Looking for One GOOD Reason!! Call Forrest Valkai & John Gleason | Sunday Show AFTER DARK 12.15.24

  Рет қаралды 24,870

The Line

The Line

Күн бұрын

Пікірлер: 505
@FaiaHalo
@FaiaHalo Күн бұрын
Great host duo, I loved it!! I wish everyone a beautiful new week
@darrenleelayton6052
@darrenleelayton6052 Күн бұрын
Thank you Faia! I'm also a bit in love with Forrest. ❤
@purplepanda1287
@purplepanda1287 Күн бұрын
It's the timestamp person! Great to see you still going at it, love seeing your comment every week :3
@AlexMorales-qi1yo
@AlexMorales-qi1yo Күн бұрын
seeing your comment do you think christianophobia is a thing?
@inaneglory7431
@inaneglory7431 Күн бұрын
Thanks, Faia!
@nickydaviesnsdpharms3084
@nickydaviesnsdpharms3084 Күн бұрын
This is the most helpful call listing on any channel in my opinion. Nice one! We all appreciate it. 👍
@shannington23
@shannington23 15 сағат бұрын
"...because what you're feeling right now IS the thing that I am fighting against. That fear you're feeling right now, you know the answer, David...You know it's evil...but what you mean is you can't fuckin' say it because you're scared of the implication of it...Even if that monster is real, you don't owe it your allegiance and its sins far outweigh yours. And it has no fucking right to judge you or take away your humanity. You, David, are a better person than this God." BOOM. Forrest, you have a way with words. You come from a place of positivity and have facts to back you up. Hands down, the best person on this channel.
@TreeHairedGingerAle
@TreeHairedGingerAle Күн бұрын
I can absolutely understand Maureen. My father was an atheist, and an absolute monster. My mother was christian, and pretty much the only source of joy in the house. When I finally lost my faith, I cried for weeks... I know now, that part of the reason why I cried that much, was because I thought that I _wasn't allowed to do good things anymore._ That it would be impossible to be a good person, without god. That it would be impossible to find joy. Now I understand that my ability to be a good person is actually easier: because my morality is now based on well-being, consent, and respecting the autonomy of others; rather than arbitrary rules backed only by 'might makes right' arguments. I don't have to be like my dad, just because I'm an atheist. At all. In fact, I have been able to become even _more_ myself, and find even more joy, without the anxiousness that is natural when you think that a vengeful ghost is watching you every second of the day. 😅
@freakishuproar1168
@freakishuproar1168 19 сағат бұрын
Thanks for sharing your story OP, as harrowing as it was. Had a happier ending from the sounds of things :D Stay safe and sane!
@TreeHairedGingerAle
@TreeHairedGingerAle 18 сағат бұрын
@freakishuproar1168 Ha! Hey, uh thanks. But, no. 😅 No happy ending for me, technically. It's a. Whatchacallit? A 'pyrrhic victory', I think? See, the problem is, _I didn't wake up from my faith fast enough._ 😕 I spent my whole childhood under one abuser, then made decisions based on christianity in adulthood; and wound up stuck under the thumbs of _OTHER_ abusers by marrying in: the whole time thinking that 'god was guiding me'. Between abuse and deprivation and lack of proper development and sabotage, my life has been utterly **cratered.** I don't see much in the future for myself.... especially after the recent turns the world has taken, I'd consider it shortened... 🤷🏾‍♀️ But at least I can face the probable end of all this with some truth. I can face it as my full self. And I can make sure that, whatever I do, I'm standing on the correct side of history when it's done.... I couldn't say much of that before, back when I was blinded by dogma and tied up in knots and confusion.... So, I'll take it.
@TreeHairedGingerAle
@TreeHairedGingerAle 18 сағат бұрын
@freakishuproar1168 Hey, uh thanks. But, no. 😅 No happy ending for me, technically. It's a. Whatchacallit? A 'pyrrhic victory', I think? See, the problem is, _I didn't wake up from my faith fast enough._ 😕 I spent my whole childhood under one a8user, then made decisions based on christianity in adulthood; and wound up stuck under the thumbs of _OTHER_ a8users by marrying in: the whole time thinking that 'god was guiding me'. Between a8use and deprivation and lack of proper development and sabotage, my life has been utterly **cratered.** I don't see much in the future for myself.... especially after the recent turns the world has taken, I'd consider it shortened... 🤷🏾‍♀️ But at least I can face the probable end of all this with some truth. I can face it as my full self. And I can make sure that, whatever I do, I'm standing on the correct side of history when it's done.... I couldn't say much of that before, back when I was blinded by dogma and tied up in knots and confusion.... So, I'll take it.
@williamgraff7593
@williamgraff7593 11 сағат бұрын
It's never easy to escape the prisons that our parents construct around us. Congratulations on finding a way out.
@boringth
@boringth 12 сағат бұрын
My gods, Forrest, that was some amazing work with David (CA). I want to share it with my Christian family, but I don’t know if I want to shake them THAT hard.
@blakewalker84120
@blakewalker84120 14 сағат бұрын
Mark's defense of "Oh, I didn't expect you guys would notice how bad my argument was" is, well, I'll be nice and say it's idiotic. Yeah, that's nicer than what I had in mind.
@gerrye114
@gerrye114 12 сағат бұрын
Listening to how Forrest talked to David reminded me of the lye scene in Fight Club. David's mind kept trying to go to the thought stoppers, but Forrest kept bringing him back to focus on the lye. I hope that David keeps looking at that scar. I hope that David talks to others and sees how many of us have that scar.
@emhoj97
@emhoj97 Күн бұрын
I really like Maureen. She is very thoughtful and sounds so kind. Maureen seems like she would give the warmest hugs and have the best candy in her home ❤
@williamgraff7593
@williamgraff7593 11 сағат бұрын
Yes! What a lovely person!
@AndreJNick1
@AndreJNick1 19 сағат бұрын
3:34:24 i am a veteran who is bi and my partner is an immigrant. I gladly cut ties with anyone who voted for Trump which included most of my family
@hamhockjenkins
@hamhockjenkins 8 сағат бұрын
🫡
@bootskanchelsis3337
@bootskanchelsis3337 2 сағат бұрын
I did the same thing ....back during the Bush administration
@eme1972
@eme1972 Сағат бұрын
I live in a state where Trump could never win, not even close. I still voted, for Harris, for people like you, to show that we support you.
@shodan6401
@shodan6401 23 сағат бұрын
"Nuh-uh" -- Killer argument.
@Deathvalley1980
@Deathvalley1980 15 сағат бұрын
XD
@hailsagan8886
@hailsagan8886 Күн бұрын
Ban all callers w voice modulators
@Leith_Crowther
@Leith_Crowther 22 сағат бұрын
There could be good reasons for voice changers. What they should do instead is ask, “Why are you using a voice changer?” and ban them unless the answer is something like, “I live in an authoritarian theocracy which may punish me for calling this show.”
@sohu86x
@sohu86x 19 сағат бұрын
@@Leith_Crowther If they were banned, it must be for a good reason. Or should we let all murderers and rapists out of prison because putting them in prison is what an authoritarian theocracy would do?
@nthnglsn
@nthnglsn 4 сағат бұрын
At least when it's a suspected repeat troll using a voice changer. When Arden mentioned it I was surprised they kept him on
@mactallica9293
@mactallica9293 18 сағат бұрын
Xeno must be so angry that forrest does not remember him. Dude asked 4 different times about it
@shanewilson7994
@shanewilson7994 12 сағат бұрын
Crypto bro is really trying to be relevant after losing everything in NFTs.
@tylerdurden783
@tylerdurden783 Күн бұрын
2:41:36 Forrest was on 🔥🔥 here! Literal chills from this impassioned speech! Total mic drop badassery 🎤
@ScottJohnson-z5s
@ScottJohnson-z5s 15 сағат бұрын
@@tylerdurden783 Watching him deal with callers with more intelligence makes me think that he would be a good special education teacher.
@Dadas0560
@Dadas0560 21 сағат бұрын
They always say: "God works in mysterious ways..." And then they say that they know what God wants... I ask: "How do you know what God wants if you don't know how God works?" And: "How do you know that God actually wants you to do what you are doing?"
@wadeinn463
@wadeinn463 Күн бұрын
When i woke up i was just pissed that i was lied to for 18 yrs.
@tammyburton8289
@tammyburton8289 Күн бұрын
Another thought provoking show thanks to hosts and chat 🎉
@boblangford5514
@boblangford5514 Күн бұрын
Shana: “I wasn’t raised in Christianity. I came to it on my own.” (2 minutes later) Shana: “I believe in Christianity because of my ancestors. It’s my heritage.” What a blatant liar! You can’t even satirize this stuff anymore! 😂
@violetsonja5938
@violetsonja5938 8 сағат бұрын
Exactly! It doesn't ever follow. Also, why does Shana disregard her many more ancestors that existed before Christianity if ancestors matter so much?
@valeriewilliams9562
@valeriewilliams9562 8 сағат бұрын
Troll caller using a voice changer
@PK_1024
@PK_1024 Күн бұрын
Xeno. If you believe in God because we can't know anything for sure, then you should believe in unicorn also due to the same reason. Otherwise you're just special pleading God without any good reason.
@joemiller7082
@joemiller7082 Күн бұрын
And literally anything I could think up, after I throw it out as an option.
@PK_1024
@PK_1024 Күн бұрын
@joemiller7082 exactly
@marcosolo6491
@marcosolo6491 Күн бұрын
Xeno thinks having "discovered" the most banal deepity ever gives him free reign to believe his favorite BS.
@2tFrut
@2tFrut Күн бұрын
he does not care for reason only for excuses, and of course he wont apply that excuse on the things he does not believe, why would he ?
@ARoll925
@ARoll925 23 сағат бұрын
Xeno actually admitted in previous calls that he got to this while "hitting the bowl on the toilet" so no wonder his argument is such asinine BS, bong hit theology is garbage
@Murkoph
@Murkoph Күн бұрын
I frigging love Maureen. Good luck with stuff, Maureen!
@jjbecker2
@jjbecker2 Күн бұрын
“Conservative “ is a misnomer, we have progressive and regressive
@ScottJohnson-z5s
@ScottJohnson-z5s Күн бұрын
Regarding Mark the troll: I thought voice changing software was more convincing these days, especially with A.I. powered engines. A voice changer is a huge troll red flag. They shouldn't have given him that much time.
@Pmrace1960
@Pmrace1960 Күн бұрын
was easy to see he was a troll.......wasnt a good one...i spotted him in the first sentence
@MH-lz3gp
@MH-lz3gp 23 сағат бұрын
wonder if he knows Mark and Shana
@mactallica9293
@mactallica9293 17 сағат бұрын
He was definitely David as well
@ScottJohnson-z5s
@ScottJohnson-z5s 15 сағат бұрын
@@mactallica9293 Yep. When I wrote the comment I hadn't gotten that far. The hosts should have dumped him too. Forrest's weakness is not being able to cut and run quickly on obvious trolls.
@mactallica9293
@mactallica9293 15 сағат бұрын
@@ScottJohnson-z5s Definitely agree there. Make the counter point, win the argument and move on from the guy. Very obvious the person wasn't giving answers or even trying
@apedley
@apedley Күн бұрын
"Shana" is using a voice changer
@Mmmmilo
@Mmmmilo 4 сағат бұрын
I think it’s Jackie.
@EehAmanda
@EehAmanda 8 сағат бұрын
Spotlight is a fucking AMAZING movie. Everyone should see it. EVERYONE!
@oliverthompson9922
@oliverthompson9922 19 сағат бұрын
Xeno, we don't have to grapple with hard solipsism, It is a useless, unfalsifiable proposition that we don't have to think about for one minute. We just have to accept the reality that we have no choice but to live within.
@etaylor8028
@etaylor8028 15 сағат бұрын
I mean, you don’t have to do anything at the end of the day, but if you’re going to have a conversation about God and religion in general that touches all the bases then yes it’s going to contain a heavy dose of philosophy. I think what the caller was trying to get at, was if you remove all the things you cannot prove with 100% certainty, then that leads to some ultimate truth that leads to God. But I don’t wanna put words in his mouth.
@oliverthompson9922
@oliverthompson9922 15 сағат бұрын
@etaylor8028 and there is no need to talk about hard solipsism, let alone grapple with it. It adds nothing to any conversation.
@oliverthompson9922
@oliverthompson9922 15 сағат бұрын
@@etaylor8028 which is a ridiculous argument.
@ScottJohnson-z5s
@ScottJohnson-z5s 15 сағат бұрын
@@etaylor8028 BS
@ARoll925
@ARoll925 6 сағат бұрын
@@etaylor8028 yeah, it's an asinine thing to say
@hansverhaegen8406
@hansverhaegen8406 Күн бұрын
Forrest casually explaining why there are no more vampires anymore.
@wyldink1
@wyldink1 Күн бұрын
Xeno has been pwned on his garbage many times in the past. He hasn't learned, and it is now evident he cannot learn.
@valeriewilliams9562
@valeriewilliams9562 7 сағат бұрын
I don’t know why I don’t find this condescending… but it delights me when John laughs at a caller. It’s often completely appropriate. Get better, GE!
@YoutuberGrudge
@YoutuberGrudge Күн бұрын
The rant from 49:39-51:37 Is why I love Forrest. That uh, 'study' David was talking about are articles on christian websites about christian couples staying together if they pray together. 1/1500 get divorced who pray together. Basically it's just if you go to bed together or have some time together before work engaging in things that make you feel fulfilled, you're more likely to stay together. Nothing really scientific about it, that's just kind of obvious. Bonding moments make your relationship stronger. That's it.
@carpevinum8645
@carpevinum8645 Күн бұрын
And people who pray daily are more likely apart of religious communities, in which divorce can be a lot more taboo and have a lot more consequences in terms of social ostracisation, support, etc. Religious focused therapy will often focus on upholding the religious ideals over safety and well being.
@loki2240
@loki2240 Күн бұрын
​@@carpevinum8645- And the wife is typically told to endure to preserve the marriage in Christian counseling.
@jacketrussell
@jacketrussell 16 сағат бұрын
David - both my wife and I are life long atheists, never prayed in our lives, been married 45 years and lived together for 3 years before that. Seen lots of religious folk get divorced over the years. How do you explain that?
@nickfrigillana2645
@nickfrigillana2645 18 сағат бұрын
I'm pretty sure at least 2 of these "different" callers were the same person based on their way of responding to questions with one-word answers that don't actually answer the question
@ScottJohnson-z5s
@ScottJohnson-z5s 15 сағат бұрын
And had a voice changer. In the case of "Mark" and "David" he didn't even bother to use a different voice.
@gerrye114
@gerrye114 Күн бұрын
Xeno thinks there is a god because we can't know anything 100%. Assuming that's because a god controls reality, why not also believe in fairies, wizards or witches?
@joemiller7082
@joemiller7082 Күн бұрын
And literally everything anyone could think up and say.
@Jeremo-FD
@Jeremo-FD Күн бұрын
Mark was such a low effort troll. It's kinda disappointing they gave him a whole half hour of attention.
@ScottJohnson-z5s
@ScottJohnson-z5s Күн бұрын
His voice changer was obvious
@benevolentworldexploder5395
@benevolentworldexploder5395 Күн бұрын
He's a repeat caller. Always sounds this boring. My only guess is that he's chasing dopamine and is trying to intentionally make theists look bad.
@paul.c.gregory
@paul.c.gregory Күн бұрын
So obviously an atheist troll, calling in to,try to make theists look foolish.
@marcosolo6491
@marcosolo6491 Күн бұрын
Yeah, it's pathetic when the hosts are unable to pull the plug on obvious trolls being obvious trolls, even when it's painfully obviously obvious and even when their producer tells them that it's a troll. Did I mention that the obvious troll was obvious?
@symbiotesam3562
@symbiotesam3562 Күн бұрын
Forest has a tendency to indulge these trolls way longer then he should.
@blackhelm5773
@blackhelm5773 Күн бұрын
Tldr for anyone not wanting to listen to Xenos stupidity. "Hard solipsism, therefore god."
@RichWoods23
@RichWoods23 Күн бұрын
Or "We can't know anything, therefore I know something".
@Imperial-Socialist
@Imperial-Socialist Күн бұрын
I tried to be a solipsist but couldn't prove that I exist
@troybutler5627
@troybutler5627 12 сағат бұрын
We literally ARE brains in vats. It's just that the vat has a body connected to it.
@blackhelm5773
@blackhelm5773 11 сағат бұрын
@@troybutler5627 I take offense to that. My body is a meat suit not a vat thank you very much. Flesh bag would also be acceptable.
@BrokeTheSeal
@BrokeTheSeal Күн бұрын
Mark had to be a troll and also Xeno is an absolute tool. Forrest handled him so well.
@joemiller7082
@joemiller7082 Күн бұрын
He’s totally useless.
@csjrogerson2377
@csjrogerson2377 Күн бұрын
Nah, Mark just had the IQ of a dead gecko.
@Pmrace1960
@Pmrace1960 Күн бұрын
mark was 100% a troll...you could hear giggling..
@ARoll925
@ARoll925 23 сағат бұрын
Xeno is painful to listen to, he called a bunch a few years ago, and accused Matt of narcissism, when in fact if you listen to him he himself is clearly a narcissist and that is just projection
@hamhockjenkins
@hamhockjenkins 8 сағат бұрын
They should stop taking Xeno’s calls all together. A waste of everything.
@charliecarrot
@charliecarrot 10 сағат бұрын
2:01:54 Forrest's discussion with David (CA) was beautiful and one of the all-time highlights of calls on this channel. Absolutely love it, keep it up. And wish you the best, David
@jonny46ba
@jonny46ba 19 сағат бұрын
Love John and Forrest together..Some rollercoaster this episode was.. great chat with the caller at the beginning, some real warmth from the hosts. ..then the Catholic who got a rant from Forrest, and John made some awesome points.. they both made me laugh out loud loads of times.. but my fave line was from Forrest... "I'm a Biologist.. I want to know what farts are made of..not what they smell like" Put it on a T-Shirt Forrest and I'll buy it
@howlando6989
@howlando6989 Күн бұрын
If you've ever played rogue or nethack, dipping water in holy water makes all the regular water holy water for sure
@benevolentworldexploder5395
@benevolentworldexploder5395 Күн бұрын
If you watched The Lost Boys, then you know that you can shoot holy water from squirt guns to explode vampires. (I'm not very deep in the show. No idea what caused you to comment, but you made me laugh and I had to think of other media stuff involving holy water.)
@benevolentworldexploder5395
@benevolentworldexploder5395 Күн бұрын
Got to the relevant bit. Very concerned Forrest and I both thought about vampires. Forrest only got away with this insane rant about holy water because Jimmy wasn't there to put him back in his place. 😂 Also busting into Dracula.... I guess Forrest is a heebie-jeebies-phile.
@Vondoodle
@Vondoodle Күн бұрын
In Constantine the movie - they dump a cross in a tank of water - so just dump a cross in the sea - job done
@Sejl
@Sejl Күн бұрын
Ice-nine 😂
@VanHalenIsolated
@VanHalenIsolated 20 сағат бұрын
I know that the Line can’t control who calls in, but this was a perfect episode, all Christian theist callers, and great hosts; and good amount of time in total.
@ScottJohnson-z5s
@ScottJohnson-z5s 15 сағат бұрын
@@VanHalenIsolated Not really. Three of the callers were the same person.
@Never-mind1960
@Never-mind1960 12 сағат бұрын
People often dream of dead friends and relatives. Therefore, it is no surprise that they might get the idea that there is another world where they are still alive. Now that we know that dreams are just jumbled reruns, that door should be closed.
@prescriptivereasoning
@prescriptivereasoning Күн бұрын
RE: Holy water - Why not just one blessing on ALL of the water on the Earth? One-time deal there.
@marcosolo6491
@marcosolo6491 Күн бұрын
Correct, you are. It's not like blessing gets harder or more time consuming with increased amount of water. I bless all the water on earth. Heck, I bless all the water in the universe. There. Done. In fact, I bless all the atoms and molecules and also elementary particles in the universe - why not? All it takes is a magic incantation, apparently. While they are at it, sometime, any two christians should get together and pray that disease and hunger and natural disasters should vanish. Bible tells their followers that if any two of them ask for the same thing, it shall be done (Matthew 18:19). I find it both hilarious and extremely sad that no two christians in the history of christianity agreed to ask from their magic man something as simple as, say, to end childhood leukemia. All these imagination and humanity challenged christians seem to come up to ask from their magic man is for their football team to win the game, or for them to find their car keys.
@loki2240
@loki2240 Күн бұрын
To properly bless, you have to be holding Saint Thomas' skull... 😂
@mmoreno7137
@mmoreno7137 Күн бұрын
As to the empathy for conservatives remember most of them appear to be Christian. Christians are supposed to believe the saying "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." Take them at their word and treat them the way they treated liberals.
@Imperial-Socialist
@Imperial-Socialist Күн бұрын
Most of the Conservatives I know aren't interested in gods or theism
@SnareRushJunkie
@SnareRushJunkie Күн бұрын
Xeno sucks.
@joemiller7082
@joemiller7082 Күн бұрын
He’s the worst. Absolutely unable to think logically at all. No understanding about why what Forrest is asking what he’s asking and no clue that he’s making a terrible argument.
@RidetheGeoffening
@RidetheGeoffening 7 сағат бұрын
…….always has , for about ten fuckin years. Thankfully he’s a long time between drinks
@chinookcrafts
@chinookcrafts Күн бұрын
Was Shana just Jackie with a voice changer?
@joemiller7082
@joemiller7082 Күн бұрын
That’s what I thought was going on. lol. I’m glad I wasn’t alone.
@Imperial-Socialist
@Imperial-Socialist Күн бұрын
It's not Jackie, but it's a regular voice changer
@hailsagan8886
@hailsagan8886 23 сағат бұрын
It's definitely a voice modulator
@hailsagan8886
@hailsagan8886 23 сағат бұрын
I skip those calls
@SatansLeadGuitarist
@SatansLeadGuitarist 11 сағат бұрын
Definitely a troll with a voice modulator but I don't think its Jackie. They didn't say "meta truth" or "sub straight" or name drop any philosophers and I don't think he's physically capable of having a conversation without doing at least one of those.
@williamgraff7593
@williamgraff7593 11 сағат бұрын
Maureen is wonderful, and I'm glad the truth about Forrest has finally come out! He's an adorable charmer! Love the chemistry between y'all
@David34981
@David34981 Күн бұрын
Shana, for the record, there are millions of Italians who don't believe in a god.
@MrCanis4
@MrCanis4 22 сағат бұрын
We have a catholic cardinal who abused his nephew for over 40 years. He was convicted for this?!?! He is now in some monastery in France praying some holy marys till the end of his days. Disgusting. Belgium.
@zqxzqxzqx1
@zqxzqxzqx1 17 сағат бұрын
Forrest & John are the superduo of hosts!
@djayjp
@djayjp Күн бұрын
Xeno, c'mon man. They ask you to provide your support for your belief in a deity and you respond by saying that we can't know things about reality with absolute certainty and maybe solipsism is real, therefore, god.... 🤦‍♂. I don't know, therefore, god. lolll wtf. That's why Forrest kept asking why not believe in anything else? Because that's not a point that is specific to god. It doesn't, whatsoever, support your case for a god to exist, because you should also believe in a Toothbunny. There's xero logical DISTINCTION provided by such a line of argumentation. It is literally meaningless.
@TypographyGuru
@TypographyGuru Күн бұрын
He’s been doing that for years. Claiming he “just wants to make progress“, but that never includes him learning or conceding anything. He wants the hosts to agree with his delusion of confirming the unconfirmable deistic god, which of course will never happen. So, het gets emotional, blames and insults the hosts for being too stupid and then the calls ends. And after a couple of tries he repeats it with new hosts.
@djayjp
@djayjp 20 сағат бұрын
@@TypographyGuru Haha oh geez.... Too bad that there's little correlation between intelligence and rationality.
@morganramsay7628
@morganramsay7628 Күн бұрын
It's starting to sound like, not all believers are crazy but all crazies are believers. 30:07
@bortiz11
@bortiz11 19 сағат бұрын
Great explanations of why we no longer have vampires!! Forrest is a mythological genius.
@ookekklibarianbornagain6708
@ookekklibarianbornagain6708 Күн бұрын
I found the place that David got is claim "99% of couples who pray together never get divorced" Back in a 2001 Southern Baptist Convention poll of Christian couples who do pray together regularly, the divorce rate was under 1%. So David is talking utter bollocks.
@Imperial-Socialist
@Imperial-Socialist Күн бұрын
Yeah I found that too, AND it was a link on REDDIT lol
@jjbecker2
@jjbecker2 Күн бұрын
Callers through David strongly suggest the talking donkey was a prophecy that future Christians would talk from their asses.
@VanHalenIsolated
@VanHalenIsolated 23 сағат бұрын
Lmao omg the irony with Xeno complaining that, “Forrest totally doesn’t get this,” AFTER Forrest asked him the same question at least three times super clearly and it wasn’t answered each time because it’s obvious that Xeno doesn’t understand the question. It’s so funny when people like Xeno honestly think that they’re intelligent and then act as if they’re more intelligent than someone like Forrest.
@bootskanchelsis3337
@bootskanchelsis3337 2 сағат бұрын
The Holy Water Rant was the best thing I have heard in a longtime. Was very entertained.
@mactallica9293
@mactallica9293 17 сағат бұрын
Xeno won't answer a simple question. "You don't get it"
@ienjoylife
@ienjoylife 22 сағат бұрын
I find it interesting that every time Pat puts out some example of something that he believes could point to the supernatural… quantum physics, body wounds, sightings in nature… and then gets pushback with possible explanations, his immediate response is “I don’t really know that much about (nature, quantum physics, anatomy, etc.)”. If we’re talking about synchronicity being simultaneous occurrence of unrelated events… it seems that with Pat it’s 1) Something interesting happens in 2) a subject I really don’t know that much about… therefore supernatural.
@sashakononova8968
@sashakononova8968 13 сағат бұрын
FINALLY SOMEONE TALKING ABOUT LAST CHANCE TO SEE! theres an audiobook of that read by Douglas Adams who wrote most of it
@CartoonHero1986
@CartoonHero1986 9 сағат бұрын
We need more callers like Maureen and the second David those were some genuine well balanced conversations
@morganramsay7628
@morganramsay7628 Сағат бұрын
Is anyone else picking up on the extraordinary levels of gulibility so many many believers demonstrate??
@IRGeamer
@IRGeamer 19 сағат бұрын
Shana: "That's the kind of thing atheists say on Reddit." (In response to Catholic Priest abuse) Also Shana: "The crusades were defensive." "I don't have a real problem with ignorance. We are all ignorant about a variety of subjects we are not currently aware of. The real problem is when that ignorance is wilful, baseless and used as a weapon against anyone who disagrees with you, or anyone who has the nerve to present facts you don't want to accept." - anyone who actually cares about verifiable realit
@xmillion1704
@xmillion1704 Күн бұрын
Xeno’s pile of BS is too vast for science to determine its scope.
@Apostate_Alexei
@Apostate_Alexei 15 сағат бұрын
David, I like you too. Please keep questioning these things. I hear the cognitive Dissonance in your voice, and I desperately want you to be free from that pain. ❤
@Salmonboy5000
@Salmonboy5000 9 сағат бұрын
Ban callers that use voice changers. Problem solved.
@nickydaviesnsdpharms3084
@nickydaviesnsdpharms3084 16 сағат бұрын
David's call was so dammed good! The 2nd caller David. Well worth a second watch too.
@shanewilson7994
@shanewilson7994 15 сағат бұрын
Mark also seems to be holding back laughter the entire time, I don't think he's remotely serious.
@MaureenOHara-kn2pj
@MaureenOHara-kn2pj 7 сағат бұрын
Thanks for the comments. I am still deconstructing. And don’t hate theists. If anything feel sorry for them that they aren’t free like you are.
@vicu_negru
@vicu_negru 6 сағат бұрын
Why would anyone hate theists? I for one despise them, I do hate the racists, sexists, etc.
@vicu_negru
@vicu_negru 5 сағат бұрын
Glad to hear you are deconstructing from religion, it takes some serious guts to do so! And give up something you thought to be true for all your life... I can't even begin to understand how hard it might be... Because I have became an atheist at about 14... Congrats! ❤❤❤ And keep it up!
@RichWoods23
@RichWoods23 Күн бұрын
Gallium! Is Forrest going to do a 1970s Uri Geller impersonation? He's got the hair for it, anyway.
@christianblevins1870
@christianblevins1870 17 сағат бұрын
Xeno you are special pleading your god(creator) into existence
@niblick616
@niblick616 Күн бұрын
Denialism is all that theists have left to offer. Some deny what their own book says. Some deny that other Christians are Christian. Extreme denialists, such as creationists, deny reality itself because reality upsets them so much.
@wadeinn463
@wadeinn463 Күн бұрын
I forgot i used to dab with holy water and believed it for 18 yrs. What an idiot i was.
@mrg1981
@mrg1981 Күн бұрын
Forrest has never had a bad day, but he has had a hell of a bad year, apparently.
@Flibberty-Giblets
@Flibberty-Giblets 21 сағат бұрын
The second David call made all the other nonsense worth it. That was some fantastic good cop/bad cop. Well done Forrest and GE 👏 and keep pushing forward David!
@Vondoodle
@Vondoodle Күн бұрын
The 1980-ish ‘Programming the Z80’ book published by Sybex is the best book for understanding how a computer works. A little techy - very difficult to find nowadays in book form.
@Alphacat1100
@Alphacat1100 Күн бұрын
Mark is a troll…drop him!
@Quiroze1
@Quiroze1 13 сағат бұрын
David is on his way to be liberated from the shackles of religion
@jacketrussell
@jacketrussell 22 сағат бұрын
Deconstruction isn't a thing if you've never believed in the first place.
@joikaboela8849
@joikaboela8849 Күн бұрын
The holy water rain, is why there is no vampires in Africa 😆
@MaureenOHara-kn2pj
@MaureenOHara-kn2pj 3 сағат бұрын
Thank you
@jamiegallier2106
@jamiegallier2106 Күн бұрын
Great show. Some incredibly irritating callers and trolls, but the hosts were on fire. ❤
@russellh9894
@russellh9894 16 сағат бұрын
1:49:15 It's highly suspect that this caller mainly answered in one or two words. It makes sense that he would answer that way if he has a voice changer.
@ScottJohnson-z5s
@ScottJohnson-z5s 15 сағат бұрын
My favorite moment was when he mentioned Muhammed in the bible.
@shanewilson7994
@shanewilson7994 13 сағат бұрын
Also Mark, I'm not an astrophysicist, but I've put more than 2 seconds of thought into if Genesis matches the Big Bang Theory and if you know even just the extreme basics (high school level) then it doesn't work. And if you get to more advanced understanding, its even worse.
@wj2036
@wj2036 19 сағат бұрын
Forest, not only when it rains, but the moisture in the air as well. Yeah, vampires didnt stand a chance once magic was invented
@shanewilson7994
@shanewilson7994 15 сағат бұрын
Mark, no Genesis doesn't line up with the Big Bang theory, it says the earth predates the sun, that plants predate the sun, these things are not correct.
@TheKiroshi
@TheKiroshi 19 сағат бұрын
The fact xeno gets the most base-like stereotypical response wrong about philosophy makes me think he gets his idea from drugs and whoever was around him at the time. The idea goes; "science can explain 'what' and philosophy can explain the 'why'. Its not "can says we don't know!" No.. saying "we dont know" isn't the point of philosophy.
@zackc3767
@zackc3767 22 сағат бұрын
Cain and Abel isn't a parable about brotherly hate it's a parable about agriculturalists vs pastoralists.
@ekipogh
@ekipogh Күн бұрын
Host, please stop allowing trolls in with the voice changers. It's impossible to understand what they are saying and what they are saying isn't worth to listen too.
@adas2409
@adas2409 12 сағат бұрын
Don't know how the hosts couldn't see that Mark was a troll....he was constantly snickering throughout the call trying to hide his laughter
@SaffronHammer
@SaffronHammer 22 сағат бұрын
I can understand that in the context of being in a cult. But I think the majority of religious people are not afraid to talk to nonbelievers or fear fellow believers knowing they did. You’re probably right: he’s in a high control / coercive / high demand / fundamentalist sect of. Christianity . I get that he likely is doubting but does not yet realize this, so he calls to defend the irrational indoctrination he’s received since birth and fears severe repercussions. I was once one of those Believers and I have deep sympathy for him and wish him well-freedom of mind and conscious and a much better more peaceful life.
@l.6606
@l.6606 21 сағат бұрын
So there with you, GE. All doped up on mucinex, zero brewskies, and going nowhere. ❤ This cold sucks. I sound like a 60yo smoker.
@Deadman1000
@Deadman1000 2 сағат бұрын
Gotta love how Pat called in to talk about physics with next to no education on the matter
@taurculh69
@taurculh69 23 сағат бұрын
For the record, Holy Water can be mixed with normal water to about 49% before it stops being Holy Water. I can't make this stuff up, that's what apparently the church beleives.
@ericampda
@ericampda 23 сағат бұрын
Forrest Valkai, patron saint of logic and rationality, instructs people to not accept claims until there is evidentiary warrant to do so. There you go, Shana. Go, be free
@shanewilson7994
@shanewilson7994 15 сағат бұрын
@Maureen - at least with me, there wasn't really much sadness on my end, initially there was some fear of what if I'm wrong, and quite a bit of anger from being taught things which are demonstrably false for much of my life, but both of those faded in a year or so. And over the decades since, I've noticed that I do have fewer depressive issues (like John, I suffer(ed) from depression, and my church/family was fairly against seeking help for depression outside of the church). And over the years, I've also become a happier person in general because while I'm not looking forward to death, the fact that life is limited makes it so much more precious and there is just more incentive to learn and be a good person. And if you do deconstruct, I hope your process is good, but please do reach out to recovering from religion or other sources that may be able to help with any other issues that you do run into because having those resources can be incredibly helpful.
@Never-mind1960
@Never-mind1960 12 сағат бұрын
When Xtains say that only the New Testament counts now, ask them how god was so wrong before. And if he was wrong before, couldn't he be wrong now. How do you make that judgement? This reminds me of that George Carlin routine. "What is the value of a divine plan if any shmuck with a two-bit prayer book can come along and change it?"
@djayjp
@djayjp Күн бұрын
The Gospels are consistent, but they're not historical... 😂😂😂 What IQ do you have to have to say this utter bs...? That's like saying Spider Man is real because his character is consistent as depicted in comic books... 😂
@scotthoenle7693
@scotthoenle7693 8 сағат бұрын
Im having massive deja vu woth david, like this exact identical call is on repeat.
@orinjayce
@orinjayce Күн бұрын
About Cain and Abel being about all brothers... nonsense.I love my brother and have never wished him harm.
@loki2240
@loki2240 Күн бұрын
I have two brothers, and I've never been envious or jealous of them, let alone tried to end them.
@Imperial-Socialist
@Imperial-Socialist Күн бұрын
Also, I don't have siblings so does that mean no gods are possible for me?
@AngieBaby666
@AngieBaby666 Күн бұрын
I was just going to comment about Homeopathy when you brought it up, Forrest. Somehow I don’t think Catholics give this much thought. It’s just Magic… stop asking pesky questions!!!! Lol
@ExcelsiorUnltd
@ExcelsiorUnltd 23 сағат бұрын
The only thing Mark said that wasn’t total bullshit: “I’m not an astrophysicist”
@Magnusfication
@Magnusfication 22 сағат бұрын
Forrests question about holy water reminds me of one my favourite Neil Degrasse Tyson explanations: there are more water molecules in a glass of water, than there are glasses of water in all the earths oceans. Also there are more air molecules in a breath of air, than there are breaths of air in the earths atmosphere. This means that we today, take in water and air molecules that have passed through the kidneys and lungs of Jesus (if he ever existed) but also by Hitler. We are all deeply connected with eachother across this planet and time through the fluids that we consume and the air we breathe. I realise this does nothing to answer the holy water question, but my take is that holy water is bs anyway 😂 so any questions we might ask about it could just be BS'd away.
@Leith_Crowther
@Leith_Crowther 22 сағат бұрын
Why can’t the world’s priests just save some time and bless all water on the planet…?
@fmdj
@fmdj 10 сағат бұрын
6:55 yesss Maureen. I don't perticuliarly like Christians in general, but I think Maureen is my favorite caller of the show. Damn it Maureen, you're making it much more difficult to just hate all Christians without exception, how dare you be living proof that exception to idiocy is possible 😅 Edit: every call less of a believer, way to go girl, you're a really impressive person.
@Mmmmilo
@Mmmmilo 4 сағат бұрын
Am I the only one who thinks “Shana” is just Jackie with a voice changer? Can we screen better somehow?
@vicu_negru
@vicu_negru 3 сағат бұрын
No... I have to hand it to Jackie he is unique, and loves to jerk of to him being "smarter" than his opponent... So definitely not Jackie, and since no mention of philosophy or psychology thus no Jackie
Colbert's Dancing Breaks The Internet | NJ's Ominous Sky Visitors | Your Air Fryer Is Listening
9:58
Леон киллер и Оля Полякова 😹
00:42
Канал Смеха
Рет қаралды 4,6 МЛН
BAYGUYSTAN | 1 СЕРИЯ | bayGUYS
37:51
bayGUYS
Рет қаралды 1,6 МЛН
Chain Game Strong ⛓️
00:21
Anwar Jibawi
Рет қаралды 39 МЛН
To Brawl AND BEYOND!
00:51
Brawl Stars
Рет қаралды 16 МЛН
losing faith | my departure from theism [cc]
29:11
TheraminTrees
Рет қаралды 884 М.
r/sad cringe is SAD
14:08
Max Megas
Рет қаралды 627
The worst English phrasebook ever written
17:22
RobWords
Рет қаралды 206 М.
Biden Claims He's Leaving the United States "In a Better Place" Than Four Years Ago
15:33
Леон киллер и Оля Полякова 😹
00:42
Канал Смеха
Рет қаралды 4,6 МЛН