Look at all of this food, fruit, nuts, veg that our food forest is producing!!

Isn't it incredible that I've been doing this for almost a decade, and I can still find moments where I feel like a kid? Walking around the food forest, finding food growing on my landscaping... why doesn't everyone do this?
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[@JoelKSullivan]

I always love these tours of the property! Also, I wanted to let you know. I've started making my own permaculture videos on KZbin and instagram under the name Earthwise Permaculture. I'd love your input on it if you get a chance to check it out.

[@CanadianPermacultureLegacy]

I'll pin this for exposure!

[@JoelKSullivan]

@@CanadianPermacultureLegacy wow thanks!

[@earthwise101]

​@@JoelKSullivanthis is the channel if anyone is interested

[@donnavorce8856]

I love to wander in my garden and forest and graze. It makes me feel feral, wild, at one with nature, if only for a little while. Still it's an amazing sensation and it happens every day at least once! Cheers

[@nadjafischer5988]

For your peach tree, try horseradish unter the tree at the roots. My grandparents do this for all kind of curl disease (right word?) affected trees - and it works pretty well. :)

[@Ok-vj3dw]

Apparently elderberry thrives on being cut back hard every other season. Edible Acres posted a video about elderberries about a week ago.

[@elleodyn]

yup - my dog does it for us every winter - I've decided to turn his participation "problem" into the solution for pruning the elderberry in his range. 🤣

[@charlesbale8376]

Wonderful garden walk, enjoyed the video.

[@CanadianPermacultureLegacy]

Thanks as always Charles :)

[@daniellapain1576]

I would love to have peach trees and experiment with marionetting and finding ways to block growth in the crutches of the branches with tape.

[@annburge291]

Matt Powers mentions another way of dealing with peach leaf curl. You inoculate the leaves with another fungus that feasts on the leaf curl fungus and then new healthy leaves grow.

[@CalmCowBell]

I never thin out the fruit. The wind and animals do a great job of it.

[@janew5351]

I planted 2 fruit trees this year,. I have 1 established apple. I have added black currant and few seabuckthorn. You are miles ahead of us

[@CanadianPermacultureLegacy]

You are on your way, and that's what's important! The first step is the hardest.

[@MrSjjak1]

They say that if you plant a horseradish underneath a peachtree you dont have that much problem with leafcurl. I havent tried it yet. But it might be worth a try. And horseradish always groes very easy. Easy to multiply with peaces of root.

[@CanadianPermacultureLegacy]

Cool, I will try it out

[@donnavorce8856]

I will try that. Can't hurt in any case. Thanks.

[@11STANE11]

elderberry if it's american variety tends to die off if not heavily cut/pruned

[@WestKelownaForager-sc5wd]

Thank you for continuing your videos :))) Really looking forward to seeing a 2024 video from you this SUMMER showcasing ALL the food production of your food forest! I'm always wanting to share your vids! A shorter vid showing off ALL the food bearing plants in your food forest does makes is eaaaasier to share with people who have not yet taken a keen interest in plants .... 🙏🙌✌🌻

[@CanadianPermacultureLegacy]

Definitely

[@maryyett4637]

Interestingly, my farm ( located in the near north of Ontario, on Manitoulin Island in Lake Huton )is having a HUGE cherry production year this year. Apple production was huge last last year, and as expected, it is much less this year. However, 2 mature apple trees had only an average year last year but are absolutely loaded this year. Nature is so facinating to observe.

[@Crina-LudmilaCristeaAuthor]

Very nice! I can't wait to see how it looks when they are ripe. 🤗💛🤗

[@gangofgreenhorns2672]

So they say that only that one butterfly eats pawpaws, but I have had these huge holes missing from a few of mine, and I caught what it was today. They're leaf cutter bees that are building a nest. They're pretty solitaire so only saw one, but they keep returning to my pawpaw seedlings lol.

[@CanadianPermacultureLegacy]

Interesting! I'll keep my eyes open for them. Last year thankfully we didn't see any evidence of that.

[@LW1Tok]

I can never bring myself to thinning 😂

[@janstoll8881]

I grow all of these fruit as well. I also have fig, heart nut trees, goji berries, Logan berries, boysenberry and blueberries.

[@mikeinportland30]

Amazing your Hascaps are ripe in Ontario while here in the "mild" PNW ours are still green. And even "Frost" peach trees struggle terribly here with peach leaf curl under our constantly wet and cool Springs. I broke down and spray my last Frost peach with copper sulphide as the fruits are worth it.

[@FioBrio]

It's going to be a true forest in a few years

[@moranmike36]

We enjoy your tours, Thank you.

[@Double0pi]

I'm hoping I'll need to thin my fruit in a few years! My trees just look like big sticks right now, lol.

[@Debbie-henri]

Oh, I thought my peach leaf curl was bad this year, but that tree is very badly affected. In fact, I've noticed a serious uptick in plant diseases this year. Something on a few of my new-ish apples, my pear, peach leaf curl on all but 3 of my cherries, a sort of black mould on my plum tree leaves (looks nasty), and something affected the first leaves of my courgettes (they appear to be growing out of it now). I wonder if it's all the extra humidity this year. It's like the tropics here in Scotland.

[@thehillsidegardener3961]

Man, your food forest is so green and lush. I don't envy you your cold winters but it does seem like you have a decent amount of rain (and snow), we've had a few inches TOTAL since last year, it's bad, but I've learned from your channel and others to plant densely and let things grow that want to grow. My garden might be untidy but it's also the greenest around! Just hoping that starts to translate into more abundant harvests as the soil improves. We started with 1.5% organic material, pretty atrocious, the only way is up!

[@CanadianPermacultureLegacy]

100%!

[@growshakephil]

Looks great! Your production on a graph looks like the handle of a hockey stick. I’m on year four of my backyard jungle, so it’ll take a couple more years for mine to get there. I’ll do a tour soon and send you the link

[@littlehomesteadbythebeach]

Beautiful tour again. Thank you!

[@CanadianPermacultureLegacy]

❤️ and thank you as always for supporting the channel ❤️

[@TheKindredMan]

love your content

[@edzakete.3700]

I’ve been lime washing my trees? Think it helps against codlin moth etc and it looks good too! … I do only have 3/4 trees tho.. not quite a forest yet

[@growinginportland]

What an amazing tour. Your food Forrest is blowing up. I just had my first honey berries and my first currents. I planted a has kap but no berries yet. Tons of strawberries. Which reminds me I need to do a tour of my place and post it on my channel as well. Thanks for sharing. All my best.

[@barbarasimoes9463]

Being you said you like unusual fruits, I was wondering if you've ever planted or what you think of medlars, quince, Cornelian cherries, goumi and Che. I live in zone 5 Vermont, and these are thriving here, but I don't remember hearing you talk about them. Mine are too young yet to have produced, but they are doing well. I also planted a hawthorn this past year so it can be used as a heart tonic, but also an incredible wildlife tree.

[@SunshineCountryChickens]

Everything looks amazing great inspiration! I cut my elderberry back before the freeze and keep the canes protected until spring and stick them in the ground they make new bushes effortlessly

[@CanadianPermacultureLegacy]

Indeed! One year I took 20+ cuttings off that plant and propagated them everywhere. Not all took, but roughly 40% are still alive now, 3 years later. I'm definitely going to do that more next year, because many people are saying that they will die if yoy don't aggressively prune them.

[@charronfamilyconnect]

You must be in the Niagara region to grow such a great variety

[@CanadianPermacultureLegacy]

We are 2 zones colder than Niagara up where we are.

[@preceptuponprecept]

How much land do you think your food forest takes up? 1/2 an acre?

[@CanadianPermacultureLegacy]

About 1.5 acres if you add up all the sections

[@kyvndvntr]

how did you hand pollinate your paw paws?

[@CanadianPermacultureLegacy]

Just stick a paint brush inside one flower then inside another then another, etc.

[@kerryl4031]

I was hoping our honey berries would perform (I bought 2 bushes after watching your channel) but the weather last year, and up until recently, was rubbish and I thought only one survived. But a nice surprise the other day when I found a strong little branch from the "dead" one so I'm hopeful for next year. The other seems to be stronger. My comfrey has all but gone, just one plant left. The pheasants and the march of the slugs for the second year have taken their toll. I'll have to take root cuttings! Further down the road, wild comfrey looks gorgeous! Pfffft!!!!! Your food forest is super!

[@CanadianPermacultureLegacy]

If you are just starting, the first few years can look like that, especially if the soil needs time to transition and grow, such as if it was previously lawn, or depleted farmland. Don't despair, each year that you focus on covering soil, dropping organic material down, no till, the soil builds and converts to later stage succession soil, and then plants start to take off in years 4, 5, 6+.

[@kerryl4031]

Thank you for your encouragement. Even the ducks got picky about what slugs they ate! The slugs devoured the leaves on 2 new plum trees - left a damson! I'm looking at Chinese date plants - found a source in the UK. Mostly my veg is conventional plot (greenhouse and now polytunnel) so transitioning lots into a sort of permaculture system. It was your channel that inspired me to take the plunge last year!

[@DazzleCamo]

I'm having some similar trouble getting going. Besides the nutritional issue Keith cites, which is headed the right direction at least, in Indiana, the wind exposure is really tough on younger plants and they don't have a lot grown up to shield them yet. I assume it will get easier as stuff starts to fill in to balance the ecosystem and nurse newer members... Just keep planting like crazy

[@jlazelle1]

It's been a weird season in western Oregon too. My Nanaimo peach gets leaf curl real bad but is loaded with fruit. My Charlotte (bred in Oregon) has virtually no curl but like 4 fruits. Go figure. Still waiting to summer prune another week as we're forecast to get an inch of rain next Sunday!

[@juliehorney995]

Is there a dwarf peach you could recommend that might work in NE IN? Zone 6a.

[@jlazelle1]

@@juliehorney995 No. I'm just guessing myself.

[@mikeinportland30]

Here in Portland I have resorted to spraying my one last peach tree with copper sulphide ("Frost"). I don't like to spray anything but no matter how much I culled peach curled leaves, the trees eventually died due to the curl (and energy expended to make new leaves so much) that our cool wet Springs enable so well!

[@melanieroscoe5720]

Your forest looks amazing!! Always love the tour videos. The peach leaf curl info was especially helpful; one of my brand new trees (planted a year ago) is a nectarine and it was hit heavily! I thought maybe i was seeing damage from that frost we had a few weeks ago but it’s now very clearly leaf curl. Good to know I should take the leaves off!

[@CanadianPermacultureLegacy]

Actually, from what I've been reading, not even that will help, because by the time your leaves are impacted, it's already in the bark, and will overwinter.

[@melanieroscoe5720]

@@CanadianPermacultureLegacy ugh that’s disheartening! This is a brand new tree, I’d hate to have to pull it after only a year.

[@comitatocentrale2022]

Regarding peach leaf curl trees grown from seed are usually more resistant to it. Btw I seem to have had exactly the same spring as yours, with a warm March awakening followed by a cold April which had a week with near 0 C temperatures. And the results are the same with peaches with lots of leaf curl, very few sweet cherries fruits while good amounts of sour cherries

[@CanadianPermacultureLegacy]

very interested indeed

[@julie-annepineau4022]

Love seeing how lush and full the food forest is looking. Kinda looks like it might be getting difficult to get to some of the food at this point because of the density? I am starting my 3rd year getting my land established and should get a few peaches, and apples this year. It will be my first year getting haskap too I think. I have some wild apple, blueberry and service berry to harvest too.

[@CanadianPermacultureLegacy]

It can be, and I knew full well this day was coming. I'm now in the stage where management and thinning and removal of some plants for access will be needed.

[@mep.stance1210]

Unusually many mosquitoes has a lot to do with the warmer than average spring and climate change. Warmer temperatures increases likelihood of more them hatching simultaneously instead of gradual hatching along the season. We have the same here in northern Europe with people complaining about it. I wish I had a running water feature like that to help with the pressure. Better plant more aromatics which eases it also.

[@MalinaImport]

Yes! The mosquitoes here in western Russia are WILD this year. Never in my 30+ years seen anything like it. Trying to have fun while planting out seedlings in the evening is getting kinda hard when you're being devoured by a swarm of bloodsuckers.

[@SirTerrible]

I love your “if it doesn’t do well, it just doesn’t do well and I replace it with something else” mentality. I feel like people are so in the mind-set that if something they planted dies, it’s somehow a failing on their part. But nature is BUILT on failure and its ability to thrive DESPITE that failure that makes natural systems so sustainable and resilient. The best we can do is gently nudge those robust systems into the direction that we can make greater use of, and not be too upset when things don’t go exactly as planned 😅

[@CanadianPermacultureLegacy]

100%. It's really important that we listen to the feedback that nature gives us. For now, I'll deal with peach leaf curl, but not do anything to stop it. I've read that once it shows up in the leaves, it's already settled into the bark as well, and that's where it overwinters, so spraying your tree won't help 100%, you'll get it again and again anyways. So, I figured that I'll enjoy the peaches while I get them, and if the trees struggle and die, then I'll down from 15 peach trees to only 2-3 and just plant things that thrive here. But a fresh peach is just so priceless, that I'll probably always try to keep a few going, even if it means I replant them more often, and keep a cycle of a few of them in production. But I'm not going to baby them.

[@earthwise101]

Why does a peach tree put out more fruit then it can handle? Is it a case of selective breeding?

[@joeblow812]

Pawpawpalooza! ❤

[@elleodyn]

That Pawpaw is incredible!!! Ours are about 1-3 feet tall... :) How old are those pawpaw trees?

[@CanadianPermacultureLegacy]

I think about 7 years now

[@blickch]

That is crazy that your haskaps are in so early. What varietal are they? I have six different varieties and the earliest are just starting to show colour.

[@MalinaImport]

I believe he mentioned in another video that it's Boreal, or something along the lines.

[@CanadianPermacultureLegacy]

They are all the "cold" line. Beauty, beast, boreal, tundra, etc. Many varieties.

[@johannordstrom5027]

Thanks for a great video. What variety of pawpaw och persimmons do you grow and what do you recommend for even a zon colder than yours. Anything else you can do to make them survive, local climate tricks etc

[@CanadianPermacultureLegacy]

Both paw paw and persimmon, I feel like I'm on the very edge of zone where they can grow. Green Barn nursery claims to have some super cold hardy persimmons and paw paws that you could try. They are apparently their own seedling varieties, so unnamed. However they are crazy expensive, and I have my skepticism.

[@CanadianPermacultureLegacy]

Both paw paw and persimmon, I feel like I'm on the very edge of zone where they can grow. Green Barn nursery claims to have some super cold hardy persimmons and paw paws that you could try. They are apparently their own seedling varieties, so unnamed. However they are crazy expensive, and I have my skepticism.

[@DazzleCamo]

Gonna need to know about making that kombucha!

[@GerryMantha]

Is that a Gen 1 Starlink dishy near the end of the video?

[@CanadianPermacultureLegacy]

It is

[@Kay-xi9kv]

How old are sea buckthorn plants?

[@CanadianPermacultureLegacy]

3 years

[@hollywood5274]

I like to know your general location . I'm in Zone 4 Ontario and would love to grow paw paws and persimmons!

[@MalinaImport]

I'm in 4b and trying pawpaws this year first time. Have heard from others of success overwintering them. Just make sure to mulch heavy before winter.

[@Jacob-fe2sw]

I'm in 4b Ontario near Mattawa. I planted pawpaw and persimmons this year. I'll have to see how this winter goes

[@CanadianPermacultureLegacy]

Between Toronto and Ottawa somewhere, that's about as precise as I like to get. Someone threatened to set fire to my food forest after I posted some videos on climate change, so I like to try to keep my exact location somewhat secret.

[@mikeinportland30]

@@CanadianPermacultureLegacy ....and guessing the type of person who would lower themselves so low are also the same quick to call out others as "snowflakes". One wonders why they would be watching your channel in the first place. Humans.🤷‍♂️. BTW I thought your video/s on climate change were excellent!

[@hollywood5274]

@@CanadianPermacultureLegacy Sorry to hear that! Some people are insane, which makes it terrible for the rest of us. Thank you for your reply. Will a paw paw grow in zone 4?

[@smueller12244]

What type of peach had the curl? I had some really bad issues with a magnolia of my wife's this year...pruned the shit out of it mid spring and all the new growth was healthy. It's going to be tough to wait 7-8 years for paw paws haha but I'm ready for it. I've also ate serviceberry and haskap/honeyberries this year so far. Waiting on chicago hardy figs soon and strawberries

[@CanadianPermacultureLegacy]

Veteran, contender, flamin fury and Reliance are all covered in leaf curl. Frost seems to be quite resistant.

[@annburge291]

Check out Korean natural farming with Chris Trump, If you change the microbiome on the leaf surface, another fungus will consume the leaf curl fungus and the tree can grow healthy leaves. Even the simple LAB solution that one makes from fermented rice water and milk then diluted a tsp to a litre of water and sprayed on the leaves can make a difference... Korean Natural farming solutions have a few solutions that can help.

[@katiepuckett573]

I have two Paw Paw trees that aree on their second year in the ground. When did yours start flowering?

[@CanadianPermacultureLegacy]

Usually flowering by uear 4 or 5 fruit by year 7-10.

[@SgtScourge]

Does comfrey make you itchy? I get spotted and itchy all over my forearms when I chop and drop

[@CanadianPermacultureLegacy]

No, but I've heard other people say that it does for them.

[@katiepuckett573]

Which variety of Peach trees are doing well for you (like the one at 12:02)? My Frost peach was hit hard by leaf curl and Im looking for a better varieties. My Kriebach nectarine did much better this year. I am on Vashon Island WA just South of you.

[@CanadianPermacultureLegacy]

Reliance are my favorite because they are so tasty and grow well, despite leaf curl. Frost seem to do the best with leaf curl.

[@joannatkaczuk]

I’m based in Poland zone 5, my favourite is peach Reliance, but from all of the kind Nectarine Harko has the most sweet and delicious fruit.

[@osmia]

What is the natural pollinator of the pawpaw tree?

[@TroyEagan]

I think it's flies

[@osmia]

Thanks. I googled it after watching and found that it's flies and beetles for the natural pollinators

[@CanadianPermacultureLegacy]

Beetles and flies. Paw paws pre-date bees.

[@Kay-xi9kv]

I have two Josta berries I thought were dead, and then they started sending out leaves very late. Strange

[@JessicaJLandi]

Three year old peach tree and 4 year old raspberries...neither have produced any fruit yet. I'm wondering if we have some round-up poisoning in the soil from years ago.

[@CanadianPermacultureLegacy]

The peach tree certainly isn't abnormal, but the raspberries not producing fruit is. They can produce in their first year.

[@paulmvn5431]

I planted a peach tree from Raintree last spring. It has a few peaches on it this year. I also planted some raspberries a month ago. The cane I put in the ground had some shoots with flowers grow out of it already. There definitely is something wrong with yours.

[@Cristofre]

I lost a paw paw and a fig to Japanese ambrosia beetles last year, maybe that is what happened to the elderberry? They are a stem borer, and the leaves start falling off.

[@CanadianPermacultureLegacy]

Could be. They are everywhere here too.

[@livefreefarmstead]

is there a difference chopping my comfrey or just doing what you did and bending them over?

[@annburge291]

With comfry not really, but with crimping grass it's a definite yes because grass dries out very quickly and releases volatile compounds to the air rather than to the soil. Wind can remove dried matter from where you want it (a definite problem in my area) Crimping gives time for bugs and microbes to consume the plant with a longer time covering the soil and giving the neighbouring plants more light access.

[@kriswickens8157]

SO MUCH FRUIT…

[@CalmCowBell]

Your place is beautiful. I used to eat from my food forest, but all the oxalates, tannins, and other anti-nutrients in plants destroyed my health. Now I am a carnivore eating only meat, eggs and dairy. My health is now better than any time in my life - amazing at age 65

[@CanadianPermacultureLegacy]

use Plants for a Future website to help identify plants high in tannins and oxalates, and avoid those. That sounds more like a plant selection issue than a dietary one.