Losi DBXL-E 2.0 is it worth it!?

Thinking about buying a Losi DBXL-E 2.0? In this video i break down the Losi DBXLE 2.0 and if its a good RC basher and what upgrades should be done to this RC buggy to get the most out of it
Upgrades: Hobbywing Max 5, Arrma Outcast 8S backflips, dgi racing turnbuckles and 2” wheel extenders
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[@Pauly_______]

Ive had mine 1 1/2 yrs with just Duratrax Hatchet x added. Great machine other than drive pins need tightened down. Zero issues, great machine

[@midwestern_rc]

I’ve sold mine since. It was fun for a little bit but I got bored with it kinda quick

[@ParcoUpchurch]

@@midwestern_rc Sorry, you do not have it. I just got mine and followed almost all your great advice. I did do the DGI 1" hex extenders, and I got the 8S Octcast Dboots Backflips like yours. Issue is I cannot get the DGI lugs to screw close enough to the tire to tighten. Stops maybe 2-4mm. Does not matter if you got 2" over 1" on side to put the tire on will be the same. How did you get the DGI lugs to tighten down? I do not want to grind the hex. Did you use washers? If so, what did you do? Thx

[@superchargerone]

Very good and fair review! love it. I am looking in to a DBXL-E also when I chanced upon your channel. Love the content and advice. 1/5 is expensive not to mention the cost of 2 or 3 sets of 4sx2 batteries. thanks for your comments, it has helped me more in the decision making process than several other reviews.

[@midwestern_rc]

Awesome, thank you!

[@joseCalderon1976]

Yup. I have an XRT. I don't beat it up too badly, but I have landed upside down a few times. The only thing I've broken after like 15 battery packs is the wing mount. And it took me a while to do it. Thanks for the video. I've spent more money in my Arrma 8s trucks than what you mentioned here 😅

[@3SonsRC]

Great video brother.... Honest and very helpful to the community... Thats the way to do it! I thought about one of these but I decided against because I go a little silly with the sends... So I decided on the 30 degree N gonna do Electric Conversion sans Thunder RC my bro. Wanted a big ground ripper but you know me, I'm gonna get stupid and go FULL SEND once and a while off the biggest thing I can find😏😲 Appreciate ya

[@midwestern_rc]

Appreciate that man 🤝 and lookin forward to those videos 😬

[@Evergreen085]

Thunder RC bashes the shit out of this car! Everyone else kind of just farts around lol. With that said I've seen some killer videos with this rig that still make me want one. You kind of just have to know what your getting. This was a great video and I appreciate it. I own an Xmaxx and Kraton 8s and want to add this to my fleet. Every car needs upgrades lets be honest. I like the honesty from this video. Great content keep it coming!

[@midwestern_rc]

If you’re experience with the Kraton and Xmaxx I think this would be the perfect vehicle for ya to add to the fleet 😎 and you can swap the Kraton wheels on after getting the wheel extenders and really enjoy this thing!

[@Adamhc75]

I have had my dbxle 2.0 for 2 years now and have not had any major issues with it whatsoever. The only thing that went wrong was a motor bearing. Horizon Hobby sent me a complete motor under warranty. I run it at least once a week, if not more. My choice of batteries is the Zeee lipo 7200 mah 4s hard packs. After 2 years of weekly running, I still get 6900 mah of capacity out of them. The only upgrade that i have done other than tires is I bought a second stock servo and the twin servo steering kit. This setup has more than enough power to turn any tire.

[@midwestern_rc]

What diff oils are you running?

[@Adamhc75]

@Midwestern_RC The front and rear diffs are still stock weights. I have changed the center diff to 500,000 weight diff fluid. I also forgot to mention that one other upgrade that I have done is changed all the bearings to fast eddy bearings as I destroyed the stock bearings within like 3 packs as I was running on the beach at the time not realizing what the sand was doing to the bearings until it was too late. So far, the fast eddy bearings have been great.

[@ahwayzcool4630]

I have this truck and love it. The only upgrades I put into it was castle 1100kv motor and monster esc, 1 inch wheel extenders, thicker center diff and front and rear diff fluid, stronger steering servo, stronger wheel and tire combo, larger battery packs. Running 13 tooth pinion on the 1100kv motor but I also have 15, 16 and 18 tooth pinions.

[@midwestern_rc]

What servo

[@ahwayzcool4630]

@midwestern_rc savox I believe. Much higher torque than original.

[@jaybomb5022]

​@@midwestern_rcI recommend perfect pass monster with adapter. Very fast with a true 55Kg torque rating.

[@driverman8615]

Been really doing my reseach and I think you convinced me to give it a go. I am not a "hard" basher but I do like to have fun! Thanks for your input.

[@midwestern_rc]

Dude if you’re not a hard basher I think you would really enjoy this. Definitely don’t need the max 5 upgrade. I would still do the DGI wheel extenders and run Arrma 8S wheels. And then just leave it as is. My turnbuckles broke on a pretty big jump so mild to medium bashing you’ll be set 😎

[@chrisgonzales153]

You'll like it man I have 2 and it rips

[@markamd1]

Nice rig bro

[@midwestern_rc]

Thanks 👍

[@SebastianLong]

I have a 5ive T myself and my thing is DO NOT go cheap on aftermarket parts with RCs this big. It will NOT last. If you are like "holy crap thats expensive" then you are doing it right. The crap "upgrades" are actually a downgrade. My 5T is my favorite RC and this is coming from a guy who said a 1/6 Super Rock Rey (which i have three of mind you) is enough. Larger scale RCs are built better and often a lot more durable than someone would think it is. 100% recommend anyone getting a true 1/5 scale. The Outcast 8s (which i also have) and Kraton 8s are not 1/5 scale even though they advertise them as such. Barely 1/6 scale if not for the length of the A-arms.

[@SuperJESSE327]

Are the connectors and ec5 connection and r u also using the solder-less splice connections? Do the current connections get hot?

[@midwestern_rc]

They get a little warm but it’s not bad

[@Sw20boosted]

Stock servo is definitely the first upgrade I’d recommend, it’s weak-slow-junk, and it runs 8.4 out of the box, bearings be the next due to mine blew in the diffs and destroyed the housings which Amain took care of me being right after I bought it but I did upgrade to fast eddy bearings and aluminum housings by FID, pinion gears should be high quality-had one I just got off the shelf at the hobby store and was eaten up pretty bad due to the flex is in the motor mounts which would be another good upgrade to do sooner than later, and last make sure everything is tight and has lock tight-read that before I bought mine and sure enough a lot of things were loose. But I love mine and had it for 2 years or so now. Anyone scared to break a big car but wants a big car could go with a SCX6, fun rock crawler but with the 2 speed trans it’s pretty quick too on 4S. 😁

[@midwestern_rc]

Yeah I sold my DBXLE since this video. Got into RC carpet racing and don’t do videos on it cuz that shit suckssss the fun out of it haha. I always wanted to try my SCX6 on 4S tho. You never had any issues!?

[@Sw20boosted]

@@midwestern_rc nope, none at all. I actually run 2 4s batteries for better weight distribution and longer run time. 2 spektrum 4s 100c 5000mah.

[@barbedwirerat661]

Great video. As much as I enjoy seeing the full Vivaton/Max4/12S builds of the DBXL-E 2.0, I've been wondering how much performance and reliability you can get out of a modest build that gets it into the ballpark of fun without having to double or triple the investment into this buggy! Seems like you have found that point, or at least a good starting point. For me 1/5, in the form of a Baja 5B Flux, has been more of a novelty to take out for a drive once in a while, not so much an everyday get crazy kind of bash machine. Been thinking about getting a DBXL-E 2.0 for some time now, but it is still going to be quite an expense, even with just modest upgrades, for another novelty RC. I saw your comment that you already moved-on from this RC...so maybe that 16 tooth wasn't quite enough after-all!

[@midwestern_rc]

Yeah I don’t miss it either. It was kinda fun for a bit. Then just lost interest and didn’t wanna pour a ton of money in it

[@4D_Recovery]

Hi check out tye Rovan D5 and the 30 degree north buggy

[@3SonsRC]

​​@@midwestern_rcso you got rid of the Dbxle? Why? What do you enjoy more now on a big scale RC?

[@midwestern_rc]

@@3SonsRC they get boring really quick, expensive when they break or need an upgrade, and feel very slow after a few packs. The new Kraton 8S EXB is very solid right out of the box

[@3SonsRC]

@@midwestern_rc I hear ya, I already have a Electric Losi 5ive T, Outcast and Kraton 8s + Xmaxx M2Cified all with Upgraded Electricronics, so I got the dbxle by cheap trade and has new parts to go in, DGI Bulkheads, Diff cases, Turnbuckles, 1&2" Extenders and Braces.... All new and ready to go in. I have my other rigs for big Sender stuff.... Was figuring Dbxle for Better land control (longer than Kraton) big rips, and mild sends.... Under 100ft, have other rigs for big stuff. If I see absolutely no purpose and enjoyment for what I want it to be, then I can sell it for cash or use that for a 5ive B Electric build.... Or just say.... Goodbye because I have plenty of RC

[@sagnhill]

I just ordered one and get it May 22. I like your upgrades and may look into the turnbuckles and yes, Vitavon is expensive, but it looks cool. ;) I spent 2300 bucks on my SCX6 Honcho with Vitavon. It just works. I may stick another grand into this new LOSI but Im not going overboard like I did with the SCX6. I really like the carbon fiber body panels from Vitavon for LOSI.

[@aviatoFPV]

damn I used to own the v1, now I got a baja 5b and want this one again as my next car :')

[@midwestern_rc]

Idk man since I’ve made this video I’ve sold it. It got boring really fast and if I wanted to make it faster and more durable I would have had to spend a ton of money on it

[@aviatoFPV]

hmm I've been looking at the Vesla as well, that seems to be a cool car too and something else entirely!@@midwestern_rc

[@michaellui74]

Great video 👍👍losi dbxle or traxx x Max ?? Thank you

[@midwestern_rc]

Neither. Get an XRT and a chassis brace for it.

[@Blueknight1960]

I've had my dbxl-e 2.0 for 2 years now. In my experience, the stock steering servo is trash, it lasted maybe a week. I now have an agfrc 78 kg servo at 8.4v with a claimed torque of 1084 oz-in. The front, middle and rear diffs are all aluminum, the rear stock plastic one go boom. I have the 2" dgi extenders. The original esc was trash from the factory, never did work right. I've had the hobbywing max 5, it quit after 8 mos. Then I got the xlx2, the 1st one lasted less than a battery pack. The negative wire came loose from the pcb board on the esc. The 2nd one did the exact same thing. All warranty claims and the 3rd one, I cut a small piece of cardboard with a tight fit behind the wires on the esc and then zip tied it around the fan shroud. That was a little over a year ago and the 3rd xlx2 has held up. But I have gone through a few motors. I've also done other upgrades. This is a heavy rc and if you want performance out of it, you're going to have to be willing to spend the money. If you want just ho hum performance, stay stock. I'm thinking about getting the max 4 and motor combo and gear it up and see if I can hit 80-90 mph with it. I've only managed 65-70 mph so far. Although I have seen videos of it, I will tell you from personal experience, this 5th scale rc will take your feet out from under you if you happen to hit your self.

[@DestroyersRC]

Lol It’s taken me off my feet as well

[@omega_rc]

I thing it’s a decent rig with the right upgrades just can’t bash it like the Xmaxx or O8S 🤙🤙🤙

[@midwestern_rc]

Yeah it’s fun in its own way. Also having the right terrain and area can be a huge factor for enjoyment I should’ve mentioned that in the video. I used to sneak into this construction site with this thing and MAN was it a riot

[@kennyirish5021]

I've been wondering if they were still around would the losi 5B been a better option than DBXl? Seems so to me just not sure. I think Horizon ;) will bring back the 5B. Also looking at the MCD rr5 because in the end I want something durable.

[@midwestern_rc]

I haven’t driven a 5B but I gotta say at this point I rarely use my DBXLE. As I really only have grass. Hard to find sand or loose dirt by me if I had that I would really enjoy the DBXLE more. Or if I had a place to race ot

[@Blueknight1960]

@@midwestern_rc Yea, you need a lot of room if you plan to drive it fast and that's the reason I haven't driven mine in over 8 mos. I haven't lost interest in the buggy, I've lost interest in the places I have to run it.

[@johnmiller4553]

🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙

[@teemuhall]

What did you do to get your batteries to fit?

[@midwestern_rc]

Direct fit with the two batteries i mentioned in the video. No mods needed.

[@onemansvideos2134]

Wish they would release a exb style roller of the dbxle

[@midwestern_rc]

They likely won’t as the DBXLE is a Losi and not an Arrma.

[@onemansvideos2134]

@@midwestern_rc but you know what u mean like a roller with aluminum upgrades

[@midwestern_rc]

Yeah I hear ya. Maybe in the future they will do something like that 😬

[@brocwavra8813]

so would you prefer electric to gas? Just curious as I just ordered a gas one but can change my order..

[@midwestern_rc]

Electric is much faster. Easier to maintain. Gas is cool but if you want speed and ease of maintenance electric is the way to go

[@brocwavra8813]

@@midwestern_rc Thank you... Appreciate the response. I am just going to stick to my order. Don't want to cancel it at this point. Gas looks pretty fun too.....

[@brocwavra8813]

@@midwestern_rc Actually after reading all of th QC issues with the Desert Buggy 2.0 I might change my order to the 5ive truck. Same motor and seems to be built better from all of the reviews? Your take ?

[@michielpoortvliet3003]

I think its a work of art this car, however if i would buy this then i would have to sell my mojave 6s, my xmaxx and his son the maxx. In order to keep it affordable. But i i rather have a few cars then one main car...ugh and i also like the baby mojave 4s...this hobby its great but damn so many awesome rigs nowadays

[@10krms54]

On on the fance on these or new traxxas xtr these never go below 1100 also hoping they will

[@midwestern_rc]

These are on sale right now for 1000. But I think you would be happier with the XRT to be honest. More durable and cheaper to upgrade and fix.

[@tamartopuria6907]

Thank you

[@midwestern_rc]

You're welcome

[@tamartopuria6907]

I have XMAX, I put Leopard870 Max5ESC, it has a problem with reverse, sometimes I have to push few time to make it reverse, do you know if it is a common problem or it is because of ESC? Thanks.

[@midwestern_rc]

@@tamartopuria6907 could be anything. ESC. Transmitter. Reciever. Motor wires. Bullet connectors.

[@tamartopuria6907]

@@midwestern_rc Thanks man, I’ll consider. I took it to stores twice and they couldn’t figure it out.

[@tamartopuria6907]

@@midwestern_rc Sorry to bother you again. What Transmitter do u recommend?

[@Vladle2099]

I been running mine on 3s for 5 years now and no broken parts.

[@midwestern_rc]

You run it on 3S? Like 2 3S batteries you mean so 6S?

[@Vladle2099]

@@midwestern_rc I run 8s. That was meant to be sarcastic. You can run 3s and it will be a slug.

[@luvdacurvyones]

AAHHHH, but can you compare it to a Grasshopper?

[@midwestern_rc]

Lmao

[@i4nic256]

Love the stance on that Losi. Would those 8S Outcast wheels fit with the 1" extender or is 2" extenders a must for those wheels. Cheers

[@midwestern_rc]

I’m not one hundred percent sure. But I am honestly like 90% sure that the 1” is all you need. It won’t be as wide but it also won’t be as prone to breaking shit since the 2” adds more leverage for shit to get broken

[@i4nic256]

@@midwestern_rc Thanks bud, that makes sense. Just curious, why did you get rid of your Losi?

[@midwestern_rc]

@@i4nic256 honestly it really just came down to the thing was boring on grass. It was a RIOT to drive in dirt. But being in the Midwest I basically only have grass to use it on. I did have a bad ass construction site to tear it up with all my bashers. But they finished the construction and now it’s a car dealership. Same reason I sold my SBR.

[@i4nic256]

@@midwestern_rc I’m in the same predicament, mostly grass fields. I’m glad I asked because I was gonna buy the Losi for grass. What do you think would be better for racing around on grass?

[@midwestern_rc]

@@i4nic256 dude Kraton 8S no doubt. I would say the XRT but I had a lot of issues with parts breaking and then waiting 4-6 WEEKS for the parts to be back in stock. Plus the new Kraton 8S V2 is a dope machine! They need a few tweaks out of the box but mild bashing they can handle a lot. Medium bashing if you land well you won’t have much issues. Hardcore bashing you might need to upgrade the chassis

[@jaybomb5022]

Be careful, Hobbywing states in the manual that running HV batteries at full charge on their 8S esc can cause damage. I went with the G2 HV Max5 for headroom as its 12S.

[@midwestern_rc]

Interesting. Yeah I always just charged these as LiPos never LiHv. And that ESC did end up burning up LOL

[@jaybomb5022]

@@midwestern_rc I wish I would've seen your video sooner lol. You should get a good ISDT charger and charge them to 4.35v per cell. This was you get the actual benefit from running HV cells.

[@midwestern_rc]

Yeah I just got into RC racing and they all mainly use 2S LiHv shorty LiPos and I am now charging them the right way to 4.35v per cell and it’s a big difference as to when I charge them to 4.2. I’ve sold all my 8S rigs it would’ve been nice to know at that time though for sure

[@BigBadBobsRC]

What's the best all rounder out of the Losi / XRT and Xmaxx ???

[@midwestern_rc]

XRT for sure man.

[@herrnachti8847]

How much does a tire like this weigh?

[@midwestern_rc]

Idk

[@rcadventures4342]

Couldn’t find a coupon on Amazon…

[@midwestern_rc]

When I posted this the sale was still active. Unfortunately it ended on January 31st. But these have been on sale 3x that I know of within the last year so keep an eye out. Usually horizon hobby will email first about the sale

[@rcadventures4342]

@@midwestern_rc awesome thanks…

[@_savageasfck_]

This or first gen?

[@midwestern_rc]

This for sure

[@cbounchanh]

I'm stuck between this and the xrt 8s......money isn't an issue for me but it's my first rc car I want to just drive it fast going off road

[@midwestern_rc]

I would go with the XRT man. Cheaper to fix. More durable. Fun factor is better box stock. Great aftermarket support.

[@S4MICHURC]

wheels arrma?

[@midwestern_rc]

Yes outcast 8S

[@crispysocksss]

I hate how losi discontinue cars and parts support for them after u spent so much

[@midwestern_rc]

On the DBXLE?

[@95mushroom]

What does everyone think of the DBXL-E 2.0 vs. an e- converted 5ive T? Money isn't an issue, but in the end, a converted 5ive T would be about double the price for a used slider plus all the parts. You could nearly have a full built DBXL for the same money. I got completely out of the hobby in 2016 when I quit racing 1/8th scales. Now I want something cool to bring to the park/beach/etc with me. I'm a racer at heart, so I don't 'hard bash' at all. Big jumps, sure, but like they won't be cartwheeling thru a rock pit.

[@midwestern_rc]

Dude an electric 5T would be SICK! I think I would like that better than the DBXLE

[@3SonsRC]

Plus you can get a 30 DEGREE NORTH Roller v2 for wayyyyy cheaper and 5mm 7075 chassis that the Losi DOES NOT HAVE.... Thats what I did! Love it, I have a Dbxle as well. So far I like the 30 degree N better but it's proper set up, we will see once my Dbxle is done.... I'm thinking my 30 N will still be better BUT different

[@wesleylaflin857]

Crap, I’ll have 3 grand in one of these getting it the way I want it, VESLA 5 all the way

[@midwestern_rc]

Yeah I’ve sold mine since making this video. The vesla seems super legit though

[@angelteamnolimit624]

I can get one for 700 in a box nee so debating on pulling the trigger since they 1200 new

[@midwestern_rc]

Full disclosure I just sold mine a few days ago. When they break its so expensive to fix and honestly the speed and acceleration isn’t there for me and I don’t wanna throw 500+$ into it just so I can go faster (which you will for sure need to drop another 400-700$ in drivetrain upgrades to be able to handle the power). Also I really only have grass near me. I had one dirt construction site I could goto and it was SO much more fun in dirt but they finished construction and I can’t find another dirt spot.

[@angelteamnolimit624]

@@midwestern_rc well thats a no for me then for that get a 8s outcast and have as much fun as u want thanks for the advice

[@midwestern_rc]

@@angelteamnolimit624 love my 8S outcast. I’ve got a bunch of videos on that thing. SO much more fun.