Lorna Luft & Liza Minnelli - Tale of Two Sisters (Judy Garland) - Part 3

Lorna Luft and Liza Minnelli talk about life growing up with their mother Judy Garland. This was aired in the UK on Living TV in 2004

[@mountainfolk2511]

I love how they speak well of their mother.

[@eleanoron6742]

Thanks

[@melisagalvalizi6982]

Why wouldn't they?? Addiction is a disease, not a moral trait.

[@rossmerchant8435]

​@@melisagalvalizi6982 Addiction can make people do horrible things and leave lasting damage to the people around them. It's not always easy for loved ones to understand and forgive. Regardless, I think it really speaks to what a good person Judy Garland was that her children still adore her despite her addiction.

[@loonyspoonie3655]

Judy gave her children as much as she could while Hollywood tried its hardest to break her apart. She has three beautiful children who are full of bravery, vibrancy, and intelligence. They were loved and they were cherished.

[@desertrehabpt211]

I never get tired of seeing any Judy Garland production. During her MGM days there was a combination of directors producers actors that seemed to work. These productions were magical. Judy had a beautiful and sweet manner that was enduring and made you certain that she was that way in her everyday life. She made you feel so good and uplifted and her talent singing and dancing and laughter were hers alone. The other junk sorted details of daily life won’t even be acknowledged by me because I know those facts are distorted. If she had a bad time or bad day, it had to become a tragedy made by the media need for sensationalism. I think she had to be a basically happy person. She had lovely children who were attached to and loved their MAMA. Those kids are solid and sound and had to have that solidity in their lives. Judy’s infectious humor and love was there with her children. In movies where there was a child present, she always showed a sweet and loving tender gesture toward each child. I only hope she can know how much she was loved and understood by most of us who feel we really knew her and adored her. All one has to do is really look.

[@sydludwig1826]

I love the respect these sisters have for each other.

[@simbagaybuns243]

Judy was sassy as hell. I love her.

[@ddjmfan]

I read Lorna's book and her daughter looked just like her grandmother Judy when she was little. It's uncanny.

[@spike84able]

Its nice to hear Liza and Lorna are doing good these days. Its amazing how they have overcome there mothers addiction and death. They are both very strong women. Judy Garland was an amazing person and I wish I was could turn back time and get to see her live on stage that would be awsome.

[@jmcg6189]

She was awesome. I saw her for my 16th birthday and became a fanatic overnight.

[@Gagababymonster1]

this makes me love lorna even more

[@Gwenster11]

Judy was so beautiful.

[@LisaMarie51968]

Judy Garland was such a Special Lady, So Beautiful and Classy! She is missed :( She was definitely cut from a Special Amazing Different Cloth!!!!!

[@evajawidzik2562]

I loved listening to her

[@evajawidzik2562]

She was a simply beautiful woman and looks like mother that loved her children.You can her the love in the daughters voices. She made me feel so good when I heard her sing.

[@nitamay3534]

I love Liza Minnelli and her family I was scared at a early age of Wizard of Oz. But as I grew older it's my favorite movie of all time, love you Liza

[@shawnstone72]

1 Lol. Do I regret it? No! I had a great time. 2nd best line. No I only do it at night. I love her honesty.

[@MariaFerreira-hi9gk]

All through my teens, whatever I was doing would fade right away, if that song ‘ Somewhere, over the Rainbow ‘ was playing in my hearing. I hope it will be the last sounds I hear at my end. That song holds all of my deepest secrets and memories.

[@armanddimeo6575]

Addiction is always a tragedy. This interview is very touching. These two women do have some insight as to how their mother's disease affected them in childhood. The point is not to assign blame but to get out of denial and begin one's own healing process.

[@renesmaesherman352]

Liza looks the most like her mom. They both sing like their mom, so glad they have each other.

[@mayaa5048]

Renesmae Sherman - not true, liza sings like Judy, Lorna wants to sing like that but can't.

[@youhavethismetoo1206]

She said the most beautiful thing once when an interviewer asked her why so many homosexuals went to her show and she immediately said she doesn't care what things are said about her but don't try and say anything about her audience.

[@respecthewoman]

Wow. she was an awesome person all around. You know how you hear stories of actors who are horrible behind closed doors and or bad to their families. Her only issue was her innocence and not knowing how MGM made her an addict. I can't say that was genetic as much as forced at the time due to her trust in them and their ignorance with the entire ordeal. She seemed like an awesome mother, person outside of what they put her through. I always enjoyed all of her movies as a child.

[@jennkins94]

Lornas straight out admission about snorting so much cocaine caught me off guard, love how she and Liza overcame it !

[@klassicalmuzik]

My art teacher met her while he was bar tending at a bar she was performing at in NY in the 60s. He sat down with her at the bar after it was closed and he gave her free drinks (even though he wasnt suppose to LOL). He told me she was very funny, but she was somewhat mellow at the time. but she wasnt mellow sad, she was more mellow like she was perhaps tired but he could still see the twinkle in her eyes. He said that he asked her if she enjoyed throwing the trinkets at Gene Kelly in The Pirate, and she said "only on the first take".

[@rainbowinthedark453]

WHAT a super neat memory to share. They dont make em like Ms. Judy Garland anymore no, that mold was broke right after she was born. The one and only. I'm so mad that manager stole all her money and how financially ruined he left her. Her children are beautiful.

[@outinsider]

"The world lost a legend, the world lost a voice....I lost my mom."- SO POWERFUL.

[@Cablecol]

EXCELLENT INTERVIEWER WHO LET THESE LEGENDARY WOMEN TELL THEIR STORY💞💯

[@jellybones423]

liza is such a sweet warm humbling person!

[@Jayla60]

This is a wonderful interview with Liza and Lorna. I'm a huge fan and never saw this before. Thank you for posting it.

[@markwhitman9029]

Had Judy Garland merely been a Hollywood star with a drug problem we would 50 plus years later say "OH yes just like so and so " BUT there is a difference: JUDY GARLAND was inarguably the greatest talent of the 20th Century and is remembered for the positive things she did as a performer. Most of the other stars that fell by the wayside are an afterthought!

[@annwilliam1295]

I love you judy, thank you for everything,music, film, book, show, interview,...loved everything , top of my list of who I would have loved to meet. R.I.P

[@Pixiebabylove]

i can't believe these r judy garlands daughters. to me judy will always be dorerthy R.I.P beautiful woman xxx

[@libertygiveme1987]

You have to admit, just about EVERYONE LOVED Judy!!!!

[@xtinaandravenfan]

Awwwww thats soooo sweet its a rainbow for your grandmother.

[@Telboy555]

Judy would be so proud

[@lindaburns5817]

Two lovely ladies! Beautiful, and lovely done and said. I remember this. God bless them. 🦋💜🌷❤❤💕♥️⚘🎵🌹

[@Zander45]

Read Lorna/s book about her mother"Me and My shadows" which was made into a TV movie in 2001.I enjoed the TV movie yet the book goes into greater detail.

[@mystuff3693]

Obviously I never new this woman personally , I so wish I did , but throughout all the public media I some how find Judy funny , honest and lovable, she lived her life to the full as far as she could , Judy was a mother simply trying her best , her daughters are a credit to her . She will always live on in my heart , I grew up watching her movies and they bring back a lot of happy memories with me and my mum . I’m going to make sure my now granddaughter will know the true story of Judy! And watch her movies, love to all the family from just a plain ordinary mother from Scotland xx

[@desertrehabpt211]

I hope comments continue about Judy Garland forever. What I see is an amazing child, girl, and woman. I really don’t know of one person or celebrity that has more of an incredible emotion on me than Judy Garland. I don’t think there is a day that goes by that I don’t watch one of her movies or read an article or listen to a commentary or watch a replay of one of the Judy Garland television shows. I am extremely protective of her as if she were my child. When I her in any one of her productions it is hard to imagine how she managed to do everything so magnificently. She is surreal. I am so grateful that God gave the world such a wonder. She takes my breath away.

[@lbwagner9886]

@Lorna & Liza, I am so sorry you had this childhood experience with your mother. I am very grateful that you have shared this part of your life with us, the average people. It helps me to be more empathic toward my mother and father.

[@laraeejohnson7880]

LETS LEAVE THEM ALONE AND LOVE THE PEOPLE IN OUR LIVES WE ARE SUPPOSED TO LOVE AND MEND THE STUFF WITH OURFAMILIES

[@ramardo1994]

I love Judy Garland

[@iAmMadeOfSoup]

I never knew the pride flag was because of Judy

[@cyndisalcedo4131]

We learn something new everyday🌈🌈🌈🌈 RIP Judy🌈🌈🌈🌈

[@desertrehabpt211]

What I love so much about Judy was her humility. She was asked once why the gay community was so attracted to her, she said she didn’t see that. She just loved every person who spent their hard earned money to come sit in the uncomfortable seats to see her and hear her. She felt such a companionship with her audience. Her children are strong and stable and very intelligent. I believe Judy gave her children that sense of well-being through LOVE. I admire her so much. Through the thick and thin of it, she was there for her kids, her career and her beloved fans. She felt she could never give enough. That is what made this adorable creature so unique and overwhelming. She is to this day, so beautiful on so many levels, it HURTS❣️

[@theraven6843]

Desert Rehab PT Such a beautiful way of putting it!

[@MrRJMGREEN]

Thank you so much. I will order the book tomorow. You are the greatest.

[@ChristopherF]

Thanks for posting this. It's great stuff!!

[@TheJazzlady40]

Judy was honest you can see that

[@barrett7893]

Judy Garland was one of the greatest actresses of Old Hollywood! She is so missed even today. It’s so sad she passed away at a young age! 🌈🌈🌈😰😰😰💯💯💯

[@dianekiley4394]

H[×ol#wwa@*

[@SirParcifal]

and P.S. my sister and I have fought like cats and dogs and since my father has died, we're getting along better - sometimes parents' dysfunctional relationships put strains on siblings because - that old expression - Monkey See Monkey do - which to me, means we were subconsciously programmed to fight because that what my parents mostly did

[@bohdiisubaru6336]

Long live JUDY GARLAND 💕

[@kidbcp]

Liza at 6:25. A word the should never be uttered Shame! God i love her!

[@Zander45]

I read the book in 1998,so I don't remember all of it. I do recall a few sad and bizarre incidents. Overall,the book is written with love and respect..

[@firefliesuk]

It doesn't work in the US due to copyright of music used in that part of the documentary. It will definitely work in the UK

[@PositiveZ7]

That must have been hard for Judy's children not to be able to grieve for the loss of their mother. I really agree with Liza, shame is such a terrible thing.

[@84joslynn]

The fans only loved the brand...no one was there while she was alive

[@monroefan1992]

One of the funeral scenes is the funeral of Marilyn Monroe

[@cda345]

I think Barry Manilow really summed up Judy well at the end there. I couldn't agree more with what he said.

[@Crimetales123]

She doesn't want people to say her mother's life was tragic and she had a good life. Then she helps make a movie that portrays her life as tragic

[@mayaa5048]

Michelle Vedros - wow, you're absolutely right, dobble standard. I guess she didn't care while making money for the book and the movie.

[@lenwelch2195]

What she’s saying is that Judy had tragic things happen to her be she herself wasn’t a tragedy.

[@cellarcoat]

@one4all1000: To quote Sammy Davis Jr, "She was the first of the super super stars." Yes, there have been others through the years, but Judy was the FIRST of her kind...to experience the drugs, the pressures to be thin/beautiful, the constant invasion of privacy, etc. that comes with stardom. And the questions are updated through the years. I can't tell you how many times I've heard somebody from Judy's family say something questionable, only to find out it is/was, indeed, true.

[@ozboy39]

Very interesting - 1 thing i noticed was the funeral footage - some of it was from Marilyn Monroes funeral in 1962 where the people were walking into that chapel and standing outside the cemetary. wonder why this was included in Judys footage?.

[@janetmcbee]

♡Just a wonder with life, isn't it...!?! Your Love within, is Wonderful ! And,, well, I can't say enough about that!♡ You and yours are not only beautiful on the outside,, but of the INside too. I needed tot ell you that,,and to just be happy, and,,, gosh, Be You!!! Thank You both, so very much, to share. Just,,, THANK YOU! From the Top,, and Bottom of my heart! ♡♥♡♥♡♥ XO,,, XO

[@anairenemartinez165]

JUDY BELONGS to the world.

[@Susie_1111]

I love this lady and I always will. Some were over the rainbow 🌈 xx 💋

[@michellerosemarieflynn8897]

I AGREE WITH YOU BARRY ! IT IS ALL ABOUT HOW THE MUSIC MAKES YOU FEEL ! not what they did

[@barrett7893]

🌈 🌈 🌈Over the Rainbow 🌈 🌈 🌈

[@jacksprat2178]

Why was Lorna so concerned about keeping Judy's cause of death secret? Family secrets keep people ill.

[@stardusth2o]

I don’t think she wanted to keep it a secret per say, I think she was just dreading having to eventually explain it to her children.

[@pattibrooks1907]

They are proud of their Mom ! Judy was so gifted talnted and funny ! She could make you laugh and cry but she was not a tragic figure like people have said ! She I feel think had tragic things happen to her she still was no tragedy or tragic in anyway shape or form ! She was not fat nor ugly ! She may of beem not a beauty but she was a very pretty nice looking lady !Dont forget that !

[@giuliosettepassi347]

I love Judy

[@lianelayman7577]

Judy really is a good looking lady.

[@henryjackson2357]

Liane Layman Well, not really. (1/17/19)

[@rdo1231]

legends

[@whatadollslife]

these two women need to meet Michael Jacksons kids to network on survival and caring

[@ClarenceFisher]

Liza was a friend of his, so I think she did.

[@stefansnellgrove]

Never rich just poor that hits people in their 20’s hard

[@SaxonC]

@lcowles When I met Lorna, Sid & Joe in 1997 at the Judy fest in GR,MN.,she was writing her book at the time.I asked how Liza was & she wasn't too warm about that subject .Liza like Sid, weren't too keen on what Lorna wrote. Sid Luft himself said his daughter's book was filled with lies & she was only 15 at the time & she didnt know much of what went on in judy'slife. Liza was around more than Lorna but in the movie Liza was hardly shown. Sid corrected Lorna in public when lorna made up a story.

[@thaliajen]

Is part 5 available in America? If not, can it be viewed when I visit the UK? I'm realy very interested in seeing the rest of the show!

[@markru2]

I wonder if these two sisters would ever perform together either as an event or together but I am not sure as to what condition Liza's health is to allow this dream pairing performance to ever happen. I wonder what Lorna's offspring have achieved in their life. Best candid interview I have ever seen done about either of them.

[@uncoverbrother]

i know that's their mom and all but it is quite TRAGIC for anybody to die at 47 of an accidental overdose. what else would u call it?

[@desertrehabpt211]

An accident. Period

[@betsystewart9786]

I believe Judy would have gone to Betty Ford. She was a strong and funny Woman ❤️

[@slobomotion]

He says Lorna went away from drugs and she looks shocked and tries to stop him.

[@betsystewart9786]

❤🥰

[@zafnatpaneaj4992]

Thank you Judy !!! The first ever gay Icon !!!

[@firefliesuk]

No. He's a photographer

[@saphiredewdrop]

i think they are saying her life was not tragic, although short. a person can go through bad things in life but doesn't mean they are just sad tragic feeling people.

[@Davylp]

What happened to their brother? Is he in the show biz?

[@MsDisneylandlover]

my mom pass too

[@GETole]

F the people who abused Garland and robbed her of her earnings.

[@jsmith034086]

Ummm that's Monroe's funeral scene with the Greensons lol

[@robertgold3868]

I caught that too. How strange is that?

[@sydneyprescott3374]

Lol omg

[@MrRJMGREEN]

Does anyone know more about the strain Judy's death had on her children? I was always obsessed with that. She died when they were so young.

[@saphiredewdrop]

@uncoverbrother , you're welcome. :)

[@grai]

I'd love to know who's fighting to get in the room with Liza Minnelli and Lorna Luft - I guess they must be much more famous in America than they are in Britain

[@mayaa5048]

grai - I know this comment is 10 years old but I have to say, you're right. Lorna is not that relevant, Liza is as she's an Oscar winner and well known in Broadway.

[@stupotts909]

Knew about Liza in Britain since 1972

[@tiffanyroseangeles7517]

Interesting about Barry Manilow!!!

[@uncoverbrother]

@saphiredewdrop now, i can get with that. makes perfect sense. thanks :)

[@vickiepaul8258]

I never knew the rainbow 🌈 for gay pride involved Judy Garland. I learned something knew today. Judy raised, I'm sure with help, some beautiful, loyal children.

[@tiffanyroseangeles7517]

Lorna likely had PTSD at the time or something close like that. It must have been shocking,to hear how she died. Such a public death. I did know Peru once myself,stopped years ago never to return. Its the devils powder,not just fun" it's very very dangerous & ppl should wise up & quit! While your young,until it gets you in the end.....or it'll lead to worse is REALITY.

[@littlejennhunter1803]

Lorna is still alive

[@eleanoron6742]

TIffanyrose has

[@tiffanyroseangeles7517]

Eleanor On your just a troll I do not know of you.

[@tiffanyroseangeles7517]

Little Jenn Hunter yes I know

[@pinkosmondfan]

Judy and Michael were tragic. Anyone who is so lost and confused that they don't know which end is up, and anyone who is SO talented, beautiful, loved and has 3 beautiful children to live for but still cannot get off of drugs is tragic. Talented, beautiful, but tragic.

[@HazelJuanitaMillanHoffman]

I didn't know that was why the rainbow is the Gay flag.

[@tishsharay7509]

Its not it's because of Benjamin Franklin judy just stood for gay rights

[@nuckinfuts7610]

@Pink Floyd most people above the age of five strongly believe 2+2 = 4. In all actuality, 2+2 = 7734206. See? You're not the only one who can easily regurgitate fictional bullshittery. 🌈

[@eighthoneknows8273]

Nuckin Futs 🙄

[@jennhoff03]

Hazel- Yeah, I was surprised, too! Although I just googled it and didn't see the Wizard of Oz cited on the Wikipedia page of the origins of the flag. Maybe it's just a part of it.

[@mayaa5048]

Jenn Hoff - pink Floyd is right about the flag.

[@Diehardwickedfan]

@damone77 how did it go? drug or drink free?

[@SaxonC]

Lorna is an "OK" entertainer but she just doesn't have that magnetic voice or personality the way Judy Garland had and still has. The 2nd part of this documentary Lorna again gets her facts wrong by saying That Judy sung "Lorna" during her 1962 TV special but it was actually in early 1964 when Judy put the words to the theme to her TV show to get the song "Lorna". Her movie about Judy in 2001 wasn't veyr accurate. Sid Luft even said most of it were lies. Which I believe is true.

[@whitenoiseihearu4018]

The genetics are real...

[@Pixiebabylove]

liza is the imagine of judy, when judy is in her fourties

[@ninamaldonado2285]

It seemed to me that Lorna thinks she knows more about life than her sister. If you hear them speaking and how different they come off on their own you can see that Liza is a lot more intelligent and has more common sense than Lorna. I don't know her personally but Liza always gave me the impression that she was a lonely child and young woman. Someone like the character, Pooke, she played in the movie, The Sterile Cookoo. Wanting to be accepted and loved. Pookie wanted love but did not know how to give it back without suffocating her boyfriend and eventually he left her. I think Liza dances better than she sings because she has always tried to sound like her mother. I rather see her act and dance not sing.

[@cobrakai84]

did Barry Manilow get a gig for this doco acting as their brother?

[@doramccanna6973]

What about the brother? Winder how he is?

[@omahaw1728]

How old was Lorna when her mom died?

[@lydialacey]

i believe 16

[@actualwakandangirl7121]

So that’s why the flag is a rainbow, I always wanted to know

[@mayaa5048]

Actual Wakandan girl - you got your answer.

[@lesleyhawkes2983]

What happened to joey,you never hear anything abt him,and they don’t seem to talk abt him either

[@RobertDillman]

Whatever happened to Joseph Luft?

[@akrenwinkle]

This is pretty much a taboo subject rarely discussed. Judy didn't abstain from drugs during Joe's pregnancy; that is a big revelation in Lorna's book that either went unnoticed, or people preferred to ignore. Lorna defends it because- according to her- nobody knew about the function of the placenta in the 1950s. Strangely, this was not edited out, which makes Judy seem the world's most unfit mother, and Lorna just plain stupid. Joe barely made it through delivery, and over the years has been called "slow," and he, himself, has admitted to cognitive problems. Out of deference to Joe, and maybe more so to Judy, he has been described as a photographer, but there is no evidence to support that, or any other occupation.

[@RobertDillman]

A Krenwinkle I never heard that. What a shame.

[@SAEXROME]

A Krenwinkle He is most definitely a photographer and a quick google search will show you his works.

[@akrenwinkle]

SAEXROME Provide one link of his work as a professional photographer. Provide one link of his doing any paid work apart from appearing at Judy-related events.

[@matthewwisniewski6284]

The gay flag was not made for Judy Garland

[@evajawidzik2562]

truth

[@mayaa5048]

Matthew Wisniewski - true, Lorna is so full of it by saying things that aren't true.