Loading up the Hantek 1008c , a few things it does well.....and some that it does not.

[@chrisingram7277]

Great video addition, people often ask about the 1008 on telegram, now we have a video to show them 👍

[@Backalleydiagnostics]

@chrisingram7277 On slow moving signals it seems decent. One of the odd things us just tge 2.5 and 19v scales. More around 5 would be more useful. I have a timing belt on a pt cruiser to do. I think I'll get the cam and crank signals with the 1008, before and after. With hscope, I'd rather have the before in hscooe so I can use the 512 in the future and be on the same platform. Always an adventure!

[@chrisingram7277]

@@Backalleydiagnostics I'm not sure if the two voltage scales are because of the 1008 hardware, when we build our own hs402 and see how it works, we see Martin put a programmable amplifier so we have all the different voltage scales.

[@DJ-tn7vj]

Solid information and video. Getting really good it. As you stated, practice on known good so you can become better. Guys always asking me how and why. I like bro. You really have to get use to using any tool. The person name that you can't remember is Mr Pete Meier. He is with Dorman full time now but Brandon Steckler does a great job as well for moto age

[@Backalleydiagnostics]

@DJ-tn7vj Yes, that was his name! I've seen a few with Brandon, they do a great job! The biggest thing to get me checking good is the convenience to the scopes. I was much less likely to use one when I was digging them and the leads out of pack out boxes or cases. Now I like it being as fast as grabbing my test light. Thanks for them comment, always a pleasure!

[@MarcBchannel]

Wow! You really did load it up😂 I was afraid to load it up with 3 but it worked. I could see a pico 4425 user throwing this thing in the garbage but for diy guy its a great tool and gets it done. Not many good affordable options for 4ch scopes. I almost bought an autel mp408. It looked ok and the software was decent but its discontinued now. Im really happy for now with my hs502, 1008, and my pocket scope. Hscope is fantastic and with it I dont see the need for a more expensive scope unless if its a 4425pico. Its on my wish list but Im thankful for what I have now. Great vid. Cheers👍

[@Backalleydiagnostics]

@MarcBchannel Thanks for watching! I loaded as many as I could, the faster signals didn't have enough definition. However you would of noticed a missing one. The pulse sensor ran beautifully and they are only $17 o Rotkee. As far as the scopes go the pico is sweet but there are whispers of Martin producing a 4 channel. I believe it'd be a 504. If he does that'll probably be my next scope. Have a nice Sunday!

[@jeffg1149]

Hey I'm wondering what cable you use from the tablet to the scope? And does that same cable power the scope? Thanks and keep up the good work 👏

[@keltecshooter]

Its a USB printer cable and it powers the scope

[@Backalleydiagnostics]

@jeffg1149 Hi, and thank you! It is just a simple type C to I believe it's a usb 1 on the scopes? Like an old printer usb. I do have a split cord that let's you go to a wall charger for power while using the scope through a type C. However, I never used it as a regular cord does the trick. Yes, the power for the scope all cones from the tablet!

[@john82324]

Hi totally new to the Hscope. What type of tablet do you use? And is there any certain way to set up the Han tech 1080c to the tablet and h scope settings. Sorry for all the questions. I’m a total newbie thanks

[@Backalleydiagnostics]

@john82324 No problem at all and welcome! The tablet is an older Samsung s6 but I've used A series and could not tell the difference. The tablet does not have to be newer or anything high spec, hscope even runs on old android phones. To use the 1008c with the hscope software, you have to purchase the automotive license for it. I can't remember the actual price but believe it was under 20 dollars. Hscope runs the 1008c fine, but the only voltages available are 2.4 and 19v. I think that the 1008c performs better on its native windows software for faster moving signals. Hscope is much easier to use the Hantek with, but the resolution with multiple channels on is more choppy on hscooe than it's software. The 2.4 and 19v as the only 2 voltages on hscope make it so you are either under or over shooting on 12 v. The HS502 and 512 run excellent on hscope and is the platform they were meant to be run on with multiple voltage ranges. Its a good way to get used to the hscope platform, but if I were going to use the 1008c to diagnose a problem, I believe I would use the laptop and it's software. Hope that helps some and any other questions . Feel free to ask! One thing starting out is paying attention to the input ranges of the signal we expect to see and having a scope with ranges that are close in the settings. An example would be the 2.4v range is excellent for 1-2v signals that we see a lot of in vehicles and sensors. The 19v range is excellent for battery voltage, but vehicles have a lot of 5v signals also. The 19v scale would read the 0-5v signal but is trying to read around a quarter of its expected input. Scopes work best close to the max input of their scale without overshooting. Slow signals are not as affected by this as much. Like a crank sensor, 19v scale will pick up a 5v square wave just fine. Can bus however is faster and we are looking for detail. A 5v range is ideal, whether it's built into the scope or if you have a different scope for can bus . Hantek makes a few budget 2 channels with 5v ranges if you do need to expand.

[@john82324]

Thank you for all the information. Question on the 502 and 512. Is one better for automotive? Just not sure which one is the right choice. Thanks in advance

[@Backalleydiagnostics]

@john82324 I use the 512, both are good for automotive but the 502 has a 50v max protection rating compared to 230v for 30 seconds on the 512. I always over protect, like if I forgot to put an attenuator on for a fuel injector or other high voltage spike. The 502 is good for low signals , in mv but can be attenuated for larger voltage. The 512 does work well, even on a 1mv scale but if I were to get into much can bus, I might try a 502. In short they both are good and cover alot of the same areas, but 502 if lower signals are what you expect more, like communication. 512 for ignition and injectors, and if you are like me, the over protection. If I needed to replace my 512 today and Martin only had 502s in stock, I would order the 502 no problem.

[@john82324]

That answer lots of my questions thank you. I think I’m going to go with the 512 just to be on the safe side. I can definitely see that this is going to get addicting. I love tool’s and there are so many cool things to buy. Scopes and accessories. Speaking of accessories which brand do you like?

[@scannersautodiagnostics2985]

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[@dwightferguson5454]

Do you have an electronics background?

[@Backalleydiagnostics]

@dwightferguson5454 Auto and home electronics, not as involved as I wish there was time for however. Did a lot of circuit board repair but not actually designing. I was always hardware, I left the programming to people like Martin!

[@dwightferguson5454]

@@Backalleydiagnostics your video really made a lot of sense and I will like to see you do an ''In Cylinder Pressure Transducer Waveform Analysis'' on one of those working car.

[@Backalleydiagnostics]

@dwightferguson5454 absolutely! I look forward to using the transducer more. Very soon!