The JFK-AKL route is very interesting to watch especially for an aviation geek like me NZ has beautiful Aircrafts and stuff but Qantas is Legitimately Crushing Air New Zealand since their comeback to JFK this past June
@PackJetRoam Жыл бұрын
Yes Qantas does have a far superior business class hard product in comparison to Air NZ, which will steal a lot of business travelers. Not to mention that Air NZ have to limit their weight on the west bound flight which Qantas can eliminate once they get the A350ULR bringing in more revenue per flight.
@andrewwakldnz Жыл бұрын
Not Air NZ's fault, but never would I ever take this flight! 2.5 hours waiting to disembark. Crazy! JFK obv as disdainful of its long haul passengers as LAX. 👎
@PackJetRoam Жыл бұрын
Ended up being longer than the westbound flight, but better than getting diverted to Rarotonga or Nadi which is probably longer given that has happened multiple times since the launch
@andrewwakldnz Жыл бұрын
@@PackJetRoam Yeah you can't help but wonder whether dropping London to do this has been a huge mistake. It may make sense on paper, but with all the disrupts and reduced loading no way can they be be making money on this. And that's before Qantas starts competing!!
@PackJetRoam Жыл бұрын
tbh I think they chose the wrong aircraft to launch this route, or at least the wrong configuration, since both SQ and QF uses longer range aircrafts and reduced capacity configuration to achieve these flights, also meaning more comfort for such a long duration if they spread it out a bit more, it wasn't the most uncomfortable though to be fair, but more legroom is always better. I wonder whether they are planning a reduced capacity config cabin when they install the cabin with skybed since there's no room to put that thing unless they take out a galley which I don't think they could, and probably for them to launch it on these ultra long haul would be more beneficial as people will be able to rest better and maybe longer. If they want to stick to the Dreamliner maybe they could have negotiated to have it built like the A350ULR where they utilize the 787-10 body and fit extra fuel tanks for longer ranger plus more/same capacity, although I actually think Air NZ didn't think they needed to given we're not too far from the Pacific Islands and Hawaii where they can always divert to, for Singapore that's a little more difficult as there's no airports in the North Pacific Ocean hence they need more fuel for diversion maybe? In saying that QF is using an ULR aircraft as well so who knows.
@PackJetRoam Жыл бұрын
could chopping London be due to the highly competitive market? Emirates, Qatar, Singapore Airlines or even in their case making a stop with access to Delta, AA, United, Jetblue all fly towards there so there's not much of a point to do a stop and then continue onwards with so many competition. NY is a good stopping point I suppose for people wanting to connect to London given that is a very competitive route and there's always cheaper fares going, and many carriers to choose from to connect to other parts of Europe, I have to try out Jetblue one day given how underrated they are
@andrewwakldnz Жыл бұрын
@@PackJetRoam Yes, agree. Wrong aircraft. Do they have 787-10's on order, or just new, differently configured, 787-9's?? Either way, rather than dealing with changing carriers / missing connections /losing bags etc 'somewhere' in the USA to get to the UK, I'm way more likely now to pick a Middle Eastern (had a great experience with Qatar to Adelaide and back recently) or Asian carrier (NOT SQ!), that can provide a more seamless connection. As a v loyal Air NZ customer of many years it pains me to say that, but I know I'm far from alone in thinking this way :(
@alexanderkingdon632 Жыл бұрын
It’s not the longest flight in the world.
@PackJetRoam Жыл бұрын
well blame youtube for title word restriction and also without making it slightly clickbaity it's not gonna generate views right, but I did state the fact that it is the 5th longest flight on the thumbnail so you just have to look over there to find the truth