Logic and the Christian Faith | Astronomy Reveals Creation and Q&A | Dr. Jason Lisle

[@SongOfSongsOneTwelve]

I fell asleep and this video started to play. In my dream, I went into a cafe and met a man behind the counter who was very friendly. After I started to settle in, I couldn’t find my credit card. The man who had been speaking came to me and put his arm around me and I instantly felt his love for me. He was talking to my friends who had come in to check on me and all the while was saying the things Jason was saying, in Jason’s voice, and he kept his arm firmly around me. It was so comforting to feel loved and claimed. I stopped looking for my credit card because I knew “Jack” (that’s what his name tag said) would take care of all of my needs. It isn’t amazing how even in our sleep God is for us? ❤

[@RobertFurrow]

Amen

[@RobertFurrow]

Thanks Debbie ;-)

[@ChildOfKingJesus57]

That is really something. I had a similar experience. I fell asleep at the start of this I think, or it started while I slept. My husband and I were resting on our bed and he came in the room and was telling us all this. I remember trying to ask a question but, he kept talking over me. That would normally be frustrating and make me feel annoyed but, I didn't. His voice was so loving and kind, so I decided to just listen. Now I had one ear bud in, in my right ear and while we slept my husband was on my left side. So eventually I felt, oh, this nice man telling us thimgs of the Lord has laid down on my right side. And I thought, oh that is odd but, he is just teaching us about God and he is so loving so I relaxed and we laid there listening to him. I really thought, "What a kind loving voice and way of speaking, everything is okay." God did give me a peace even in my dream that it was okay to listen to him. How funny that you too fell asleep and listen to him as well. God bless this man of God and God bless you too.✝️🕊🙏🏻☘

[@theresa42213]

SongOfSongsOneTwelve ~ This is an amazing comment ans SO relatable. ln sleep emotions are soooo intense. Sweet dreams of Jesus's love for us are no accident. May The Lord Bless you and Keep you. :)

[@Corbinstruckshots]

My uncle introduced me to this man's work and I am glad he did.

[@RobertFurrow]

Amen

[@JOinLC351]

@tmock0327 You should call your uncle and ask him why he would mislead you in this way. This guy is a nutcase.

[@juniperabbott2614]

ya, found him in my friend's truth links

[@JOinLC351]

Oh my dear. Stop drinking the kool aide. I wish you could step back from the lies of the church and see it for what it really is. The only way a person can believe these fantastical and wholly impossible tales is by embracing the lies you are forced to believe in your religion. All religions are nothing but cults. Some just happen to have more members than others. That doesnt make them any more believable or true. Christianity and Islam are no different than the People's Temple. @@juniperabbott2614

[@JonathanMyron]

@@JOinLC351 how is he a nutcase?

[@andrewthomas6312]

It's so important to approach the topic of logic. There's no where near enough of this being taught.

[@RobertFurrow]

Thanks

[@manager0175]

I agree. If one studies logic extensively (as I have), you would find that there is no necessary correlation of any logical conclusion and truth. Which destroys all logical apologetics. Just because you have a valid conclusion drawn from sound premises, is no guarantee the conclusion is true. Only that the conclusion is necessarily drawn from the premises. This is the difference between "true" and "truth functionally true"..

[@iamshredder3587]

​@@manager0175yeah Ok lol. Literally anything to cling on to your God-hatred and love of sin.

[@manager0175]

@@iamshredder3587 Apparently you did not get the memo, I am Christian.

[@robertramsey653]

​@@manager0175you certainly dont sound like one.

[@adriennedunne1748]

I love Jason Lisle. He's competent in his topic, compassionate, and really connected to God. He's a genuinely decent guy. I always enjoy and learn by his talks.

[@RobertFurrow]

Thanks

[@FranciscoPereira-zo1qt]

I am happy i have come across this gentleman i often wondered the fantastic system God has created this Vast Universe it is very difficult to fathom His Intelligence.

[@RobertFurrow]

Right!

[@valerieprice1745]

Brilliant presentation.

[@RobertFurrow]

Glad you liked it!

[@lebogangncongwane4298]

Psalms 103:12 [12]As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us. This verse is so underrated that I never heard other people using it to prove a globe earth.

[@RobertFurrow]

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[@bradpeterson9325]

Marvelously enlightening this.

[@RobertFurrow]

Thanks

[@pammckanna4778]

Thank you, this was fascinating.

[@RobertFurrow]

Thanks

[@RedefineLiving]

Thanks for uploading this. I enjoy listening to Dr. Lisle. For the critics, science requires preconditions that your non-biblical worldview can’t account for. You are borrowing from the God you pretend doesn’t exist.

[@RobertFurrow]

Well said!

[@316bonnie1]

THANK YOU 🙏

[@RobertFurrow]

You are so welcome

[@mauricioariera200]

Dr. Lesli what a great aproach to seek for the glory of god. Logic and astronomy and once I knew he was a disciple of Dr. Greg Bahnsen I understood it all. 🤯

[@RobertFurrow]

Nice, yes he does

[@philhart4849]

"what a great aproach to seek for the glory of god" God is a fiction. Dr. Lesli is flaunting his irrationality.

[@mauricioariera200]

@@philhart4849 thanks for your comment, but is just that, a comment with no back up. He definitely presented a logical, well articulated defense. Perhaps if you send me an article to read or another video or a debate to look at, I would definitely take a look at it.

[@PhilHart-j9y]

@@mauricioariera200 "a comment with no back up." All things are fictions unless and until falsifiable evidence for their existence is presented. Think of phlogiston. The same applies to all gods, including the God of the Bible.

[@astroza_science]

Hi, what is the music at 2:23:00? tried shazam but it didn't picked it up. Btw, loved the video, as a physics-trained young man, this topic has been important to me, I'll definitely be reading more of Dr. Jason.

[@RobertFurrow]

Thanks, I'm not sure what the music is, glad you enjoyed his teaching

[@NoelRayland]

" Heart Shaped Box" by Apple One

[@dharmaambesa2730]

Very good lecture and teaching

[@RobertFurrow]

Thanks for liking

[@walkergarya]

No, a "good lecture and teaching" is not full of lies and pseudoscience.

[@mulg1]

Have you reasoned as to why your reformers threw out St. James' Epistle? Why has it not been restored? Could it be that it speaks of the importance of good works? Can a man go to Heaven without good works? Are you in danger of Rationalism?

[@cindiloowhoo1166]

I love your presentation here & will look for more. Also just bought your book re Intro to Logic, despite the fact I have Amazon Prime & had to pay shipping anyway 😉. However, I currently do not see that sentient life on Earth is incompatible with that possibility on unknown other worlds. Perhaps those planetary beings behaved and did not eat of the proverbial fruit of the tree as directed…. I do not see this as necessarily mutually exclusive… Billions and Billions of Galaxies were created in an ever-expanding Universe for what purpose? Also, what in your opinion is/was God’s purpose in creating the other planets in our solar system? Must they exist in some fashion to make The Earth do it’s cosmic thing?

[@RobertFurrow]

Thanks

[@marionchase-kleeves8311]

I'm certain there is life on other planet systems in the universe. They are just smart enough to STAY AWAY from this crazy planet and it's human inhabitants

[@lurlenetrout1825]

Check out 10 of the top scientific facts in the bible!

[@alantasman8273]

The similarities between demonic and alien encounters is stark. They include telepathy, levitation, the ability to walk through walls, missing time, the ability to defy God's know laws of physics, mutilation, sexual molestation and others. Books on the occult dating back hundreds of years picture demons as those called Grey aliens today. Many who have called on Jesus during such alien encounters have seen the alien entities flee.

[@alantasman8273]

Genesis and elsewhere in the Bible it states that God being the Word...made the universe and everything therein in six literal days. God did not rest for millions or billions of years on day seven. God made man on day six along with all the land animals. The Bible states the genealogy from Adam to the birth of Jesus giving life spans of his progenitors. We therefore know from that Bible that creation took place some 6000 years ago. Did God create aliens along with mankind?....not according to the Biblical record. We do know that there was a rebellion among Angels in Heaven against God. That fallen angels interfered with the development of Gods special creation mankind. Logic would dictate that those fallen angels may be the alien intrusions we are seeing.

[@davidgardner863]

Lisle says that “To be rational is to have good self-consistent reasons for our beliefs”, yet he makes up reasons for his belief such as the one way speed of light.

[@RobertFurrow]

Thanks

[@JonathanMyron]

I would like to see some backup for these claims, such as the claim that he “makes up reasons” . And as far as I’m concerned nobody can objectively measure the one-way speed of light without first assuming it. That’s why it’s a convention you also use a convention, just not the same one as him.

[@davidgardner863]

@@JonathanMyron , As a young earth creationist he like all creationists start with the Bible as a given fact. That is his motivation for inventing his theory Science doesn’t work that way. Real science first collects evidence, has it peer reviewed where faults are searched for, and if none are found, a hypothesis is formed. When evidence is overwhelming, it becomes a theory. Lisle does none of that.

[@JonathanMyron]

@@davidgardner863 we start with the Bible as a given fact because it’s provable. Every time the experts of the day said something contrary to the Bible, the Bible has always been right. Before we discovered the expansion of the universe, the Bible has talked about the expansion way before it was discovered. This is one of many examples why the Bible is provable. If you read the Bible and study science than you will see that the Bible is never wrong.

[@davidgardner863]

@@JonathanMyron , On the contrary, everything in Genesis and most of the Old Testament is proven wrong. Funny you should mention the expansion of the universe because that’s evidence for the Big Bang 13.8 billion years ago. Of course it’s all the way you interpret the meaning.

[@vgrof2315]

Well, I'll say this for him, he's got the innocuous, Christian smile down pat.

[@judynotestine7003]

I knew there was a reason I get terrifically bored with non-Christian TED talks. They frown constantly.

[@christopherv9427]

What's the point of creation if there is no one to enjoy it. This was a relief, wasn't a lost cause.

[@RobertFurrow]

Thanks

[@cuz_i_sedso9574]

Did he discuss the firmament? I didnt hear it in the second hour or the Q&A.

[@RobertFurrow]

I Don't know

[@djsarg7451]

Biblical Hebrew has no word for universe, in the Bible “heaven and the earth” is always used to talk about the complete universe. “Firmament” is used in the King James Version a old (1,500) translation? Modern translations do not use this: Genesis 1:7 “And God made the expanse and separated the waters that were under the expanse from the waters that were above the expanse.” This is talking about what we now call the water cycle. The use of the world “firmament” in Genesis 1:8 is a carryover from the Latin firmamentum of the Vulgate. Genesis was written in Hebrew, the original Hebrew word is raqiya. This should be translated “expanse, sky, space, horizon”. Some translated this a vault. Genesis was written in Hebrew, which as limited vocabulary. Day is not the same as 24 hours, not in the past and not today. The earth is not 6,000 years old and the Bible does not teach this. Hebrews 4:9-10: "There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his." This tells us that the 7th day has not ended. Thus day 7 is a long time span, thus day 1 to 6 must be a long time span. Each believer are to enter into day 7. Also there no "evening and morning" for the 7th day. As day 7 as not ended. Biblical Hebrew has a limited vocabulary, with fewer words compared to other languages, such as English or Spanish. This means words often have multiple meanings determined by context. Day - yom is commonly rendered as day in English translations, but the word yom can be used in different ways to refer to different time spans thus literally is: Sunrise to sunset Sunset to next sunset Time period of unspecified length. (long time span ). We use the word day the same today: In my grandfather’s day cars did not go very fast. Deuteronomy 33:15 and Habakkuk 3:6 "ancient mountains". The events of day 6 can not have happened in 24 hours. Have you entered into the 7th as Hebrews 4:9-10 asks you to?

[@tonyabrown7796]

So Shroedingers cat breaks the law of noncontradiction. I could never understand why people thought it was valid.

[@ViaGoldenGate]

How can I get a copy of Dr Lisle’s slides?

[@RobertFurrow]

Sorry, not sure, try contacting him?

[@WhereTwoWaysMet]

“If materialism is true, you shouldn’t believe it, because there would be no such thing as logic, therefore, there would be no logical reason to believe it!” 🤯

[@RobertFurrow]

Thanks

[@manager0175]

You are misreading what materialism is and what logic is. To be sure, I contend that materialism is the most naïve and irrational of beliefs. Logic is not some set of principles that all reality adheres to. Logic is an extracted model of some subset of existence or reality. Nothing more.

[@WhereTwoWaysMet]

@@manager0175 What you've just written is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought, and everyone in these comments are now dumber for having read it.

[@jamesjaudon8247]

If it takes us 250 million to orbit our galaxy one time . The spiral winding numbers must be off in your video.

[@scottdemoor49]

So how did we solve the kyper belt Radiation problem? Oh it's still a problem? I thought we went to the moon?

[@RobertFurrow]

Thanks, I will forward this to him

[@djsarg7451]

Day is not the same as 24 hours, not in the past and not today. The earth is not 6,000 years old and the Bible does not teach this. Hebrews 4:9-10: "There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his." This tells us that the 7th day has not ended. Thus day 7 is a long time span, thus day 1 to 6 must be a long time span. Each believer are to enter into day 7. Also there no "evening and morning" for the 7th day. As day 7 as not ended. Biblical Hebrew has a limited vocabulary, with fewer words compared to other languages, such as English or Spanish. This means words often have multiple meanings determined by context. Day - yom is commonly rendered as day in English translations, but the word yom can be used in different ways to refer to different time spans thus literally is: Sunrise to sunset Sunset to next sunset Time period of unspecified length. (long time span ). We use the word day the same today: In my grandfather’s day cars did not go very fast. Deuteronomy 33:15 and Habakkuk 3:6 "ancient mountains". The events of day 6 can not have happened in 24 hours. Have you entered into the 7th as Hebrews 4:9-10 asks you to?

[@rocketscientisttoo]

Scientific materialism - isn't that what the Sadducees believed? It just goes to show that some things never change.

[@RobertFurrow]

Thanks

[@hb.kunste8931]

Alieneware for serious astrophysicists!

[@ByGraceThroughFaith777]

I see plasma everywhere 😊

[@RobertFurrow]

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[@christophesutter1844]

Alléluia 🔥💜🔥

[@RobertFurrow]

Amen

[@somenygaard]

I find it fascinating the God likely created infinite space and stars/planets in hours.

[@RobertFurrow]

Right!

[@djsarg7451]

No, Day is not the same as 24 hours, not in the past and not today. The earth is not 6,000 years old and the Bible does not teach this. Hebrews 4:9-10: "There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his." This tells us that the 7th day has not ended. Thus day 7 is a long time span, thus day 1 to 6 must be a long time span. Each believer are to enter into day 7. Also there no "evening and morning" for the 7th day. As day 7 as not ended. Biblical Hebrew has a limited vocabulary, with fewer words compared to other languages, such as English or Spanish. This means words often have multiple meanings determined by context. Day - yom is commonly rendered as day in English translations, but the word yom can be used in different ways to refer to different time spans thus literally is: Sunrise to sunset Sunset to next sunset Time period of unspecified length. (long time span ). We use the word day the same today: In my grandfather’s day cars did not go very fast. Deuteronomy 33:15 and Habakkuk 3:6 "ancient mountains". The events of day 6 can not have happened in 24 hours. Have you entered into the 7th as Hebrews 4:9-10 asks you to?

[@jamesranaldijr1932]

If I'm going to study this I'm a study open-minded and optimistically I believe the Bible but when you say you tested brand new rocks from Mount Saint Helens okay brand new rocks molten from what age materials? Isn't that a valid question if you have an age on the molten material wouldn't that not necessarily be a brand new Rock brand new rock from what age building materials

[@RobertFurrow]

Thanks

[@cindiloowhoo1166]

How are “acts of God” nature part of His nature? A way to “keep spanking” humanoids for original sin?

[@RobertFurrow]

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[@williamback6154]

Logic,let's see here. Why are the stars in the same place night after night for thousands of years. This would be impossible on a spinning globe flying through space at 66 thousand miles per hour. Just asking.

[@RobertFurrow]

lol

[@strongwallers]

Spheres are the shape God used. Has been confirmed a million times.

[@davidgardner863]

They’re not. You have no concept of distance. If you could see an ant 1000 miles away do you think you could see how far it crawled in a day? Actually we can see apparent movement of nearby stars over a few years time.

[@JonathanMyron]

Stars do move, they move when the seasons change, you will not see the same stars as you did 2 months ago, clearly you never study the sky, so this is wrong. Also the reason that we don’t fly of the earth because of its speed is because an object put in motion stays in motion, this is well established physics.

[@marionchase-kleeves8311]

Hubble remained doubtful of the Red Shift having to to with speed of expansion 1:46:23 but rather the speed of photons at the beginning of time. Re ZERO POINT ENERGY.

[@RobertFurrow]

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[@manager0175]

Lisle clearly doesn't know what "inconsistency" is in logic. It is applied to formal logical systems (Logic system L is inconsistent means L yields a contradiction as true.) Euclidian geometry does not have incompatible elements, and yet is inconsistent (yields a contradiction is true).

[@RobertFurrow]

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[@Tracy-Inches]

There is no logic in gravity, it is density and bouncy. Gravity is a theory. Dr. Lisle you know this right?

[@RobertFurrow]

Thanks

[@Tracy-Inches]

@@RobertFurrow You are welcome, I wonder how many fallacies can be found in this video? kzbin.info/www/bejne/pobafn6AbNSqo7Msi=dUAGnOVTTvvAbWsj God bless.

[@jameshale6401]

Petty people are always so sloppy at being neat freaks

[@JonathanMyron]

Gravity itself is not a theory, but the way that we explain it is.

[@Tracy-Inches]

@@JonathanMyron that makes no sense, density and bouncy you can observe and explain. gravity is man made nonsense, similar to a lot of the man made nonsense that jason believes.

[@marionchase-kleeves8311]

1:49:56 Sandwiches on the sea shore? Abraham invented Sandwiches? No wonder Delis are so popular! Ill have my roast beef on rye!

[@RobertFurrow]

lol

[@Gardentrellis]

Speaking of logic lolol…. At 44:10 he starts to say the heart pumps blood but actually the heart is like a vortex chamber and the one doing the work is the liquid - which is the substance - which is the blood, even God said that the life is in the blood and warns us not to drink it. I’m in no way bashing this guy tho, Its pretty clear he has more wisdom than me, but also everyone around the world holds some wisdom different than others, if we all traded certain wisdom we’d all be smart. I only recently started to gather how God has and is ultimate logic - he’s the word - he’s the logos - he is the alpha and omega.

[@RobertFurrow]

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[@richardcrow3042]

Thank you Cesare Borgia son of Rodrigo Borgia

[@RobertFurrow]

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[@rockeshepherd7694]

How come youtube directs me a Flat Earther to this site ?

[@RobertFurrow]

Don't Know

[@tonygarrett7214]

Perhaps it is a place where all delusional and debasers of science eventually convene. Lisle’s futile attempt to shoehorn science into biblical accounts of the cosmos actually excludes the need for an explanation of his chosen god. He studiously avoids an explanation of why he blithely ignores the fact that his god is presented as an indisputable, propositional given. He cannot, with his desperate and wishful thinking, account for the alleged existence of his chosen god. He knows that being pushed to give such an account, should it fail, will completely undermine his project and the lucrative income from his sale of books.

[@djsarg7451]

Day is not the same as 24 hours, not in the past and not today. The earth is not 6,000 years old and the Bible does not teach this. Hebrews 4:9-10: "There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his." This tells us that the 7th day has not ended. Thus day 7 is a long time span, thus day 1 to 6 must be a long time span. Each believer are to enter into day 7. Also there no "evening and morning" for the 7th day. As day 7 as not ended. Biblical Hebrew has a limited vocabulary, with fewer words compared to other languages, such as English or Spanish. This means words often have multiple meanings determined by context. Day - yom is commonly rendered as day in English translations, but the word yom can be used in different ways to refer to different time spans thus literally is: Sunrise to sunset Sunset to next sunset Time period of unspecified length. (long time span ). We use the word day the same today: In my grandfather’s day cars did not go very fast. Deuteronomy 33:15 and Habakkuk 3:6 "ancient mountains". The events of day 6 can not have happened in 24 hours. Have you entered into the 7th as Hebrews 4:9-10 asks you to?

[@RobertFurrow]

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[@klouis1886]

Magnetic fields do not decay with time

[@RobertFurrow]

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[@alexmoreland7938]

Yes they do and it’s measurable.

[@klouis1886]

@alexmoreland7938 They vary but they do not decay at a linear rate. Earths magnetic field hasn’t decayed

[@JonathanMyron]

@@klouis1886 how come we have measured it then? And if you say that we didn’t then provide evidence.

[@klouis1886]

We have measured it but there is no evidence of a linear decay rate. It does fluctuate and has switched poles, but nothing says it is getting significant weaker over time​@JonathanMyron

[@aquillafleetwood4209]

Google, Night Signs, by Aquilla Fleetwood, youtube!

[@RobertFurrow]

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[@soundmman1516]

Neil deGrasse Tyson would have a FIELD DAY with Little Jason!! 😂😂😂

[@RobertFurrow]

Well you just don't know, Neil Degrassi Tyson is a celebrate Scientist. More about selling science than doing it.

[@GregoryJByrne]

These are just the birthing pains of these the climate change end times due to eclipsing our stars magnetic equator 7 times in one rotation of the galactic bulge. 5 loaves crossings complete & 2 apocalyptic fish crossings to go until perigee with the galactic bulge. With 12,000 baskets/years/orbits between 1,000 year crossings. Gobekli tepe was buried by 19 east to west tidal wave deluges spaced 40 years apart when mercury & venus were in conjunction 13-12,000 years ago. Antikythera device was a predictor of he galactic milankovitch climate trends Obliquity eccentricity & apocalypses precession of suns shadow equinoxes when we cross our stars magnetic equator separating the two fermie cells of it's Oort cloud magnetosphere. Jesus even told us about the GALACTIC Milankovitch cycles the cause of our epoch level climate trends as well as precession climate cataclysms. This crossing will be worst than the last because we are closer to perigee with the galactic bulge.

[@RobertFurrow]

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[@tonygarrett7214]

Utter nonsense.

[@Eric-mc6hn]

I'm surprised he believes in mainstream cosmology still. Hmm. He's seens smart I'm sure he'll figure it out 👍

[@RobertFurrow]

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[@ByGraceThroughFaith777]

What cosmology is he supposed to figure out?

[@markb3786]

@@ByGraceThroughFaith777 flat earth, electric universe, stars are holes in black paper. take your choice

[@strongwallers]

Incredible that you would pose these thoughts. Isaac Newton and many other scientists who were believers never reasoned this way. Don’t go backwards.

[@davidgardner863]

Belief in biblical creation overrides all logic. Lisle is truly a waste of education.

[@tomulrich8010]

❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉😅😅😅

[@RobertFurrow]

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[@fitzfitzgerald1249]

The only flaw in your logic is to say it's pretty awesome that we have a computer made of meat no. I would make the computer first and that would also preclude. I'm sorry presume that the computer is more amazing and the brain is less the amazement is not the brain the amazement would be the computer that. Is in a similar tube? Of the brain the computer is not a higher level of functioning the brain is the computer is a lesser level. Just says we can only have a minute reflection of god's brain. The computer has a minute reflection of our brain.

[@RobertFurrow]

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[@davidsobnosky4765]

Where did tbe Bible Come From? The Catholic Church. The Bible presupposes the Truth of The Catholic Church. So its logical that you will become Catholic.

[@RobertFurrow]

The bible did not come form the Catholic Church

[@jessebryant9233]

No it doesn't.

[@djsarg7451]

No it did not. Day is not the same as 24 hours, not in the past and not today. The earth is not 6,000 years old and the Bible does not teach this. Hebrews 4:9-10: "There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his." This tells us that the 7th day has not ended. Thus day 7 is a long time span, thus day 1 to 6 must be a long time span. Each believer are to enter into day 7. Also there no "evening and morning" for the 7th day. As day 7 as not ended. Biblical Hebrew has a limited vocabulary, with fewer words compared to other languages, such as English or Spanish. This means words often have multiple meanings determined by context. Day - yom is commonly rendered as day in English translations, but the word yom can be used in different ways to refer to different time spans thus literally is: Sunrise to sunset Sunset to next sunset Time period of unspecified length. (long time span ). We use the word day the same today: In my grandfather’s day cars did not go very fast. Deuteronomy 33:15 and Habakkuk 3:6 "ancient mountains". The events of day 6 can not have happened in 24 hours. Have you entered into the 7th as Hebrews 4:9-10 asks you to?

[@mynonameyt]

Jason, for a man that believes in no freewill, why would you try to convince anyone of anything. Augustinian/Calvinism is so very wrong. You can only learn it from other Calvinist, not from the Bible.

[@RobertFurrow]

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[@lizh4817]

But the earth is flat 😬

[@RobertFurrow]

lol

[@alexmoreland7938]

Is what the secularists believed even though the Bible said it was a sphere

[@JonathanMyron]

Evidence?

[@philipculver2719]

The power of the gospel is not in logic. Logic is good, but Jesus saves. That is where the power is.that man is a sinner and needs to repent of his sins and believe on Jesus

[@RobertFurrow]

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[@JonathanMyron]

The gospel is logical though. You just claim these things to people and expect them to convert. You need to use logic for everything including the gospel.

[@delicheres]

But there is a monster under the bed 🤷🏻‍♂️you might not see it but there is .

[@jameshale6401]

Monsters can be so small you cant see them with the naked eye and can kill

[@RobertFurrow]

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[@manager0175]

lisle makes a critical mistake (several actually). Because one is not rational, does not necessitate they are irrational. In fact, they can be non-rational (neither rational nor irrational). The same with logic, there is logical, illogical, and non-logical.

[@RobertFurrow]

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[@manager0175]

@@RHE1521 "What time it is?" "Close the door!" Neither statement has rational nor logical truth value (neither true nor false). How about a logical statement and its negation that are both false? #1: All unicorns have 4 legs. (the negation) #2: At least 1 unicorn does not have 4 legs. Clearly, both statements are false because there are no unicorns (this is called existential import). This renders both statements outside logical endeavor. I have plenty more if examples of flaws in the nature of logic if you wish. Let me know if you want more.

[@jaredstark231]

​@manager0175 Wow, excellent breakdown! You have an great way of breaking it down in layman's terms. How about his breakdown of genesis and his case for a young earth? Does he make any mistakes in breakdown of it?

[@manager0175]

@@RHE1521 Those statements are devoid of any LOGICAL meaning. That is to say, they are neither truth functionally true, nor truth functionally false. They are non-logical.

[@manager0175]

@@jaredstark231 Pretty simple. Genesis is not a science book. It was not intended to be a dictation of the biological origins of all species. But if you want something specific; try this: According to Genesis, the sun was not created until day 4. So how long was a "day" prior to day 4? I contend since it cannot specified, it could have been 100 trillion trillion years, or 1 trillionth of a second. Or any fragment in between. Want something else? Try this: According to Genesis Adam was formed from the dust of the ground. Thus, Adam was dust, then formed dust, then a living soul. That is exactly what evolution says humans are. We started out as matter spewed from other stars deposited on Earth, which at some point (somehow) became living, molded by natural causes into lower species, and (somehow) became conscious living souls.

[@manager0175]

"Logic is thinking God's thoughts."? How can we tell "Statement A is God's thoughts." and "Statement B is not God's thoughts."? Lisle just said: " "a science that deals with the principles and criteria of validity of inference and demonstration.." How does he demonstrate when someone is successfully (or unsuccessfully) thinking God's thoughts? He really doesn't know much about logic, clearly.

[@RobertFurrow]

Thanks

[@davidsanwu8732]

@manager0175 The question you’re asking is, “how do we know what is God’s communication vs what’s NOT God’s communication?” One answer to this is prophecy. One of the main reasons God predicts the future in the Bible is to demonstrate to us that it’s really Him that is speaking (Isaiah 46:9-10), because no mere human is able to accurately and consistently predict the future. You have to be outside of time to be able to do that. In other words, God gives us falsifiable evidences that the Bible is from Him, and that encourages us to trust what it says. As one who has studied the Bible to some fair degree, and what it has to say about e.g. the end of the world, I would say it gives us ample reason to trust it as the true Word of God when we look around at the world today. What the Bible has to say about human nature in particular is what REALLY leaves us without excuse. For example, here you are, thinking you’ve outsmarted Lisle and by extension God, by accusing Lisle of a logical fallacy. When in fact, the fallacy is yours, namely begging the question. You assume without demonstration that God and/or God’s thoughts are unknowable by humankind, thus assuming in advance that the Bible is not what it claims to be. You then use the biblical law of non-contradiction (2 Tim 2:13) to accuse Lisle of logical contradiction, which of course is a TRUE contradiction on your part. The same thing happens whenever these sceptics accuse the Bible of being full of contradictions. Unless of course you can prove from something OTHER than the biblical worldview why contradictions are objectively bad? “Everyone knows contradictions are bad!” Well, tell that to the pantheists who believe that all of reality is illusion, and that contrary entities are all around us. The idea of no universal truth contradiction is anchored in the belief that there is one self-consistent Lord of the universe, Whose Word (John 1:1) cannot be “spoken against”, i.e., “contra” - “dicted”. “Well, how is this specific to the Bible? Couldn’t e.g. the god of the Qur’an establish the same law of non-contradiction?” No. The god of the qur’an literally claims to revise his words not infrequently (Surah 2:106), and so the people who make this type of cheap argument are essentially making a plea to ignorance, hoping their target audience don’t know about the claims which are specific to the Bible. Which, you guessed it, is another logical fallacy. In short, you CLAIM to be wise, whereas the Bible called it thousands of years before you were born (see e.g. Romans 1:22). And so even your implied claim that we cannot possibly know what God’s thoughts are, actually ends up as corroboration for the Bible’s claim to be God’s Word! That’s the kind of divine irony I’m here for! But of course the same irony turns on me, because the Bible maintains the self-consistent standard which condemns you AND me (Romans 3:23). We all have a tendency to pick a hypocritical standard which makes us look a whole lot better than we are. But the Bible keeps it real, and is ultimately about the grace of God which All us sinners need. I’d strongly encourage any sincere enquirers to look into it further to find out more about the amazing grace of God. Hope this is somewhat helpful.

[@manager0175]

@@davidsanwu8732 You said "The question you’re asking is, “how do we know what is God’s communication vs what’s NOT God’s communication?” ". That is not the question I am asking. I contend that the only way we know anything about God's thoughts, is the manner in which God has chosen to reveal His thoughts (scripture, the person of Christ, creation, etc). Thus, we can never know with any degree of certainty what is a "reflection of God's thoughts" and what is not. That was my point.

[@manager0175]

@@davidsanwu8732 If you had studied logic formally (college classes), you'd know that there are many different logical systems. Each logical system has its own definition of "identity" and "contradiction". These differing definitions conflict with each other. Thus, "contradiction" and "identity" varies from logical system to logical system. Thus, cannot be "unchanging". Additionally, each logical system as a meta-logical structure that defines how that logical system operates and what kind of statements is implemented in that logical system. Thus, "contradiction and "identity" only has meaning within the confines of that logical system. Thus, "contradiction" and "identity" is neither transcendent not universal. Quad Erat Demonstrantum.

[@manager0175]

@@RHE1521 The metalogical structure is determined by the person that designs it. There is no "objective standard" that determines it. What is required of any logical system is to be consistent, complete and rigorous. Which also varies from logical system to logical system.

[@WhereTwoWaysMet]

Dr. Lisle is the man!!!! Edit: Superman hair curl!😜

[@RobertFurrow]

Right!

[@kathleenking47]

Is he young, or does he have a baby face..he's doing great, taking over Chuck misslers spot I took a lot from chuck, like FIBONACCI SEQUENCE

[@YECBIB]

Love Astrophysicist Dr. Jason Lisle. Have an autographed Book from him .✝️

[@RobertFurrow]

Thanks

[@stevenhird1837]

Nice did he tell you the earths 6000 years.

[@YECBIB]

@@stevenhird1837 You think

[@kathleenking47]

6:47 2+2=2×2 Why is that? Could it be the gospels IDK

[@cmbunkie3]

I do too! He is great

[@Sherrill965]

My poor Pluto...lol don't worry Pluto...you're still a planet to me! LOL I could listen to Jason allllllll day long. I LOVE his lectures. God bless him so much.

[@RobertFurrow]

Thank you

[@lenawagner6405]

Agree with you. Why define on size ? What about on its own trajectory around the sun, like all planets? A moon has two trajectories! Nevermind its size! Why be so discriminatory towards little baby Pluto? Perhaps he is so small because he is the last little dot like a full stop to our solar system!!! Making him hugely important!!!!!

[@hallwest9650]

AMEN brother Lisle !

[@RobertFurrow]

Amen

[@dianetaillon9875]

Thank you and I am very grateful for all the videos of yours that I have watched I do however have a question doesn't certain properties of quantum physics break logic or laws of logic I'm not a scientist but that area of Science fascinatates me and I do watch what is available and I do have to confess some of it I understand and some I don't and quite a bit of it seems to really break logic in quite a bit of it to me hardly seems compatible with what we know of physics

[@RobertFurrow]

Thanks

[@Thebravemovement]

Dr Jason Lisle needs to be a guest on Joe Rogans podcast. Perhaps the first and easier conversation would be with Brian Callen

[@RobertFurrow]

I like it

[@junecheverria4746]

GOD Bless You More, Dr. Lisle! You are imparting wisdom and precious knowledge of the truth!

[@RobertFurrow]

Thanks

[@tracyavent-costanza346]

@1:21 logic is a PROCESS not a science. deductive logic does imply a direct dependency upon premises and inferences and conclusions. inductive logic is somewhat fuzzier but more commonly used and is more or less about prior experiences and educated guesses. neither of the above have anything at all to do with god. they are human-invented disciplines. I do not happen to know if animals use deduction but they do appear to use induction. So using those vehicles has nothing to do with religious belief unless you are claiming to know that cats are christians. notice that the page you put on the overhead display (which I presume to be from some dictionary) DID NOT MENTION GOD nor does it imply anything that this guy has immediately spanned chasms of unstated assumptions to magically assert. nor does he have the vaguest idea how god thinks or whether that thinking has anything to do with how he himself thinks. to presume anything further especially absent any EVIDENCE (and that includes his favorite book) it just exposes his ego not his logic.

[@RobertFurrow]

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[@jameswelsh3433]

Perhaps rational thought is, at least, a major way we are made in the image of God? I don’t know of any other created thing capable of rational thought.

[@RobertFurrow]

Thanks

[@randallhatcher6028]

The Bible says the majority will not believe. It says few there be who find it .

[@RobertFurrow]

Right!

[@iamshredder3587]

Few indeed. Far too few.

[@Legend-mg2ry]

You can write a fictional book and claim that people will soon not buy your BS anymore.

[@randallhatcher6028]

@Legend-m No one is saying you have to buy anything , you or anyone else. You have every right to believe anything you want to . You already have the upper hand as public schools are forcing the religion of atheism at tax payers expense. Christians aren't do that .

[@F15CEAGLE]

The narrow path. Romans 10:9-13.

[@nhoj924lll]

What he explains is that, its allready explained, that is why you have faith in God and his (word) the word of life and there is much more in what he says ; there is a natural meaning and a spiritual meaning now the spiritual meaning takes prayer and patience but god will show you if you seek the answer like its a hidden treasure because it is the glory of God to hide a thing.😶

[@RobertFurrow]

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[@questionsforchristians]

Like an Irrational belief thebearth is a globe. Haha. The earth is flat read your Bible. (And the book of mormon and pearl of great price/book of Abraham, apocryphal book of enoch and jasher

[@RobertFurrow]

Ok

[@Danny-px4oi]

The bible doesnt say the earth is flat The bible mentions the four curners of the earth ...it is not refering to the shape but in fact is refering to the cardinal points

[@Danny-px4oi]

@@unclesalty7778 Isaiah 40: 22 It is he (God) that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, (*turns out the earth is a globe*) and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

[@Danny-px4oi]

@@unclesalty7778 There are 73 Cuz other texts/books that common people think are related to the bible...are actually not cuz they where not written by people choosen by God or those books contradicts the bible

[@Danny-px4oi]

@@unclesalty7778 If u have any other questions about bible you can ask

[@RalfSteffens]

@1:11: "Thus, to think correctly is to think God's thoughts after him." - So far you are right, but that is a non-sequitur: "Rational thinking is biblical thinking." The biblical texts were written by humans long ago. Even if these people were inspired by God, they wrote down words that other people could understand. How can one express God's wisdom in human language? And since then these texts have been copied, translated and thus changed. - So: To understand God I do not rely on the Bible, but on my brain that He gave me.

[@RobertFurrow]

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[@rickallen9167]

Elephants, Tigers and the Unicorn....rainfall, snowfall and angelfall....what you need, what you have and what you want.... Stop me when you get it 🤭

[@RobertFurrow]

Thanks

[@rickallen9167]

​@@RobertFurrowyour welcome, glad you stopped me!

[@djsarg7451]

Day is not the same as 24 hours, not in the past and not today. The earth is not 6,000 years old and the Bible does not teach this. Hebrews 4:9-10: "There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his." This tells us that the 7th day has not ended. Thus day 7 is a long time span, thus day 1 to 6 must be a long time span. Each believer are to enter into day 7. Also there no "evening and morning" for the 7th day. As day 7 as not ended. Biblical Hebrew has a limited vocabulary, with fewer words compared to other languages, such as English or Spanish. This means words often have multiple meanings determined by context. Day - yom is commonly rendered as day in English translations, but the word yom can be used in different ways to refer to different time spans thus literally is: Sunrise to sunset Sunset to next sunset Time period of unspecified length. (long time span ). We use the word day the same today: In my grandfather’s day cars did not go very fast. Deuteronomy 33:15 and Habakkuk 3:6 "ancient mountains". The events of day 6 can not have happened in 24 hours. Have you entered into the 7th as Hebrews 4:9-10 asks you to?

[@brianzane5748]

"No one has ever made a good argument against the Bible" 😂 That's hilarious. Couldn't be farther from the truth.

[@RobertFurrow]

thanks

[@TheRealPureBlood]

Go ahead. Begin.

[@djsarg7451]

Day is not the same as 24 hours, not in the past and not today. The earth is not 6,000 years old and the Bible does not teach this. Hebrews 4:9-10: "There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his." This tells us that the 7th day has not ended. Thus day 7 is a long time span, thus day 1 to 6 must be a long time span. Each believer are to enter into day 7. Also there no "evening and morning" for the 7th day. As day 7 as not ended. Biblical Hebrew has a limited vocabulary, with fewer words compared to other languages, such as English or Spanish. This means words often have multiple meanings determined by context. Day - yom is commonly rendered as day in English translations, but the word yom can be used in different ways to refer to different time spans thus literally is: Sunrise to sunset Sunset to next sunset Time period of unspecified length. (long time span ). We use the word day the same today: In my grandfather’s day cars did not go very fast. Deuteronomy 33:15 and Habakkuk 3:6 "ancient mountains". The events of day 6 can not have happened in 24 hours. Have you entered into the 7th as Hebrews 4:9-10 asks you to?

[@DepletedUrbranium]

He seems so logical and consistent in this talk but I just can't reconcile that with the fact that he believes or even allows for light to travel different speeds when it's reflected. I mean how can reflection even differentiate some preferred direction all light comes from prior energy. I hope he ditches that idea in favor of some solution involving time dilation or length contraction.

[@RobertFurrow]

Thanks

[@jessebryant9233]

Well, if that is your only issue...

[@AnthonyCarrier]

God is probably creating new and more galaxys even as I am typing this and even creating living beings millions of miles away while I am listening to this sermon/podcast...And every now and then checks the garden on earth that he planted wihich includes you and me...!

[@RobertFurrow]

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[@freedomintruth8260]

Can’t prove it curve! There isn’t one. Water ALWAYS finds its level. That’s the facts.

[@RobertFurrow]

Thanks

[@jameshale6401]

Water curves with earth Even if a lake is a 100 miles across and froze it looks perfect level but its not

[@shilohauraable]

Dr Brian May, I don't think he's a Christian, but he helped determine the size of the Milky Way 🌌! Why is this an interesting bit of trivia? Because he is also the lead guitarist for the rock group Queen! He's very adamant that physics (he's an Astrophysicist), math and music are strongly connected in the brain or mind. I do know that music is essentially a universal language (the notes are written the same in all languages), and studying languages and music are the only 2 things that have been proved to actually raise a person's IQ. Just think how often the scriptures mention to sing praises or talk about angels singing praises. It's almost like music might be Heaven's language! Just a wild thought. Carry on. 😊 (BTW - Did you know that the ancient Hebrew alphabet has musical 🎶 tones connected to each letter? Each Psalm has the music embedded in it! You can find the original music for the 23rd Psalm on KZbin. It's Amazing! 💕)

[@RobertFurrow]

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[@rickallen9167]

0:32 "So logic isn't about studying fossils, or..or stars, or DNA.... It's about...it's about studying what logically follows from certain given facts". So basically the premise here is that studying fossils, stars and DNA....or Paleontology, Astronomy and Genetics isn't about reasoning conducted by strict codes of validity. Which, of course, it absolutely...IS! The purpose of logic is as the tool you use to determine the facts, not the other way round. Logic, Astronomy and the Christian faith...lets take a closer look. I've already touched on logic....the arrival of conclusions based on strict codes of validy, not credulity. Astronomy...the study of space, celestial bodies(planets, stars, comets Et cetera)and the physical universe, not pseudo physical or numinousity. And lastly, the Christian faith....the monotheistic belief of Jesus of Nazareth as the messiah, the son of God and his teachings. What cannot be said is that Jesus of Nazareth could not have existed, and that he did not deliver teachings. What also cannot be said is he was the messiah, or the son of God, because of Abrahamic prophecy derived from the Holy Bible, derived from script, derived from the hand(Man). Religion is the premise of promise, the delivery always in transit, the night-light of the night-fearing child, the honey-sweet spoon chasing the bitter expectorant of existence.

[@RobertFurrow]

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[@jillcolvin4196]

Rational thinking requires more than consistency. Rational thinking must be based on truth. A part from truth, all reasoning is irrational.

[@RobertFurrow]

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[@robertfoertsch]

#StationaryLevelEarth

[@RobertFurrow]

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[@YeshuaisnotJesus]

Everyone has evidence of god, yet no one has ever collected any of the world's prizes, no noble prize.

[@RobertFurrow]

Thanks

[@jessebryant9233]

50:50 - The Cloverfield Paradox anyone? 😜

[@RobertFurrow]

Thanks

[@joshuakreher4977]

And the moon talk 50 Sum mins in revealed it for thanks

[@RobertFurrow]

Thanks

[@NoelRayland]

Would an example of an inconsistent belief be telling others to love their enemies while you intend to torment yours in Hell for eternity?

[@RobertFurrow]

Thanks

[@Plushh.]

That isn't the Christ's intent, the occurring of the incarnation quite literally substantiates that . People get themselfs to hell via the usage of their own free volition

[@marionchase-kleeves8311]

Why do I see craters as bubbles? It takes a while to persuade my mind to see craters instead of bubbles

[@RobertFurrow]

thanks

[@djsarg7451]

Day is not the same as 24 hours, not in the past and not today. The earth is not 6,000 years old and the Bible does not teach this. Hebrews 4:9-10: "There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his." This tells us that the 7th day has not ended. Thus day 7 is a long time span, thus day 1 to 6 must be a long time span. Each believer are to enter into day 7. Also there no "evening and morning" for the 7th day. As day 7 as not ended. Biblical Hebrew has a limited vocabulary, with fewer words compared to other languages, such as English or Spanish. This means words often have multiple meanings determined by context. Day - yom is commonly rendered as day in English translations, but the word yom can be used in different ways to refer to different time spans thus literally is: Sunrise to sunset Sunset to next sunset Time period of unspecified length. (long time span ). We use the word day the same today: In my grandfather’s day cars did not go very fast. Deuteronomy 33:15 and Habakkuk 3:6 "ancient mountains". The events of day 6 can not have happened in 24 hours. Have you entered into the 7th as Hebrews 4:9-10 asks you to?

[@jamesrice6096]

I knew it!!? About oil. For years I've been saying that I think the earth just makes it.

[@RobertFurrow]

Thanks

[@djsarg7451]

Many years of dead plants. Day is not the same as 24 hours, not in the past and not today. The earth is not 6,000 years old and the Bible does not teach this. Hebrews 4:9-10: "There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his." This tells us that the 7th day has not ended. Thus day 7 is a long time span, thus day 1 to 6 must be a long time span. Each believer are to enter into day 7. Also there no "evening and morning" for the 7th day. As day 7 as not ended. Biblical Hebrew has a limited vocabulary, with fewer words compared to other languages, such as English or Spanish. This means words often have multiple meanings determined by context. Day - yom is commonly rendered as day in English translations, but the word yom can be used in different ways to refer to different time spans thus literally is: Sunrise to sunset Sunset to next sunset Time period of unspecified length. (long time span ). We use the word day the same today: In my grandfather’s day cars did not go very fast. Deuteronomy 33:15 and Habakkuk 3:6 "ancient mountains". The events of day 6 can not have happened in 24 hours. Have you entered into the 7th as Hebrews 4:9-10 asks you to?

[@qazyman]

He figured it out. Amen.

[@RobertFurrow]

Amen

[@marionchase-kleeves8311]

2:02:11 ive been asking this for years. Is the sun decreasing in size? How big would it have been at 1, 2, 3, billion years and at 6000 years.

[@Legend-mg2ry]

It gets bigger and brighter not smaller….

[@RobertFurrow]

Thanks

[@djsarg7451]

Day is not the same as 24 hours, not in the past and not today. The earth is not 6,000 years old and the Bible does not teach this. Hebrews 4:9-10: "There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his." This tells us that the 7th day has not ended. Thus day 7 is a long time span, thus day 1 to 6 must be a long time span. Each believer are to enter into day 7. Also there no "evening and morning" for the 7th day. As day 7 as not ended. Biblical Hebrew has a limited vocabulary, with fewer words compared to other languages, such as English or Spanish. This means words often have multiple meanings determined by context. Day - yom is commonly rendered as day in English translations, but the word yom can be used in different ways to refer to different time spans thus literally is: Sunrise to sunset Sunset to next sunset Time period of unspecified length. (long time span ). We use the word day the same today: In my grandfather’s day cars did not go very fast. Deuteronomy 33:15 and Habakkuk 3:6 "ancient mountains". The events of day 6 can not have happened in 24 hours. Have you entered into the 7th as Hebrews 4:9-10 asks you to?

[@JL-vx1rb]

i have faith

[@RobertFurrow]

Nice!

[@nagatakazu3994]

Good 🇹🇹

[@RobertFurrow]

Amen

[@MrDjhealth]

Is Dr. Jason Lisle KJV only? Or does he believe the KJV is the most accurate Bible?

[@RobertFurrow]

Not Sure

[@strongwallers]

God, I hope he is not that narrow.

[@djsarg7451]

He does not read the whole Bible. Day is not the same as 24 hours, not in the past and not today. The earth is not 6,000 years old and the Bible does not teach this. Hebrews 4:9-10: "There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his." This tells us that the 7th day has not ended. Thus day 7 is a long time span, thus day 1 to 6 must be a long time span. Each believer are to enter into day 7. Also there no "evening and morning" for the 7th day. As day 7 as not ended. Biblical Hebrew has a limited vocabulary, with fewer words compared to other languages, such as English or Spanish. This means words often have multiple meanings determined by context. Day - yom is commonly rendered as day in English translations, but the word yom can be used in different ways to refer to different time spans thus literally is: Sunrise to sunset Sunset to next sunset Time period of unspecified length. (long time span ). We use the word day the same today: In my grandfather’s day cars did not go very fast. Deuteronomy 33:15 and Habakkuk 3:6 "ancient mountains". The events of day 6 can not have happened in 24 hours. Have you entered into the 7th as Hebrews 4:9-10 asks you to?

[@manager0175]

"To be Rational" and "To be logical" are not the same things.. He is wrong to associate them.

[@RobertFurrow]

Thanks

[@paulmerritt2484]

It is rational to have good reason to believe something and that works well when we think logically. Logic is based on truth. These definitely go together.

[@manager0175]

@@paulmerritt2484 Logic is not based upon truth. It is based upon extracted models of the world around us. Consider this: #1. If the Moon is made of green cheese, then 2+2=4. #2. The Moon is made of green cheese. #3. Therefore, 2+2=4. That is a valid proof (or inference). However, that validity is not based upon truth. It is based only upon the fact that the conclusion necessarily follows from the premises. Nothing more.

[@manager0175]

@@paulmerritt2484 You said: "It is rational to have good reason to believe something and that works well when we think logically." That may well be so. However, having rational (or logical) reason to believe something, does not guarantee that it is true.

[@righterreeder]

@@manager0175that doesn’t make logical sense so I reason that your words are nonsensical or a word salad.

[@cindiloowhoo1166]

Just what DID happen to the dinosaurs 🦕 🦖??? Guessing they weren’t on The Ark???

[@RobertFurrow]

Yes, I think so

[@Legend-mg2ry]

It’s not just dinosaurs. It’s more than 99% of species that ever lived on earth never made it to the ark or survived lmao this 6k year old earth bs falls apart.

[@alexmoreland7938]

Why do you think they weren’t on the ark? Of course they were

[@davidgardner863]

@@alexmoreland7938, Are you referring to birds?

[@JonathanMyron]

The world wide flood ended dinosaurs. Read genesis

[@IIrandhandleII]

The Bible is a flat earth book.

[@RobertFurrow]

OK

[@IIrandhandleII]

@@Mario_Sky_521 sphere.... that's amazing I've never read that. Which verse is it? Daniel 4:10-11. In Daniel, the king "saw a tree of great height at the centre of the earth...reaching with its top to the sky and visible to the earth's farthest bounds. How do you see everything from a very tall mountain or tree? I'll give you a hint...flat. also how does a sphere have a center on its surface? Hint....It doesn't. The Bible is a flat earth book but that's not the only mythology found in the Bible. Many many examples of mythology are found in holy books not just the Bible!

[@JonathanMyron]

@@IIrandhandleII I believe this is a metaphor.

[@IIrandhandleII]

@@JonathanMyron I see, so some things are metaphors. Adam and eve, Samsons magical hair, magic potions in the old testament are also metaphors?

[@JonathanMyron]

@@IIrandhandleII I did not say all of the Old Testament is all a metaphor. You can know something is a metaphor when you see poetic writing, the verse you cited is written in a very poetic manner. Adam and Eve is not written in a poetic manner. Also read Job 26:10 it speaks of the boundary between light and darkness on a circle, the boundary between light and darkness is what scientists call the terminator, this is where evening and morning are constantly happening, the only circular shape that can have a terminator is a sphere.

[@jamescassel9615]

The capacity of knowledge and understanding of our amazing and awe inspiring Creator is without equal. Our existence, being temporary gives each of us little time to do the will of our Maker. Sometimes we are too caught up in our own existence. Life should be about learning and following the instructions given by our Wonderful Creator. It is a great responsibility and a privilege for those who will hear and obey. Believing in the words we’ve heard or read, that the Son of YHWH came into His creation to give His very life, that all who would repent and believe, believing with an inward knowledge that we must become as Yeshua is and believe that He is the only door to the Father.

[@RobertFurrow]

Thanks

[@klouis1886]

If you use the supernatural it is no longer science

[@RobertFurrow]

Thanks, that not the only thing that make what people call science not Science. Very little of what people call science is actual science.

[@jayveespencer]

Science is the search for truth, where ever that search may lead. If that search leads to the supernatural, it is still science by definition. In fact, reverence for God is the beginning of knowledge. If one rules God out at the beginning you end up with foolishness.

[@klouis1886]

@jayveespencer I disagree. Science deals with natural causes and events. If you add the supernatural, it is no longer science

[@kathleenking47]

@@RobertFurrow evolutionary theory is science falsely so called The more j study bible, the more I see science & math connect Our schools aren't good, ir rkse, we wouldn't see a version of THE EMPERORS NEW CLOTHES Tale...(LGBTQ) especially transgenderism

[@manager0175]

You said "If you use the supernatural it is no longer science". You are correct. As Dr. Francis Collins said "Science is the discovery of the natural world.' Not the supernatural world.

[@HomeInspectorCoreyLambrecht]

Interesting that in this lecture on astronomy , he left off the 5th one: the distant starlight problem.

[@RobertFurrow]

Thanks Corey

[@stevenanderson101]

He has discussed it thoroughy on many other videos on YT.

[@codyb4016]

He does talk about this in another video. If I remember correctly, his argument is that we don’t know the one way speed of light. Not only do we not know, we can’t know. Physicist have been trying to solve it for nearly a hundred years. It’s impossible to know. So basically, he argues that the light from the stars reaches us instantaneously. If we reflect that light back to star, it would take billions of years to reach it. I’m probably not doing his argument any justice. He explains it far better than I can. I suggest searching g for it.

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It's not a problem. God created everything in a supernatural realm where the cosmos resides.

[@jaredstark231]

​@@codyb4016spot on!