part of your person when on your hip; and part and parcel with your mind, body and soul when in your hand. Any, inattention is an invitation to disaster. Any negligence is a potential sentence on your head. Remember: Nobody likes a Smart Alec. * To include {although, not limited to} manual or automatic safeties... ..internal and/or external.

[@matthewjones39]

@@schrodingersgat4344Dude he was just making a joke

[@schrodingersgat4344]

@@matthewjones39 Really? Didn't read like one.

[@theenditedranger7556]

I feel like its more important to understand your own rifles maintenance then obsess over parts interchangeability.

[@thegarsh2705]

I like to think they trained Tasker wrong on purpose as a joke.

[@VintageWarfare]

OOOOWWEEEEEOOOOWEEEEOOOOO

[@Front-Toward-Enemy]

You don’t have to worry about finding spare parts in the field if you already have spare parts for the firearm. I know it might be a shocker for the AR guys but the AR-15 isn’t the only firearm you can buy spare parts for. Thanks to companies like Apexgunparts and Numrich, you can buy almost any part for any firearm made in the past 100 years.

[@MrBnb13]

I deer hunt with my vector crb in .45acp, definitely niche but damn it’s fun to shoot

[@ianslaby5703]

The whole parts interchangeability argument can be disregarded with one point: if you expect a long term kinetic scenario where your weapon might go down, you should have spare parts for that weapon (not necissarily a spare barrel or receiver, but at least a firing pin and some springs). Don't rely on your friends to do this for you, this is something you can and should prepare for.

[@Front-Toward-Enemy]

Yup just buy the parts for it now. Or just buy 2 of the same rifle. Use 1 and cannibalize parts from the other. With companies like Apexgunparts and Numrich. Its not hard to find spare parts for any rifle adopted by a military in the past 100 years.

[@lakerat9785]

Someone ( @vintagewarfare ) needs to add sunscreen to their EDC

[@VintageWarfare]

😂😂😂

[@JeffandBCProductions]

"The best firearm to use is the one you own." Had to pass a like to the video - don't normally do so, but this provided some great insight for me. The original author clearly has a deep love for the AR-15 platform. There is nothing wrong with this, but he is operating under the assumption that all of his buddies will have spare parts (as you've mentioned). I hate to also be the bearer of bad news, but this dude's also operating under the assumption that he is going to live long enough to outlast his rifle. And, in that case, get another one. If there's active combat going on around you, I'm sure you can find a replacement/replacement parts. It's not like there isn't an abundance of these things around us. Fight with what you have. Garand Thumb proved that you can be combat effective with a Ruger 10/22. If that's what you have - use it. If you have an expensive battle rifle in .308, use it. I would rather have a plethora of firearms with different purposes that I'm proficient with than one "perfect" firearm that I have every kind of replacement for.

[@peternorth1721]

You gonna carry all those firearms with you? Lol the point is to have a rifle that you can do the most with because you cant carry a plethora of long guns for every situation. Also. If you have friends who all shoot together and train together on a regular basis you havent synced up gear yet / got everyone on the same page, you are actually a little behind on the culture.

[@VintageWarfare]

@@peternorth1721 your friend spends thousands on kit because you want to sync up? That’s not being behind. Your friend should run what he wants lol But also yeah, your only going to utilize one long gun at a time. So also true

[@CaesarGB]

I want to know where Garand Thumb used a Ruger 10/22. Sounds like a fun video to watch!

[@JeffandBCProductions]

@@CaesarGB It's the video titled "22 vs human head"

[@N00btube296]

There are AUG variants that use STANAG magazines too

[@VintageWarfare]

The A3

[@tubeguy4066]

And they aren't reliable

[@John--Silver]

@@tubeguy4066 How so? They work fine.

[@Devin7Eleven]

@@tubeguy4066They’re very reliable. The Aug is one of the most practical bullpups on the market.

[@skinwalkerhiddenvalleyranch]

Get the waffle pattern, buy $15 aus pattern pmags and don't worry about stanag normies

[@DanteRiley]

Tasker Network out here trying to turn people into loot drops.

[@Thomk121]

Thank God for the Bruen case! I live in Maryland and it was ridiculous before. I just started getting into guns. My first purchases are all tools. 9mm pistol, .223 AR, 12 gauge pump shotgun. Now it's time to start looking into toys.

[@f1r3hunt3rz5]

Use something old school that is functional. You know it is reliable when it has lasted that long.

[@Bowfella]

Amazing the thought process behind this "Toy/tool" shit. It's a toy unless I put a bunch of fancy shit on it that could be a possible failure point or is redundant.

[@Matthew-zx8cs]

I didn’t think I’ve ever handled a gun with an easier take down than the vector. The things that’s gonna knee cap me the hardest is that it’s chambered in 10mm

[@Eye_Of_Odin978]

Dang, there ain't no 9×19 Vectors? Damn, that's rough.

[@aladoc6832]

Reload, learn to reload.

[@aladoc6832]

10mm is an awesome caliber, and when compared to 45acp, you can look at both, both are huge rounds, but a 10mm will travel through a full 16 inch ballistic gel block and leaves quite a wound cavity.

[@tehmediasource]

Its weird that this came up in my feed now, because tasker just went on a rant about people “not understanding” yesterday 😂😂

[@themeltingpoint3867]

So what he's saying is my stock G19 I use for conceal carry is a toy and not a viable tool for self defense?

[@Jebotito]

Exactly so grow up and get yourself a FN FNX Tactical with 2 olights - just for redundancy - one mini Reddot and another reddot canted at 40° - just for redundancy - and don't forget the 50 round extended mags!

[@DrSpas]

That 90s usp will outlive anything else

[@muknav8051]

AK as a novelty gun is top tier rage bait

[@spickey5378]

“When your batteries die, and your bullets run out, war comes down to one thing, man kills man”

[@socwyvern9745]

Yeah I’m gonna stick with my M16A2 clone. it works. it’s cheap. I’m broke. It’s simple. I’ll train.

[@adolphsfather4834]

Its also a vibe

[@Eye_Of_Odin978]

It's a big mood, too. The Mekong Delta kind lmao (Inb4 people hit me with the "aCkShUaLly tHe M16 iN NaM was ThE A1!" even though it's a joke)

[@georgewhitworth9742]

@@Eye_Of_Odin978Pfft, everyone knows the M16A2 was ACTHUALLY in WWII.

[@Mortablunt]

I got an A1 clone. Cheap, fixed irons in the handle, solid stock, takes a sling, goes bang on command. It’s my work rifle.

[@matthewjones39]

I wish I had an A2 clone lol

[@Mortablunt]

The older I get, and the more work I do, the more content I become to let people cook with their specific weapon choices. There’s no shortage of people out there with weapon choices I’d never ever make but unless they’ve picked truly terrible, unseeded tools, odds are they’ve got some good logic running through it, and a certain amount of personal experience for why they made those choices. Yes, I did used to be ultra opinionated about weapon choices and what made a good practical guy and what didn’t it was a toy or what wasn’t and what features you just had to get or you shouldn’t have. Then I went from being a teenage forum poster to working with weapons professionally in real life, and at first, I actually got a lot of confirmation of my dogma, but then overtime as I got to know, diverse and older professionals, working more environments and tried out more guns, I adopted a much broader perspective on things, and came to appreciate a wider array of approaches and equipment than I had earlier. I honestly find approaches like you could teach her to be endearing. How do you say someone cute that somebody takes such an avid interest to logically plan out, and then propose, optimal choices. I hope he brings that zeal to whatever training or work he ends up undertaking with his arms.

[@Sundayafternoonbp]

Everyone is gangster until i pull out that flintlock

[@samuellemly7886]

His novelty list was ridiculous considering Trex JUST did an entire video on how useful full-size cartridges are in a fighting rifle/fire team. Disregarding the G3/PTR91/SCAR17 in one fell swoop doesn’t really acknowledge their place in a team. I don’t agree with Lucas all the time but he raised some really good points in his video. You’re more likely to find 3 guys who own a SCAR 17s than 3 guys who all own AR10s that are all tooled the same, and I’d much rather carry a SCAR barrel around than an AR10 upper. edit: the best weapon is the one you train with

[@tubeguy4066]

Considering that AR10s have some interchangeable parts with AR15s aka the most widely used combat rifle in the US, I will go with the AR10

[@Sujamma_Enjoyer]

⁠@@tubeguy4066Whatever SHTF situation you’re imagining happening is complete hyperbole if you’re planning this deeply surely you have the prefabricated bunker and proper NBC equipment as well lol?

[@Mortablunt]

There’s a big caveat to that which is, there’s the issue of reduced rate of fire and carrying capacity when you go up to the bigger cartridges.

[@Shitbox_connoisseur]

​@@tubeguy4066dog there's like 4 "standard" patterns for the ar10 and like 6 more proprietary patterns, you're talking about small parts interchangeability and that's I think dpms? Or was it lr308? Not only that but most ar10 uppers use proprietary bcg parts too.

[@fireteammichael1777]

One's firearms will most likely VASTLY outlast them in said type of scenario.. nevermind fact that even in said situation, near constant gun-fighting would likely be last of one's worries.. Any quality firearm with enough ammo/ammo availability should suffice for 90-99%+ of people.

[@chosedfolk1561]

Using this logic would mean that the Ukrainians using maxims are fighting a literal war with range toys

[@SuperBossGiovanni]

Did this dude really just call the AK a "novelty gun" because it somehow doesnt have readily available parts??? My dude acts like the AK is not one of the most popular rifles in the world.

[@DigitalApex]

Let's be real, most people in a SHTF scenario will get taken out by wound infection, dysentery, or dehydration before a bullet.

[@AK-47ISTHEWAY]

Or cannibals. Be fearful of the cannibals...

[@AnsaLupina]

I’ve had people laugh at me when they find out that my EDC pistol is a Keltec PMR30, but it’s exactly like you said. I can shoot it accurately, and it’s something that I’m very comfortable with. I guess if there’s anything I really have to say about practicality regarding this firearm, there aren’t very many handguns out there that give you 31 chances to hit with one in the hole. The whole reason I was swayed in the direction of this gun is mag capacity and how common 22WMR is as a round. Anyway, love your content. Keep it up!

[@normalhumanperson4149]

The point on ergonomics and personal preference is very underrated imo. Everyone's different in a variety of ways, sometimes a "range toy" simply suits someone's body better than a larp operator tacticool "tool". If it's a gun you're genuinely going to rely your survival on as well as the survival of those close to you, you've got to be able to use it like an extension of yourself, not like it's a clumsy lump of lead that you can barely wrap your head around

[@ajose223w3]

Let’s be honest if my gun had some sort of catastrophic failure I’m probably dead at that point anyways

[@dingleberry2281]

Really, the Ak is a novelty gun? The second most popular rifle in America? That’s all the proof I need to not trust that post lmao

[@tubeguy4066]

It is. Show me a US police force that uses it

[@Sujamma_Enjoyer]

@@tubeguy4066Right.. because government issued equipment is the best thing there is

[@georgewhitworth9742]

@@tubeguy4066Oh my goodness.... A novelty is something like a .470 Nitro Express double rifle. It is NOT, I repeat, NOT, the SECOND MOST POPULAR RIFLE PLATFORM IN THE U.S.

[@Milsurp_Loot_Drop]

@@tubeguy4066 I remember reading about police in Alaska using AKs but its just one department :P

[@pelinalwhitestrake8195]

​@@tubeguy4066 the Kodiak Police Department in Alaska does dumbass

[@WLS_Churchill]

Tasker looking at my kit : "That M14 with his aluminum chassis and that 92fs aren't made for this..."

[@millennialsecularandauthri3338]

Good point on the AUG, they are becoming more and more popular especially with the 300 barrel coming out.

[@evangraham]

I have been thinking this for years, what i feel is most important in terms of interchangeablity is ammo, than mags, (imo interchangeable mags for handguns is not as important as the rifles) batteries, and than finally parts Additionally, a handgun without a optic isn't horrendously outdated (yet, give it a few years) when you consider the VAST majority of handguns lack a optics cut, now if almost every handgun from Hipoint to HK had a optic cut/mount than it would be a different

[@evangraham]

No, i don't think i will

[@PAMPEP411]

For enthusiasts like the guy who made that chart, it’s all about their ability to replace parts that they break, while service members 80 or 40 years ago, have spent years in apocalyptic like war zones, maintaining their single rifle and handgun, many of which maintained those firearms after the wars and all the way up to today. Basing your main firearm set ups and choices on what you can replace when you break them, forgoes the adherence to methodical upkeep of their firearms. It’s just assumed they will break them at some point, which I find absurd.

[@isaac6077]

Yep. Ive always been the guy driving cars past 250.000 miles… they still work just fine and barely need basic repairs i could do in my garage….. i think these people arent bery mechinaclly inclined

[@AdamantLightLP]

Armies have armories for a reason. All of those old guns that have actually gone through war zones have replaced parts.

[@remcodenouden5019]

I'm in the Dutch army, we still use gen3 (maybe 4?) G17s without threaded barrels, night sights, lights or whatever. For pistols, this really doesn't matter too much because if you're using it in anything bigger than a phone booth, someone has gone terribly wrong.

[@mattwalters6834]

Everybody has their own thing. Only a Sith deals in absolutes!

[@LatestHour]

Really good point about what you actually pack in your ruck. The only spare part my fire team had was a SAW barrel.

[@greybeard277]

So my pistol is a toy from the factory, but if I put a light and dot on it that makes it a tool? Does that racing stripe make your car go faster?

[@RedX-sx6ml]

Everyone gets so hung up on replacement part availability and modularity they forget to stop and ask, "Will I live long enough to need all this?" IF you would be in a post-apocalyptic scenario and new to be swapping out worn-out parts. You have lived longer than most everyone and are the thing people whisper about around the fire.

[@Catgat37]

People also always tend to forget that in situations like this, gonna be plenty of other things to pick up along the way. So if you have an understanding of how multiple platforms work, choose whichever one you like training with the most to start out with.

[@Catgat37]

People also always tend to forget that in situations like this, gonna be plenty of other things to pick up along the way. So if you have an understanding of how multiple platforms work, choose whichever one you like training with the most to start out with.

[@dubmeisterxd2133]

Me and my squad of modular warriors realizing we forgot our vice clamp and barrel wrench at home (we cant interchange barrels and are thus useless), and DANG IT! I forgot our spare gas blocks as well!

[@pipertheroastingpepper672]

If you can't fix it yourself you probably don't want it in an apocalypse. Also, the implication that the last thousand wars were fought with 'toys' is all you need to know the idea is ridiculous.

[@AHSValor]

The bit that gets me is that the guy forgets one critical detail when it comes to a catastrophic failure of a weapon - it means you're using it. Crazy, I know. But that implies a firefight may occur, and what do the enemies drop from a firefight? Guns! You can, theoretically, stay somewhat sustainable as long as you don't lose in a full retreat constantly

[@MrAndrew3048]

Brass tacks, no bullshit, does it actually run? Do you have the ammo for it? Have you trained with it? That’s the cutoff. Most of the rest is an upsell.

[@jonnylong7927]

Something i never understood was why people who aren't in the military or law enforcement have cqb guns or dmr guns or spr guns etc and then take offense when they're called LARPers.

[@Towelietowel]

In what SHTF are you going to be able to expend the thousands and thousands of rounds necessary to wear out these guns? In that scenario every cartridge is precious, ammo would probably become the new standard currency.

[@Eye_Of_Odin978]

"Ammo would probably become the new standard currency" Ok, we get it, you played Metro: 2033 one time and think you've got it all figured out on how the world's gonna end

[@CaesarGB]

@@Eye_Of_Odin978 Bait

[@dubmeisterxd2133]

Also, how on earth is an AK not sustainable? Probably one of the best suited for parts interchangeability, as you can trade gas tube, bolt carrier, hand guard, bolt, dust cover, and main spring completely toollessly (yes, a lot of parts kits have bad QC, but most US AKs are built to higher standards). AK is also just super rugged and arguably more physically durable than an AR. Sustainability is probably the best argument FOR owning an AK. People need to stop making assertions on things they know little about.

[@sterkriger2572]

The ak is not more durable than the AR stop with this shit propaganda. Both have their advantages and weaknesses.if you use an AK in mud you’re fucked and if you use an AR in the Arctic you’re fucked as well

[@Front-Toward-Enemy]

Many Ak parts can be interchangeable but its not even close to be being the superior option if parts interchangeability is important to you.

[@mynameisjeff6988]

US made ak’s are known for having much WORSE standards. They’re also not the more robust platform. An AR is more reliable in western conditions.

[@lloydlloyd3236]

I think any self loading semiautomatic rifle that your comfortable shooting with and have ammo and replacement parts for is good enough.

[@Phomex-or8zc]

I really don't understand how people still swear by Glock in this day and age when a SIG, for the same price, offers much more out of the box. And it is also modular.

[@adamlewellen5081]

Just check out iv8888 Glock melt down video and learn why! Glock is the Honda or Toyota of hand guns. Can you get fancer, yes. But it will always run for you

[@MountainxManx]

You talking about the same sig guns that will discharge if you hit the back of them hard enough?

[@Dungrave]

@@MountainxManx you own a Glock dont you Squidward.

[@Phomex-or8zc]

@@MountainxManx Yes, the same gun that if you do the same today, nothing will happen. Stay in your Glock Perfection bubble and you'll keep saying shit like that.

[@Phomex-or8zc]

@@adamlewellen5081 I have, but tell me this: when in your lifetime will you have to use your gun the way they did? Never. Torture tests are supposed to go above and beyond. SIG can withstand abuse just like the Glock. They're both mechanical and will fail eventually if you try hard enough. SIG, on the other hand, provides much better modularity than the Glock, much easier and simpler take down, and much better trigger out of the box. If you wanna make a Glock shoot like or better than the SIG, you'll have to sink a couple more hundred dollars into the gun, where SIGs are almost perfect for the same, if not cheaper, price of a base G17. Only thing I'd say Glock still has the edge on today is magazine and parts availability, which SIG is also bound to overtake since it's new the service pistol.

[@deleteduser3455]

I think shotguns are the most important firearm for shtf because they offer unmatched stopping power

[@Grungebungle]

Saying a cz bren, scar, galil, ak, etc is a boutique range only gun when it’s insanely reliable and well built that there’s very low chance any survival/ combat situation would see its failure before your own demise is hilarious. Most people would die before that 10k round mark shows up between maintenance

[@bluemouse5039]

A person that is in good physical condition able to run for a sustained period of time without getting gassed out, has some survival skills and situational awareness and is a good marksmen armed with a old military surplus bolt action rifle would last a lot longer than some person that only goes to a target range , shoots at paper targets with their expensive AR 15 setup

[@lex_kosmatka846]

I really don't understand the people who think a gun's worth should be based on how modular it is. really, as long as it is something YOU PERSONALLY can use effectively, that's what you're gonna want to go with. For instance, I, prefer my (yugo)AK,with a galil style stock for a cheek weld(instead of a chin weld,) using iron sights, I got a pretty bad astigmatism and can't use most modern optics(that I've tried on other rifles at least) and can still get 10 inch targets at 200 yards reliably. As for a pistol, I got a dinky lil keltec p-32, that works just fine for me, it's small enough to fit in my back pocket without being noticable, and I can reliably hit ~4 inch targets at 20 yards or so

[@mojoismydog77]

Try Prism Sights they work really nicely with astigmatism.

[@toastycarpet9873]

If you can make holes and fix em your perfectly set up for SHTF

[@tonyd.7088]

What are these apocalyptic scenarios? The world's going to collapse, AND I'm gonna have to do the equivalent of several years of front-line combat? I'm pretty sure I'll be fine with just about anything that goes bang. I'm not getting deployed to fallujah.

[@AlecBaldwin98]

But muh apocalypse fantasy

[@N_4747]

and dont forget pulling an AR workbench and reloading equipment out of your backpack in the field

[@angelsc7588]

I find it odd how many SHTF/Doomsday Preppers are so vocal as to the tactical and some limited lower scale logistics aspects only without a single thought to Operational/Economic Situation that may come after said the SHTF event

[@missingno5088]

Yup I sure that less than 5% of them even know how to grow or harvest their own food. Or how to get clean water to drink. They always forget the basics!!!

[@johnelliott7375]

Thanks for your beginning of the video. Beggars can't be a chooser., If you can't be hit something with a pistol regardless of what it is your not a marksman and probably can't hit the broad side of a barn anyways. I agree with you on your advice and information.

[@deleteduser3455]

The boring but probably comforting truth is unless it's the zombie apocalypse or something truly impossible like that there will never come a time where you use more than a few hundred rounds in combat realistically unless it's literally a civil war. But if you are just surviving in a regular shit hit the fan the chances you use more than a magazine of ammo is low

[@gamez4420]

a tool is just a gun with an assigned purpose. That little heritage revolver you get for baby's first gun? that can be a tool if you have a dedicated purpose to it. Even then some tools aren't going to be necessary for all situations, or they'll flatout be useless in these dream crises scenarios. It's really just a spectrum

[@jacobishii6121]

I hate when people are being serious and dont understand that the "ak 47" they buy is most likely a Sporter rifle not made to act like the name sake.Same goes for a good amount of AR

[@monarchtherapsidsinostran9125]

A doomsday senario where you just have something super basic with ammo commonality is all you need. All of that involves cost and availability. It doesn't even matter if its super reliable. Having ANYTHING in doomsday that can use the rounds is better than nothing. Next thing you worry about is reliability. After than you worry about the guns capabilities like mag size. FINALLY you worry about everything else.