Long COVID: Why people are getting their blood 'washed' - Science unscripted

[@dw_podcasts]

We hope this video will help long COVID patients around the world to better understand what this therapy looks and feels like, and what it can (and cannot) offer. As soon as a study is published on H.E.L.P. Apheresis as a long COVID therapy, we'll update this comment with a link. A list of clinics offering this treatment is in the description of this video.

[@fanatla3195]

I'm sorry but the moment any doctor takes off their mask when attending patients they lose all credibility for me.

[@musictorelaxandunwind]

Try pomogranate juice , green tea and chokeberry juice effective against virus

[@pedroortiz3635]

Wats the cost

[@tkilla1202]

"Pharmaceutically induced iatrogenic injury and death" Thats the technical term.

[@dw_podcasts]

@@tkilla1202 Nearly all the patients we spoke to at this clinic had a 'normal' COVID-19 infection first and then developed long COVID. Your definition likely refers to vaccine injury, which is complicated to discuss in a comments section because vaccine injury isn't the same as long COVID. (There can be overlap.) One guy we spoke to at the clinic, but who declined an interview, said he believed he developed long COVID as a result of vaccination. That is rare but can happen. The more common route toward developing long COVID is through infection (or multiple infections). - Conor

[@juicemansam128]

Nattokinase (2000FU), Bromelain (500mg), Curcumin (500mg). Cleaning the blood of the damage debris is great, but that will not stop the damage if the body continues to produce the spike protein, or if the spike protein is continuously injected into the body. The three substances listed in this comment assist the body in breaking down the spike protein, as well as other damaged proteins, and to reduce inflammation, which leads to the build-up that Apheresis attempts to clean. Intermittent fasting will also help in breaking down damaged protein.

[@macfamilyoflove]

@juicemansam128 with my qualifications as internet quack, I sense some truth in your words but would be greatful if you could explain how you came to this conclusion please?

[@jackmarston2746]

pls explain why you think that?

[@jedbennett7397]

@juicemansam128 - I tried that and 3 different anticoagulant prescription drugs for 6 months prior to HELP Apheresis treatment. My blood still looked black and sticky like dirty oil…. Apheresis saved my life

[@denowilliams4381]

Can you do a follow-up on these patients now please?

[@mirelatrandafir1004]

They can not, because this is a scam, only for making money, they made a lot of money giving us the poison and now making this shit,the body will make the spike protein again and again, because is in our DNA...some of them couldn't do it over and over again because the veins were to clothed, just think about this.

[@WeRemainFaceless]

There’s a BMJ paper been done on the patients of this clinic. Out of hundreds of patients they contacted, only 6 said they felt better after the treatments however their symptoms returned within 4-8weeks later. None claim they were ‘cured’. Not only that, many had significant debt from having these treatments. With the average treatment regime being ~€15-18k. It’s a snakeoil treatment plan.

[@dw_podcasts]

I messaged James Cox a few months after his treatment and he wrote: 'Hey Conor, thanks for checking in! Doing okay, I don’t think apheresis helped me at all however and the drugs just made me feel worse so 🤷🏽‍♂ maybe I’m an exception to the rule? I’m just resting and taking things easy and I seem to be making very small gains over time.'

[@sloth6247]

Heart attacks, anaphylaxis, autoimmune, diabetes all cause anxiety & panic. The fact most that doctors can’t understanding this means they’re pretty bad doctors.

[@robertstjean3009]

Or is it the experimental jab nobody will know for years. That why I didn't take it.

[@peggyperez1479]

There is a physician in the US, that does a different therapy, but gets great results as well. He used multiple blood thinners as a treatment to flush out micro clots. He had been using this treatment for a few years and is having good results. He has a clinic just for treating micro clots.Sorry I can' remember his name

[@noremac4807]

Long Covid or long vax??

[@meme-fd3fs]

Both

[@fromthetoon1602]

Sound like vax injury not long covi

[@edwardduda4222]

No, some people develop chronic fatigue syndrome because COVID infects your nervous system. That’s why a lot of people lost their taste/smell.

[@fromthetoon1602]

@@edwardduda4222 and they have probably had the jabs, I don’t know anyone had a reaction for not getting vaccinated but I know a few that have had reactions. Ive had it twice unvaccinated and it was like a flu for two days then got better everyday after that sweating a bit and a bit weak that was it

[@davidhelling9296]

Ditto Gaslighting here...

[@jedbennett7397]

Correct!

[@GungaLaGunga]

no. unvaccinated people are getting post viral syndromes too after infection. and the risk continues for every reinfection. i hope you never get it. it ruins your life.

[@waynesmith5429]

Bet it's not the virus alone, What's the percentage of these patients that had a shot, close to 100%?

[@dw_podcasts]

Hi Wayne. A number of studies (see below) have concluded COVID-19 vaccines reduce the risk of long COVID. Here are three from 2023 with conclusions in quotes. - Conor VACCINE www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9905096/pdf/main.pdf "COVID-19 vaccination before SARS-CoV-2 infection was associated with a lower risk of long COVID, while most of those with ongoing long COVID did not experience symptomatic changes following vaccination." NATURE COMMUNICATIONS www.nature.com/articles/s41467-023-38388-7 "We found that vaccination was consistently associated with lower odds and rates of long COVID clinical diagnosis and high-confidence computationally derived diagnosis after adjusting for sex, demographics, and medical history." PLOS GLOBAL PUBLIC HEALTH journals.plos.org/globalpublichealth/article?id=10.1371/journal.pgph.0001917 "... [W]e estimate that vaccines against COVID-19 decrease the prevalence of long COVID among U.S. adults by 20.9% (95% CI: -32.0%, -9.9%) and, from the analysis of 158 countries, by -15.7% (95% CI: -18.0%, -13.4%) among all who had COVID-19."

[@tumbleweeduk7479]

@@dw_podcasts Who financed the studies please? Namaste 🙏

[@simonpedley9729]

Plus, many long covid patients have LC as a result of catching the virus in 2020, long before vaccines were available.

[@steveolotu52]

​@@tumbleweeduk7479Stop acting as if you really care. You just want to confirm your unscientific emotions.

[@orion9k]

​@@dw_podcastsit's weird why youtube allow you to post links to scientific studies on vaccines, but if I post scientific studies, my comments are instantly removed

[@DerWinkler]

Thank you for this, great work. I live near Mulheim and I was debatting on trying it as well, but I guess I am not desperate enough (yet) to try an experimental treatment with only anecdotal evidence, which is not covered by insurance. I also dont want to get disappointed if it doesnt work or only does a little. But as a ME/CFS sufferer I am glad that we finally begin to realize how much of an issue postviral diseases are...

[@WwJd2tmthy1]

Ankylosing Spondylitis and Ulcerative Colitis. Very bad case of mono in 1987 at 17yo; hospitalized for 10 days and respiratory alert for the first 36 hours. Fast forward to my mid to late 30’s as I start googling my day to day debilitating symptoms and CFS comes up and basically says good luck getting a doctor to treat you or believe you. Yes, it said that. In hindsight I have suffered in silence for decades. In 2018 I started crumbling and was using a cane by end of 2020. Viruses are settling in our spines and killing us. We must clean out lifestyles up and eat to our bodies designs. We can not last these toxins that have been hurled at us. Most which were controllable, but becuz of our diets and many environmental toxins out systems are under attack. And they don’t have the ability to fight these viruses on their own!

[@blaisemorris1301]

Mmmm...long covid, sudden adult death syndrome, turbo cancer, massive increase in strokes , heart conditions ! thing is these only started appearing in 2021 ! I wonder why ???

[@simonpedley9729]

Wrong. Long covid started appearing in March 2020.

[@blaisemorris1301]

@@simonpedley9729 how could it be 'long covid' if it appeared at the beginning?

[@simonpedley9729]

@@blaisemorris1301 Well, in my case I got covid in March 2020 and never got better. So when would you like me to say my long covid started? March 2020? April 2020? May 2020? June 2020? I don't mind. Up to you. It's just semantics.

[@blaisemorris1301]

@@simonpedley9729 Could be you are right ! but without taking into account the damage done by the insane experiment of injecting billions with untested gene therapy its all moot.

[@ex8280]

It's too late. No point in saving these people. Let them find out on their own.

[@alexc7857]

I'd really appreciate journalism on what Bruce K Patterson is achieving in the Long Covid, Me/CFS, Lyme, diseases!

[@godfamilycountry2785]

I’ve tested positive 4x now left with long covid symptoms and asthma! I’m not vaccinated and won’t get the jab! Covid changed my life! Very debilitating!!! Prayer’s sent hopefully 🙏 it will help people!

[@jimd6913]

I've been suffering with long covid for four years looking for an answer cause I'm a fraction of the man I used to be. Praying for all with this dreaded disease.

[@invizigothgd]

A balanced view. Good job on the documentary.

[@tle1015]

Did he take the safe and effective?

[@nightowl16201]

😢 Unbelievable there’s not more these machines. A long way to travel for just a chance it might work. And the cost makes it obtainable.

[@ex8280]

just eat some kim chi. Your breath might stink, but it will fix you.

[@samobog1]

If thousand people where there, why don't we get any reviews of the treatment? Is there some site where we can find them?!

[@dw_podcasts]

There isn't. A lot of anecdotal information is exchanged on platforms like Twitter or on forums. Peer-reviewed data doesn't exist yet, but it's being compiled right now for review by the Max Planck Institute for Physics in Munich.

[@macfamilyoflove]

@dw_podcasts Thank you for taking the time to reply to so many comments. Is there any more data 1 year later? It seems your interest is more than professional, do you also have Long Covid? Any new information on effective treatments or specific centers is very welcome. I’m based near Stockholm, Sweden. Thank you 🙏🏼

[@califoo]

It's doubtful filtering the blood will do anything. The lipid nano particles from the jab get into the linings of heart and organ issues, causing inflammation. Even if the blood is filtered, the spike proteins will still be embedded in the organ tissues.

[@Srekwah]

That's what I thought.

[@wayneburrows9202]

Long covid my arse deffo the vaccine spike protein

[@georgewaker6906]

Bullshit that works I know from experience it WORLD

[@georgewaker6906]

Works

[@lijohnyoutube101]

Interesting where was your medical degree from?

[@reasonmattersmost]

Thank you for making this video and holding these folks accountable. The industry around Long Covid is popping up everywhere and though some may be well intentioned most are just making money at our expense. Diet, sleep, movement and mental health along with medication for specific things like high blood pressure are all we can do right now.

[@dw_podcasts]

Thanks for the comment, and sorry to see in another post of yours that you're not doing so well at the moment. I hope that changes. After doing this report my personal take on the Mulheim clinic - and I would emphasize this is how I see it as an American who's used to high health care costs - is that this clinic was not attempting to maximally profit off patients. That's not the same as endorsing the therapy, because as the report makes clear it's experimental and has no published, peer-reviewed data to back it. But if you're asking whether this clinic is taking advantage of desperate long COVID patients... I didn't view it that way. Charging 2k euros for multiple 4-hour apheresis sessions at a clinic with a half-dozen or so beds... and with a waiting list in the thousands... plus blood scans.... that struck me as an attempt to cover costs and pay staff. But you're right to be wary of anyone selling a long COVID cure. That doesn't exist, and the hope is that one (or more) of the ongoing international clinical trials will result in measurable improvements for patients - and that governments will fund more long COVID research. - Conor

[@reasonmattersmost]

@@dw_podcasts I appreciate your comments and clarification. I am sure most mean well. Just a bit skeptical after trying so many things and nothing working. But hopefully the sum of all these approaches will add up to something helpful in the long run.

[@bennyb.1742]

@@reasonmattersmost It was pretty bothersome in the beginning. During my first year I blew a lot of money on charlatan's just because I was desperate and wanted to believe. In some cases even going against my own scientific mind.

[@robertselby8632]

Wow Conor and Gabe!Keep such interesting reports coming.Could there be a quantity of those machines languishing somewhere in storage?

[@dw_podcasts]

Good question. I've passed it along to the B. Braun company and have also asked them whether they plan to begin producing H.E.L.P. Apheresis machines in the future. I'll let you know when I know more - Conor

[@elenabob4953]

Any news?

[@surfinmuso37]

I would safely bet that every person with long covid got at least one vaccine

[@simonpedley9729]

Great. Let's bet. I had long covid before the vaccines were even available (i.e. in 2020), as did many people.

[@surfinmuso37]

Lol...oh u mean before long covid was even a thing? Complete bs@@simonpedley9729

[@ladydrone2345]

I have it, Covid left me with POTS. I had no vax.

[@angel555b6]

Yes , its true also people with NO VACCIN can get covid and longcovid!!! I Hafe a friend That Hafe covid in early 2020, she was very sick and there was no vax!! I myself was starting to feel tired in januari 2022 and get strange symptoms, like hartpalpitations, fatique astma, allergie , diarree and sleepproblems and a strange feeling in my body! I NEVER Hafe had a COVID VAX!!! I only experienced ones a Light cold, no loss of smell, But extreem fatique! For 1 Year and 8 months I try different things and it feels like I am getting More energie now! NAC, magnesium, Quercitine, vitamine c,d, selenium, Nattokinase, curcumina. Probiotica! BIOFHOTONEN THERAPIE helps a lot!! Do you see longcovid is NOT only with people with vaxx!!!

[@davidhelling9296]

Why are they not mentioning that in this presentation ???

[@birgitlangenfeld641]

Where is that done? Contacted Uniklinikum Dresden+ CHARITE Berlin! Who are the Drs in charge in which hospitals, esp. mentioned Dr. Beate Jaeger??

[@simonpedley9729]

why would anyone do this highly dangerous, expensive, and untested treatment before they’ve tried the two trialled peer reviewed and published treatments (hbot and nicotine patches)

[@Zuki-wj8vz]

Desperation I guess

[@andreao3879]

Same people who took 3 shots in one year of another experimental treatment.

[@tumbleweeduk7479]

What is hbot please?

[@simonpedley9729]

@@tumbleweeduk7479 Hyperbaric oxygen therapy. It involves lying in a tank and breathing oxygen for 1 hour. In London, it costs about £100 per hour, and you have to do 20 sessions, so total cost is about £2000. Some places you can get it much cheaper because charities provide it for MS patients. It completely cured me for about a month afterwards...and then I overdid the exercise and relapsed. So I guess it wasn't solving the underlying problems. But I have a friend who was completely cured and stayed that way. It might be worth a try. Another scientific paper just came out showing that it has benefits, I noticed.

[@jedbennett7397]

Please explain HELP is highly dangerous? HBOT is highly dangerous if you have clotting in your vascular system and then put those clots under 2.4 Atmospheres of pressure… I flew from Australia to Cyprus (nearly dead) had 5 Apheresis treatments and within 2 months my health had returned and I was back at the Gym 90% Symptom free.

[@mrfredcoletta]

We're these people vaccinated?

[@noremac4807]

Yes, and I think it’s called long vax

[@simonpedley9729]

It wasn't possible to get vaccines in 2020.

[@jinaoneill328]

Maybe long covid exasperated some other medical problem with her heart and with that getting treatment for the blockages and cleaning up the blood would make sense and it would definitely make a difference in those patients lives at least temporarily they would obviously have to do things to change their diet to improve their chances

[@SamuelSchehrer]

Sounds like the vaxx

[@stephentoner2902]

Ummm how many of these patients are jabbed or multiple jabbed or is tht what we’re really referring to here but just not saying it

[@Chippy88]

I had Covid last September. I’ve had colds much worse. But in the month after I went through the quarantine. I started getting a cough but not real bad. And then like a month or two later it just kept up. I was getting out of breath doing stuff that I normally have no problem doing stuff with, so it ended up. I have post Covid or long Covid. Whatever you wanna call it bronchial asthma, I only had heartburn one time in my life and that was when I was pregnant. I get it every single day now really bad and then I also get Gerd. I have a histamine intolerance. And I’m so upset it’s just I can’t believe it. I thought, but I should say three of my doctors told me that it usually goes away. But now it looks like the studies are a little bit different. And maybe I will have the stupid asthma forever. I’m not easy wanna come blame but this sucks.

[@tumbleweeduk7479]

I suggest following the advice in the above column of Nattokinase, bromelain and curcumin, but I would also add NAC and black seed oil, which is particularly good for the asthma and keep hydrated. Namaste 🙏

[@denisomahoney5464]

This ain't gonna stop the Spike Protein that the Jabs have created ...😡😡😡😡😡😡

[@randyf1876]

Lol. This is what happens when a person takes the bioweapon. RIP

[@sue1657]

thank you mr. hope

[@kostyaa1990]

If you eat processed foods the government controls, you already have the safe and effective vaccine. Good luck Mr. Pfizer.

[@kimara.rio.]

Long covid or Vax side effects?

[@Slap_it_in]

If yall didn't read, the person getting the treatment didn't help and made him feel worse.

[@saschaesken5524]

long covid😂 its the reverse effect of the shot

[@SZ-ed2gt]

Thanks for this Informations!

[@dianefarrell2343]

It's not just the lungs it affects. I lost my hair (grew back now). My legs felt very heavy afterwards and now I have pain and inflammation and weakness. Would this treatment help me. My lungs are Fine

[@ti08287]

in Senegal nur 11% vagzinierd ... ze kennen das wort Long covid nicht.... makes you think

[@mjm6023]

how do we contact the people in this video? may have some good suggestions for james, etc...

[@dw_podcasts]

The best way to contact James would be on Twitter, where you can comment under his posts or request a follow and DM. He's @supercox0521. Both Asad Khan and Binita Kane are also easy to find there too. Hope that helps!

[@macfamilyoflove]

Why not post those suggestions here for the possible benefit of many?

[@user-dg7gn4qk1y]

so very important work and documentary

[@fischleinklein2954]

Hoffentlich kümmert sich auch jemand so intensiv um die Geimpften.

[@davidnikulka1437]

I cought this covid thing in November 2019 then got the shots in the winter of 2020 . Very week in the legs and hard to breath up to now in Oct 2023 though getting better slowly.

[@georgewaker6906]

I believe it works. We need multiple things also vitamins

[@aphrodite7194]

Your weak legs are probably form the vaccine. Blood clots and poor circulation leads to poor oxygen saturation in your leg muscle cells. Oxygen deprived cells ain't gonna perform well.

[@musictorelaxandunwind]

For fatigue use korean gingseng tea

[@dianefarrell2343]

I'm SURE this is SO Expensive that the normal person can't afford it

[@dw_podcasts]

About 2k euros when we did this report - Conor

[@joseamilcarsalgadolainez3586]

Black seed oil ???

[@connie-zm8ws]

I have been using black seed oil. Much better. Just a pinch under the cheek every day.

[@a.j.rainey3024]

Dr John Campbell and Australian Doctor covered “Long Covid” treatment and maintenance dose of IVM. Patients experienced relief of all symptoms. Podcast from two weeks ago. What do you have to lose??

[@karlmuller1976]

I wonder if this could help with M. E. / cfs?

[@jsquire5pa]

Almost certainly

[@karlmuller1976]

@@jsquire5pa ye you think? How do you think it could help?

[@Mind69420]

NAC helps the body heal itself

[@macfamilyoflove]

Some kind of proof is important, everyone seems to be an armchair MD these days. Have YOU had positive results using nac?

[@ex8280]

@@macfamilyoflove just try it, NAC or nattokinase is naturally found in Kim Chi. I hardly see or hear of any asians with long Covid.

[@marcobagut]

God willing, good German science will save us!

[@verzuckungsspitzen6553]

The elephant in the room: is it really Long COVID or actually Post VAC?

[@dw_podcasts]

The patients featured in this report developed long COVID after being infected by the virus. - Conor

[@verzuckungsspitzen6553]

@@dw_podcasts Thank you for your reply. I would gladly believe that narrative if you could kindly confirm that all the patients featured in this report contracted Covid and DIDN'T get vaccinated. Otherwise it's impossible to differentiate/discern.

[@ex8280]

@@verzuckungsspitzen6553 they are not virologist, they just clean blood. Don't ask to much questions, just pretend your vaccinated, pretty soon they going to hunt you down for your "pure blood". LOL.

[@dawnsylvester2725]

That's a cure for a lot of medical problems

[@melissaseago536]

It costs about $2000eu plus travel expenses. After going to doctors and hearing the gas lighters it's a good idea

[@TheRealMikeDrop]

Naringin and quercetin. I'll be thoroughly surprised if you actually make a video about these. I very much believe you should.

[@harryhole5786]

Wow, what they need to do to get out those rdna again. Luckily I did not get Covid, I am not vaccinated.

[@sue1657]

blood thinners are uses in the u s.

[@Swearfx]

Doesn’t Europe have socialized medicine? Why isn’t it “free”?

[@dw_podcasts]

H.E.L.P. apheresis doesn't meet regulatory criteria to be covered by health insurance providers at this point. It's a novel, unproven, experimental therapy that does not have clinical trial data behind it. So it's out-of-pocket. Dr. Beate Jäger told us the procedure - meaning blood scans + 2-3 rounds of apheresis - costs about 2,000 euros. - Conor

[@tkilla1202]

Long Vax innit.

[@simonpedley9729]

No. It's long covid.

[@tkilla1202]

@@simonpedley9729 🤣

[@glennsmethurst2235]

Safe and effective vaccines 💉

[@bluesman5049]

these patients probably received a sting during the "plandemic", or I'm wrong. Why does this treatment cost so much money, if WHO is committed to helping people? And who doesn't have that kind of money, what can I do? travels ... and unfortunately there are many, many more. It looks like, "the disease is free, and then I treat you for money - a lot of money"

[@dw_podcasts]

Most the patients we spoke to at the clinic had not been vaccinated prior to getting long COVID because those vaccines weren't available back in 2020 (when they got infected with COVID-19). A number of studies (see below) have concluded COVID-19 vaccines reduce the risk of long COVID. Here are three from 2023 with conclusions in quotes. - Conor VACCINE www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9905096/pdf/main.pdf "COVID-19 vaccination before SARS-CoV-2 infection was associated with a lower risk of long COVID, while most of those with ongoing long COVID did not experience symptomatic changes following vaccination." NATURE COMMUNICATIONS www.nature.com/articles/s41467-023-38388-7 "We found that vaccination was consistently associated with lower odds and rates of long COVID clinical diagnosis and high-confidence computationally derived diagnosis after adjusting for sex, demographics, and medical history." PLOS GLOBAL PUBLIC HEALTH journals.plos.org/globalpublichealth/article?id=10.1371/journal.pgph.0001917 "... [W]e estimate that vaccines against COVID-19 decrease the prevalence of long COVID among U.S. adults by 20.9% (95% CI: -32.0%, -9.9%) and, from the analysis of 158 countries, by -15.7% (95% CI: -18.0%, -13.4%) among all who had COVID-19."

[@Sullivanserves]

I heard COVID and the vaccines mess with The microvascular blood veins that go to muscles and whatnot and clog them up. I wonder if sending the blood and attempting to clean those microvascular veins up would lead you to some endurance

[@ex8280]

you really want them to kill people don't you?

[@michaelgordon1091]

Hi tech plasma centers how modern,

[@obc3095]

How many of these people were vaccinated?

[@dw_podcasts]

They got long COVID from infections, not vaccination injury. Afterwards some of them (I believe most of them) went on to get vaccinated as well. But it was the infection that caused COVID-19 in their cases, not the vaccination. - Conor

[@ex8280]

Vaccination=no Covid=no Long Covid=no Blood cleaning. People need to keep getting vaccinated, good for you.

[@mattfinch7403]

All these patients are no doubt jabbed

[@dw_podcasts]

Hi Matt. A number of studies (see below) have concluded COVID-19 vaccines reduce the risk of long COVID. Here are three from 2023 with conclusions in quotes. - Conor VACCINE www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9905096/pdf/main.pdf "COVID-19 vaccination before SARS-CoV-2 infection was associated with a lower risk of long COVID, while most of those with ongoing long COVID did not experience symptomatic changes following vaccination." NATURE COMMUNICATIONS www.nature.com/articles/s41467-023-38388-7 "We found that vaccination was consistently associated with lower odds and rates of long COVID clinical diagnosis and high-confidence computationally derived diagnosis after adjusting for sex, demographics, and medical history." PLOS GLOBAL PUBLIC HEALTH journals.plos.org/globalpublichealth/article?id=10.1371/journal.pgph.0001917 "... [W]e estimate that vaccines against COVID-19 decrease the prevalence of long COVID among U.S. adults by 20.9% (95% CI: -32.0%, -9.9%) and, from the analysis of 158 countries, by -15.7% (95% CI: -18.0%, -13.4%) among all who had COVID-19."

[@simonpedley9729]

Nope. I'm in various LC support groups, and there are huge numbers of people, including myself, who got LC in 2020, before the vaccines were available.

[@vegetableautopsy3551]

This seems shady. It comes across as something that is capitalizing on lack of knowledge.

[@seanm.collins9888]

Pace trial claimed to cure or help me/cfs sufferers.

[@toddpearson4486]

So if he plays sport, he would of had to be vaccinated.

[@EastCoastGal66]

I think this a great treatment!

[@RussellD11]

Isnt that the same as giving plasma for $$.. and there charging for it LOL

[@orion9k]

I need this

[@troyheald77]

AAA+++Bedford, Texas

[@SpartanHeaven]

More of these clinics opening ? popular like a car wash

[@freefreepalestine360]

Its the vaccine 😢

[@dw_podcasts]

Hi Rene, a number of studies (see below) have concluded COVID-19 vaccines reduce the risk of long COVID. Here are three from 2023 with conclusions in quotes. - Conor VACCINE www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9905096/pdf/main.pdf "COVID-19 vaccination before SARS-CoV-2 infection was associated with a lower risk of long COVID, while most of those with ongoing long COVID did not experience symptomatic changes following vaccination." NATURE COMMUNICATIONS www.nature.com/articles/s41467-023-38388-7 "We found that vaccination was consistently associated with lower odds and rates of long COVID clinical diagnosis and high-confidence computationally derived diagnosis after adjusting for sex, demographics, and medical history." PLOS GLOBAL PUBLIC HEALTH journals.plos.org/globalpublichealth/article?id=10.1371/journal.pgph.0001917 "... [W]e estimate that vaccines against COVID-19 decrease the prevalence of long COVID among U.S. adults by 20.9% (95% CI: -32.0%, -9.9%) and, from the analysis of 158 countries, by -15.7% (95% CI: -18.0%, -13.4%) among all who had COVID-19."

[@katimurray626]

More lunacy

[@brianaitchison6060]

Gee whiz,get the stuff pumped into you ,then go and get it washed out of you for2000 eu ,and go and get more stuff pumped in sgain...

[@sophiemariebalsimelli4368]

EBOO

[@reasonmattersmost]

Well, I keep watching and so far not a single hard number around how many see sustainable improvement. This, like so many other treatments, is just medical providers throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks. And making some money in the process. There is currently no treatment that has measurable and sustainable benefit. If they can not say simply how many people are recovering then they are just selling snake oil. This sort of thing helps anyone feel good for a week or two. It is not helping folks like me who are sick for so long. It is a waste of money and even cruel that they offer something they can not demonstrate works.

[@davidhelling9296]

Ogus pokus...

[@macfamilyoflove]

Have you tried it?

[@reasonmattersmost]

@@macfamilyoflove Per my comment. If there is not a solid number of people actually showing measured and sustainable improvement only a fool would pay money for something like this. Selling false hope is unethical and should be illegal. Do research. Present facts. And then sell your product.

[@macfamilyoflove]

@@reasonmattersmost i hope you never find yourself desperate enough to try something as ’foolish’ as going with your gut instinct as there is no clinical research & your life/health hangs in the balance……..you’re too quick to judge or maybe a little ’liverish’

[@reasonmattersmost]

I am disabled and can barely move. I have tried everything. It is why I judge these sort of snake oil money makers harshly. You do you though. For me it is a waste of money and also just plain mean and dangerous to sell things that do not help.

[@sue1657]

i hope this works for covid EXIT

[@PerryScanlon]

O2? BS

[@dw_podcasts]

What do you mean? - Conor

[@PerryScanlon]

​@@dw_podcaststhat dark blood is from a vein, not an artery. And any changes to O2 or pH are temporary unless the patient is permanently connected to that machine. So if their O2 is a bit low and CO2 a bit high (if the kidneys haven't compensated enough) then the person will feel better but after being disconnected it will return to the same.

[@frkk6933]

🤦🤦🤦

[@marcobagut]

“I am sure it will get better”... How, if you only criticise but don’t move your backside?