Long Range 7mm PRC Testing & Data

Not since the introduction of the 6.5 Creedmoor, have we seen such a game changing cartridge introduction.
A short list of key features and benefits include:
Hornady’s combination of perfect case design and bullets with very high ballistic coefficients results in amazing energy retention and minimal wind drift, even out of short barrel lengths.
The 7mm PRC uses a standard magnum bolt face and has a standard overall length of 3.30” and, therefore, fits in a standard magnum length magazine box. This means we can easily rebarrel existing bolt action rifles in most magnum calibers to a 7mm PRC.
Recoil falls between a 30-06 and 300 Win. Mag and is very manageable without muzzle brakes or suppressors.
Even with a 20” barrel length, cartridge performance is outstanding, making this a very suppressor friendly cartridge.
Extremely efficient case design results in longer barrel life than other 7mm magnum offerings.
Learn more about the 7mm PRC at www.hillcountryrifles.com

[@MrBailzDawg]

I called my 7 PRC rifle builder at the last minute to change my rifle from 24” to 20”. Can’t wait. Thanks for the video!

[@Thesamperson]

This is awesome! Tells me that 20" barrel at 500 yards is more than enough to drop an elk. Very helpful. Great video!

[@loganvictor3494]

Those groups were absolutely insane!!

[@tacticalmattfoley]

YUP! That was nuts.

[@SpudOutdoors]

Helps with a custom built rifle and a couple thousand scope

[@Error-4-0-4-]

Glad someone made this comparison when I built my 7prc Tikka went with a 20" carbon barrel thanks to this vid showing you not losing very much. The short barrel makes running a can so much nicer.

[@loganmorton9304]

Hey man are ya getting similar velocities?

[@Error-4-0-4-]

​@@loganmorton9304Yes with the older factory ammo getting mid 2800s out of my 20" carbon six featherweight barrel and mid 2900s hand loading.

[@joemarkivich635]

@@Error-4-0-4- What recipe are you using for hand loads? I just ordered a new barrel

[@HillCountryPrecision]

@@Error-4-0-4- What load are you getting mid 2900's with? I'm getting 2820 fps average from a 20" Proof barrel, 67.0 grains of H1000, and a 175gr Nosler ABLR. Groups are great but I was hoping for a little more velocity.

[@MrRourk]

What 7 PRC did for me - got rid of three separate rifles for 1 hunting rifle. My bench, mountain, brush rifle are 1 and the same gun now.

[@edstettin6799]

GREAT video folks. To the point, numbers and results are readily available for all to see. I love how you just shut up and shoot. KZbin needs more videos like this. Going to subscribe.

[@dvskane1808]

7mm prc with a 20 inch barrel and suppressor seems to the magic combination for hunting.

[@dillonharriger369]

Always fun to watch a gun get driven like that. Impressive shooting and great work!!

[@KurtisLeney]

One of the best videos on the 7PRC for barrel size & info for what I was looking for to buy this rifle, thanks to you guys for precision I want the 24 inch barrel! Great video & great job thank you!🤙🏽

[@nathanielwowchuk6880]

that 20 inch barrel is impressive as hell. same as that 24 inch lilja barrel. damn.

[@bokiNYC]

I was surprised too, it looks like it shot the tightest groups, amazing.

[@MotoAdventureWorld]

Flat out impressive rifles and impressive shooting. Many thanks. Used to have one of your 338 Lapua LRH rifles. May need to try a 20" in 7PRC

[@MichaelRirie]

I’d love this same video, comparing barrel lengths, using the 300 prc!! 😁Interesting video!

[@imjudeau2156]

@@hk93shooter learn how to read

[@danielforester6636]

Michael I agree. im Judeau what do you mean by that?

[@REDNECKROOTS]

It's been done not here but, the 7 PRC holds vel better has less wind deviations and has more tissue penetration at long ranges. Higher sectional density. But The 300 is king on total energy on target though.

[@Ca_Tule_Ninja]

Very valuable info, thank you! Simple, no bias or marketing. Very solid work by the fellow behind the rifle.

[@tacticalmattfoley]

The 7 PRC 185grn BC ELD match is almost .80. That's nuts. This is an awesome video. I truly appreciate your work and admire your products.

[@borkwoof696]

The 190 a-tip is also insane and in the same line only outclassed by 250+ gr bullets.

[@Marcusb338]

@@borkwoof696 it’s pretty much the flattest shooting gun you can pick up off the shelf and run factory ammo through, without blowing your shoulder off with a 28 nosler or 338 of some sort.

[@MrT13]

Berger’s are better don’t read boxes.

[@McCracken216]

@@Marcusb338 Huh??? Uh, no. There many, many flatter shooting cartridges out there and they're not all big magnums. Do you really mean flattest shooting, or do you mean something else?

[@jamesbonds2936]

I like how you showed us the barrels length. After I watched your video. I’ll build 20” barrel. Thank you so much

[@Timberdam]

Hey Matt ! Great comparison for those of us considering 7 mm PRC. I still shoot my HCR 270 WSM and 300 WSM you built for me more than 10 years ago maybe 15 and both are still tack drivers with factory ammo ! Judging by the comments I guess it's true only ACCURATE RIFLES are interesting! Hey soldier thanks for you service and your a great shot in that wind !! Truly a professional ! I am getting the itch for something new, just to keep it interesting !!

[@McCracken216]

Still on your first barrel????

[@Timberdam]

yes@@McCracken216

[@dylanschannel6275]

That 24 inch barrel rifle is a badass rifle

[@terrier656]

Very interesting an well done video to this new cartridge. Especially concerning the bullet velocity out of the shorter barrels. very useful. thanks a lot!

[@jerrygarcia2313]

Well that solved it, 20'' it is. Great video!

[@kevinday9758]

I built a 7 SAUM several years ago with a 1-8 twist barrel and love it. 180 grain bullet at 2950, it’s funny how barrel twist choices by rifle manufacturers can make or break a cartridge. The 7mm PRC is just the failed short mag rebranded with a faster twist. I hope it works out I’m a fan of the 7mm.

[@MrT13]

Just like a cartridge can be too long it can also be too short… that’s why the 284 case shoots 7’s better than a rem mag or wsm. This is basically a modern shehane 284 or lrm case.

[@McCracken216]

7prc is a long action, not short.

[@christopherhague6279]

Thank you for this very well put together video. My only gripe is a potentially misleading statement at the end by the grey haired gentleman. The velocity (and therefore energy) retention at longer range has nothing to with the cartridge and everything to do with the high BC bullets that the 7 prc is meant to shoot (when compared to SAAMi twist/reamed 7 rem mags, which are not designed to shoot those high-bc bullets) All cartridges are just “vehicles” for muzzle velocity, after the bullet leaves the barrel, it doesn’t care what cartridge it came out of. Secondly, the 7 PRC is average at retaining velocity from shortening barrels, it is almost exactly 25fps per inch velocity reduction from 24” saami standard, which is the industry standard for barrel length versus velocity change. But like I said, great video; I just wanted to bring up the slightly misleading statement that velocity retention downrange is in anyway linked to the cartridge, it is not. Downrange velocity retention is all about bullet performance. But I do concede that some cartridges are made for modern high bc bullets, and some older cartridges are made for old low-bc bullets. Thanks!

[@JP-wl5vj]

How would a 7mm Rem Mag do in a 20" barrel? There's a whole lot more factory ammo for the Rem Mag than the PRC

[@wyattmoore2487]

Very impressive shooting. Been a hunter since i could hold a rifle and since i was 10 shot 308, was thinking of graduating to 300 win, but i might increase the budget a little and try this out

[@Erik7prc]

I ordered a few days ago a bergara hmr wilderness in 7prc. Carolina caliber has 7 of them in stock.....fyi

[@wyattmoore2487]

@ErikisOfficial thank you for that i will look at some. Have you tried the browning xbolt in 7 prc? Or 300 win

[@Erik7prc]

@wyattmoore2487 no but the LR xbolt was a choice for me at first. They magazine only holds 3 rounds and they don't have aftermarket support for bottom metal. Deal breaker for me. I almost went 300wm because I couldn't find a bergara hmr wilderness in 7prc. I ordered a sako s20 precision from euro optic and canceled. They are like 1100 now. They were 1700. Ballistic wise 7prc is the way to go. You will have to wrestle to get brass online if you don't want to shoot hornady match ammo. It's out everywhere

[@wyattmoore2487]

@@Erik7prc alright thanks ill look into bergara i know they make em good

[@TrevorCazes]

man. that was fantastic results especially from factory ammo

[@AirborneSapper82]

Great video !!! and Excellent Shooting !!!!!

[@TheSpeza88]

Great video guys, proper real world data

[@tonystewart7287]

😎😎 Short barrels with suppressors are popular here in NZ, I can see a few 7 PRC being done if we can get the ammo & components

[@loganmorton9304]

I know this is an old comment mate but a fellow kiwi pondering ripping the 24 inch proof off my 7 mag and going with a 20 inch proof sendero chambered in 7prc. Like ya said though. Components are always a problem. Especially for the 7’s.

[@nasseraliazadi9809]

I like your style of comparing, good job boss.

[@normanshanley7417]

awesome video and great shooting guys

[@jerrysmith9935]

great testing that 24in barrel was consistant all shots cant believe how good 20in did on that distance love t see more great video

[@justinyarbrough5464]

I would have liked to seen a 26” barrel as well but I’m sticking with my 7 rem mag until the barrel goes out then really look into the 7 PRC but looks great

[@bigrainbow25]

I just picked up a 7mm PRC in a Remington 700 Long Range w/a 26 in barrel...I know its a crap shoot if you get a good barrel on a 700 but it was only a grand..and if you get a good one they shoot great...I have a 300 Ultra Mag in a Sendero that shoots lights out but I had to buy 2 to get a good one...,Ill put a Trigger Tech Special in it and we will see what happens..

[@bokiNYC]

​@bigrainbow25 It's been a while, how does it shoot? How do you like it? Considering vetting one myself.

[@justincarp7041]

​@bokiNYC spend the extra 200 and get the browning x bolt long range...that blows this guy group's out of the water ...

[@stephenferguson6363]

I have a 24 " custom 300 prc and 20" 6.5 prc im loving the short barrels for hunting exp since the bulk of my kills are under 700 yards the 20 " 7mm would be a perfect pack rife for sheep and mnt goats.

[@joshlower1]

Why are you shooting animals at or past 700 yards anyhow. That's not ethical nor is it even hunting.

[@stephenferguson6363]

@@joshlower1 everyone have their own versions of ethics what you find ethical another person might find despicable.... I practice to 1500 yards with 4 of my rifles every month I don't shoot game that far. I do how ever under ideal conditions shoot to 1000 I spend countless hours honing my skills I don't expect you to understand or even comprehend what I'm saying because chances are you probably have never shot competitively at those distances if you have done so you know better than to say what you have.said in.your post also by definition hunting is the pursuit of a animal for food,or sport or both that's what I'm doing so stick the holier than thou bull shit up your ass

[@brianthompson9485]

@@joshlower1 who made you the arbiter of what is ethical or hunting?

[@matthewkyle6939]

@@joshlower1 don't be a karen.

[@josephvonbenedikt7886]

Awesome video! Well done, chaps. --von Benedikt

[@beastkiler2]

Can't wait to hear your thoughts on this one!

[@Hootie22B]

Great video. Fun to watch that guys shoot he is dang good !!!

[@cray3027]

Great video. Thanks

[@michaelnelson1911]

This was a great video. Thanks for sharing. Have you done a similar test on the 6.5 PRC? That is the next gun/cartridge that I want to purchase, but I haven’t seen anything like this on the 6.5 PRC.

[@stevenwalker9013]

It’s funny watching all the 7 mag guys lose there mind over the 7 prc. I love a 7 mag, but it’s obvious this is a better cartridge. If you have a 7 mag, it’s not worth upgrading. If looking to get a new 7mm, you would be nuts not to get the prc

[@eddielombera5862]

I think it’s more so of PRC owners making it seem like it’s just that much better than the 7rem mag when it’s not. On paper, it’s true, the prc gives you numbers and energy a custom 7rem mag gave you with hand loads and custom, faster twist rate barrel but I’ve yet to see factory ammo that gives you those velocity numbers on the PRC that Hornady claims. So many people are thinking all I need is a 7PRC rifle and factory ammo and I’m all set when that’s not the case… and you can forget the advantage of the 7PRC with anything under a 24 in barrel.

[@MNsportsman]

​@eddielombera5862 they lost less than 50 ft muzzle velocity from 22 to 24. Not sure I would describe that as much of a loss.

[@bigrainbow25]

I own a 280 Ackley Improved Hills Country Sheep rifle...and absolutely love it...but this 7mm prc has my attention... Id buy one if I could find ammo or brass...

[@bigrainbow25]

Quick follow up from my last comment....Talked to Matt at HCR and after finding out ammo is available I will be ordering a gun from them...Like I said I love my 280 they built

[@MrT13]

It’s gonna probably be as big as the 6.5cm cause now everyone wants to be a 1000 yard shooter. The support is pretty much happening already.

[@valiant545]

Man the hunting/long range shooting community *really* gets toxic over new rounds lol. Half the comments are boomers saying that XYZ legacy cartridge is just as good/better or saying there is no point to the cartridge since "hunters" don't shoot long range (which translates to, THEY don't shoot long range). Its like everyone gets super defensive of their choice gun and cartridge and can't let anyone else have fun with the new stuff. Thanks for the numbers, interesting to see how will the 7 PRC performed out of the 20 inch. 24 inch wasn't as big a difference as I thought it would be.

[@Marcusb338]

It’s actually beyond belief how dumb some of the arguments are. One guys trying to tell me the rem mag has better performance because his gun apparently gets 3000fps with a 195gr. I’d love to know how long the barrel is and how long that brass lasts. It’s literally right there on paper, the PRC has a solid almost 100fps advantage. No serious long range hunter will choose a rem mag over the PRC. Why would you pick a cartridge with less performance with the same powder charge, need a custom barrel, and need a custom mag ( in most rifles ) to be able to run heavy projectiles at the right length? The rem mag will slowly fade out like the 260 rem. And I’ve got a rem mag, but it’s just not designed for what people want today.

[@MrT13]

Anyone who argues about any cartridge doing something a long time ago 50 years earlier etc only looks grain and fps. They don’t understand the bullets made them that xxx size are very different than almost everything today same weight. And certainly they dunno wtf makes a shehane. They just think we all still shoot a .284 is all they know. So anytime that comes up it’s just lack of knowledge. “260 and 6.5x55 are just as good as the needsmore” ppl…

[@edgarlombera7066]

@@Marcusb338 the 7prc won’t overtake the 7rem mag anytime soon lol a 100fps advantage isn’t really impressive. If my main hunting involves long range shooting then I’ll take a 28 nosler or the older 7mm rum.

[@J_Un1t]

Yep, gotta remember none of this nonsense on here matters. Buy what fits your needs and if you can get enough components to shoot a lot if you can’t find any for a while. What anybody else thinks about your stuff is irrelevant

[@mrjeffjob]

I just got burned jumping on the 6 ARC too soon. Can’t get brass and nobody but Hornady loads for it. So when building my elk rifle I wanted the PRC but went with the Rem mag because I’m going to see if the PRC has legs. I did get the Proof barrel with the 8.44 twist so that’s the main thing between the two cartridges.

[@manmain4813]

Watched this video because the new Ruger American gen 2 has a 20” barrel. Now I am the proud owner of a gen 2 in 7prc

[@dachsunddad3177]

Great video!

[@kevingeary1472]

Great video

[@ChronicalsofAl]

Chris Ferguson if you believe that , then you haven't really looked at the numbers. There are several reasons why the cartridge is better than what we have out there in a commercially available round

[@javiersp01]

Shortest won the match !!! 👏👏👏👏

[@futurechamp2]

Great video, thanks for the work

[@jameseroh6544]

The point of the new cartridges is no lead bullets restrictions. Since copper is lighter than lead. A longer, higher ballistic coefficient bullets will be needed. As well as a 1 in 8 twist rate to stabilize bullets. To differentiate the cartridge from lower twist rate cartridges. A slightly different cartridge was developed. If no lead bullets are NOT an issue for the hunter.. The new cartridges may not be so compelling to buy. I have short range rifles like 350 Legend and 45Colt for some situations. But for my longer range rifles such as the .308 and 270 Win. The new cartridges may produce better outcomes with no lead bullets. One of my nephews has a 6.5 PRC. And I have a 6.5 Creedmoor that I bought to introduce my grandkids to long range shooting. So it seems to me, that over time. The new cartridges will become as popular as the 270 Win, 308 Win, and the 30-06. The 7mm crowd, may just collect ALL the variations of 7mm.

[@jetdr]

was not expecting that out of a 20"

[@bokiNYC]

Same here 👍

[@vincentboileau1991]

I'm not here to bash, but at one point, you say that thru your testing, you felt low recoil with no supressor/muzzle brake... but we can clearly see a muzzle break on all 3. I'm saying this because I'm actually considering buying a 7 prc with a 22"inch, but I'm afraid it might have too much kick without muzzle brake.. Thanks for any help

[@justincarp7041]

The 7 prc had very low recoil ..my daughter shoots it all day without a recoil pad and she is a tiny girl

[@lars277]

Having a 20" barrel on a cartridge like this is insane. That would equate to putting a very restrictive single exhaust pipe on a hi-performance engine.

[@jmgates09]

Sometimes the surface u drive on needs less HP to go down it faster just like shooting out of blinds the 20 in is much better than a 24 or 26

[@tonykoenig1548]

I want to see this test on 26”, 30”, 32” barrels for performance Thank You

[@blakebarber8290]

Man nobody is going to run 30" long barrels. Why would you need to after seeing what this caliber is capable of out of a 20"?

[@stevoky]

What does it have over 7mm wsm? I can find nothing.

[@davidlaroche8928]

Great video thank you. Im curious if yall have a similar video in 300 PRC ?

[@Skilpadjie1]

Strange it dropped less with the 22" then the 24" on 500 yards

[@ericwilson3053]

It didn’t, they hit the bottom of the target, so the dope was off on that one.

[@graynotescartridgebox]

Agree. Look at the impact watermarks.

[@stevenwalker9013]

@@ericwilson3053yeah I’m guessing the mil/Moa would be the same on a center impact. After 500 is when the mil gap opened up. But not much. I was banging my head trying to find a lightweight 24”. But, now I think I may go with a 22” since that’s what most of the $1500 $2500 rifle companies are producing in sub 6.5 pound hunting rifle. Seems to not lose much of anything in velocity or accuracy. It’s just that cartridge is meant to be extreme long range capable and shortening the barrel seems counterintuitive. But, if your getting a full powder burn not sure it matters. Even long range comp shooters are moving away from 29 to 30” barrels down to 27 to 28”

[@treckon3112]

Savage Arms just came out with thier 7prc with 20" carbon proof bbl and in an ultralight Hunt-26 MDT stock (5.8 lbs all in)

[@jaybailleaux630]

Looks like it would be a cartridge for F class high power target shooters. I know short fat case design plays a small roll in the accuracy game. Don't see an advantage for hunters over existing cartridges.

[@larrythompson5617]

Can you be more specific on muzzle brake design and model.

[@mattbrewer5808]

So I noticed the 22” shots seemed to struggle a bit more. Why do you think that was?

[@texastrojan3343]

Do you happen to know the muzzle velocity on the 22” and 20”?

[@justusballard9503]

The 24" rifle chronographed at 2965fps, 22" at 2871fps, and the 20" ran 2852.

[@xxshiftlockxx]

Straight from the beginning of the video: 20" 2862, 22" 2927, 24" 2965

[@n2trkys18]

Hmm. I’m shooting a 160 grain Accubond at 2950 fps out of a factory 22” barrel in a short action. This is 15 grains heavier and about 30 fps slower and has to be shot in a long action. Thanks for this video. This vid just solidified my original choice.

[@MrT13]

You do not own a more efficient 7 unless it’s a shehane or lrm. A short fat 175 at 2900 does not go as far or do what a long skinny 175 does. And whatever you own if it’s more than about 15 years old it’s not a comparison. No matter what it is. Don’t just rely on numbers on the box. That’s what 260 and 6.5x55 guys do. Then they buy an actual good modern 140 pill and find out it’s stuffed so far down they are now 200 fps under the 6.5 needsmore. Just cause they saw 140 2800 vs 140 2800.

[@MrT13]

Not to mention wsm’s are not that accurate.

[@andrebosgraaf2086]

@@MrT13 the are shot world records with the 300wsm at 1000 yards .

[@MrT13]

@@andrebosgraaf2086 some sure. Couple of ppl have put in a lot of effort etc. But that’s like saying there are world records with .308 too. Cause there was… but the current, world record of 200-22x was not set with a wsm. So currently, no it does not hold any. Not that I’m aware of anyway.

[@MrT13]

@@andrebosgraaf2086 it’s great don’t get me wrong. But to control it with even 22 lbs is just a bit more than most can actually do consistently. Which is part of that accuracy. Personally I think it’s a bit too short and fast to be truly square and therefore no not as inherently accurate as say the .284s

[@T-ROY_69]

Awesome video, bud! I'd love to get a custom 7prc in an 18" or 20" barrel with a suppressor. What is the twist on the 20" barrel? Thank you! 🇺🇸

[@justusballard9503]

1:8 Twist!

[@dvskane1808]

Don’t go shorter than 20”.

[@T-ROY_69]

Thank you, gentlemen! 🇺🇸

[@jacklewis3444]

I’ve never heard of your company. Wild guess, I assume y’all are located in central Texas? I work at McBrides Guns in Austin. Y’all should swing by the store sometime and show us your rifles.

[@justusballard9503]

We are located in New Braunfels, right down the road from you!

[@jacklewis3444]

@@justusballard9503 i could tell. I asked around at work and everyone speaks very highly of your rifles.

[@radhialjohny]

What is the better Length for 338 lapua barrel and thickness.

[@WallyMerc06]

he didn't seem to shoot the 22" barrel as well......very impressive though

[@thepiedpiper-i7x]

I’d like to correct you on your statement that you’re not aware of any cartridge that does so well in short 20” brl’s! I knew the PRC would do it well, but try out the 7MM RSAUM and you’ll be even more surprised with the results!

[@richardmartinek3467]

Could you do a 6.5 prc?

[@LowellMcClain]

Hello. I really enjoyed your video for I am considering the 7 PRC set-up. However, I am writing wondering who the shooter is in the video. The reason I ask is because he looks like a close friend of mine from a long time ago (the early 80's) who I lost contact with shortly after we completed a large project together in LA. If he recognizes my face then lpease have him contact me if that is possible. Thanks in advance.

[@TheGunNerd]

Full video when?

[@karar799]

Good

[@MrJtin69]

I own a 20 and 26 for 7 mm prc

[@kfarrer2160]

Is the 20” proof a sendero light contour?

[@randyrucker01]

A decent muzzle brake will help with the recoil….

[@calhoun-xl8cq]

Is this at ftw ranch? I have shot there and it looks really familiar.

[@ThemantleofElijah]

That man can shoot, must be a Marine

[@justusballard9503]

Army

[@CEdwards-yf3fp]

I hope you will answer this question. I see no one asking for verification of the velocity results in this video. Energy is a product of mass/velocity, correct? How are you achieving 1668 FPE at 800 yards, with the 175 ELD-X FACTORY LOAD? According to Strelok, you would need 3080 FPS with that bullet, to achieve 1664 FPE at 800 yards. And all the comments I see here, are just assuming the numbers shown are factual. I will agree with one response... 100 fps gain is not enough to sell me on a new rifle. At 800 yards, using the same bullet, that gain is greatly diminished. I'm a dedicated 6.5 PRC shooter, and 6.8W. As well as 7 RM. I have wanted to jump into the 7PRC game, but honest results in must rifles are not showing the results Hornady advertises. I hope you'll do another video, to dive more deeply into this topic, specifically as it relates to the 7PRC. Maybe even do a side by side comparison to a closely matched 7RM. Thanks

[@asanta5390]

I'd like to see 7wsm against 7 prc . AND why do you guy's in the U S always use breaks ????? . Cheers 🍻

[@kendole5931]

Because our process to acquire a suppressor takes over a year sometimes.

[@WillyK51]

How about taking a used 300 Wby or 7 MM Wby unscrewing the Barrel ,Setting it back to accept the 300 Win or the 7MM Rem Mag. and reaming. Ok Fireformed Custom cases that won't fit a standard 300 Win or 7MM Rem, but standard Cartridges will fit, No new Rifle or Barrel, $750 -$1500. Ok Twist, 1-10 for 300 cal will stabilize 200 -212 Grns, and 1-9.5 for 7 MM 180-190 Grns, Posible ?

[@Marcusb338]

1-9.5 twist will only stabilise 162gr projectiles in the rem mag. You can still shoot the heavier ones but your BC will be way lower than it should be, could even tumble

[@SpudOutdoors]

You can get factory 7 mag rifles in 1:8

[@WillyK51]

@@SpudOutdoors Mind comenting which?

[@MrT13]

@@WillyK51 a few. Browning. But it’s pointless now that they have this modern cartridge that does the same.

[@WillyK51]

@@MrT13 I know, you can buy a 300PRC or 7MM PRC or a 28 Nosler. BUT tinkering is always fun. Otherwise no one would customize their old guns

[@lavanice]

What about 6.5 cm in 22 and 24 inch barrel

[@jdirt1982]

Patiently waiting for bergara to chamber in 7prc

[@Erik7prc]

I got one from Carolina Caliber Company. Check em out

[@MsDynnez]

How Big were those Targets?

[@CEdwards-yf3fp]

You did not post velocities. With all the failed velocity results shared by many 7PRC shooters, your Energy Numbers can only be helpful and reliable, if you share the actual tested velocity results. Hardly anyone is getting the Hornady advertised velocities from factory 7PRC ammunition. Hornady claims 3000 fps, but most videos online are showing 2800-2900 fps, which is pretty close to 7mm RM performance.

[@winterwolf13]

What is the conversion of mils to inch

[@danielbell4007]

1 mil is 3.4 moa

[@hoviggh]

Of all the modern cartridges out there the 300 PRC makes sense to me, the only downside to it is the short barrel life.

[@supersubes]

The PRC has no shorter a life than the 300 WM. It is a great cartridge, agreed, but most dont want the recoil. This 7mm is a way better choice for imo, despite it having a much shorter life than the 300 PRC.

[@ArkenNation]

I really like the way mine shoots, personally I like the 30’s over the 7’s

[@dvskane1808]

@@supersubeswhy would the 7prc have a shorter barrel life than a 300prc?? The 300 is faster and more burn, or did I misunderstand the comment?

[@supersubes]

@@dvskane1808 Speed doesn’t matter in the slightest with regard to barrel life, but the 300 is not faster than the 7. The 300 is burning more powder but through a larger hole, and the barrels are lasting several hundred rounds longer than the 7 PRC.

[@jiajianhou426]

800 yard first 2 shots are in the same hole omg.

[@mikemelina7395]

That 20" is a tack driver.

[@dvskane1808]

So your telling me I need a 7mm prc… I thank you, on the other hand my wallet hates you!

[@jamespmullin21753]

Someone's playing army.

[@justusballard9503]

"Played" Army for 7 years, 4 of those in Iraq and Afghanistan. That Boonie Hat has seen more combat than most of these "Keyboard Warriors". You are welcome for my service.

[@jamespmullin21753]

What is wrong with long action rifles?

[@hotramen5952]

long actions are heavier than short actions and are less accurate in general. its a lot of little fidgety things that add up to short fat cartridges being more accurate in general.

[@victorshults242]

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[@danelobe2524]

Rebarrel a 7mm to a tighter twist and a deeper throat chamber. Now you can shoot these bigger better bullets the prc bores are launching. However with the 7mm you have more case capacity. That new 7mm will blow the prc away. Plus you can find 7mm ammo. Don't buy into the hype.

[@Marcusb338]

The rem mag? Has more capacity sure. But capacity isn’t the whole story. Case geometry plays a huge part. Way more efficient, you’re getting higher velocity with less powder. Now why would you want to go and do all those mods to another 7mm, when you can pick up a PRC that performs better with zero work, and factory ammo may I add to that?

[@danelobe2524]

@@Marcusb338 why a 7mm.with a new berrel, because it's a better value, and a better cartridge. Not to me mention it's faster and flatter shooting the same bullets. The pennies your saving per 20 rounds on powder doesn't matter. Your under performance does. The 7 PRC is a gimic and all hype.

[@Marcusb338]

@@danelobe2524 7mm what? I have no clue what you mean by 7mm? There’s dozens of 7mm cartridges. How’s it a gimmick? What other rifle can you buy off the shelf with matching ammo that shoots a 0.79 BC projectile at near 3000fps. I own a rem mag but it’s outdated and has issues. The twist rate limits me to 160gr projectiles or less. And the mag length in my tikka means I can’t seat the projectile out far enough to get good powder capacity. All I need to do is put a new barrel on and I can shoot whatever projectile I want, 100fps quicker with the same powder charger, and have zero stress with mag length. 3 pretty big selling points right there. Nobody buys 260 remingtons anymore now the 6.5 creed exists. I bet everyone said it was a gimmick back then but why would you buy a 260 when a 6.5 is on the shelf and is far more optimised for heavy projectiles that have higher sectional densities for bigger game, and retain far more velocity and energy for long range hunting or targets.

[@danelobe2524]

@@Marcusb338 7mm remington magnum. This cartridge also has 82.0gr H2 case capacity. Rebarreled with a longer throat and a faster twist you now have a cartridge that can shoot these high BC bullets faster and flatter and just as accurate. It all marketing garbage and writer hype to get you the consumer to buy the ""new" improved caliber. It's because you dont understand the dynamics of ballistics you fall for the BS. We were excited when these new bullets came out because we know what we can do with them in the 7mm remington magnum with a barrel made to shoot these high BC bullets. But I'm not going to short change it's potential by shooting these new bullets in a cartridge that doesn't match the 82.0gr H20 advantage it has over the weak smaller 7 PRC. The guys who aren't reloading there LRGuns aren't shooters anyway, of any sincerity. There posers, and we have a lot of BS'ers here .....

[@brianthompson9485]

I want to buy a 7mm for hunting. You're suggesting getting a 7mm Rem Mag and re-barreling vs just purchasing the PRC? Craziness...

[@gc641]

Meh…I’ll stick to my 280AI

[@12318150]

Certainly doesn't look like it's better than a 7 mag to justify spending $20-$30 extra a box.

[@Marcusb338]

There is no cartridge that’s better or worse in performance. Obviously a .22LR and 300rum have different uses. But optimisation and being flexible is a huge selling point now. You can do everything in the PRC that the rem mag can do, but the rem mag was never made for heavy projectiles. Which is the major selling point. People aren’t going to run out and sell their rem mags tomorrow. But when someone’s in the market for a long range deer rifle the 7PRC would have the be at the top of the list. There’s no way you’d pick the rem mag over it. Which is what I’ll do in a couple years, get a nice 24 inch barrel to put on my rem mag and do everything my rem mag could do but with 100fps more, and being able to handle 162-195gr bullets that the old rem mag can’t

[@corygamble9785]

Not with the kind of factory accuracy and performance it won’t. 40$ a box bullets aren’t shooting game consistently at 800-1200 yards, or anything for that matter, not an old design anyway

[@12318150]

@@corygamble9785 you have zero clue what you're talking about. I bought a whole case of 7mag Hornady eldx last year for $42/box that punch groups that touch out of a Tikka.

[@12318150]

@@corygamble9785 Gunwerks flagship rifle was chambered in 7 mag and they promptly proved it on elk at 1200 yds.

[@SpudOutdoors]

@@Marcusb338 did you just say a 7 rem mag can’t handle up to a 195gn, have you been living under a rock. I have a saami chamber 7 mag and shooting a 195gn 2912 and if I have n570 I could go over 3000. That load beat every one in that video with the same amount of grains in the 7 mag.

[@renaissanceman5847]

doesnt really accomplish anything more than what a 338 lapua, especially neck sized only handloads on 500 yard plus ranges. as for hunting, and in texas... most hunters dont shoot past 300 yards... and vast majority of them dont have the skills to hit anything out to 500 anyway. knowing that whats the point of owning the PRC for hunting when a 7mm-08 or a 260 Remington is cheaper, more common, just as precise out to 300yrds and can take down a horse just the same and easier on the shoulder?

[@valiant545]

If you aren't hunting at 500 yards, you aren't who this rifle is for. You answered your own question. Stick with whatever you want to stick with and let the long range hunters play with the new cartridge. You can stay sub 300 in Texas all you want.

[@Marcusb338]

Great, sounds like you don’t need one then! But for the people who want a great all rounder off the shelf that’s capable of extreme long range it’s the best option. Name a single gun you can pick up off the shelf that shoots flatter with factory ammo, and doesn’t blow your shoulder off with recoil while burning 100gr of powder like a 28 nosler or 338 lap. Why does everyone get so mad when people want to get something that shoots extremely flat. It’s like you’re offended that someone will buy a gun that’s capable of 1500y but only shoots at 300 tops. So what? Just because it can shoot far doesn’t make it bad for close range 😂

[@renaissanceman5847]

@@Marcusb338 because it doesn't do anything significantly better than what is already cheaply available. All these new rounds are nothing more than renamed cartridge's with a tiny tweak to avoid a patent issue., most that have existed for more than 50 years. Remember the 6.8 creedmore? the 6.5-06 beats it in the velocity department by 300fps using old neck sized 30-06 brass thats over 100 years old. how bout the 260 Remington that took the long range tacical competitions long before the 6.5 creed... get yourself a reloading manual and see for yourself... all these new rounds are nothing new... its all about muzzle velocity and bullet weight... and you cannot change how much powder it takes to move a bullet a given velocity. and when you have only 100fps difference... thats simply a waste of money. this is all about selling new rifles, , new ammo, new reloading dies, new brass and above all new rifles.. this new PRC is nothing but a rebranded 7mm WSM with a 5 deg change in neck angle and neck length of +0.1" so that they can call it a new round from a different manufacturer. and anyone that thinks recoil changes despite the velocity of the same weight bullet is a moron. you cant get around the laws of physics. this crap happened back in the 1990s when the 300 whisper by SSK came out... but nooo... they rebranded the same round by a big manufacturer and called it the 300 black out... they are now doing the same thing with the new 8.6 blackout... aka 338 whisper of the 1990s. this is all a tacti-cool money grab. 95% of people that own these rifles cant shoot past 500 yards to save their life to begin with. I once meet an old hunter at our camp that Ive been going to for 30 years... all his shots were neck shots... pigs, coyotes, does, (didnt shoot bucks, he said does tasted better)... never missed. shot out to 200 yards rarely to 300... and all he had was the same 40 year old 7mm-08 with the same old 3-9 Leopold duplex scope. yet none of these kids with their new hot Ultra mags, 300 WSMs and 300 PRCs, wind gauges, range finders, scent blockers mossy oak crap could ever match his success for taking game for 30 years plus.

[@Marcusb338]

@@renaissanceman5847 it is nothing groundbreaking. These new ones are just better optimised for a wider range of purposes. Wanna know why the 260 and the 6.5-06 faded away? they had good velocity sure, but slow twist rates from factory that limit them to light projectiles, that in conjunction with their speed absolutely explode when they hit deer. Velocity is just a secondary factor these days. It’s all about being able to use the heaviest bullet you possibly can. The rem mag which the PRC is really aimed at is fine how it is, I’ve got one myself. But for someone who wants to have the ( option ) for long range work, you’d be stupid to pick a rem mag up when it has 100fps less velocity with the same powder charge and a slow twist rate that’s limited to 162gr projectiles or so. The other problem with the rem mag in many rifles is mag length, it was never designed to seat long projectiles at 3.340 COAL which is what many rifle magazines are. It’s not about convincing people to run out and sell their rifles to get something that’s groundbreaking and new. It’s just many small improvements that make sense to choose it as your next rifle. once PRC ammo and components are available I can’t see a single upside to picking up a rem mag over it. I believe it does fit a niche. I love the 7mm bore and have always wanted a really nice cartridge that is capable of very long range yet is at a nice recoil level. The two at the moment are the rem mag, (7mmWSM which barely anyone makes and has a slow twist ) and 28 nosler. The rem mag is great but has the issue of the slow twist rate in the vast majority of factory rifles, and the nosler is massively overbore which most people can’t handle. Yes Hornady is crazy with their marketing, but at what point is it still a gimmick? how many rifles and ammo makers need to take it up before it’s decided maybe people do want it? You can argue nobody really “ needs” more than a 30-30 so everything else is a gimmick.

[@ArkenNation]

Because the essence of the RENNAISANCE mindset is the increase of excellence, to argue that the 7mm rem mag does it as well as needed, is not in line with our creative ethos

[@chrisferguson1911]

So, Hornady was running out of Kool-Aid, so they made another cartridge that doesn't do anything more than what came before. Spend your bucks and drink up.

[@rickyspeakman4445]

7mm remington mag. Does the same thing! No need for a new cartridge.

[@BB-nw3mj]

Except it doesnt...they are showing energy readings of greater than 1600 ft/lbs at 800 yards. The 7Mag doesn't have that at 500 yards with the same weight projectile...or any weight for that matter.

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

@@BB-nw3mj I assume you're talking about factory ammo? There are actually plenty of factory ammo in 7mm Rem mag that can get over 1600ft.lbs of energy at 500 yards. Hornady 162 gr ELD-X has 1772 ft.lbs at 500. The Remington Swift Scirocco 150 gr has 1707 ft.lbs at 500 yards. The Nosler 168 gr ABLR has 1822ft.lbs at 500. But I get what you're saying... if you don't reload the 7mm PRC obviously has a bunch more power. But what happens if you do reload for the 7mm Rem mag? They are much close than you think. A 7mm Rem mag with a 175 gr ELD-X handloaded at 2900 FPS is within 100ft.lbs of energy at 800 yards to the 7mm PRC. So maybe Ricky does handload his 7mm Rem mag?

[@BB-nw3mj]

Yes I was trying to make an apples to apples comparison with factory ammunition…. And not how much Retumbo someone can stuff in a seven mag case. But in a way you made my point for me…. The author of the original post here did not feel like there was any value in this new cartridge and that there was redundancy with the seven mag. But for those shooting factory ammunition there is a fairly significant difference. And I haven’t studied the case capacitity on seven PRC yet enough to comment about the possibilities of also loading it hotter. Also I’m not taking anything away from seven mag…. It’s a fantastic cartridge.

[@ReloadingWeatherby]

@@BB-nw3mj Here is my point... I don't ever buy factory ammo, it's become expensive, and I can make much more accurate ammo reloading. I get the appeal of the 7mm PRC for the masses that don't reload. But as someone that always reloads... It's just another cartridge that is a little faster than a 7mag. By the way I'm not a 7mag fan, in fact I think it's a little overrated. And it's factory ammo is not great.

[@Marcusb338]

No it doesn’t lol. The 7 rem mag can’t stabilise anything over 162gr with a high BC. And the 7prc gets 100fps extra with the exact same powder charge. And I’m a 7mm rem mag owner

[@janisvanags3196]

Most stupid test.

[@Liamisdead99]

I think there comparing that you don’t need a long barrel to have a good long range build, so this is a great test

[@Erik7prc]

​@FOG5.56x45 he's miserable 😄

[@jdirt1982]

I'd like to see a redo of this video now Hornady is using a different powder.....

[@jordanr8312]

This an amazing review. Full of info, easy to follow and no nonsense. Thank you for the content and info @hillcountryrifles

[@MNsportsman]

Great video!