Thru Axle Conversion on my Posiedon X in 5 minutes!

[@DuckDuckDad]

Poseidon now sells 4 TA conversion kits for the X frame on their website - Full carbon front fork and rear adapter with and w/o wheel set ($400, $175 respectively), Front carbon fork only ($150), and rear only ($45). All come with the axle(s).

[@testdirver]

where you get the nut 1:37 and what the name of that part also for the front

[@sylvainmichaud2262]

The total opposite of planned or built-in obsolescence. 👍🚴💨 Thanks to Posiedon X. Let's just hope that other manufacturers do the same (even if under license if patented).

[@LockedinCycling]

Thinking of the future even on a budget

[@sylvainmichaud2262]

@@LockedinCycling Waiting for the miracle of a manufacturer that will allow me to think of the futur without a budget ! 🤣

[@LockedinCycling]

Sylvain Michaud 😂 when you find it tag me!!!!!

[@sylvainmichaud2262]

@@LockedinCycling Went to pray for it but even my local church can garanty a miracle without paying the tithing !

[@bradweaver6124]

Other than a fork, would you also not need to replace your hub or wheel to convert the front? I'm looking at the Poseidon X and the State 4130. The X is cheaper and I like it as a bikepacking bike that can also be an intro to cross racing but I wonder if the cost savings over the State 4130 would be eaten up with bringing it up to the same through axels \ that the State comes stock with.

[@LockedinCycling]

I’d watch my review for both bikes, for cx the x is probably better but for bike packing the state is more relaxed endurance geo

[@Marc-vl9id]

I installed the thru axle kit but now the thru axle will not grip onto the nut because it’s no longer long enough. Please help me I don’t know what to do!

[@Marc-vl9id]

Do I need to buy anything else other then these derailleur hangers to make this work?

[@earlelleaguinaldo1277]

what do u call that droput hanger un put on the frame for the true axle

[@DuckDuckDad]

It's the rear TA conversion kit from Poseidon. It's $45. They also offer front ($150), front and rear, with and without wheel set ($400/$175 respectively). All options come with the axle(s).

[@adomingo5579]

Where to buy this kit? Thanks thanks!

[@DuckDuckDad]

Poseidon now sells 4 TA conversion kits for the X frame on their website - Full carbon front fork and rear adapter with and w/o wheel set ($400, $175 respectively), Front carbon fork only ($150), and rear only ($45). All come with the axle(s).

[@JonathanRevelo1]

Hi, where I can buy this kit

[@The442nd]

What's the benefit of "thru axle" over " quick release"?

[@LockedinCycling]

You’ll be able to find videos that explain it a little more in detail, but in short, it’s a more modern standard nowadays, which means it’s easier to find compatible wheels, especially if you’re looking to upgrade as well as it does expand the options for your rear hub for the more modern 11 and 12 Speed Dr. trains, and it is more secure and stiffer so it has less flex than a quick release

[@The442nd]

@@LockedinCycling Wow. Thanks for the quick response. Stopped by their store today and test rode an X ambition and the Redwood. The wife's only letting buy one. looks like it will be the Redwood, for it's flexibility. You wouldn't happen to know if I can put on some thin road wheels on the Redwood, would you?

[@benendetto]

@locked In what thru axle do you use in the video?

[@wjmarcaida6198]

I'm planning to buy the frameset but wanted a 12x142 thru axle (rear). where can I get the conversion kit? thank you

[@LockedinCycling]

WJ Marcaida contact them directly it should be live on the site soon I was told

[@marshalloram1999]

I have this bike and just converted my rear axle. Thread pitch and length of axle were an unknown and took some time and multiple trips to my LBS to work out. Thread pitch is 1.5. a 171mm axel is too long. I don't have it yet but I believe it's a 12 x 163mm with a 1.5 pitch should be the one. @Locked in can you confirm?

[@swray2112]

Marshall, did you ever find out the length?

[@marshalloram1999]

swray2112 yes I ends up with a Robert Axle Project: LIG612 159mm M12 x 1.5 that fits perfectly.

[@Nick-ej5gy]

@@marshalloram1999 was just searching for this info, thanks!

[@tomhounslow7815]

Any ideas where I can find the quick release hanger that you’ve converted from? Don’t want to spend the money on a conversion but I just need that qr hanger!!!

[@LockedinCycling]

You’d have to contact Poseidon for it

[@michaeltucker939]

What thru axel did you install?

[@elvinzki2245]

I have 2021 Trek Roscoe 7. I'm just wondering if this can work on my bike.

[@LockedinCycling]

I doubt it , most are designed for the exact frame that go on

[@aldrinclementina4297]

Do they have this for all mtb? Or just for Poseidon. ( maybe it's a dumb question) lol. Cuz I'm gonna make my 26 Giant into a mullet 27.5 front with 26 in the back. Buying a fork means that it will come in thru axle model. I'll have to convert the rear wheel also. I don't know if there are thru axle 26 around

[@LockedinCycling]

This is just for there frame

[@bassist452]

That’s pretty neat. As long as the hubs are built for it.

[@LockedinCycling]

Adrian Rooney yes most mid level and up hubs you can convert

[@brandoncostner7437]

You just drill em out

[@johnpaulgallegos8961]

What do I need to buy other than the conversion kit?

[@njrivetelite]

That Cassette looks huge what is the range on that one?

[@tamoemetcalfe1666]

It looks like a 10 to 48

[@MAD20248]

How many speeds?

[@karlosp02]

wish i could do this on my Trek X-caliber 😭😢?

[@AbdulDobreia]

Why cant you do that, i have a x-caliber 7 an i am looking to do the conversion, why?

[@marvincornejo7416]

You didnt describe how you converted your rear hub to thru axle

[@ns671fr]

He just bought a thru axle wheelset

[@svonavja]

That's cool but what changes were made on the rear wheel/hub?

[@LockedinCycling]

Most mid level and above wheels offer the ability to change the rear hub to a thru axle style hub from a quick release

[@michaelbriones1991]

Where can I buy this conversion kit?

[@DuckDuckDad]

Poseidon now sells 4 TA conversion kits for the X frame on their website - Full carbon front fork and rear adapter with and w/o wheel set ($400, $175 respectively), Front carbon fork only ($150), and rear only ($45). All come with the axle(s). switching to a 650B wheel set. It was just delivered today and I'm still shopping for wheels, so I haven't installed it yet.

[@ugurpolatarslan]

I have 2016 btwin rockrider 500 would it fit ?

[@LockedinCycling]

No it’s designed for this frame only

[@r.i.a636]

Then what size of hubs that can do quick release and boost i think 142 mm ...because im going to build my first bike and it needs 148 mm bokst

[@LockedinCycling]

Ruel Alvarez so this frame wont work for boost, for boost your 110mm for the fork and 148mm for the rear. Non boost frames like this one are 100mm and 142mm in the rear

[@HamBone123456789ten]

About to start my first real build. If I did read through axel, would that mean I have to buy two separate style wheels? A through axel rear and a quick release front?

[@LockedinCycling]

HamBone123456789ten well depending on the hubs in your wheels, most mid level wheels and up offer conversion kits so you could swap just the rear end caps to make it through axle. On my build I swapped fork to the fyxation Sparta front fork to make front thru axle. I have review for that fork and you can see it in the posideon build series I’ve uploaded.

[@HamBone123456789ten]

Locked In awesome. Thanks. I haven’t bought wheels yet. It seems as though I can get an adapter to make a TA compatible with the QR fork? Just curious but what are you using for wheels?

[@chrislukes9037]

I love the modular/future-proofed nature of this, but I'm a bit confused -- aren't you still limited to wheels that have an "OLD" (or whatever the appropriate term would be for thru-axle) of 135? The inner spacing of the dropouts doesn't appear to change, so is this truly a "conversion to 142"? I thought part of the point of increasing axle lengths was to allow truly "wider-built" wheels with more dish on the spoke angle for better strength -- what's the point of just having extra axle stick out on the outsides of the dropout?! (I realize there are other benefits to thru-axles). Maybe I'm a bit naive since I've never owned a through axle bike --is this typical for "native" 142 through axle bikes, that the inner spacing of the dropouts is still 135? Were 12x142 and QR9x135 always meant to be equivalents, and only numbered differently based on measuring conventions (...OLD for QR vs. total axle length for thru-axles...?), and it's only "boost" variations that truly increase the actual "OLD"/inner dropout spacing and effective possible hub flange width? Just guessing here, but I've also read that early through axles were "12x135")

[@marshalloram1999]

It’s Definitly a 142. Just need to confirm the real axel length. Thread pitch is 1.5 that much I’m sure of.

[@troyeaston3479]

@@marshalloram1999 Hi. By any chance. Did you figure out the real axle length? Got one today but it was 171mm (didn't know before I received it) Thanks for your help.

[@marshalloram1999]

Troy Easton I have a Robert Axle Project: LIG612 159mm M12 x 1.5 that fits perfectly.

[@DavidStrchld]

I'm looking to go the other way Thru > QR , but can someone tell me why one would want a thru axle? The only reason I could think is wheel theft is much easier with QR.

[@LockedinCycling]

It’s stiffer, it will never slip under high torque in the rear, self centers compared to qr that can do that. For disk brake bikes this helps with brake shuttering

[@Boom-lr5lw]

I have a question, before you convert qr to thru axle do you find the derailleur hanger being bent inward when you close the qr lever?

[@LockedinCycling]

No it’s shouldn’t move

[@Boom-lr5lw]

Oh no mine does

[@dev1ce888]

can i get something like this for my scott scale 980?

[@LockedinCycling]

You have to check with Scott

[@hannes8364]

Hey, where i can buy this Kit? Nice Video 👍😊

[@eman2537]

Hey I got a 2015 Cannondale synapse should I get the Poseidon x or just stick with what I have?

[@LockedinCycling]

eman2537 really depends on what you like about the current bike and are looking for in a new bike. The synapse from what I know will probably be more upright as far as positioning but doesn’t have the tire clearance the Poseidon has

[@eman2537]

@@LockedinCycling oh wow thanks for the response. I really appreciate it your content is amazing keep up the good work. Knowing me I will probably get one have some other bikes I can sell to cushion the blow. My wife is going to trip lol.

[@johnpajarillo258]

did you change your hubs? what axle diameter did you use?

[@truedarklander]

He said 12mm

[@jasonbrown467]

curious, i was just told by several know it alls that this wasnt possible

[@LockedinCycling]

It is if the frames designed for it like this one is

[@jasonbrown467]

@@LockedinCycling yeah, and i have seen axel adapters too that allow for a quick release axle to pass through a thru axle shaft

[@AbrahamBarberi]

Great video and information. Are all Poseidon thru axle adapters universal? I have a Specialized Rockhopper, would it fit? Thank you

[@muhammadarifaiman4889]

Do u convert already? I rockhopper too...

[@joshifyed9855]

Could this work on the 2020 Trek Roscoe 8?

[@LockedinCycling]

JOSHIFYED this conversion was built by them for this frameset only (as far as I know) to convert from QR to thru axle.

[@joshifyed9855]

@@LockedinCycling cheers, however is there anything like this that could work for the Roscoe?

[@LockedinCycling]

JOSHIFYED I’m not sure since they make soo many types of rear derailleur hangers and if the manufacturer didn’t plan for frame to accept both axle widths you could have clearance issues

[@joshifyed9855]

@@LockedinCycling yeah thanks anyway bro

[@confusedgamermango3197]

@@joshifyed9855 Did you end up finding a conversion kit for the Roscoe. My dame Quick release keeps loosing up during rough rides!

[@kayexclusives8119]

Will this work on all bikes that have a sram drivetrain

[@LockedinCycling]

Kier Hunt the drivetrain choice doesn’t matter, the conversion is just frame dependent

[@kayexclusives8119]

Locked In i have a voodoo bizango and i am wondering if it will work on mine

[@LockedinCycling]

Kier Hunt I would contact them and check if they make a conversion kit

[@Pikingbiking]

That is such a sweet idea

[@YT_RANDOM55]

Can you do this on any bike with those dropouts ?

[@davidlam8036]

Any idea about the above question? I have a silverback stride expert 2020 frame with the exact same looking hanger

[@DuckDuckDad]

They're made by Poseidon specifically for their frame. The rear kit is only ($45) if you want to try, but no guarantees.

[@bmlkohs]

This makes me happy! I'm over 250lbs so I'm not a fan of anything quick release if it's going to take some abuse. Looks like it's time to get one and throw on my R8000 group that's sitting in my closet.

[@LockedinCycling]

Branden Kohs time to party 🎊 🎉!

[@jurisx85]

OMG! Why isn’t this mainstream?...

[@r.i.a636]

How about 135 to 148 mm thru axle can it be converted?

[@LockedinCycling]

Ruel Alvarez it comes 135mm for QR, only specialized did 135 thru axle for a few years. The frame isn’t designed for boost to do 148

[@RideSlow214]

What frame you use.

[@LockedinCycling]

Gala ni Bots posiedon x

[@jonahcourtemanche1312]

Thank- You God, Thank - You God, Thank - You God, Thank - You God.

[@ICE329]

👍👍👍

[@misfit_lifestyle]

If anyone can make this for my 2020 giant stance 29er I will pay 💰

[@mikdaddario6257]

looking for the same solution for my 2013 giant reign

[@jonahcourtemanche1312]

God ( Jesus Christ. ) Will Always Be With You Forever And Forever And Forever And Forever For All Eternity.

[@danshady09]

Prove it

[@Marc-vl9id]

It’s not that easy bro! My entire gearing is totally off!

[@Marc-vl9id]

I definitely need to take it to a bike shop now! I don’t know how to fix the gears!!