Onn 4k Pro Streaming Box Followup: USB Devices, Wi-Fi 6 Testing and DACs

[@ShoelessJP]

Commenting for engagement metric purposes, not something I was personally interested in but I ALWAYS watch your videos.

[@LonSeidman]

Thank you! What do you like to watch ?

[@ShoelessJP]

@@LonSeidman I'm a big fan of the Plex stuff... you're the only one I'm aware of doing anything like it and it's GREAT as I am a lifetime Plex Pass subscriber! Having watched you many years I am aware of the fact product reviews drive a lot of your revenue, and you have said before that those reviews help make Plex content possible. Thus why I'm commenting. 👍

[@BigFredddy68]

@@LonSeidman Question I have 2 ONN Boxes and neither 1 has the Remote with the Backlight (Big Blue Button that say's" Live TV" missing) also when I click on Settings then click on Privacy scroll down there's NO option for Google Assistant or Purchase History can somebody please help? THANKS

[@archiemadison764]

​@@LonSeidman hello I noticed you mentioned a DAC for audio ...... It will work with a Bluetooth DAC that's how I can mine connected even the stick will work with a Bluetooth DAC have a great day

[@grayrabbit2211]

We hooked up a USB webcam to ours and ran Google Meet on it! The trick is plugging the camera in, then rebooting, and it worked great.

[@LonSeidman]

It worked fine on mine without rebooting but the app is very limited.

[@Tugennov]

it's awesome that you do follow-up videos to address questions. You're the best!

[@chrisad1177]

Found my 2021 Onn 4k box recently and started using it again, but this one has me intrigued. Still waiting for a proper Shield replacement

[@SteveMartinUSA]

I'm wondering what you think will be on the Nvidia replacement that's over and above? I really like this one but can't get it to read my large SSDs.

[@micahwagoner6114]

@LonSeidman I personally have tested audio DACs with my Onn Pro, and have gotten some to work! I have tested my Presonus Audiobox USB and Audinate Dante AVIO-USB, both working fully out of box. The only DAC I tested that did not work was the Behringer UMC202HD. For anyone interested!

[@LonSeidman]

Thanks! I should get a few more for testing

[@mrnguyenphutai]

would a usb-c dongle (the one that work well with android and iphone) work with this device bro ?

[@_ston3bridge]

Why test it with exFAT but not NTFS? I imagine most who connect any type of external drive will be in NTFS so that would have been useful to know.

[@skippyi6969]

NTFS ? WRONG ! A lot of people like me run mac os and windows machines in the same house and on the same LAN. Exfat is recognized by MacOS and windows whereas NTFS is not unless you add an app to MacOs. There's your lesson for the day.

[@l31007]

@_ston3bridge I want to know about NTFS too.

[@Wize817]

Thank you LON! In 5 min I got my answer about Onn 4K Pro device not being a better than Nvidia Shield for GAMING--even with 10 Gig wifi! 😂Just the fact that you ACTUALLY TESTED this for us unlike so many other click-bait Ytubers is so AWESOME! Guys PLEASE SUB to this guy if you havent already. He's one of the few tech reviewers that ACTUALLY TESTS these devices like a Pro-sumer and ANSWERS questions we all want to know unlike 95% of Ytubers. He's old-school (Apple II era) 🍎 NO BS, Honest about the pros AND CONS. *His Nvidia Shield video on AMZ was by far the best and gave me info I havent seen anywhere! I watched 20+ videos before I see any details like he delivers. I will definitely click/buy thru his links to support him. 😎👍

[@DannyTan6675]

Dang, I wish I mentioned some questions about Emulation Performance. Maybe you can do a text followup about emulation in a community post?

[@JamesDLegan]

Is there a way to turn off the feature when I ask Onn 4K pro Google a question it turns on the tv and speakers to answer the question? If I tell it to turn something on it does without turning everything on, but I cannot find a setting to not have it to just answer using the Onn speaker and not the tv, etc.

[@AlejandroMX11]

Can you cast music to this device when TV or monitor is off? (i want to use like nest audio)

[@clarencemumphrey]

Lon, I can't get my USB to work with anything. Is there a setting I'm not turning on? I tried a mouse, a USB drive, and a video file. nothing works.

[@azizfilho]

How do you forward and backward the recording?

[@debbieferreira8755]

Thanks!

[@LonSeidman]

Thank you for your support!

[@ramn2020]

is it possible to use the box also for sound output via its inbuilt speaker when the box is connected to a speaker less monitor

[@dmo848]

Bluetooth speaker will fit that bill

[@michaelrobin8303]

I can't get my wireless mini key board to pair via the USB dongle. Any suggestions?

[@RKingis]

RTFM

[@AB-wl5ny]

Please, can you tell me if the device is also able to write to the exfat usb? I want a streaming device that is able to read and write to a format that it is not limited by fat32's 4gb limit.

[@user-of4sd1rm8r]

Hi, is there any news or a fix, for setting up the ONN Pro outside the US and PR, following the recent geo block software update which now renders these devices useless?

[@paulleggett9735]

Sorry was the dac connected via usb? I couldnt see. If so, it won't work as Google stopped audio via usb support in android 12.

[@douglasmontgomery6315]

Does it also support NTFS?

[@azizfilho]

How to forward, backward and pause a recorded game from you tube tv?

[@bikeny]

From all the videos of this item that I have watched, it seems there are about 3 different remote controls and it is basically a crap shoot as to which one is in a given box. The one that seems to be the most desirable one is the back-lit one. Did you get the back-lit one with your device? And regardless of the options, how has the voice control with the remote been going with yours?

[@LonSeidman]

Got the cheap remote unfortunately but the finder works at least. Voice control is very good on this - a key strength

[@darrenp5053]

I got the black remote, no backlight. the remote works great, voice works great. The white remote is the same as the black, just different color. I have the white remote with my original onn 4k 2021 model, it works great now as well, except when I first bought the 2021 onn 4k, the remote disconnected occasionally but was soon fixed by a software update. I guess I like the remote I got because I am already familiar with the key layout as it is the same as the remote from the 2021 box I have.

[@timmoss6372]

What type of web browser can use

[@RKingis]

Not Chrome!

[@Mesrop109]

I got one. When connected to a Bluetooth speaker it will sometimes default to its own built in speaker for audio. It’s a glitch. Or it won’t give any sound at all until you disconnect and reconnect Bluetooth.

[@julioca918]

Thanks for the update i appreciate these deeper drives into products

[@joseserrano7052]

Can this handle an 5tb and up hard drive filled with data to play locally? I wanna buy one of these instead of a shield

[@andyross63]

You mentioned you were unsure about devices that had a button for remote finder. Well, my Roku Ultra has a button on the side that, when pressed, triggers a remote finder ping. Not sure if it has other functions, like factory reset.

[@SteveMartinUSA]

I've tried an 8GB Seagate (powered), but it says the drive is corrupt. Same message for two 4TB SSDs (Crucial x10, Sandisk extreme portable), and a 2TB Crucial x10 (all unpowered). The only thing that worked in my test was a 256GB Sandisk Extreme Go thumb drive (unpowered). All are formatted exFAT, and all work in my Windows Laptop, iPad, or plugged directly into the Android TV port. Also, I tried with a USBC to USBA adapter and a cable with USBC on one end and USBA on the other. I really want this to work because I otherwise love the device. Also, I'm looking forward to the release of the new Google TV Streamer.

[@MoeMentos]

Hi Lon, do you have any insight about why this is shipping with three different types of remotes? I received mine today and was crossing my fingers that I'd get the backlit version, but no dice. Evidently there's also a third variant with an extra button (or two?). Seems like a total mess!

[@tonywilliams5455]

This box has me frustrated!! Was working fine until about a week ago. Now it won't connect to my wifi. I've reset my box as well as my wifi but still won't connect. I bought another device for my brother and same thing at his house. Connect get it to connect to wifi even on setup. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

[@reticularimus]

Thanks Lon! You covered all of the remaining features! Fantastic! Greatly appreciated!

[@LaPineBear]

i wonder if you could go into the google home app, and set it to send audio to a different device, for example itself, i know with the google mini I can set it in the google home app to send audio to Bluetooth speakers, or even the no longer sold Chromecast audio, instead of the hdmi device the tv in this case.

[@bjberge]

will it up confront everything to doby vison and doby autmos 4k

[@bjberge]

Can use it with my logitech harmony elite remote with hub ?

[@treypop123]

I'd be interested to see if a USB cable tuner would work with this

[@MarshallJohn-m7k]

Commenting on using tivimate with the onn 4k pro streaming box. Would you happen to know the path for recording to usb thumbdrive?

[@Steve0885]

This is probably the best streaming box I've used to date I've had Nvidia shield pro Google Chromecast and Firestick. My downstream numbers are very fast on this box about twice as much as the Google Chromecast

[@azizfilho]

What about the unity heating?

[@l31007]

Is there a way to mount it to the back of the TV or the wall?

[@CBPunisher1900]

velcro dude

[@l31007]

@CBPunisher1900 Not too heavy? Haven't bought it yet.

[@NOFILTER-5354]

Can you plug a usb flash drive straight into your box to view it or do you need the cable for it to show you whats on your usb drive?

[@kennyf.435]

Hi Lon. I have some external hard drives formatted for FAT32. Would they be recognized by this new ONN Box. Thank you.

[@RKingis]

I'd be surprised if they didn't!

[@markyoungsmagic]

Any way to add internal storage (Flash Drive) and still have ports for a keyboard and game controller? Tried and the USB hub makes in extra internal formatted storage unavailable. Thanks for any tips you can provide.

[@RKingis]

OTG Hub

[@Svn-rr2mu]

Thanks Lon! Very good information!

[@HybridShad0w]

Do you have a 2.5 gigabit usb adapter to test to see if ti works well with it?

[@mike91097]

Well I don't know how you were able for the external hard drive to work but I was able to get the mi box s 2nd gen to work

[@thariddler8967]

can you plug a usb flash directly into the box because everyime i do it says its ethier not connected or its ejected how can i fix it?

[@SteveMartinUSA]

My 256 thumb drive and 512GB thumb drives both work, but not my 2TB and up.

[@JoeCool102986]

I have the original model for $20 and with the projectivy launcher it’s a game changer. I’m curious to know if you changed the launcher on this, would it negate its Google home speaker functionality.

[@benjaminsanchez9510]

I started using an app called moonlight, similar to steam link. Do you believe the 4k onn pro is enough? Or should I go with the Google streamer. Moonlight doesn't work on my Roku tv.

[@LonSeidman]

The Onn Pro should be fine for that.

[@westonscampbell]

I'm curious about retro gaming, how far it can go with good performance. Like Nintendo 64 full speed via standalone emulator or RetroArch.

[@jamescaso7505]

The onn pro4k box is awesome, works smoothly, 4k picture, hey Google to ask it any ? Like the echo dot . It's a better built of a box .fully sideloaded with so much ,I like it is it worth 50. It's questionable ,but I just think it works great.

[@mrtrevormjohnson]

Thanks for the follow-up

[@l0zerth]

I was hoping you'd test a DAC. I'm assuming I'm the developer options, you check the default USB behavior?

[@LonSeidman]

Yes - although see a comment in here from another viewer who did get a few Dacs to work

[@jamescaso7505]

Is there a cable to hook multiple streaming boxes together to sideload more boxes at once no one has a answer theres got to be a cable cause i know nobodys sideloading 1 box at a time .

[@WalkerHall-gk8rx]

Uh, James, believe it or not, most of us out here only use one streaming box at a time, and would never think of sideloading more than one box. What are you talking about? Are you trying to buy tons of these and mod them and resell them?

[@RKingis]

Nope, nothing sketchy..........

[@joshmcgootermier2301]

Really want to find spme decent usb type dacs that dont break the bank. Thanks for this.

[@Nigel-Mac]

I'd love a video on your "box of stuff" I'm sure you've got some cool and random stuff!!!

[@LonSeidman]

It’s actually the entire basement at this point :)

[@grtitann7425]

How about streaming Steam games from a local PC? Can you please test Steam link app, built in Ethernet, USB Ethernet and wifi? Also, if possible, using moonlight and sunshine?

[@Kall_Mii_Kemo]

Hey Lon, do you still have the puck (Asus Nexus player)? I'd love to see how it competes with today's TV box's

[@LonSeidman]

I think I have it around here somewhere

[@AB-wl5ny]

​@@LonSeidmanhi, can a fire tv cube 3rd gen write to an ntfs usb drive? I know it reads ntfs formated drives but i read somewhere it can't write to them and i was wondering if you could confirm it. Also, can this box also write the exfat drives?

[@saysbadman]

Great work, as usual!

[@CrimsonTideGuy]

how about an alternate UI launcher? I want an ad-free device

[@bigkahuna2084]

Yes, other content providers have shown other launchers can be set-up and used (Wolf launcher, Projectivy launcher, etc). Additionally, apps like 'Button Mapper' or 'Button Remapper' can be used to remap virtually any button (but particularly the four advertising shortcut 'app buttons' at the bottom of the remote (which Amazon blocked on their FireOS devices).

[@mwewan5560]

Thanks Lon! Great video. Do you happen to know if Tailscale will work with this? Trying to maybe get this as a Plex box that I can take with me on vacations and such :)

[@LonSeidman]

It should be compatible but it looks like Tailscale is in the process of updating their app and right now it's not installable on any Google TV. It should be there soon though. The extra ram will certainly help. Apple TV supports it too with the added bonus of having it work as a gateway device to non-scale devices on the network.

[@mwewan5560]

@@LonSeidmanThank you for your help :)!!

[@neta540]

Thank you for the video!

[@joe10117]

what about vpns ??.. surfshark express vpn ip vanish ?...

[@adamodonnell]

I got one yesterday. IPVanish works as well as Proton VPN.

[@slow_Jo]

you went from Xfinity cable internet to 10gig fiber. bravo, bravo.

[@LonSeidman]

check out the journey! lon.tv/gigpro

[@joanie5812]

Thanks for the update Lon. Going to pass on this device. No reason to upgrade from the previous model right now especially if they can’t standardize on a remote. Why pay the same price for a less useful remote?

[@trevorbartram5473]

Hi Lon, do you test these off brand Andoid boxes for malware? That's important if you're entering usernames & passwords etc. Where is the list of available streaming channels? Is the box software & apps supported by ONN or Google or both? Thanks!

[@eddiee99]

Im thinking about buying it

[@AntonioMadruga-tn7zj]

got the onn 4k pro and tv still freezes up

[@kb-is1jn]

Must be your internet I have 3 and all work great

[@ANTHONYVANPYRE]

@LonSeidman HI LON I APPRECIATE THE VIDEO. . I GOT THIS BYT HAVING AN ISSUE WHERE STUFF GOES OFF SCREEN LIKE DOCTOR WHO. THE DOC IS CUT OFF THE LEFT SIDE. RIGHT SIDE THE PROFILE AND SETTINGS ICONS DONT SHOW BUT I CAN CURSER OVER AND USE THEM. ON THAT MENU I SEE THE WIFI AND BT ICONS BUT NOT THE WORDS. I HAVE TRIED DIFFERENT RESOLUTION AND DID A FACTORY RESET. I HAVE PICS IF THAT HELPS

[@WalkerHall-gk8rx]

I'm pretty sure that's an issue with your tv scaling/formatting settings for that HDMI port, and would have nothing to do with your Onn box.

[@WalkerHall-gk8rx]

Oh but actually, if you have an older tv which requires "overscan" correction, there may be no way to fix it unless the tv includes its own overscan correction. I have seen this with a Mitsubishi DLP TV.

[@dmo848]

My mibox from 2015 finally took a shit so i need something to fill it's shoes. I like this onn device

[@WeAreMovieMakers]

remove the dongle attacked to the ethernet adapter, the more things you have plugged into a single port, the slower it is.

[@RKingis]

What dongle would anyone have in an Ethernet port??????

[@JetScreamer_YT]

I call my box of stuff the radio shack box.

[@LonSeidman]

Facebook’s algorithm put a radio shack nostalgia group in front of me the other day. So sad what we lost.

[@LiveFive-sf4id]

Anyone have an issue with their USB Port not working?

[@bigkahuna2084]

Lon, though this box is claimed to be 'fully-certified' to work with all the major apps, I have read that it is NOT certified to work with the main BRITISH streaming apps (like 'BBC iPlayer,' 'All 4,' 'iTVX' and possibly others), though it might work on 'Channel 5' and 'Gold.' Even though the ONN boxes are not sold in the UK or Canada, there has been strong interest there and some are paying premium prices to purchase from eBay or other sources. Not only would they be shocked to discover these boxes couldn't access those popular UK apps, but British ex-pats and American Anglophiles would likely feel ripped-off (as FireOS devices ARE certified to work with those apps ... or most)! Anyway, none of the KZbin content providers are mentioning this issue. Can you ... 1.) Verify if this is true. 2.) Find out WHY they aren't certified, if they're not? Might they be in the future? 3.) Find out if they will work to access popular Canadian and/or Australian apps? Keep up the great work!

[@LonSeidman]

My guess is if they are not available in the UK market they likely would not want to go through the expense of certification.

[@bigkahuna2084]

@@LonSeidman I suppose. I have no idea what quantities of cash are required for certification. Seems like the demand in both countries would be high (especially with Amazon torquing-off so many customers ... soon to be 'former'). But, I certainly don't know the financials. I DO think that those Brits, Canadians (and possibly Australians) deserve to know the boxes specific limitations before spending their money, though. Thanx for the response. I have been a subscriber of yours for a couple years now.

[@hectormanuel8360]

Test atsc 3 tuner 😅

[@vkristof1]

Yes, that $60 GTMedia USB stick seems like a low cost combo...

[@SherryPeng111]

good point！

[@gaming-zombie1392]

No Cloud Gaming sad about that.....

[@landonkrussell]

You should make a video of you going through your box of stuff. But don't go through it before filming so we get your reaction of "What the heck was this again?" :D

[@supriyasou3722]

I was disappointed a bit with this product and I’ll continue using my fire TV cube 3rd gen but thanks for the video regardless!

[@RKingis]

Why?

[@supriyasou3722]

@@RKingis Because the CPU/GPU is not better than fire cube I already have

[@RKingis]

@@supriyasou3722 Are you doing video games, or just watching stuff?

[@yasmani421]

Such a disappointment to see these boxes with Wifi 6G running at the same speeds of a Wifi 5G connection, even my First stick 4k runs better at Wifi 5G with 430 MB/s

[@johnsun2416]

Walmart is a dead give away, red flag, Walmart known for less inferiors product, el cheapo, should not waste any money on their merchandizes.

[@mkuhlman77]

Plugging an adapter into a non gig port doesn't make that port gig. It only can intake data at the rate the installed plug can handle. The adapter is giving false readings.

[@bigkahuna2084]

He's NOT plugging the adapter hub into the 10/100 Ethernet port ... he's plugging it into the USB-A 3.0 port! The adapter is producing CORRECT readings.

[@ericB3444]

Just get a WAPPLE tv. Smoover.

[@jaggsta]

$20 onn box is better buy at $50 go with name brand roku

[@alliejr]

I bought a $14 ONN streamer in early 2022. It’s already useless junk- so slow to load apps and scroll as to be unusable. You get what you pay for.

[@Kevin-oj2uo]

Roku is trash full of ads I prefer Android.

[@Kevin-oj2uo]

​@@alliejrI been rocking one for the same time and its rock solid.

[@jaggsta]

@@alliejr the $14 ONN Stick only has 1GB RAM the $20 box has 2GB way more usable bought it back in 2021.

[@adamodonnell]

I love my $20 Onn boxes. I'll admit this isn't a big upgrade for the $30 but I bought 2. I like the remote finder and the Ethernet port.

[@bobsimmons1470]

Why do you even need gigabit speed? 95% of owners of this box don't even need that kind of speed.

[@narvaeztiamson918]

Will it support NTFS format?

[@bmike2521]

Can this be hooked up to an HDMI splitter? I tried and my Samsung tv does not recognize the input when it is connected to the splitter

[@LonSeidman]

The splitter will need to support HDCP

[@SteveMartinUSA]

@@LonSeidman Would such a HDCP splitter supply ARC to run on/off my sound bar? Which model?