Lone Survivor | Navy SEAL Breaks Down Lone Survivor-Part 1: Soft Compromise

[@BEERFEST07]

I always wondered why not keep the herders restrained and move to the peak with them. Yeah, it would be slower, but they were already having coms issues, and there's no guarantee coms would work any better at the peak. At least by bringing the herders with them, they would eliminate the risk of them notifying the Taliban of their presence before establishing coms. Then once they established coms to coordinate the exfil, they could decide when and where to cut the herders loose, giving the team the best odds of getting out safely.

[@notoriousviolator5111]

I was thinking same thing

[@JokersWild70]

I hadn't thought of that either. Seems like a solid plan though.

[@erwinlizardi3162]

It's a good idea but they would've still been ambushed, the Taliban had heard them infil and found the fast rope they used.They then tracked them down and ambushed them with a 8 man team

[@iliketocode6986]

Im guessing there must of been a reason they couldnt do that =/ or maybe they just messed up damn I wonder what really happened

[@forevermarked5826]

It's been confirmed that the Taliban knew they were there. The goat herders didnt blow their cover. They heard the helicopter drop the seals off. There is footage that was found by the Taliban hunting them. You can hear the guys calling for each other! But yeah the Taliban heard the helicopter and knew Americans were there and began recording

[@temetnosce17]

"ALWAYS fear an old man in a young man's game." Best frogman overview of Lone Survivor that I've seen yet.

[@frogmantactical]

Thank you for the words. Much appreciated. Have a great day and God bless.

[@frogmantactical]

Thank you! Be blessed

[@temetnosce17]

@@frogmantactical Thank you, I feel that this is the most appropriate time to watch Lone Survivor tonight.

[@CallSignWhiplash]

I’m former Army LRSD Comms retired in Louisiana. The obvious mistake was letting the kid go rather than the old man. The old man would have taken a month to get off the mountain leaving plenty of time for extraction. The Sat Comm shown was a Globalstar handheld. The sat radio antennas sucked ass and were unreliable. GlobalStar had actual Satellite Antenna problems at the time, a bird actually burned out and they were trying to launch more into space but were suffering delays. The result was a low channel to subscriber ratio and thus low reliability. I was cringing knowing this and can’t believe the logistics support group didn’t have a HF Comms relay station setup in support.

[@coltbenbow5830]

So you think they should have killed the kid or tied him up and left him or brought him along ? Common man how can you judge their decision especially being a part of the military you should know that any decision they made was what they thought the best option was at the time! It’s easy to look back now and say it’s the wrong one but you shouldn’t judge them you weren’t there!

[@CallSignWhiplash]

Zipped Cuffed. My opinion is my own and typical of that which came out in debrief. I’m pretty sure this scenario has been studied and incorporated into training. If/when/where I’ve been deployed or what situations I’ve been in isn’t any of your business.

[@Einar74]

This is one of the few times having an Army BDE Colt team running Retrans would have been perfect. Sadly, we were underutilized and went away. We learned this lesson in ‘98 when 10th Group loaned us TACSAT systems. We still hauled around our SINCGARS. If only we cross trained more, maybe the Lutrell’s whole team could have come back.

[@Einar74]

@@frogmantactical Hell Yes!!!

[@frogmantactical]

Unfortunately many units were underutilized. Be blessed.

[@frogmantactical]

There are many units under utilized. The military is jacked up in their decisions. I would appreciate it if you watched some of my other videos. Have a great day and God bless.

[@asianskye503]

Another option: Tie 2 of the herders up. Take one to the exfil. When the chopper is on site release the one and he can go release to two others. I'd take the middle one. Old man might slow you down and the youngest may not yet know his way around. But the teenage/early 20s would be the most likely to try and escape if tied up. Once the team is out he's in no position to give them away. All that being said, the actual timeline seems to give the impression the Taliban were already aware the team was in its AO and were already actively looking for it.

[@urpoeleppajarvi2152]

Personally, before I also wondered how the prisoners were released so easily. Making their movement more difficult would be a good time saver, as Navy Seal said. It was also strange that Patrol stayed waiting for the pursuers. The Finnish army teaches that you only move as fast and as far as possible so that the pursuers get lost your footsteps. Even though they have dogs, dogs tend to get tired before the soldiers, who are in good condition. In the last war against the Russians, Finnish long-range patrols were able to escape the pursuers for almost 2 days (60-80 km), behind enemy lines before starting to rest. In films in such situations, people foolishly hide in a building or a place that attracts attention. If hiding in an unobtrusive place, the person is hard to find. Great analysis

[@fuyu5979]

Awesome analysis of what reality SEAL tactics vs Hollywood version. Was very informative n interesting. Hope to find Part 2. Kudos for upload. Anticipating ur next one.

[@rickm4295]

Its gotta be really hard to make the "right" decision when every fiber in your body says eliminate the threat period. I really like this a ton !!! When is part 2 ?

[@frogmantactical]

Indeed so. So many moving parts and unknowns in those situations and the ultimate decision of what was right and wrong is determined by the outcome. I will be working on Part 2 soon! Have a great day and God bless

[@chemistryofquestionablequa6252]

Not if nobody found out.

[@frogmantactical]

Extremely hard. Morals versus what earthly repercussions will bring. Be blessed

[@MZ-bl6wg]

It’s simply that like he said there are SEALs in Ft Levinworth for stealing trophy guns. The rules of engagement and fear that our soldiers go through of their own military courts putting them away in prison for life if they don’t agree with a kill or didn’t follow the ROE is jsut disgusting. Our military courts tie our soldiers hands behind their backs with ROEs with e enemy’s thst don’t have any, it helps level the playing field which is BS. When a soldier is terrified to kill an enemy becasuse he’s worried about prison it makes them second guess. Not being able to fire on maneuvering enemy armed fighters on your position unless fired upon is the common story of Afgansitan and Iraq. We want our soldiers to do the military thing so we should let them do it as they see fit. 3 sheep herders with a Taliban radio and no comms is a very direct and guaranteed threat of life but as we saw it was fear of reprocussions that Mike Murthy made his decision on thst ultimately took his life , 2 of his team mates and 24 others on the Chinook. If the high ups send in a tier 1 SEAL team of our absolute best to kill a terrorist leader that killed 20 marines that month, they should be able to do their job at whatever means necessary.

[@ppgedez]

Goats and kids seem to be the nemesis of the Special Forces.

[@frogmantactical]

indeed so. Have a great day and God bless.

[@racc8050]

@@frogmantactical how come they didn't tie them up and bring the 3rd one then let them go after they make a plan to leave

[@frogmantactical]

@@racc8050 Theatrics of Hollywood. That’s not what occurred in the real mission. Have a great night and God bless.

[@racc8050]

@@frogmantactical thank you good sir God bless u

[@sharkman5735]

@@frogmantacticalHa and with Pete Berg as the director who usually plays a part in his own bang bang movies….

[@415baby]

This is one of the most informative reactions to a spec ops film. Thanks for the awesomeness! Keep em comin’!

[@frogmantactical]

Thank you. More to come. Have a great day and God bless.

[@gavinsalyer2807]

Just found your channel today after work. You’re a badass man and a lot of people including myself could learn a lot of things from you. This is one of my all time favorite movies along with the patriot! Keep on doing what you’re doing man.

[@ghostlabgaming3765]

This was such a good video, Frogman... And thank YOU for your service good sir, I look up to you with a great deal of respect, gratitude, and amazement. God bless you in the name of Jesus, our Messiah.

[@frogmantactical]

You’re welcome. 🙏

[@mryan2010]

Cover, cover, cover! Go to ground behind cover, assess, and maneuver from there. Got it. Never thought of it that way. Thank you.

[@frogmantactical]

🙏

[@mherendez]

This is awesome. Knowing how close they actually followed seal tactics. Great job Pike breaking it down for us.

[@frogmantactical]

Thank you! Have a great day and God bless

[@jadenwalker2052]

Well if you watch the making of Lone Survivor, Marcus told the guys if they didn't get the movie right he was gonna shoot em.. He wanted it to be accurate. However they had to leave out stuff(if you read the book you know what I'm talking about) because it was just too much for the big screen..

[@MrEd-dc6mh]

I just found this. Thanks for sharing it. I really questioned the movie just because I know our Navy Seals are better than this movie showed. God Bless!

[@adamdaniel6245]

I just watched this last weel for the first time and its a great movie with real American heroes they portrayed. GOD bless these men and the great USA

[@frogmantactical]

It is a very good movie for sure. Have a great day and God bless.

[@Stew357]

I hadn't watched this video. Your analysis was incredible. Ty Jason.

[@ryanbuckley5529]

Suppressor to the back... that makes me cringe every time I see that part! That has to hurt! So much love and Respect for you🙏🏼🇺🇸🙏🏼 ever since I was 5 I’ve been praying for SF guys like you. It’s always nice to see a face of the people I pray for.

[@frogmantactical]

Thank you for the prayers. 🙏

[@leifelliottsofficialmusicc8438]

I really appreciated this a ton…Gives me a real in depth insight and a look at the big picture from a true warrior and hero as yourself 🇺🇸

[@lenanbo1]

Good review brother can’t wait to watch the other parts. God Bless and keep dropping the knowledge

[@frogmantactical]

Thank you. I would appreciate it if you watched some of my other videos. Have a great day and God bless.

[@lenanbo1]

@@frogmantactical oh I will and I follow u on IG as well, we’ve had a couple positive interactions and that’s why I support u brother as a fellow veteran and a Christian God Bless

[@cameronc1509]

Thank God we have the luxury of hindsight. I haven’t read the book, but the movie makes it look like they were doing what they saw as morally right. Marcus Luttrell seems like a true blue, moral guy. From the hours of podcasts and interviews I’ve heard from him, I can see him taking the hard right every time

[@frogmantactical]

Definitely a tough topic but these are the things we learn from. God bless

[@animula6908]

I recently read it, and like most tough decisions it was complicated. The fact they couldn’t fully morally justify it was a crucial part, as was the fact that our culture demands it, but it seems like it was a roiling decision to have to make for all of them, and one even declined to vote at all. I’d have supported them for either decision, and can say I honestly see both as equally justified and it’s only the fact that Christianity makes me value mercy and sacrifice that makes me prouder that they handled it this way than If they’d done the smarter thing

[@cameronc1509]

@@frogmantactical No doubt about that. I’m thankful that we have guys who are willing to train and be put in these situations, who do the hard things that we need done, but probably couldn’t handle ourselves. After all, my toughest decision while deployed was whether or not to eat in our palatial dfac before or after working out in our well equipped gym. At the time I was resentful, but now after seeing this kind of thing, I’m thankful to God for my cupcake deployment. My mom must have been praying forty five minutes out of every hour for him to keep me safe. The way I see it, he honored her prayers and kept me in the corner of a gigantic base where my safety wouldn’t even be in question

[@That1ThatHasIt]

It's a four man team, squad leader and comms head out as a two man team to try and hit the peak and make communications. Two other operatives remaining back to watch the possible threat(s) until proper comms are established. That would be my plan. Great video, frogman.

[@nobody-ly9ef]

Thanks for such a concise explanation.....and, of course, respect to you and every person who chose to serve from a man who was physically disqualified due to vision from serving.

[@frogmantactical]

Thank you for the words. I would appreciate it if you watched some of my other videos. Have a great day and God bless.

[@nobody-ly9ef]

@@frogmantactical of course I will be watching all of your work, and God bless you and yours as well.

[@danschillaci1269]

Awesome breakdown of rural tactics from a pro. Real world vs Hollywood is a big difference. Thanks for your time and expertise Jason!

[@shamrocklaw17]

Great movie, great review brother. Marcus did a great job advising while not revealing tradecraft. As far as the real event goes, Lt was a trained professional, he made the best decision he could with the info he had and they got dealt a shitty hand. That’s how war goes sometimes. Again, great book, great movie, and great review.

[@EsqueJon]

Thank you for setting the record strait. Thank you.

[@frogmantactical]

You're welcome. I would appreciate it if you watched some of my other videos. Have a great day and God bless.

[@mattwalker9107]

Looking through the prism of your experience with them and knowing their mindset, I can definitely understand your inclination to just kill them. But when I first saw this - without having that kind of experience - my thought was I would've taken their shoes and given their toes a good whack....if you've ever stubbed your toe really bad, you know you ain't about to be making good time walking down a mountain, much less running down it. So, they survive, but now you have much more time to get home. Thank you for your service and all the great content you put out. God bless!

[@joshgreen9854]

The quality of this video is great. Super enjoyable to watch

[@frogmantactical]

Thank you. A work in progress. Have a great day and God bless

[@joshgreen9854]

Frogman Tactical you too brother, keep it up!

[@happinesshotel5375]

We all want part two!! I hope you have it done!!

[@frogmantactical]

Part 2 is up.

[@DefangtheSnake]

Nicely broken down Jason, well done.. 🙏❤️🙏...

[@frogmantactical]

Thank you. Have a great day and God bless

[@michaelparadiso6805]

Would it have been a good option to have the goatherders make the hike with them to the top of the mountain? Then they could let the herders go when QRF got there to extract them. That way they couldn't alert anyone until they were out of the area.

[@johndough2093]

This is what I thought when I first saw this movie, but again. We don’t know the ROE. We simply was not there.

[@frogmantactical]

I will be going over this exact thing in the beginning of Part 2: Fight Scene. Have a great day and God bless

[@agmsmith4079]

@@johndough2093 ..the herder has a radio on him. Most likely the Taliban have checkins with the herders. When the guy misses his check-in the taliban will go looking for him. Taking them with you slows you down. In my opinion they would have been better off tying them to a tree in a secluded or hard to see area (tree with bushes in front of it)... or one guy on the team takes the herders away from the herd in a direction counter to the direction the team is gonna travel... leave some clues to lead to the herders, and tie them up in a hard go see spot away from the herd. It’s not about hiding them so they are never found, it’s just about buying time and leading the search party on a scavenger hunt to find the herder which buys the team more time and hopefully blurs which direction the team went in a little. I would also take a rubber band and hold the herder’s radio on broadcast and then tie the radio to one of the goats. Sure the taliban and other herders will switch to another channel when they realize someone has an open mic on... but again it just creates some confusion and buys some time. I would also do something a little degrading with the herders... like strip them naked, and choke them out... while unconscience, tie them up to each other in a 69 face to junk, hands zip tied (and duct taped) to thighs/knees, head (and hair) duct taped to pelvis across the hips and ass. Maybe even beards duct taped to balls (think of the pain trying to pull that off!!!! They’ll have to try to cut it off just to get them up off the ground!!)... then cover them completely with a tarp or blanket and some foliage on top to hide them a little. Maybe stick them down between some rocks or deep in some bushes. It creates a conundrum for the herders when they finally come to... they are disoriented, in darkness, taped and tied up to each other in ways that make it painful to move and once they realize what is taped to their faces, it’s super embarrassing! Do they want to get found with each other’s dick in their faces/mouths? Eventually they will have to give in and give their position away but it might make them try to get free longer before trying to signal to passing search parties for help... but that’s just me... I’m sick in the head like that! Hahahaha. I just think of that sort of thing on the fly! Lol! 😱😱😱

[@stevewitte2501]

Of course its easy to monday morning quarterback fifteen years later, but I always thought the same thing. Tie them up, take them with on the way to the last point of reasonable comm signal strength and cut them loose before making the call to confirm the target. That would've bought them time to get the rest of the team in play and complete the mission. Of course there's always something that could go wrong with that plan as well. Better than doing nothing at all.

[@Atonement-]

Here's the truth about it... it's definitely a humane proposal...but it doesn't matter because the outcome might've been worse (Lutrell not make it out either possibly)....we KNOW THIS because in testimony later on & confirmed by Ghulab himself via people he knew in Sha's clan, Sha's entire unit was already on top of the guys... they stated they closely watched as the SEAL team "appeared to be debating what to do after compromise"... this validates Luttrell's story too which is cool... these are the same Taliban unit who took out the QRF as well as road vehicles via remote IED detonation from atop mountain (there's actual footage of both on the Web).

[@CodyP4681]

Thank you for this! And thank u for serving this GREAT country!

[@fisherman3640]

Great review, would love to hear your thoughts on more of this movie.

[@frogmantactical]

I will be breaking down the fight scene soon! Have a great day and God bless

[@fisherman3640]

Outstanding!

[@chadhildreth4834]

Thats the problem people wnt to know about the movie not what really happe ed

[@MZ-bl6wg]

@@chadhildreth4834 there are some amazing accounts on KZbin (interviews and documentaries) that are from military personel that were actually there that clear some things up a lot and confirm other things. Black rifle coffee company interviewed one of the PJ’s dropped to recover the 3 SEALs bodies and gives a ton of info and another channel hs a documentary of the rescue of Lutrell which the movie got completely wrong. The documentary interviews the Blackhawk crew that rescued Lutrell , the pilot and rest of crew and both PJ’s that actually retrieved Lutrell. For one it wasn’t a daytime rescue and Apaches strafing Taliban, our special operations doesn’t work that way, the potential loss of helicopters and personel would be too high I. The middle of a fight and middle of day. He was rescued in a night mission by 2 160th SOAR Blackhawks , there were no Apaches with them becasue they got the wrong coordinates and flew way out of the way so the Apaches had to return before arriving for fuel so 2 Blackhawks went in anyway using nightvision and sensors , located his claimed location which was on the side of a 1,500’cliff mountain village and hd a hell of a time trying to get the PJs on the ground. Not sure why this was SO far off from what they claim , wel I guess it’s Hollywood. Be interesting to see if they get the “alone at Dawn” Combat controller John Chapman’s movie right? Even Lutrell said he could be there for most the filming so he’d advise at base camp and then they’d go film and do their own thing admitting some Hollywood liberties were taken. It’s why I appreciate al the testimonies from those who were there in other capacities , paints a pretty clear picture . Not often we have drone footage like first ever recorded Medal of Honor viral video but love that it shows that our special operations community are actually super human war fighters.

[@thefootboy20]

I heard luttrell giving a talk that if the team left them tied up the goats would have still walked back to the village and the locals would know something was up...makes sense.

[@frogmantactical]

Yes animals are smart and an animal without a herder means something is wrong with them. People go looking. Have a great day and God bless.

[@jamesdoyle6601]

True. May have brought them some more time though but who knows.

[@ndp7054]

As I understood from other sources on the subject - the enemy had heard or somehow determined the chinook touching down on a nearby peek that night, so they were already acting with a heightened awareness. Now the seal team had no way of knowing this but I find it suspect that these three goatherders randomly stumble upon this four man team by sheer coincidence alone, especially with that walky talky on them. But all "shoulda, woulda, coulda" quarterbacking aside I would've killed them. I'd see it as way too much of a coincidence and put one 556 in each of their heads and then police the casings. If they want to try and blame it on US special forces, hey the Taliban is going to do that no matter how large or small the bullet holes are. It's fucked up. It's war. Rather have these guys suffer from PTSD and nightmares but still come home alive. Bless our troops and thank each of you for your service.

[@ninjap323]

When I watched this movie it amazes me that was the decision that was made. I felt like the correct decision was very obvious. Tie up the old man with the goat. Carry the kid with you for an hour then release kid to go untie old man. Would have been long gone with that decision before anyone came looking

[@erwinlizardi3162]

@@ninjap323 The correct decision wouldn't have mattered, he Taliban had heard them infil by helicopter and had been tracking them before springing a 8 man ambush.

[@brianharris706]

First time watching your channel. Loved the movie and the breakdown by you. Interesting and informative. Look forward to the next.

[@frogmantactical]

Welcome aboard! I would appreciate it if you watched some of my other videos. Have a great day and God bless.

[@selyts4]

I remember watching the movie and yelling at the tv screen “neutralize the compromise”! Knowing that teenager with the 1,000 yard stare was going to do.

[@frogmantactical]

😂 🙏

[@selyts4]

@@frogmantactical My nephew is currently in the Navy and went through the Buds training program. Unfortunately he didn’t make it through his first attempt. He hasn’t said which part he didn’t complete, but was very disappointed he didn’t pass. Is there any advice you can give this young man on becoming a S.E.A.L.?

[@ragnar2320]

Love this movie. Thank you for some facts. Very interesting. Keep them coming. God bless.

[@MZ-bl6wg]

Loved this reaction, thanks for your knowledge

[@scottmurray2239]

Lone Survivor was a good movie, but I’m so happy that you shared the reality of the situation. My wife and I saw the movie when it first came out. I had the very same first impression as you. I told my wife that I would have smoked all three of those guys. First time visiting your channel & subscribed looking forward to seeing and hearing more of your reviews. God Bless you and thank you for your service

[@frogmantactical]

It was a great movie overall. I will be doing the battle scenes breakdown soon! Have a great day and God bless.

[@justicar2747]

4th Option, Gag them, move to extract and release them once you're at the bird...might be slower but has the benefit of not giving away your pos.

[@PriusTurbo]

This is phenomenal. Really enjoy the pacing and the format. Explanations are spot-on and quick to the point. Wouldn't change a thing. Have shared this with friends. Looking forward to part 2. Thank you Jason!

[@RabbitsHole]

RIP Danny, Axe, Michael and shout out to Marcus Luttrell

[@temoorejr]

Thanks for the video! Like I always tell people; have a plan, if something goes south, you can adjust but if you don’t have a plan to begin with, you will be messed up like a soup sandwich!

[@frogmantactical]

That is very true. It doesn't take much to get jumbled up. Have a great day and God bless

[@226B-p1c]

The whole mission was bananas from the start

[@frogmantactical]

I agree. There a lot missing in the movie. Be blessed.

[@daltonpartridge5191]

This is the first breakdown video I have watched - I enjoyed it. There is always something more to learn.

[@velvetbrick428]

🇲🇽🤠🇺🇸 When the firearm fight started,as seals started getting shot hurt injured...description of all of their injuries..made me sad & thankful for not being in a firefight...My solute to all armed forces members thank u for all you have done & given for our country & your fellow soldiers side note: while reading book I was ok w/seal using Mp-5 they had to kill the Taliban & them get home safe...🇺🇸🤠🇲🇽

[@frogmantactical]

It is what it is. Part of the life. Have a great day and God bless.

[@odyshopody9387]

I remember when I read the book that was the first question I asked. Why didn't they ex filtrate once their cover was blown. As I remember it, all they did after they released the goat herders was to re-locate their hide sight. I know SEAL's are mission orientated, but why stay when your position is compromised and your communication is lost?

[@abates7555]

Thank you for sharing some insight

[@frogmantactical]

You’re welcome. Have a great day and God bless

[@austingriff5905]

Enjoyed your most recent video on NSW scenes in movies. Would really like to see a full break down of the fights in 13 hours and zero dark30 and even more of Act of valor, and im sure I can think of more. Really enjoy your perspective and thoughts and feedback

[@frogmantactical]

I’ll be working on more soon. 🙏

[@nunyurbyznes7611]

Thank you Sir for your service and the great review!

[@frogmantactical]

Thank you and you're welcome. Have a great day and God bless

[@JohnGreyman]

Why would the seals not take the goat herders with them to make the connection for extraction and then let them go or let them go once support has arrived and the mission accomplished? I have always felt like the facts this story both book and movie were missing 50-60%. Then to hear Rob O'Neill talk about why red team 6 didnt go along to support these guys it raises more questions then answers. Last mission, about to rotate home, havnt seen any action to make a name for themselves in the team community. Etc

[@frogmantactical]

There is a specific reason why tactically and I will go over that in the beginning of the next video, Part 2: Fight Scene 1. Have a great day and God bless

[@frogmantactical]

@Johnny Mad Dog The movie doesn't show exactly what occurred. Have a great day and God bless

[@JohnGreyman]

@@frogmantactical Thank you. I am looking forward to episode two of this series.

[@Jus-Too-Smoove]

I’ve never served, but I do know that wolves aren’t just going to attack humans if they were tied up and if they were tied up I feel as though the village would’ve realized that those three were gone for a long time and would’ve came looking. Easy to say from behind a phone screen, but I do wish they could’ve done something to buy them a lot more time. God bless their families man. This movie gets me every time

[@colbybannister5913]

Can not wait for part two

[@frogmantactical]

It is in the que. A few more videos to go before I break it down. Have a great night and God bless.

[@sparadial2432]

god bless you!! thank you for your service!!

[@YamoshiStephen_]

Ive watched this movie 3 times this week

[@frogmantactical]

It’s a great movie. Be sure to subscribe and watch more videos! Have a great night and God bless.

[@dananderson4884]

Mohamed Gulab (the Afghan villager who saved Luttrell) said that Ahmad Shaw and his goons were all ready on top of the SEALs. They had the tactical advantage and waited for the team to release the herders. Then ambushed the SEALs

[@glockguy3422]

Just subscribed can't wait for part three

[@frogmantactical]

Thank you. Have a great day and God bless

[@griff6985]

Excellent analysis. Thanks.

[@frogmantactical]

Thank you! Have a great day and God bless

[@nick-cb6dl]

A dead Taliban don’t tell lies, wack’em.

[@dustinchen]

schwack'em

[@corpsegrinderak]

@@dustinchen i was gonna say the samething lol when in doubt schwack'em

[@frogmantactical]

Indeed. I would appreciate it if you watched some of my other videos. Have a great day and God bless.

[@KeyboardWarrior101st]

Dead men tell no tales.

[@theshrek__3287]

ROE cover Military aged males with radios hehe

[@stevee.oneder891]

Just subscribed. Patiently waiting for part 2

[@joetorres1861]

The only other option I see (not that I’m second guessing them) is duck tape their mouth, keep them flex cuffed and have them walk down the mountain far enough away. The mission is already compromised. When you get far enough away, cut them loose (constantly trying coms). When they leave, change direction so they think your exfil is going one way but you change direction

[@frogmantactical]

That’s what I would do except back to back to slow them down more. Or perhaps one leg of each zip tied together. Be blessed

[@chadhumphries1445]

Just found this channel. Subscribed almost immediately.

[@Steve_643]

I always thought I would of kept them tied up but not immobile, but I’ve heard that it might of not been the herders that gave their position away, a group of Taliban had been tracking them previously to them encountering the goat herders!!!!

[@frogmantactical]

The rappel rope was dropped accidentally so there were issues that occurred from the beginning. Have a great day and God bless.

[@BradenNederhoed1776]

Love your channel and keep up making good videos

[@jdencemcbuilder2134]

There was a parallel documentary about this where that guy that helped marcus to survive spoke up of the events that unfolded during that mission. What he said was the villagers and the taliban already knew they were there, the goat herders wasnt at fault and said even they were aware there was something going on specially when they heard the loud heli arriving at night. They were just unfortunate to stumble upon the seal team.

[@gegaoli]

Thank for an excellent /informative breakdown.

[@frogmantactical]

You're welcome. Have a great day and God bless

[@Jonslondon]

This always reminds me of call sign Bravo Two Zero, an eight man SAS team deployed in Iraq in 1991. They too were royally screwed by goat herders.

[@frogmantactical]

Goats or animals in general have a very keen sense of smell and sometimes lead the herders to the teams. Many real stories on this topic. Have a great day and God bless.

[@frogmantactical]

@David Bury Every story is told from a different perspective. That’s why I don’t do books.

[@dkroll92]

not even the only recon team that had that happen to them in Desert Storm. Several SF ODAs and regular army LRS units got compromised under similar (if not always identical) circumstances

[@tonystewart7287]

Goats been farking up missions forever.

[@jasonwilliams9409]

The "radio" in the scene from the goat hearders was a scanner.

[@cmcer1995]

Your battle belt set-up is what drew my attention to your channel. I really enjoyed this movie as it was really intense and about real life instead of fiction. I thought just turning them loose was illogical, at least injure them or do something that would slow them way down or just tie e them up until mission accomplished and then turn them loose on return. Eliminate the threat since they had a radio, what would a goat herder want with a radio anyway? Remaining covert at all times using cover absolutely. Did you ever do Part II? Ok found it.

[@frogmantactical]

Thank you. Much appreciated. There are a lot of options to consider but the movie doesn’t portray actual events. Be blessed.

[@BB-ly3dh]

That was a damn good break down. Thanks

[@frogmantactical]

Thank you. I will be breaking down the fight scenes soon. I would appreciate it if you watched some of my other videos. Have a great day and God bless.

[@BB-ly3dh]

@@frogmantactical cant wait. Will do, i already checked a few of em out. Thank you, God Bless.

[@FamFon1]

Great video!

[@Reel__Shiit]

8:51 my option based on my service: Tie the herd of men up. 3 Soldiers hike to send/recieve comms. Once 3/4 of the team is at the RDVS, soldier holding herd hostage, cuts them lose and hall-ass to RDVS with team. By this time birds are in the air.

[@frogmantactical]

Definitely a possible option. The concern there is the herders are on a time line and the Taliban do check on them via radio so when they don't respond, the Taliban would send someone out to find them which wouldn't be good either. Have a great day and God bless

[@jackbauer4186]

My theory is they could have brought them with them up the mountain at gunpoint, then radio for support once the comms are up. This theory, though, would also mean the herders were missing if the Taliban was radioing in to check on them. It maybe would have bought them enough time perhaps to get the extract activated. Thanks for the video.

[@observelistennlearn1415]

Well...good thinking...bettee than mine. I would had put them in a grave ....lol! But what if the man behind happens to be capture by any patrol unknown?

[@agmsmith4079]

@@frogmantactical ...very true. And if the taliban is checking on herders and would go looking for them if there was no radio check in, then there is really no way they would have frozen to death if left tied to a tree... so that probably would have been a better option than letting them go.

[@Reel__Shiit]

@@observelistennlearn1415 whatever base they were attached to would expedite a combat evac. Those helo's may have attack choppers or some other fixed wing escort... Its only the opinion of an imperfect hominid 🤷‍♂️

[@Anthony-vr3um]

awesome cant wait for the next video

[@frogmantactical]

Thank you. Have a great day and God bless

[@bombardier3qtrlbpsi]

10:16 agree with your comment 1000%. Thank you for your service 👍

[@nzuleima]

Great review 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🇺🇸

[@frogmantactical]

Thank you. Have a great day and God bless

[@ace1gun]

This dude is badass keep up the videos!

[@frogmantactical]

Thank you. It is a work in progress. Have a great day and God bless

[@jonathanlindsey463]

comms suck hard in the mountains and woods of afghan.. people here in the states dont seem to realize just how bad that terrain is

[@coleflorez7739]

apparently according to Gulab (the guy that saved lutrell) the whole village and the surrounding areas heard the helicopter that inserted them and that the taliban were tracking them the whole time they were. gulab said they would have been found regardless of what they did with the goat herders....not saying this is true but what do yall think?

[@ps3862]

It is true, also many claim Marcus made are fabricated. There weren't 100 fighters in the whole area let alone top the mountain.

[@marklower007]

It's the word from 1 guys mouth is all that is. Who gives a fuck either way it changes nothing. Still a bunch of brave men killed that day on a mission that went bad. Every1 trying to pick apart their story should be ashamed and slapped in the face

[@sauljahboi5965]

@@marklower007 the numbers cited in the book do not match AAR or what Rangers/SF observed in days after Op Red Wings.

[@willf.2304]

Great vid, keep them coming sir! 🇺🇸

[@frogmantactical]

Thanks, will do! I would appreciate it if you watched some of my other videos. Have a great day and God bless.

[@willf.2304]

Will do sir! Stay safe and god bless! 🇺🇸

[@irafowlerjr.7492]

really enjoyed this, learned a lot, thanks

[@frogmantactical]

Thank you. Have a great day and God bless

[@greoricm771]

We had Marcus talk to us in the CTT, and told us not to l and let any turds through training in case this kind of thing happened, hah. Loving the videos and keep it up. 'Till Valhalla.

[@frogmantactical]

No joke. We even let foreigners in our training to play politics. Have a great day and God bless

[@greoricm771]

@@frogmantactical Sure did. We had one foreign O try to quit during surf torture a ton of times, and the instructors just told him if he didn't stay his country was going to cut his head off when he got home... apparently that's actually happened.

[@wolf_9626]

11:26 his reasoning is even better than mine. Mine was a bit of an option 2 variant, where i thought tying them all up and bringing them along with them up to the extraction point while having a watchful eye on them, then call for extract, and if the call don't go through, they would not have to worry about the taliban chasing them as they would still have the herders hostage and they would still be watched over.

[@BALLzDeep1986]

Either safeguarding all 3 belly down, hog tired & gagged, splitting up in 2s or 1 safeguarding the 3 until they establish coms or hiking all 3 tied together, gagged until they find coms but releasing them anytime before phase 2 of the op was a death sentence!

[@mcanfd0771]

Take their radio and tie them up together so its harder for all three to get down the mountain with the hope of gaining more ground to get out of the area. Otherwise you have to take them out.

[@frogmantactical]

Agreed 100%. Have a great day and God bless.

[@athanasiusjerome6315]

Readily will I display, the intestinal fortitude required...

[@mehicanbls1526]

Blindfold, cuff and take them with you to the peak. Get comms, make extraction then cut them loose

[@alexddavis88]

I agree that they could have extracted with them or bring them to a rendezvous point and interrogate them since they clearly have a special interest to that area and group. They may know how and where he travels. The team could drop them off at the extraction team and go back to finish the mission

[@j.n.8745]

Appreciate your share.

[@frogmantactical]

My pleasure. I would appreciate it if you watched some of my other videos. Have a great day and God bless.

[@j.n.8745]

@@frogmantactical👍

[@chrissmith1364]

Should have tied 2 up and brought the 3rd with them and released him once they were about to get extracted. God Bless

[@happinesshotel5375]

I can totally talk about this if you want too! This sounds like a cool conversation to have.

[@shaqtus50]

Have always said this. Letting all 3 go sealed the deal

[@badkarmaonezero]

Don't play the armchair general, it's quite to critique someone's decisions sitting in an air conditioned room without bullets or RPG's flying past your head......

[@happinesshotel5375]

@@badkarmaonezero so should we tell Jason pike to stop acting like an armchair general because Jason is giving his analysis, most likely in an air-conditioned room, and not getting shot at and sleeping in the dirt! Maybe this Chris Smith guy served and did a bunch of tours, or maybe he didn't? At least the guy isn't hating on Marcus.

[@regionalrange3052]

@@badkarmaonezero this decision could have been made before RPGs and Ak47 bullets arrived.....

[@JohnWick-wm4pd]

New sub. Thank you for the breakdown of this movie!

[@hibuddywuzsup571]

Good to hear a SEAL giving thoughts on this and alternative options. It doesn't matter if the Taliban already knew they were there. That decision only helped the Taliban get the Intel of where they were heading and they got the information much quicker.If it was that important of them knowing they were there, then they would have engaged them much sooner. Their number one priority should have been getting comms to work before making any decision of cutting them loose. If you already know that comms is shotty at best, the last thing you need is a young man on their side sprinting to them to give them Intel that your team just said in the open. That's why it doesn't matter of if their presence were known. We are going off the information the team had. Even then it should be safe to assume that they may be aware of their presence. All more reason to make sure comms is good before making any decision that would give the Taliban more advantage. It's really just a risk management thing and they should have gone with the option that would minimize damage and bought them more time. They instead chose an extreme option that they knew for sure would lead to engagement while praying that comms would work instead of ironing it out beforehand.

[@seanwhite304]

Can't wait for part 2 bro

[@frogmantactical]

Hopefully it will reveal some good stuff. Have a great day and God bless

[@joemcdonald4400]

You can tell it's hollywood when they are discussing what to one of the scenes you can see the shadow of someone in the background walking from left to right. THey could take them with them until they get comms then tie them together and go to a point and wait for qrf. They would be farther from the town, and it would buy more time.

[@nkyryry]

I’m pretty sure Marcus has said they were going to kill them. That they came up with every scenario under the sun for what to do with the guys. And then the goats came up the mountain. Changed everything. They realized they couldn’t let the goats go back down to the village without the men. I think the issue was trying to salvage the mission. If you cut them loose... why stay? They should have got the hell out of there.

[@badkarmaonezero]

The movie portrays it differently, Marcus was for killing the Goat Herders. Axe was against the idea, Mike Murphy pulled rank

[@hibuddywuzsup571]

It still beats letting the men go. If you had to pick between the men getting there first or the animals, it still makes more sense for the animals to show up without the men. Animals can't talk and would take much longer to get there. Hell even if the Taliban are there scratching their heads wondering where the herders are, it at least buy the SEALs more time.

[@alohafy]

Y’all need to remember this happened in 05

[@danieldonnelly6205]

I say have 2 of them Dietz and someone else move to try and get the coms working and leave 2 with the herders to keep an eye on them. Once they get coms working and figure out a time til extract then they can figure out what to do with the herders. Ok so say extract is going to be at 15:00 hours, and it'll take about 15 minutes to get down the hill to the village. Release the herders at 14:55 hours. I figure it'll take the taliban at least 20 mins to get back up the hill, so now you've given the extraction team a 25 minute window for not bring exact in their timing of extraction. Also the reason I say 25 minutes and not 30 is because you don't want the taliban right on top of you when the extraction team arrives because then your extraction team is going to end up in the same situation they eventually ended up in. That's what I believe they could of done but I've also never been thru something like this so I really don't know that's just an educated guess from the safety of my couch.

[@MrLovelog]

Man! Loved the vid- subbed! Want a pt 2!

[@gbjr5732]

Great Vid, Thanks J

[@frogmantactical]

Thank you. Have a great day and God bless

[@pjp1184]

Great video

[@Epic11121]

Another option could be... they should have kept 1 seal as security to watch the tied up herder and the kid, while the other 3 make there way up to the top to get the comms. If they are in fact able to get the comms and get an ETA of extract, THEN cut them loose. But until they are 100% sure they have a plan to get out of there then you keep them tied up