Lockerstor Gen3 Review - GO HOME EVERYONE

[@Rhino1188]

Asustor's outreach and communication with customers in comments and reviews in your channel says a lot! Taking product feedback and implementing changes into future products is something they do very well. I purchased the 10 bay gen3 lockerstor a few days ago because it was the best hardware in this segment in a market filled with dinosaurs that have no desire to build a better product. Asustor seems to be setting the bar higher and that's something I want to support and get behind! I'm new to the NAS ecosystem and I don't like rewarding lazy companies or companies who drag their feet or unwilling to improve products via feedback. My decision was between Synology and Asustor and I felt like Synology simply didn't want my money. Synology doesn't offer compelling hardware and is slow to innovate and improve product offerings unlike Asustor!

[@ASUSTOR_YT]

I appreciate and thank you for your support! I am happy to listen and respond anytime!

[@Rhino1188]

Wow this is right on time! I'm looking to get my 1st NAS and this is one I was looking at for the past few days that checks all the boxes for me!

[@nascompares]

Glad/hope this video helps. Have a fantastic weekend bud

[@wartlme]

Neat product. Each person has their own use case. I built my own and could not be any happier with it. I have built so many NASs and virtualization servers that I finally have what I need. Consider your needs and decide what is good for you.

[@JeremyMarkel]

Ouch! $2000 CAD for the six bay! Sure, there are some nice new features but that's double what I paid for the gen 2 six bay a year ago.

[@ASUSTOR_YT]

But essentially 10x the performance. Numerous people begged us for Ryzen, ECC, 10GbE and Thunderbolt. None of these things are cheap. We're not discontinuing the Gen2 option, but we wanted to address those requests too.

[@waynebagger643]

Yeah, I felt the same way, but the six bay is also everything I thought I wanted in my perfect NAS. It would allow me to consolidate my small collection of older and relatively power-hungry servers into one compact box. If I hadn't bought an AS-5404T a year ago I'd probably jump right in. I'd have to pick up a used Zimaboard or cheap intel mini PC to get transcoding for my Jellyfin, but it happens so rarely in my setup I might not even notice with this.

[@giornikitop5373]

@@ASUSTOR_YT true. btw, why the 2x5gbit ethernet? it's very rarely used even in the enterprise, let alone in a home/lab setup and 10gbe adapters/switches usually have trouble with it. if they can do 2.5gb, i get it, otherwise what was the thinking behind this?

[@ASUSTOR_YT]

@giornikitop5373 It's a good question! The 10-Gigabit ports don't support wake on LAN/WAN. The 2.5-Gigabit ones do. We included 2.5G on the last NAS. But we ended up getting a deal on a contract to buy 5G controllers that support the feature for a price that just made sense. And it allows the NAS to push out extra data to those who may not need the speed without congesting the 10G ports.

[@ASUSTOR_YT]

@@waynebagger643 It's totally understandable, we're not abandoning budget users, but we're resegmenting our lineup to better accommodate different types of users and their demands. And your support is appreciated! With this NAS, I am definitely asking the boss to add eGPU support on the USB4 ports.

[@greglonnon]

How much of a DIY Nas could you have with $1300. I am pretty sure one could double almost every aspect of this NAS with $1300 of DIY NAS. That would be an interesting video, btw.

[@randiTriadi]

You’re paying for the enclosure and having someone to built it for you.

[@ASUSTOR_YT]

​@@randiTriadi And the software that manages itself.

[@aznhomig]

​@@ASUSTOR_YTNo such thing, what?

[@giornikitop5373]

@@aznhomig of course there is such a thing. you think a high end storage costs hundreds of thousands of dollars, only because of the hardware? there is always a cost for the software, no matter what the product is.

[@10Sambo01]

NAS prices are ridiculous!

[@ervwalter]

Eagerly awaiting your video on how you got Truenas or other third party software on this without a GPU that lets you access the bios, etc.

[@ASUSTOR_YT]

Might take a little while. I tested it and the kernel drivers for the 10-Gigabit don't work. If you are able to recompile the kernel with the proper drivers, then it should work. We're going to send this to Linux-minded youtubers who will probably co-operate with us in showing how to get the drivers working.

[@BrownieX001]

This is an awesome system. Looking forward to more Asustor video coverage. I need to know how I can get the most out of my Gen2 Lockerstor.

[@ASUSTOR_YT]

Thank you!

[@nathanruben3372]

No video encoding for that price….

[@YooWhatsPoppin]

and because of that "Go Home Lockerstor Gen 3" 😆

[@Rhino1188]

Why does it need encoding? Shouldn't a NAS be a NAS? My workstation is on 24/7 and does all encoding.

[@rrsf4i]

i bet you can remove the nvme card and install intel arc gpu

[@DuncDog]

Every modern mobile device supports hevc/mpeg4, and even newer ones support av1. Why exactly are we transcoding video anymore for far clients?

[@Erin-Thor]

@@Rhino1188 - I think he means when using a NAS with a video security system that stores videos on the NAS.

[@tangodown2721]

Feels like Asustor is one of the best positioned companies to take the crown from Synology in the enthusiat space if they can get their software comparable to DSM.

[@Erin-Thor]

I love my Synology NAS, but the one time I needed support, zero response from them whatsoever. After a few days I figured it out. Minor point I know, but sometimes a simple phone call can save so much time.

[@keithmiller9665]

Real shame about the no-go price because it is a nice looking NAS.

[@ASUSTOR_YT]

Well we found that numerous people have demanded these features. They're not cheap features by any stretch of the imagination but we feel the value is there because it offers these features and enables people to have a 10x increase in performance compared ot the last gen but we're not abandoning our other markets too. We want to have a lineup for everyone!

[@swashyhimself]

@@ASUSTOR_YTI’m a video editor thinking about this solution are there any limitations in the kinds of media that will work because I have many different media types video files etc

[@ASUSTOR_YT]

@@swashyhimself What exactly are you trying to do?

[@swashyhimself]

@@ASUSTOR_YT I just need storage for my clients 4k video files which is accesible from different locations and my editor can work on im hearing something about hevc h265 not working or transcoding?? There's a lot of techno babble I'm not sure applies to me.

[@ASUSTOR_YT]

@@swashyhimself Then definitely don't buy this. Our Intel-based ones do support transcoding. This one does not because the AMD processor does not support it.

[@computron5824]

If this is supposed to be a different product line, then the naming is not good at all (AS6704T vs AS6804T). Most people assume that a jump in generation won't come with around a 110% increase in price ($609 vs $1,299), and that's why there are so many sticker shock comments. I'm going to skip this one, but thanks for making the video!

[@nascompares]

My opinion EXACTLY. Eg The Synology J, Plus, XS, SA series... If a new Synology DS925+ had a Ryzen 5, 2x 10GbE and thunderbolt.. but was 3x the price of a DS923+..people would be burning the place down in rage. Call it the DS923XS+ or SA923..suddenly it's acceptable. They should have made this into a "Lockerstor Pro" or q "PowerStor" series or something. Spun it off into its own thing.

[@paressh]

They should have put dedicated graphics in this device at this price.

[@NeedBetterLoginName]

If you wanted to fill all those those Gen 4x1 NMVe slots, which NVMe drives would you put there? I suppose things like Samsung 990's would be a waste because they are too fast. Sorry not an expert with hardware.

[@PCPresupuestos]

Hello, excellent review, I leave a good like! Asustor Lockerstor 4 Gen3 AS6804T in Amazon Spain by 1429€ Asustor Lockerstor 6 Gen3 AS6806T in Amazon Spain by 1649€

[@illyrinia555]

Synology needs to take some notes.....

[@BoraHorzaGobuchul]

"huh, look at those prices! We could raise ours without improving hw, thanks to our brand!" - Synology

[@dllemm]

@@BoraHorzaGobuchul Without improving hardware? Have you looked at gen 2?

[@someguy0523]

Any improvements to virtualization?

[@nascompares]

Making and publishing a vid on ADM5 as we speak. The Virtual box tool seems to be the same as in v4

[@mogelbar1020]

@@nascompares when will It be released?

[@tokyojerry]

I currently own an ASUSTOR Flashstore FS67O6T. This AS6804T might be just the product I may want primarily because of the inclusion of USB4 Hopefully to provide a couple of enabling functions. About the USB4 x2 ports, is it possible to connect: 1. to a local PC to use as a DAS for local access? (i.e. video editing I/O, etc.) 2. to Thunderbolt 4 dock (Sonnettech Edge 20) to expand ports? 3. to a second NAS (FS6706T) to back up from FS6812X to FS6706T (currently owned)

[@krz8888888]

Love the ECC but that’s a bit rich for 4 bays if there are no expansion chassis available

[@ASUSTOR_YT]

We do sell expansion units if needed.

[@ddamyanov]

I hate seagulls! Excellent work with the testing!

[@rrsf4i]

Hi! you mentioned connecting ms-01 to as6804t via thunderbolt(usb4). Will it work if ms-01 runs vmware esxi and how will the storage show up? Can you test please? I would like to use both usb4 on nas to connect to 2 x ms-01 for high availability automatic vm migration and wondering if this is possible. I will be willing to ignore the price if it can be done via USB and keep the sfp ports as backup access to nas via mikrotik sw

[@douglasmontgomery6315]

So, not a good choice for a Plex video server? - No graphics - hardware decoding/transcoding. Could a graphics card be installed on the top where the extra gigabit card can?

[@ASUSTOR_YT]

At the moment, we would recommend buying the Gen2 or AS54 for media. We are looking into ways for people to add a dGPU through the USB4 ports but this is not a feature at the moment.

[@ca2997]

@@ASUSTOR_YTwhen flashstor g2??

[@ASUSTOR_YT]

@ca2997 Staggered release in select regions will begin next week.

[@ca2997]

@@ASUSTOR_YT awesome looking forward to 12 pro g2 can you say which regions first? Only on Amazon? Can we preorder somewhere? Thanks for the quick reply

[@johnorr8051]

In case it makes a difference, I'm hanging out for a 12 bay flashstor G2 in Australia

[@ChurkLeung]

Wondering if the nvme drives can be raided with redundancy and making this 4 drive unit into technically 8 drive unit?

[@kevinh5024]

I really like this unit. Nice review. You mentioned testing the M.2s with and without heatsinks. I see these were M.2 mfr heatsinks, from different mfrs. Any experience with the Asustor heatsinks that are available fir nominal price? I saw you used different sized m.2s. Is there a recommended size for these units? Best to use same M.2 NVME, in all the slots? Is it best to populate all 4 slots like you did, a start of using unit? Or is it OK to add more later? I cant find much on the M.2’s in the manual.

[@ASUSTOR_YT]

Thank you for your compliments! You don't have to populate all sockets. There is no recomendeded capacity. We use the M.2 2280 form factor. It is absolutely fine to add more later. I'll ask my team to add these questions to the FAQs!

[@dmille6]

do these devices have a filesystem like synology's SHR that allows you to mix and match drive sizes and expand the file system by adding larger drives over time?

[@nascompares]

Unfortunately, no. They have BTRFS, but not drive mixing

[@BoraHorzaGobuchul]

Technically, shr is not a filesystem

[@dmille6]

@@BoraHorzaGobuchul we can call it whatever we want.. "do these devices have a way to mix and match drives and drive capacity while still using the majority of the space for either capacity or redundancy?" and I think the answer is "no"

[@BoraHorzaGobuchul]

@@dmille6 calling stuff whatever you want us a recipe for chaos. And I've found that mixing various drive sizes is more of a gimmick. Unless you have a lot of various sizes (usually all not so big) drives, in which case unRAID seems to be a better option but power efficiency and chassis limitations start making it questionable.

[@Rushil69420]

The closest competition to this has to be the Zimacube Pro, it’s got very similar specs and features. I don’t know why people are complaining so much about the price, as if this isn’t jam packed with “premium” features either. USB4, multiple M.2 slots, lots of high speed networking, a decently fast CPU.

[@rogerhuston8287]

Only x1 lanes for nvme is a no go for me. If you can only do 2gps on the ssds then what good is a 20gbps connection?

[@Frostifrysen]

Well, 2GB is about the same as 20Gb...

[@junior-OG]

@@rogerhuston8287 with multiple nvme you can do raid and get more speed

[@ASUSTOR_YT]

Hi there! We chose to put x1 because x1 lanes get 2 GB/s which is about the same as a 20 Gbps connection. We think it's better to give people capacity that they can use instead of putting in one slot that has performance that can't be used.

[@junior-OG]

@@ASUSTOR_YT can it do smb multichannel with both thunderbolt port and get 40 gbps ?

[@ASUSTOR_YT]

@junior-OG There isn't anything that would prevent the protocol from enabling and using it. But the PCI Express bus might be the bottleneck at this point.

[@davelamont]

Oh my, an 8 bay? LOL. You're killing my retirement!

[@nascompares]

*puts down pint* look Dave, I'm not killing your retirement. I'm just giving it a bloody good hiding. Jokes aside, this system really is a doozey, even at that price tag

[@1xXNimrodXx1]

This is the way. Its an awesome device and the pricetag would be justified, if there were not so much cheap used AMD boards and CPUs out there with also ECC support and the iption to add an ARC310. But for this formfactor and prebuilt, its all you need and could ask for in terms of storage. For Transcoding, just get some Radxa X4 and built that Application HA-cluster. All boxes ticked: - AMD - ECC - 10GBE - 4x NVME Improvements? Check if you can get 1 pciex8 slot and make space for a low profile upgrade card (Low profile GPU or to add 2 more NVME or to add more NICs for a virtualized firewall - this would futureproof this thing furthermore)

[@Galmok18]

The features are ok, but only if the system doesn't use too much power. In my situation, it would be fairly idle most of the day, only running home assistant, so the disk would be spun down and one or two NVME drives would receive occasional writes. What would the power usage be in this situation? I don't really care how much the system uses when it is active as that is only like 3-4 hours a day.

[@tschorsch]

Disk hibernation is 18 watts. Normal operation is 34 watts. the PSU is only 90 watts, so with 4 drives spinning, it's probably about 75 watts.

[@Galmok18]

@tschorsch 18 watts doing basically nothing is 10 watts to much for me.

[@testshoot]

I really need the Intel chipset. My use case is self-host, immich/photoprism, pihole, jellyfin, and to have a 4k editing pipeline, but the TB4 might satisfy the speed I need for that and the large Lightroom catalog of 200mb raw files I work with.

[@keithmiller9665]

Agree. I only buy Intel CPUs because of my QuickSync hardware video transcoding needs.

[@daniel.gavaud]

Is it possible to connect an external GPU as a solution for transcoding or not…?

[@testshoot]

@@daniel.gavaud nope

[@ASUSTOR_YT]

@@daniel.gavaud At the moment, no, but we're studying to see how we can implement it.

[@AminA-pj9gr]

any updates on flshstore Gen2?

[@ASUSTOR_YT]

Before the 19th.

[@LeeMaiden]

You just reminded me I need to get a couple 1TB NVMe's to stuff in my Gen 2, I have 2 1TB NVMe's in there for read/write cache, but I want a couple more to do a RAID 1 for a volume2 super fast RAID 1 to run a VM on, my only concern is I only have 16GB of RAM of this same new version as this Gen 3 has except mine's not ECC, and my RAM amount is maxed out, and that's why it's been on the back burner. I don't care for this LED panel on the Gen 3. I do love my NAS it's very thrifty on power consumption and I only had one problem that even though their support gave me the correct image file, the instructions were very wrong, but I knew how to flash it anyway. So the support gets a plus for understanding the problem, but a minus for bad instruction.

[@LeeMaiden]

I'm not an AMD fan either, they can keep that, mine is for media and I make use of the transcoding often.

[@imopn]

Wish they would just pick AMD processors that have iGPU. If companies can use a i5/i7 there is no reason they can't use something like AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX 370. Supports all the latest codecs like AV1 and have a good GPU and stupidly efficient

[@ASUSTOR_YT]

The issue is, we can't. The Ryzen AI 9 HX370 has only been out for a little while and product development for our software takes time. When we planned this system, the Ryzen Embedded V3000 series were the newest for systems like ours. But, we also pick CPUs that are designated by Intel and AMD, both explicitly and internally as embedded CPUs. Our NASes are considered embedded systems and purchasing embedded CPUs for our systems means we are able to support our products for many more years than CPUs designated as consumer CPUs. For example, our AS7010T used an i3 4330. On the surface, it appears like any other i3, but the Intel ARK page for the 4330 lists Embedded Broad Market as one of its use conditions. For a CPU released in 2013, we received technical and software support from Intel all the way until 2021 which helped us keep updating the software and adding features for just as long, but ensures stability and protection of customer data. We pass that longevity to the consumer. We don't believe in buying a new product every year. We want people Embedded CPUs are designed to have longer life expectancy and are designed for 24/7 usage even though that we might make more money using cheaper non-embedded CPUs with minimal support and testing. We want people to be happy with the product and have the product last a long time keeping their data safe and we determined, that the Ryzen Embedded V3C14 was the best CPU we could use for this product. We are sure that AMD will release a socalled V4000 series in the future and we have relayed these concerns to our representative. Hopefully it comes with an iGPU for an uncompromised experience. Hope this helps!

[@imopn]

@ASUSTOR_YT what about the embedded 7000 series? I mean I get what you guys are saying and love the long support. So high five on that. Still no GPU means it's useless for a Plex server. But I'm sure you guys have done the research and I guess from the product choices it's clear that Plex/Jellyfin etc users must be the vast minority of user's. Only choice for us then is QNAP with I5/I7.

[@ASUSTOR_YT]

@@imopn There's two issues with the Ryzen Embedded 7000. The main issue with these ones is heat. We aren't a big company so we have to be strategic in our minimum order quantities to get the best price. With the CPU we got, we can (and are) put these in both the Lockerstor and Flashstor for two great products while also fufilling the minimum order quantities to get a good price on them. The Ryzen Embedded still comes with desktop-levels of Zen 3 Performance, but we could not put the Ryzen Embedded 7000 series into such a small flash-based NAS, heat is higher, heat generated from the additional chipset is higher, (Ryzen Embedded is an SoC so it doesn't need a chipset) power consumption is higher for using a chipset and high power CPU. Needs a bigger PSU, adding to further costs. We'd have to add every device the Ryzen Embedded CPU supports like 10G, using PCI Express lanes. It would be a mess. And the second reason is that the iGPU of the non-G Ryzen AM5 CPUs is just not that good for transcoding. The QNAP has its place, but with what we have, especially since our all-Flash Flashstor has more slots than QNAP's, expandable RAM, ECC RAM, and more 10GbE for up to 20 Gbps of performance, I think we have a winner on our hands. I certainly have asked for the addition of support for eGPUs to help accommodate people that want transcoding that otherwise think our product is perfect. I'll keep fighting for you.

[@ASUSTOR_YT]

@@imopn Apparently our reply was deemed by the algorithm as not engaging enough. You might have to press sort by new to see it. Apologies.

[@Porsche_Haus]

So how xo you install truenas on this with no graphics output. Do you remove the ecc mem card and put a low end graphics card in there for display. Want to see how you do it

[@Donbros]

Ok so which nas is extremely secure and has video encoding… ? feels like it is impossible to find such these days

[@demonseedgfx]

Will this take mixed drive sizes like traid? Not found a nas that matches drobo for this functionality yet, and my Drobo really needs to be replaced soon.

[@Erin-Thor]

I’ve been using Synology NAS systems, how does Asustor compare?

[@LordSaliss]

Nice to see some new products trying out embedded ryzen instead of being all Intel on the higher end systems. Do you think the steep price hike is due to a higher cost on the CPU and thats why people havent really been using them? Or is it down to more of the other added things like the high end networking?

[@BoraHorzaGobuchul]

Nice. What's not nice is using amd CPUs which have no transcoding capability

[@Donbros]

@@BoraHorzaGobuchulthat is indeed sad, feels like they hate intel

[@WhoDeanyUnchained]

NASflation

[@FastRedPonyCar]

Too rich for my blood. I ended up buying a QNAP TS-637A. I've got a spare quadro 2000, a 10G nic and 32gigs of laptop ram that will all go into the unit along with 6x 12TB drives. Should be a nice solid Plex server upgrade from what I've been using.

[@nascompares]

Cheers for sharing bud!

[@nphamus09]

🤦‍♂️💥 Ouch, Robbie... Okay, some of us have been wanting you to take that Unify NAS for a drive while attached to large storage (WD Elements)... Thanks!

[@BobHannent]

I probably would have designed it with 2.5G instead of 5G to value engineer it. Given the number of interfaces, I am not surprised they reduced the number of lanes for the nvme

[@ASUSTOR_YT]

Well... we got the 5GbE controllers at a price nearly identical to the 2.5GbE controllers. We couldn't say no!

[@keithmiller9665]

At that price…No Deal! 😮

[@theroboticscodedepot7736]

Looks like a nice device but for business level VMs and containers it needs a much better CPU.

[@JohnPob]

Could you use a low power GPU on this for transcoding?

[@nascompares]

I mean, only if you removed the 4x m.2 card and even then, it's not ALOT of space. Support and drivers aside, you would be better off an Intel core system of a similar scale.

[@iliahborg7079]

@@nascompares Possibly, OCuLink into one of M.2 slots / use one of the existing TB ports + eGPU.

[@ProjectileGrommet]

Any updates on the Flashstor gen 2?

[@ASUSTOR_YT]

within the next couple of weeks for most markets. Likely on the 19th

[@ultimatemaverick]

Hopefully they release a lower spec 4 bay version because the price is ridiculuous.

[@ASUSTOR_YT]

We have one already. The Lockerstor Gen2 series.

[@zMeul]

1300USD .. nope!

[@nathanruben3372]

gen 2 and 3 are not comparable. Ecc ram for example. They have become apple and oranges. Gen 3 is needed gpu. I guess for markating issue, they did not involve it.

[@odbo_One]

It's got that late 80's look.

[@scytob]

So basically a Ryan version of the zimacube pro, see I told y’all equivalent systems would cost same or more….

[@TeeEllohwhydee]

Is it made of gold?

[@antong3987]

You obviously haven't been paying attention to gold prices lately...

[@w3isserwolf]

Thats way to expensive. 4C CPU? No Encoder? Sorry but i stay with my TrueNas diy Nas for 250€ (no storage) with an aliexpress topton Nas Board. And a pico psu

[@6754sdn]

I ordered the 6 bay last week, but cancelled 6 hours later when i realised it had no video encoding, or the Ability to add an encoding card. Its such a shame, i was so excited for at least 4 hours 😢 interestingly though the version i ordered did say it had ecc ram

[@ASUSTOR_YT]

We understand, but for the class of CPU included, we'd have to sacrifice a lot of the features like ECC if we went with Intel. AMD didn't bring an iGPU when we planned this out so this is what we had to do. We still sell NASes with iGPUs though and we're not abandoning those.

[@jimcallahan448]

If I was Asustor, I would send a gratis machine each to DuckDB Labs, Mother Duck and Crunchy Data and say can you develop a version of Postgres + DuckDB on this machine (native or Docker or Kubernets) in a cool way such as easy connectivity to cloud services and Amazon S3 storage? If you do, we will feature and promote it.

[@augurseer]

For 1200. No. And I love and, but for a small NAS that is for home. No. I need Intel for Quick sync.

[@ASUSTOR_YT]

Understandable, that's why we're not abandoning our Intel NASes.

[@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios]

Can it support SAS drives?

[@ASUSTOR_YT]

No. We support SATA drives built for NAS.

[@ThePaulpope]

I don't understand what they are thinking with the price ...it's ridiculous and will cause it to fail

[@av_oid]

❌ No deal! ❌

[@CaptainRon1913]

High price for Asus famous lack of customer service, and "blame the customer first" policy. No thanks

[@ASUSTOR_YT]

Hi there. We're not ASUS, we're ASUSTOR. We're an independently run company and we do everything including our warranties independently.

[@moheuropeanassult]

Wrong company, these people are separated from Asus themselves.

[@Andrew-py4rv]

At that price, nope!!

[@scrampker]

Yeah $1,200 is basically a deal-breaker. I just got my MS-01 with 96GB, 2TB and 1TB NVMe, plus QNAP 8 bay JBOD. Their pfi card fit perfect. This serup is cheaper and also spreads the heat out better. Identical connectivity as well.

[@WanderingWarner]

Is anyone using this for 4K video editing?

[@andrewmarvinkeuning7024]

Does the new system support zfs, or are they still btrfs? Video encoding is one of the main reasons I have used Asustor in the past. Shame it's not on this model. Would be interesting if there was a transcoding model with an AMD graphics card. Something like that with hdmi output would be useful as a steamdeck alternative connected to a tv.

[@ASUSTOR_YT]

we'd like to have an iGPU too, but when we planned this NAS, this was our only option.

[@Donbros]

Asustor made gaming nas 😅 are they mad

[@mullthedroneguy]

I made DIY for less than £200 Enclosure with 8 Sata back pane £120 Motherboard £60 PSU £14 Total = £194 4 x HDD £120 Installed TrueNAS on it. I have everything I ever wanted on a home server.

[@bingo475]

Technical inclined people would be able to build a way better 10Gbe or 25/40Gbe NAS for less then $1,200. A question for the people in the comments, do you really need more then 1Gbe connection for your NAS? If your doing video editing off your NAS 1Gbe is not enough but for automated backups 1Gbe seems fine to me.

[@computron5824]

Everyone will have different needs, but in my opinion 1GbE is not enough in terms of where certain software and even entertainment products are heading. As you said, working with video won't be optimal, but games have also been increasingly relying on nvme m.2 for fast access to data. For anyone who works with 3D, assets can easily hit over 1GB per frame, and that's not even the whole scene. Not everyone will need to access that much dense data quickly, but as overall demand grows I would prefer not to impose limits. Of course having said that, it's good to question whether a niche product makes sense in everyone's specific use case.

[@MacGyver0]

It reminds me old VHS design. For that price I would prefer two ubiquity unas - 14 bays total vs 4 + slow nvme.

[@MrBjorn6]

I currently have the ugreen 6800 my first Nas. SMB isn't working and all kind off software problems. I feel like switching to this instead

[@Collectible_Andy]

Don’t switch hardware… just switch OSs! I have a 6800 running truenas scale and it’s so badass! SMB and apps work very reliably!

[@CoolStuff..]

Cool. What a hardware beast!

[@nascompares]

Yep, real pile driver

[@bluesquadron593]

Whatever is in that box i don't care for 1200+

[@bluesquadron593]

@ nice to hear some encouraging words from a well respected person

[@paulo.valverde]

Nice devices, not a fan of the design tbh… looks from the early 2000s

[@ASUSTOR_YT]

Hehe we'll take that into consideration.

[@MrQleraja]

Price is just ridiculous, DIY NAS is way better in this situation

[@qin1992]

Maybe a dumb question, for home use, how does a NAS be a better option than making the M4 Mac mini a home server with raid external SSDs?

[@Wannes_]

Your storage would be over USB, which is not optimal

[@BenjaminSchollnick]

@@Wannes_ USB 3.1 or 3.2 depending on the enclosure, which is reasonably fast. Alternatively, if you wanted to spend some money, over thunderbolt 4 or 5, which is faster than USB 3.x. Right now, I have 12 TB or so, hanging off a M1 Mac Mini, and the external drives are fine.... Suitable for just about anything I need to do...

[@qin1992]

@ it can use 10Gbps Ethernet port🤔

[@BenjaminSchollnick]

@@qin1992 And the Mac Mini can be 10 Gbs on the ethernet as well. Both built-in as well as via thunderbolt 5 / usb 4.

[@tschorsch]

Reliability would be crap with external SSDs. It's not suitable for this use case.

[@acozad1]

No pci for graphic card for transcode. Dam. Pass.

[@andresvaldevit3692]

1:09 bye

[@fhpchris]

1300$ for a 4 bay? No thanks. I would rather buy an R730xd and an A4000.

[@TheTastefulThickness]

Its 8

[@lifefromscratch2818]

I get it. But size, noise and power consumption aren't comparable in the slightest.

[@mirek6937]

R730xd 260$ on Aliexpress 😂

[@alexandre.leites]

With all due respect, I’m not a fan of hearing influential KZbinrs in a niche like yours describe such a high price as acceptable. Sure, we understand that, compared to the past, we're getting more powerful specs for our money. However, the profit margins on this hardware are still excessively high. The 4-bay version is overpriced by at least 30%, and charging a premium for extra bays seems purely like a business tactic to milky customers. Realistically, the additional hardware probably costs less than 25 USD per bay. It feels like an Apple-like strategy, where minimal cost increases are used to justify big price jumps. That said, excellent review overall!

[@nascompares]

Thanks for the feedback. When It comes to pricing, I should have taken the time to price up what this architecture would cost at the DiY level. I'd estimate at least 900 minimum. Might have to make on that. Cheers

[@Etymologicult]

@@nascompares And out of curiosity, what would be the hardware for a DIY solution like this? (especially mobo and cpu?)

[@tschorsch]

This is not Apple like, at all. If it was, it would be over $2000, and everything would be soldered in and not upgradable.

[@realms4219]

For that price you can just make a custom build.

[@moogs]

F that. Shitty cpu. No iGPU. I would still think about it for half that price.

[@piotr2951]

It's crazy expensive. At this price level for the 6 bay unit I'd just build a server.

[@nathanruben3372]

It is monumental mistake that asus could not incorporate a gpu...

[@ASUSTOR_YT]

That's why we sell NASes with iGPU variants like the AS54 series. This addresses other requests like Ryzen, ECC, USB4 and 10GbE

[@aznhomig]

​@@ASUSTOR_YTBro, it's grossly overpriced for what you're getting.

[@ASUSTOR_YT]

@@aznhomig How so? You're getting dual 10GbE, dual USB4, which is compatible with thunderbolt, ECC RAM, software that makes management easy, four M.2 slots, 2 GB/s of performance, Zen 3 cores. All in a small box that uses very little power. There is no ITX platform that comes close. To even come close to replicating this, it'd be a full ATX tower and even then, it'd be using much more power. If it's not for you, it's not for you, we sell budget NAS devices too if you don't need these features.

[@bufordmaddogtannen]

Imagine how many batman cars $2000CAD could get you... 😂

[@nascompares]

Are we walking 1:19 scale? 1:8? NO, YOU HAVE A PROBLEM

[@bufordmaddogtannen]

@@nascomparesas long as can sit in it... 😂

[@meccu19]

Again ryzen...If this had intel quicksync I would order 10 bay...but without, no, thank you

[@ASUSTOR_YT]

...this is our first Ryzen product. If you need quicksync, the Gen2 supports it.

[@meccu19]

@@ASUSTOR_YT guys, for current NAS, quicksync is must go. Please release same box based on Intel and you will have enough orders.

[@ASUSTOR_YT]

@@meccu19 I am sorry. But that is not possible. Intel does not offer a CPU that has all these features with Quicksync. For Quicksync, we recommend the AS54 or Lockerstor Gen2 series

[@meccu19]

@@ASUSTOR_YT but their mobile cpus should have enough lines for the most features, no?

[@arda_]

The price is a joke considering the software that comes with it. If I didn’t care about NAS software and only cared about hardware, I would go for a diy built I think.

[@balla2172]

You can get 3x unas peo for same price

[@CHallberg]

you lost me after no gpu

[@RadoslawAdamStachnik]

No! €$£¥

[@nascompares]

It is quite the whiplash for users who held off on a Lockerstor G2

[@AgentHeX_0007]

@@nascompares Agreed. I have the Gen1 Lockerstor 4 and the 4 bay USB expander. I have all 8 bays populated and 2x2.5G link aggregated. I have held off on the Gen2 but I think the 10 bay Gen3 is where I could be very tempted as the price will be a little easier to swallow. 10 bays, 2x10Gbe, 2x5Gbe, 4xnVme, +all of that fast USB for my 2xSabrent 4 bay USB3.2 docks and home 10Gbe network.

[@aznhomig]

$1299 is heinously overpriced.

[@tschorsch]

Not for the feature set.

[@ViralVayo]

Go get the Aoostar Pro for lot value of money 😊

[@XtianApi]

"why would I want nascompares merch? Oh, 'I hate seagulls' mug. Nice." Can you imagine what you could build for that money. And you would have truenas

[@FARBerserker]

Even at HALF that Price it is not a good proposition . .

That LCD panel, and the buttons, look so ugly and unnecessary.

[@nascompares]

I thought that way, way back in the day when I first saw this chassis in 2018/2019, but been proved wrong ALOT since then. Aside from the ease of understanding and alert of checking system temps when the fan has gone up quickly, the fact I can safely reboot the system without logging in through 2FA, or initialize a unit for a video without a client device..it's the little things. I'll agree it doesn't exactly scream cutting edge, but better to have this than not at all (IMO etc, blah)

@@nascompares Yeh I see what you mean. Tho they could have done it in style... 😅

[@pascalmartin1891]

​@@nascomparesyou could buy a (larger) LCD monitor for about $100. One has to spend a lot for that physical integration..

[@andrewmarvinkeuning7024]

​@nascompares Would a colour lcd really be that hard to implement given it's 2024 and the new price? Still, it looks like they have recycled a lot from the first gen, saving a lot on design and production costs.

[@MATIvmr]

Lol you gotta be trolling… I5 12600k Z690 32GB DDR4 3200MHZ CL16 3x 16 TB EXOS SEAGATE NVME KINGSTON 1TB Fractal REFINE R5 CORSAIR RM650 And I’ll find some extra arctic p12 max with fan hub for 1287£!!! WITH MUCH MORE POWER, FLEXIBILITY AND ABILITY TO DO WHATEVER YOU WANT SO STOP PROMOTING CRAP LIKE THIS

[@MATIvmr]

@ French fries ? Coca Cola ? Burger ?

[@junior-OG]

@@ymeshulin fan noise too

[@ASUSTOR_YT]

This system has no USB4/Thunderbolt 4. No ECC. No dual 10GbE. We put the features in that people have begged us for. They're not cheap.

[@MATIvmr]

@ begged you? Right, because of that begging you didn’t gave them any encoding for 1200$++ 😂🙅‍♂️ Addons, expansions, does that tell you anything?

[@ASUSTOR_YT]

@@MATIvmr Well. We have already sold most of our first batch and new batches are on the way! But to answer your question, encoding is not something we can just willy nilly add into a system. When planning this device, people asked us for Dual 10GbE, USB4/Thunderbolt and ECC RAM. There are many people who just want FAST and easy-to-use. When it came time to pick a CPU, the best CPU in its class, the AMD Ryzen Embedded V3000 series, did not come with an iGPU, but otherwise came with everything else. It's not like we can just drop encoding into the CPU lol. So, since we already sell great NAS systems with encoding for those that just need a media NAS, we decided that this will be for the people who find that time is money. We have USB4 and we are working on improving our featureset and I have asked the boss to see if we can add eGPU support for transcoding for people who want it all. But yeah. For years, people in comments sections across numerous videos begged us for ECC/Faster-than-10GbE/Thunderbolt. And it is here.

[@daveninjaneuro7089]

Um just buy a new pc for that ridic price.

[@ASUSTOR_YT]

We don't sell PCs though. We sell NAS devices. Most new PCs don't come with these kinds of storage features.

[@user-0341htrs4]

Everything is fine, except that this storage device does not have a normal size a GPU slot and the processor does not have a built-in GPU, this is a big mistake. I see an alternative. The Chinese have a Q670 Intel vPro board for desktop 12 13, 14 GEN processors, with 6 * SATA, 6*NVME, 4*2.5 Gbps, internal USB3. 0 + 4*USB3.2 + 1*3.0 socket, and one Type-C 20Gbps, full PCI-E5. 0*16 worth $ 360 with a cooler and wires. Excellent board, if you add to it JONSBO N2 for $ 160, a power supply for$ 50 and an Intel Core i7-12700 processor for $ 250, 64Gb DDR5 5600Mhz $241.13 (No ECC) + Intel Arc A310-380 ~ $ 100 = $ 920 with the possibility of future upgrades and a video adapter for transcoding or 25-40Gbps NIC, if in priority. And for the remaining difference, you can buy Lifetime License's UNRAID & PLEX ($250 + $ 130) total: 1541$ )))))))) You can always choose a less expensive processor and less RAM, a larger case and a more powerful GPU. This ASUS is almost perfect, but with little space for the GPU and a high price tag, DIY still gives you more freedom and features.

[@BoraHorzaGobuchul]

Board name?

[@user-0341htrs4]

@@BoraHorzaGobuchul NAS Mainboard Q670 Intel vPro Max 6*NVMe 6*SATA3.0 12/13/14th Gen LGA1700 PCIE5.0x16 2*DDR5 4*2.5G LAN Firewall ITX Motherboard

[@tschorsch]

The DIY and ready to go markets are completely different. If you factor in labor, this is much cheaper. DIY is great when that is what you like to do.