LOCO HAULED TRAIN FROM MARSEILLE TO NICE / SNCF LOCO HAULED TER REVIEW / FRENCH TRAIN TRIP REPORT

[@bobsmith6079]

I took a sleeper from Paris to Monaco in 1980 and waking up at dawn as the train passed the magnificent Mediterranean vistas is a treasured memory. Thanks for making this video and bringing those memories back.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

You're welcome 😁

[@johnferguson1412]

Beautiful Nice canopy! I remember taking one of these 1991 Calais-Paris.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Wow I was only just born 😂

[@LynneFarr]

Lovely scenery. I've done this trip before as well as Nice to Nime. Some of my favorite parts of France. Enjoyed your video.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Thank you Lynne! It really is a gem isn't it 😁

[@danicornea]

Ok my young friend from UK ...I am watching your videos ...very nice indeed, even some comments are not quite appropiate...Some...not many...Anyway ...I am from Romania but I have noticed there is no big differences about your western way of seeing things regarding prices...So in that respect we all are in the same boat...👍👌

[@NonstopEurotrip]

I don't like overpaying where I can avoid it 😂

[@rahill-95]

Great video as always and that train station looks spectacular, in addition, really find the front of that locomotive fascinating and loved watching the view of the sea! 😊☺️

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Thanks mate! I really love that stretch of track so much 🥰

[@Oakleaf700]

@@NonstopEurotrip It really is gorgeous, isn't it. We used to get the boat train from Calais to St Raphael and the journey South was always so much better than the journey North! French trains are superb, and UK really needs to learn a thing or two {Or three or four} from France about affordable fares and reliability. I loved the noisy ''Oldskool'' train engines as well from back in the 1980's /90,s.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

@@Oakleaf700 I love them too and search them out wherever I go 😁

[@Oakleaf700]

@@NonstopEurotrip They seem very square fronted compared to UK trains, and have great character. I read that they'd stopped the car transporter {Motorail} a while back?

[@Oakleaf700]

@@NonstopEurotrip I think they had an 'SNCF' circular logo on their fronts. Very ''Robot face'' like. How old would they have been?

[@pascalnemecek1502]

Très belle vidéo ferroviaire. Avec une superbe locomotive comme j'aime, et de beaux décors naturels. Top vidéo ! 👍🇨🇵🚅🤩🤩🙋

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Merci beaucoup 🙏🏻

[@LetsMakeaTrip]

Great video which brought back some fond memories. The first when I travelled all the way down to Nice by train to play a residency at a pub called Wayne’s Bar (the rest of the band had flown down!). The second was that loco which looked very similar to the one that took me down to Latour de Carol on the sleeper a couple of years back. Classic!

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Haha trust you to take the train 😂 There a very common loco, it was probably the same type 👍🏻☺️

[@Oakleaf700]

@@NonstopEurotrip I much prefer trains to flying. One used to be able to take cats and dogs on the trains {Sleeper car} and one time there was a load of fussing in the passenger ''Corridor'' with a woman crying loudly. {Nice-Calais} She's been assigned a couchette with her cat {loose, not in a carrier}with someone who had a well behaved poodle. The Guard asked one of us if we'd swap, and go in with the Poodle, but the woman made such a fuss she was moved to an empty first class couchette with her cat! The guard rolled his eyes...We thought the poodle owner should have gone to first class, as she was being very reasonable. 🤔🐩😂

[@markellis6413]

Great video and what is not to love about a loco hauled train. Fabulous!

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Glad you enjoyed the video Mark 🙏🏻

[@trainlagged]

Travelled them a HUGE number of times - 9:57 and 13:21 is music to my ears! These are no doubt among the best trains you can find in France and that I've ever ridden - very comfortable and dense so perfect for regional traffic, many bike storages, and the compartments are absolutely lovely. Yes time is running out for the Corails but we've still got a fair bit of time left for the Teoz-refurbished ones at least on Bordeaux - Marseille, and as well on all SNCF night services! Since some PACA locos have recently been sent up north we can only assume loco-haul operation will still take place for a while there (most likely with V2Ns, not Corails). Awesome video! :)

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Thanks Ben! I thought you might have an opinion on this one 😃 I have a Bordeaux-Marseille video already filmed too 😂🙏🏻🇨🇵

[@trainlagged]

@@NonstopEurotrip On the one hand I'm glad we're keeping a nice long Corail daytime route - but on the other, I prefer the Corail+ interior to the Teoz which is the most prominent on that route. Although the comfort on the Teoz is higher, I prefer the charm of the Corail+ with the incredible, classic seats and the curtains! Even in first class, on Teoz coaches you have blinds :(

[@holasaca123]

Wow, the train interior is insane!

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Not bad is it 🙂

[@abshivkumar2549]

@@NonstopEurotrip in usa amtrak with their 100 year old coaches are baf

[@hamlet7959]

Living in a region (Occitanie) which has heavily promoted the 1€ fare, particularly if you're travelling by bus. However for TER services I find the number of trains and seats available at 1€ to be too restrictive. You might be interested to learn however that as part of the EU open-access arrangements (which France is finally starting to apply!) the Marseille-Nice service is the first route that SNCF has lost, in this case to Transdev (also a French company). It'll be interesting to see what effect that has on fares and service levels! For information the Thello service has been abandoned, as well as the Russian Railways service from Nice to Moscow (which I think ended up as twice weekly) but, I reckon that'll be back once the pandemic has passed. Nice has been a massive favourite with Russians since Tsarist days and has a very beautiful Russian Orthodox Cathedral.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

I managed to find loads of €1 tickets for most of the routes I wanted to do in summer 2020! Also the video was edited before the Thello and Transdev news was announced, as I've been away for 2 months, but thanks for the information ℹ️🙏🏻

[@etbadaboum]

The interior looks deliciously old-fashioned. Great video! Thanks.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Yeah it certainly is ☺️

[@stijnVDA1994]

Holland has this model loco also in service, it pulled the intercity through my home town

[@akshaypal6753]

europe luks more beautiful than before everytime i see ur vdo

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Thank you 🙏🏻

[@matthewharty6531]

another cracking review, beautiful scenery

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Thank you Matthew! 😃

[@jeromebano1125]

@@NonstopEurotrip Well done nice video I remember these trains very well mostly as the corail & their orange seats they were comfortable to travel on as well.

[@paulmullen745]

Did the same trip Christmas day from Nice a few years back, came back on a TGV as the local service was cancelled

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Nice 😊

[@expattraveler2654]

That SNCF tone never gets old

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Ikr 😆

[@kiwitrains]

Really enjoyed that trip I have done it by road but never on the train I see what I missed, 👍👍🇦🇺

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Much better by train 😉

[@Andrewjg_89]

I have followed you on Twitter. I do like your videos that you uploaded. I have been to France couple times and I’ve learnt a bit of French whilst I was in France for a week. Amazing photos as well.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Thank you Andrew, glad you enjoyed it ☺️

[@theobrattinga500]

Great video !!

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Thanks!

[@algodon9133]

I love this trains good travel and a fantástico video

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Thank you Diego 🙏🏻

[@Humberto-F7]

Thanks for the ride !!!

[@NonstopEurotrip]

You're welcome 🙂

[@RS-bb4mp]

Great video. The scenery just looks breathtaking. I'd really like to do that trip.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Thank you 🙏🏻

[@SS-qf3di]

2:40 That locomotive is called 7000 HO in korea. Great video 👍

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Thank you 😊

[@SS-qf3di]

Its 8000 HO, not 7000 HO I made a mistake. Sorry 😊

[@TheBSODer]

The locomotive looks like the 2600 Series from CP Comboios de Portugal.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Actually the other way round 😂

[@vicsams4431]

Favourite French route ? That is a tough question. Probably Toulouse to LaTour de Carol. Spent most of my visits to France chasing CC72000s from Paris Est to Basel (Bale), Calais to Amiens, Culmont Chalindrey to Toul, Nancy to Belfort, and Paris Nord to Laon. Or BB67400s (and BB67300s) from / to Calais Maritime, Boulogne Maritime and Dieppe Maritime, or Paris Nord to Le Treport, or Paris Montparnasse on the line to Granville. London to Limoges and back in a day, with CC6500s, or the classic route to Strasbourg with BB15000s.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

All excellent choices 😊

[@vicsams4431]

@@NonstopEurotrip Thank you. I have had BB22200 between Marseille and Nice. The French Corail coaches are the most comfortable in the world.

[@manmeetsinghmahajan6183]

Excellent one.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Thank you 🙏🏻

[@PeteBrandy]

Nice video, as always! I like this part of France and also, I like these classic trains! Btw. I have heard that TER trains on this line will no longer run and this route will be operated by Transdev.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Thank you Pete! I'd scheduled this before Transdev was announced. But yes, it'll be interesting to see the difference... 👍🏻

[@CreativeEm]

Another great video... and yep, I'm caught up now lol

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Well done Em, didn't take that long eh 😁

[@CreativeEm]

@@NonstopEurotrip nope... I caught up with the rest last week, just had this one after its release :)

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Excellent work lol 👏🏻

[@travelbuzz1]

Superb video! I did the reverse journey just over a week ago and was pleasantly surprised to see a similar set waiting for me at Nice Ville. Just as well since the train was very busy. Only difference was that the 1st class carriage I went in had compartments instead of a saloon - six armchair seats with those orange curtains, reminiscent of 70s/80s BR Southern Region express units. The only let-down was the very dirty windows. But, a wonderful trip, all the same 😎

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Thank you 🙏🏻And yeah SNCF never seem to be able to clean their windows 😂

[@mfreemam164]

Very enjoyable experience

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Thank you 🙏🏻

[@michaelmacdonell4834]

BOOMWHACKER INTRO IS THE BEST!

[@NonstopEurotrip]

😂😂😂

[@anthonywarrener1881]

Thank you for a great video, which I really enjoyed. I have used this TER service, and like you found it very good. The Corail stock rides superbly, and it is a shame they will soon be replaced by new EMUs !

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Yes Anthony! I'd edited and scheduled this before the news came out that Transdev will be taking over this line. Be interesting to see the difference, as these trains are showing their age!

[@erichhouchens3711]

According the The Man in Seat 61 Thello has given up on the Marseille/Nice to Milan trains as seen at 16:13 in your video. You must now change trains at Ventimiglia from SNCF to FS. This news was from July. Go to his web site and click on News.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

This is true yes. This video was edited before that news was confirmed.

[@crusoerob8550]

Views outside the train are more interesting when people can't travel. Very firw want to see the train facilities, except luggage racks, ithonk. Nice watching, for the scenic view.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

It's pretty much 50/50 in my experience, so I try and show both

[@demil3618]

Nice review! Regarding those padded headrests: I find them quite annoying because they make your head bend/fall forward when you are resting, very uncomfortable. It gets even worse when you are over 1,75 tall as then your shoulders/neck is made to bend forward. Those „window sills“ / AC outlets are also at an angle- preventing you from having an armrest. And the seat arrangements are about 50% in driving direction. we need morepeople to ask for turntable seats like they use in Japan.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Personally it doesn't bother me 😜

[@demil3618]

@@NonstopEurotrip Yeah it‘s probably something only tall people suffer from. Hence I said, it’s when you are taller than 1.75 or so. Same goes for your arm rest: when you are tall, the arm rest of your seat is too low, so you‘d use the window. It‘s ok on short distances but on longer ones when you get tired but can’t sit comfortably, it makes the trip exhausting. DB got some fairly comfy seats on their ICEs, so has ÖBB

[@sebailgiocatore]

Nice trip report,the loco is probably a clssic train: old from outside and modern inside (Sometimes 😅😂)

[@NonstopEurotrip]

😂😂😂

[@fireflyrobert]

I think that population of Marseilles of 870,000 was 2016. Population for 2021 showing at just over 1.6 million. Great video thanks

[@NonstopEurotrip]

The figure quoted was the city population and not the metro area 👍🏻

[@fireflyrobert]

@@NonstopEurotrip thanks, my mistake.

[@pakroomitrains]

Great 😍😍

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Thank you 🙏🏻

[@gab_v250]

16:24 that didn't age well, since Thello had stopped their services.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Ikr very sad 😭

[@notmyname327]

What a scenic journey! Second class feels a bit cramped, and the prices are definitely higher than I expected, but the promotional fares seem worth it.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Completely agree Juan 👍🏻

[@kikibzh4262]

Thank you for this video, the journey is very senic and the corail train very vintage. Just 2 comments: - about the price. There are regional discount card, 30€/year (or 15€/ year under 26 years old), 50% off on all regional network and 75% on “1 prefered journey”. Other national discount cards are also a valid. - about the train: regional train on this region called now “Zou” and his name will replace “ter”. In a few month this line will be opereted by a private operator, Transdev, instead of SNCF. Will be the first time in France that a line has a new operator,

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Afaik, Transdev aren't taking over the route until 2025

[@johnmehaffey9953]

When I saw the second class seats I immediately thought of the old Citroen cars their seats were that blue colour when they began to fade

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Haha yeah 😂😂😂

[@jirivalenta6382]

Nice video! Liked it. Have you traveled by a fuxing hao in China?

[@NonstopEurotrip]

I've not been to china, yet!

[@tonguepiercing]

The French government finally approved in 2020 a serious upgrade plan for this line. There are 4 phases, the works on phase 1 will start in 2023. Its a multitude of new alignments, and adding some stretches of 4 tracks instead of 2. There will also be major capacity works at the Marseille station. In phases 3-4 there will also be some new stretches of line. All of this should increase capacity to about 6 trains per hour per direction, and a travel time reduction of up to 20 minutes. The total cost of the project is 14.5 billion euros. No end date has been confirmed. The goal is NOT to turn this line into a real highspeed line.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

And a new operator, I hear 🙉🇨🇵

[@alexanyanEVN]

Respect from Armenia

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Thank you 🙏🏻

[@tristan8184]

wich app are u using to know the kilometers per hour ?

[@NonstopEurotrip]

It's just called 'GPS Speedo' on Android 👍🏻

[@tristan8184]

@@NonstopEurotrip Thanks !

[@felixonrails]

Wonderful trip review! Is there a way to figure out when the trip can be done in a loco hauled train rather than an EMU?

[@NonstopEurotrip]

At the time of filming, I believe all the 'fast' services were these sets 👍🏻

[@christophernoble6810]

Loco hauled trains will be around for a good few years yet in France, so don’t write them off.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

True yes, but they are disappearing more by the day!

[@MrZosh]

Great video and a beautiful area. I would pay an extra fee for a ride with a Nez Casse Loco hauled train :)

[@NonstopEurotrip]

You and me both! 😃

[@cesareovilloria6788]

Lo prodigioso de este tren es la maquina de arrastre que es está construída en los ochenta y q presta servicio hoy. A esto se llama un buen rendimiento en el tiempo.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

¡Estoy completamente de acuerdo!

[@darrenclark7883]

The full price fare does seem pricey on the face of it, but still relatively cheap compared to UK rail where it can cost £8 (€9) to travel 13 miles (20km) from My town in Surrey into London… so comparatively the French cost isn’t too bad. Love the French trains though (last trip was from Avignon to Paris) and can’t wait to get back to the Côté d’Azur!. Merci pour ta vidéo! (Correct French?… 😬) 🇫🇷🥰

[@NonstopEurotrip]

I wouldn't know, I'm English 😉

[@C1710]

Is this the line that SNCF will probably lose to Transdev?

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Yes!

[@ralasamafifi]

what speed app do you use ?

[@NonstopEurotrip]

GPS Speedo on Android

[@carlonardi8534]

Cnt ubderstand why u dont move the captions on top od video.. on bottmo there are logos and controlsimbols of pc operating system and vidoe ocntrols DIDNT U REALIZE>?

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Don't know what you mean.... Sorry.

[@carlonardi8534]

SIMPLY I MEAN THA T CAPTIONS ON LOWER SCREEN ARE HARDLY READABLE WHILE ONTOP OF SCREEN WOULD BE EASIER

[@NonstopEurotrip]

No one else has a problem with it.

[@buzzukfiftythree]

The fare structure in France (and the UK for that matter) is bonkers!

[@NonstopEurotrip]

True yeah 😂

[@wendyamsterdam8482]

The time schedules too. One train in the early morning out and then a few in late afternoon to go back. I’m used to a train service that runs at least once per half hour everywhere, every day (NS)

[@hypernewlapse]

Soon this will be operated by Omneo Premium trains, run by Transdev, a private company

[@NonstopEurotrip]

With units? :(

[@tomaspalisek4824]

Cool to publish this video several days after of annouce that SNCF will end at this line and will be replaced by Transdev. :-)

[@NonstopEurotrip]

I know, and it was totally by accident 🤣

[@nw5835]

I loved the old Corail coaches with the comfy seats, vastly superior to UK.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Oh definitely, like armchairs 😂

[@davemonro1990]

You comment on the prices on these trains, BUT have you ever compared them to the prices in Britain which are the most expensive in the whole of Europe, and the most inefficiently run?

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Yes, UK railways can be expensive on walk-ups, but that's the same in France, Spain, Italy, etc and at least they have 300kmh+ lines.

[@lettrem7841]

In morocco they still use those locos

[@NonstopEurotrip]

And Portugal 🇵🇹

[@danicornea]

I give a friendly advice: Try not to insist so much about money....try to enjoy life as it is...If not you wiil not see the forest because of the trees...

[@NonstopEurotrip]

I don't, I only mention it and give opinion if its good value, or not...

[@itsmetaran]

Regular tickets are overpriced to the point of being exorbitant ... fantastic trip though. Thanks!

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Completely agree ☺️👍🏻

[@Snug-the-Joiner]

Much prefer the view towards the sea side of the train

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Of course 😺

[@jirivalenta6382]

That legroom in 2nd class is horrible. Oof

[@NonstopEurotrip]

It's not great!

[@marcomc9233]

aaaaaaah porte cabine de la bb 22000 n’est pas là siennes......

[@NonstopEurotrip]

vraiment?

[@marcomc9233]

@@NonstopEurotrip oui du moins elle provient d’une 22000 grise avec bande orange tout au tour

[@PlanesandTrainsNL]

Its a 'Nice' video

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Thanks 😊

[@PlanesandTrainsNL]

@@NonstopEurotrip no problem

[@paddybm3245]

That second class legroom is a disgrace

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Lol yeppp 😂

[@RedArrow73]

Such SHEEPLE!!!

[@Oakleaf700]

Oh those ghastly looming ''apartments'' are so out of place! ...Simply hideous. Our family have a small holiday house overlooking the sea at Dramont {since 1988} and this is the ugliest development..So huge, looming and unsympathetic. Also blocks the sea view for those unfortunate to be behind them.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

Ah yes, that's sad! 😭

[@Oakleaf700]

@@NonstopEurotrip Back in 1990-ish , my young son and I were returning from Villefranche Sur Mer to Dramont, and there was a horrible scream from where the trains run along the beach near Cannes. I saw horrified children running outside, the face of one boy indelible etched on my memory since then... Children had been playing ''Chicken'' across the railway track in front of the trains. And one poor child was hit. The train, naturally was delayed, and there was an announcement in French I didn't catch, but the few people in our compartment got off at the next station. Then the train, instead of carrying on to Dramont, went into those sidings at Cannes la Bocca..With me stuck on the train with son...and doors locked. I banged on the door and a fortunately a Railway worker let us out and escorted us safely over the maze of tracks to safety. He said the little boy was: ''Kaput. Fini. No more''. I remember his upset face. and of course, the poor Train driver... It would not be easy to ever recover from that. ..A tragedy for sure.

[@NonstopEurotrip]

That's really sad! 😭