LOSING our biggest Salvage Haul to date! - Group Salvage Gameplay - Star Citizen 3.18

[@dutchguysgaming2008]

We have a fix! The person that has the mining ship must also own the cargo ship. Its fine if you have your crew mine/do other tasks in your ship while you transport it to sell. So in short both ships must be owned by the person that is going to sell the loot. Although its bugged we still managed to make millions with salvage alone. With a crew of 4 we managed to make 2.8 million per crew member starting patch day.

[@All4Chaos151]

have the person who does the scrapen unload the vulture to the hauler seems to work as well as long as the one who scraps puts it on to the other cargo grid seems to be fine

[@lovelypuff9]

We did the same but the third level of boxes in the Freelancer Max we used wouldn't count. So I'm not sure if CIG wants us to stack boxes higher than 2 levels

[@hookin1]

That's what we do. Spawn 2 vultures with 2 guys each, Then pull a cargo ship and 2 members. The caterpillar works the best. Then the ship's owner sells the cargo

[@alexdresden6776]

I was just thinking of this. So if you do the same process, have 1 person bring out 2 of their own vultures and a transport ship. Let the teammates pilot the vultures and the 1 person pilots the transport to site and then do the scrapping.

[@chiefusnoldsalt]

Sorry, but that is not a fix. We were using more than 1 Vulture. So with you proposed fix we would need multiple cargo ships.

[@ksuil]

FYI, 14:14 I found if you change the setting "Pilot - Weapons- Manual Gimbal Mode - Default Slaving" to VJoy, it will use the joysticks/mouse to control the gimbal instead of headtracking. Huge improvement for me in the vulture and ROC.

[@jaknazryth2488]

Your patience and good humor is on full display while helping CIG to refine the game play by demonstrating obvious problems in group game play. I know many gamers who would simply rage quite. I've never seen you or any of your team rage quit. You understand that all of us are game testers and we are helping CIG to develop the best interactive game ever attempted. This takes time and patience, and a bit of professionalism from those of us who chose to become play testers. Keep up the great work!

[@Tushonka-Ted]

If stolen cargo is working how it is, they should add some type of whitelist (Even if you're in a party) where you can give someone perms to move cargo etc. Other then that great video and once I can get my hands on a vulture I'm gonna try it out and hopefully have a great time!

[@Hippida]

If not automatic, being in a party should make cargo salvaged or otherwise be ffa within said group. Oddly, when our group salvaged yesterday, we had no such issues with 'stolen' cargo

[@kamperromito8542]

these cinematic shots are incredible, ive yet to see any other youtuber come close to this level

[@Citizen_Kate]

wow thank you kamperromito that is a huge compliment! :)

[@All4Chaos151]

​​@@Citizen_Kate have who's scraping put it on the cargo hauler ur usen seems to bypass the stolen cargo. Seems to be iffy as to when that works as well

[@chriskelvin248]

Does a game capture recording always playback this perfectly, buttery smooth? My $5k new gaming PC is only displaying @ 1080p (I play on a large old tv) and never looks so silky smooth as I’m playing it. I have a decent NYC tristate area 1g Verizon connection.

[@jamesshook3395]

I was in a party that was able to group play salvage with no problems. The vulture I was in had a dedicated crew member loading the boxes from my ship to a hercules with no one else touching the boxes. For the other vulture, the pilot was getting out of his seat to move his boxes to the hercules, with no one else touching the boxes. In both cases the person on the vulture was moving boxes from the vulture, they never left the ship. The key may be only having people on board the vulture generating the boxes and also moving them to the cargo ship and placing them on the pad but without leaving the vulture.

[@nachtmacher6237]

I realy like these salvage gameplay videos 🚀

[@Citizen_Kate]

thank you for watching nachtmacher! :)

[@GreasedScotsman]

Katie, it was YOUR vulture that scraped the material, therefore YOU are the owner of the RMC. YOU need to spawn a cargo ship and perform the sale. Who stacks the boxes is irrelevant. Party membership is irrelevant. Owner of ship who did the scrape needs to be the owner of the cargo transport and perform the sale. There are still bugs (it is SC, after all), but this has been the best way so far that avoids most problems. Best of luck on your next run! Great video as always.

[@da7thguest]

Your videos convinced me in getting a Vulture myself and I was a bit more lucky with the 30k protection actually working. The box issue makes it a bit more complicated for group action, but also adds a special touch of logistics to the operation. you have to organize the crates and which cargo belongs to whom. I guess a caterpillar is perfect for that, everyone gets his own section to fill. A bit annoying at the end when everyone has to bring his own cargo ship to sell it for full price, but with the piracy ratio going up at those no questions terminals always worth the time to be able to sell in a safezone with a stowed ship ^^

[@mndeg]

they'll probably fix it soon (tm)

[@da7thguest]

its as designed, creator of boxes is owner of boxes. what we need is a "fix" for the party and org system so we can transfer ownership of such stuff

[@brad6637]

@@da7thguest or a rule such as "allow said person to sell on behalf of me"

[@Eden_North]

A buddy of mine said "You have to be able to laugh when things go wrong. Joker will be having fun, while Batman rage quits over the same issue." Love your videos, always entertaining. You really do a great job in your editing and story telling. Thanks.

[@Sigma90]

I ran into a similar situation today when I tried out my Vulture for the first time. Teamed up with a returning player in a Cutlass. It was just a small session to try things out, so we didn't even fill it up completely when we called it quits. Upon trying to sell, only one box was working for him. We were completely dumbfounded at first ("why is it red? It is under 'In demand' after all") but quickly figured out that it must be an ownership issue. So he pulled up his Cuttie again, while I got in my 400i and we landed on a remote sky platform just outside August Dunlow Spaceport where we transferred all boxes from his ship to mine and then I was able to sell all of them without any problem. We both changed roles during the whole thing, so each of us was stacking boxes and salvaging at one point, but the consistent factor seemed to be ship ownership. The boxes were created on my Vulture, so we could only sell them from one of my ships. Except for that one outlier of which I have no idea what we might have done for that one to transfer ownership as intended.

[@TheWaldleufer]

The way you are telling a little story with these is so enjoyable!

[@Hippida]

Me and 2 new friends decided to harvest that same ship. Spending 2-3h we stripped the ship, and filled a Max and the reclaimer we brought. We made it to 200m of NB space port, and both ships exploded in short order. What should have been at least 300k a person, ended up with a total of 100k which I gave to the poorest member of our crew. It was great fun to multicrew that job, but such a sad ending. You can understand your adventure felt just the same. I hope for the future, we can fly salvaged cargo without feeling the scare of riding a live bomb

[@omg-vert]

When I do mining I use gimbaled mode and I just temporarily disable head tracking while using the mining laser. Default key is Numpad "/". Works really well as you are not fighting head/eye tracking constantly. When done just hit "/" again and you are good to go. Sometimes you have to toggle G a couple times to get the gimbals to work properly but once you do it a few times your muscle memory kicks in.

[@indigenous.rabbit2877]

With the reclaimer mission from the beginning you can do some fun stuff when other players or AI attack you while you are inside. The ship itself is disabled and cockpit etc have been physically blocked off, the turret station is still accessible and functional. I had it one time where I got a crimestat while doing the mission (don't remember how exactly) and fought of 3 player ships trying to collect my bounty using the turrets, blew up two of them after which the third blew me up using missiles out of gun range, but a very fun encounter nonetheless.

[@Aquatic2005]

I'm glad to know I'm not alone in the struggle with the bugs. Good content either way. Can't wait till things are more stable for your live aboard series on the Reclaimer. I loved the Corsair series.

[@NGlanister2]

In the Star Citizen cargo refactor AMA they did say that any time a box is transfer to someone else it is marked as stolen. I have done a couple of group salvage in my org but all the vultures and cargo ship have to all be owned by the same person to get around the stolen cargo. I will spawn my two Vultures and have someone else fly then I will fly out in a cargo ship. We have not had any boxes marked as stolen the couple times we have done that.

[@snaggletoof1927]

That must have been so stressful hearing/seeing both ships blow up like that. I can't imagine. Well I sort of can. Similar thing has happened to myself and some friends. But still. No one likes seeing all their time and effort being wiped away like that. I hope your next salvage run more than makes up for this one. Thanks for sharing your experience with us!

[@RaysGuide]

What I have found in my test is that if you are party member with the owner of the salvage ship it works as long as it is unclaimed salvage. If the salvaged ship was owned by somebody else then it is always stolen

[@oliverankersen]

The background music really makes the mood of your videos. Love them!

[@SternLX]

They really need to add some kind of UI element that lets you transfer ownership of items that are placed on another players ship. Something that would let you view the items in a players cargo hold(with Permission by being a Team member) from a screen in the ship so you can mark items as being transferred to that ship owner.

[@harbringerf9416]

A fantastic inspirational video Kate. I am glad you had a great time. The joy in your voice is contagious.

[@WarEagle77]

The same thing happened to me! I loaded a Max with RMC. On the last box my Freelancer Max exploded and I lost hours worth of work. It's good to see I'm not the only one who this has happened too. Hopefully after 3.18.1 it will be more stable.

[@tmtcschannel]

Same happened to me also and caught on my stream, lost 3 days of Quant refined materials over the week lost 3 full Cutties and sold nothing at all. i feel your pain, sorry to you and your crew

[@rooster1012]

If you get the can't sell bug because your cargo isn't showing in your cargo bay try landing your ship outside of the "Commons" dome and walk inside and sell as storing your ship seems to cause to many problems.

[@ptjenl1]

I was thinking about the mining head issue. (That it switches back to the sinche) When you switch them in the ship. So make the abrade the primary it doesn't bother you anymore. Or remove the sinch at all.

[@Sphinx40]

Great video as always Katie. Everyone else seems to have the stolen cargo issue well covered, so I'll put my thoughts to the scraping itself forward. I think the richness of the hull as you mentioned may be intended to be based on the thickness of the armor as you point out the claws are extremely rich and that would make sense to me as they are meant to be able to cut ships up.

[@operationorigami8962]

I discovered a bug where positioning your beam into the mouth of the reclaimer claw can sometimes provide infinite RCM. You won't have to move the beam, it will just fill up box after box after box.

[@captain_metcy9988]

My theory is that having this cargo marked as stolen is on purpose because it's makes sense if the ship being salvaged is designed for a specific mission activity. Therefore, acting as a deterrent to prevent more problems with the mission for the time being even if it is completed. Again, it's just a theory. Great video overall!

[@RobinHartJones]

Owning both the vulture and the hauler *should* work but it is still bugged. I solo salvaged then moved my cargo to my own MSR that I had parked outside the station. When I took the MSR to the TDD, about 25% was marked as stolen. Nobody else was involved at any point and the crates were all snapped to the MSR grid. The only thing I can think of that would make 25% different is that some got bashed around a bit while being stacked on the Vulture or MSR and some were not placed straight onto the MSR grid first when brought over but stacked soon after.

[@shrillyvr3270]

Well, i see kate fell for the stolen cargo issue, was curious if it was just a 30k cause 30k protection is broken. But as many others said, the cargo has to be sold by the same person who owns the salvage ship that processed the crate. therefor the cargo ship should also be owned by same person. This was talked about and questioned alot before the release of 3.18, if i recall, it was discussed before or during wave 1 ptu. But i hope CIG can fix it to where cargo doesnt count as stolen for party members

[@SONYUSR]

I could feel the tension of solo clearing that reclaimer. Also ai m50s are Notoriously kamikaze prone... 😂

[@John_Krone]

Music and narration plus storytelling is on point!

[@7MPhonemicEnglish]

Questions for CIG: How is ownership established to begin with? Does cargo belong to the owner of the ship that initially salvages it? Does moving cargo to a ship not owned by the initial owner immediately flag it stolen? Moving cargo to a different ship not owned by the initial salvager but owned by a player in a friends list should cancel the stolen flag unless the initial salvager declares it stolen.

[@MikeRice]

We were scrapping too, and filled a Freelancer Max. So yea, was only able to sell 6 crates on a full load, then when summoned the ship exploded in the hanger... so yea ... it was close to 1Mil lost in credits. From now on we are out of Grim Hex selling there... because they don't care if your group sells "stolen" cargo.

[@goantasebastian2584]

I wanna see a compilation of bugs encountered during the salvage videos, should be an hour worth of content

[@PristienVanDiesel]

I never eat, I just Drink the yellow bottles of Cruz that drink sort both out, got them in my back pack and in me ships. Love your Vids🤘

[@metatron05]

maybe next patch u could try the Hull, it could be that the Hull doesnt explode because its not "inside" the ship. But I don't know

[@Shaftoe76]

I could watch these all day long omg, well done!

[@jimc7022]

Seems like there needs to be a lot more stability before group salvage game play is worth it. Thanks for testing this all out for us.

[@DrMallory]

BTW the boxes fit through the freelancers max doors :) so 12scu more to store in the second storagedepartmend :)

[@gallipschitz7954]

Happened to me too :( By the way, if you want to EVA forward faster, use the tractor beam on a "heavy" object, like a ship or a large panel. But be careful not to hit your head :P

[@cotetoctavian642]

Hi, don’t know if anyone said it before me. To solve the problem of the stolen cargo, you need to do this. Even if you are in a party the person that dose the salvaging needs to pull the cargo in to space then the person with the cargo ship can load the cargo from space to their ship. This solves the stolen cargo. Try this next time.

[@cotetoctavian642]

Tried this, doesn’t work. Did another test with the vulture and a cargo ship owned by the sam player. And it work if the owner unloads and loads the cargo. If any other player loads is stolen cargo. They should sort this out.

[@firstone2917]

Great Video Katie , damn shame about the loss of the ship's and cargo . hopefully this issue will not take too long to fix in the future .

[@mzmagister]

We had a full load of stolen goods after 2 hours of salvaging. So yesterday I decided to salvage alone. Filled 23 boxes in my vulture, but the ship wasnt recognized as landed in Orison. I had to retrieve my ship again - and ofc it was empty. I might just take a break from salvaging for now.

[@UmbraWolf0]

We had a reclaimer soft death while moving boxes, luckily we were able to save most of the boxes

[@deadattheboxoffice]

Explosions and stolen cargo aside, it seems like the salvaging portion would go faster if you could use that captured Reclaimer … to salvage that captured Reclaimer. Recursive Reclaimering FTW! 😁

[@1gkn1ght]

I've had my freelancer explode in the same way. Also, CIG closed two of the bug reports I contributed to about the stolen cargo issue. According to them, there is no bug and it's working as intended.

[@DawnstealerGaming]

They really need to make it that if you’re partied up, everything collected is community so that stolen thing goes away

[@Kamikatze108]

I can really relax watching your videos. Always cool stories 👍

[@ZuilzonDTD]

I'm with you on the thirst hunger meter, there isn't any urgency until it's low so there's no need to top it off everytime it pops up!!! (Likelihood of death hard reseting it aside xD)

[@mathieuu1906]

i didn't knew this type of mission exist they look amazing !

[@spydirhsd]

3.18.1 will hopefully be a better environment to earn in. I've been grinding away and barely able to keep ahead of glitches and bugs just to make enough to live on.

[@icarusdoe6209]

if ti helps at all.. ive noticed that for me personally, using tractor beam to enter and exit ships makes things a lot smoother and less likely to trip fall stumble tumble etc.. hope it helps anyone who hasnt tried it yet.. best wishes o7

[@ReinQuest]

My Connie blew up like that too. 18 is just fubar.

[@lord17c]

amazing camera work as always. Loving the videos

[@TobiasHunt]

Noooo! How you kept your cool is amazing... I'd have been raging. Still, you had a good time with a good bunch. :D

[@HitomiOokami]

Am loving these vids, I really wanna try some salvage myself, debating melting a few LTI tokens so I can do a CCU. I do wish CIG hadn't limited the cargo grid so tight on the Vulture, like everyone is trying to use as much space as possible anyways.. just let us have the full back as a snap grid. I know the counter argument is risk/reward risking the lose rattly cargo blowing you up for the extra $ per full hual.. but it still makes more sense to me to allow the full back have a snap grid if pretty much everyone doing salvaging is trying to use it like that anyway.

[@gman2x]

I'm farely certain the owner of the vulture needs to also be the owner of the cargo ship. Should prevent the stolen goods issue 👍

[@andyandreson3989]

A definite work in progress. Party members should be able to move and sell without it being stolen at TDD’s. Hopefully we’ll get it clarified and straightened out.

[@TairnKA]

I've been working on having a crate with food water, med pen and other items on every one of my ships that has room, despite having items in the vehicles inventory. You need to be careful not to box yourself in. ;-D

[@knots83]

thank for the video. the camera angles are awesome

[@sillothian4618]

Great video as always. There is so much salvage to be had in the verse now as thanks to PES there are wrecks and abandoned ships everywhere!

[@Hopdvil]

We were able to use two reclaimers last night and only had a small portion of red boxes. Still no idea what causes them to be red. Theoretically Reclaimers shouldn’t have any red boxes.

[@drophammer4164]

I had this exact same issue last night. The only solution I've found is that I provide both the Vulture and Cargo hauler.

[@claverdiere91]

To fix cargo from the vulture not appearing at the terminal, the internal vulture dispenser must be empty

[@thehoshgames]

Added our info to STARC-65005 as we run this and other scenarios for vulture to cargo ship. The odd part is the one to three scu that show not stolen when the rest of the loads do. Garbage ship cleanup not working great in the 3.18.1 PTU for New Babbage and Port Tressler.

[@andrewcoulthard-clark]

After watching these, I keep imagining what it'll be like salvaging or mining when we have Idris or Kraken...doh, can't wait!

[@shaneduc]

First time??? I have lost Mill's in one load. I find the Salvage fun. Thanks for the video's.

[@Citizen_Kate]

Oh most definitely - we're all PVPers so salvage is our first foray into anytihng non-combat related

[@shaneduc]

@@Citizen_Kate I learned the hard way the saying "Don't Haul What You Can't Afford to Lose" I'm not big into PVP my self. I do a bit of everything.

[@acehole727]

The only way to avoid the RMC from showing up as stolen is the cargo ship that holds the RMC has to be owned by the same person that owns the ship that Harvested the RMC.

[@NiemandenInteressierts]

The criterias are as follows: The person who owns the box has to move it into another players ship. If somone grabs it from your cargo hold, the wares get marked as stolen.

[@RobinHartJones]

But Katie moved every crate from her own ship to the Freelancer. It did not work.

[@nathanoudshoorn6620]

I am not certain if anyone thought of this before, but how about dumping the cargo into space and letting the owner of the cargo ship then tractor it in? I am assuming that that would count as lost and found instead of stolen cargo. Not able to play myself to test this theory.

[@Thomas-sv6jr]

I'm curious if the game is tracking ownership of cargo, if you could sign it over to your hauler, almost like FedEx. Might even be able to eventually assign liability, chain of possession to catch skimmers or who has to pay for losses

[@chawkes70]

We had a Caterpillar explode hauling cargo. Also a vulture went boom for no reason I have reported it but it depends on if anyone contributes...... By the way I love the music your using.

[@SpaceMike3]

just started watching this episode and already so glad you brought up the stolen cargo problem. We know devs watch these so I hope this pushes them closer to fixing it. now shh I'm watching the rest

[@calpin_dk]

Noooo! Unlucky salvage crew… Hopefully these issues will be fixed soon. Awesome video series (again) :).

[@CarlitoTries]

Use Hull-A Katie. It's much faster to move cargo around.

[@The_Opinion_of_Matt]

I think that stolen cargo is just the way the server interprets who generated the cargo vs. who is selling the cargo. It may be inconsistent because of server health. CIG may be able to fix this by using code that says party members can't steal from each other, although I'm sure it isn't that simple. Hopefully it is sorted for 3.18.1 and if not that then 3.19.

[@echelonguardcorp1425]

Idk if u have tried this but the owner spawns both ships and u fly the cargo ship to sell out. Might work but this is also why CIG needs to come out with the fleet hangers

[@Canadain69Bacon]

around mic L1 where it can reclaimer can spawn ive been doing the mission and seen 6 reclamiers from passed missions

[@jossschubert]

The criteria for stolen good is in regard to the ship owner. If you own the vulture and create cargo that cargo is tagged to you. If you need to move it to and cargo ship, the ships needs to be under the same owner, So person A owns both the Vulture and the freelancer. Issue being if you have multiple vultures owned by different people then you are sad out of luck as owner B also needs to own a cargo. The Solution to this being person A needs to have a vulture and in best case a catterpillar as well for a proper no issue cargo transfer. Therefore you need 1 fleet owner.

[@jossschubert]

Also since the cargo is tagged to the person who created the salvage they also must be the one to SELL that cargo otheriwse you get a futher deduction. I belive the fix for this is that the cargo but be allowed shared owership of those in the party while salvaging but of course having the game recognise that will be tough and will have to see what decition CIG will take in this matter.

[@bluemedic57]

The way I understand "stolen" cargo is based on ownership of the ships. For example, player 1 would need to use a salvage ship and cargo ship that THEY own. If player 2 puts cargo from their ship on player 1s ship, that will count as stolen goods, if player 1 sells it. The game is thinking that player 1 took cargo from player 2, there for "stolen". At least that's my understanding. It might have to come down to using a caterpillar as main storage, and each player salvaging gets a designated bay or two. Then once done for the day, the other players swap to a cargo ship THEY own and move their cargo to their respective ships. Would take more work/time but that should solve the issue. At least that's my theory.

[@minicute2234]

21:06 stolen cargo: cargo moved from one ship to another. maybe if both cargo ship and salvage ship is registered under the same person then it might not count as stolen cargo. never had a problem with cargo when I solo reclaimer

[@Flores_blizzy]

If you salvage a Idris you can get 250+ scu of rmc and found that the owner of the vulture needs to be the owner of the cargo ship

[@subtleblaze1402]

You should make use of lean when boarding. Q and E make life easier

[@Citizen_Kate]

does it really? I'll give that a go next time thanks for the tip :)

[@subtleblaze1402]

@@Citizen_Kate allows you to just barely peek corners. Makes you harder to hit.

[@logicme847]

Very courageous actions with the current state of the game and some pretty sweet gameplay. Inspiring work 👍 Keep it going ✌

[@ReinQuest]

We’ve had it work and not work. One try we had the owner of vulture and hauler be the same. That’s been the best luck so far.

[@thatrandomguycommenting1261]

I had 290 scu of salvage in my reclaimer the other night. 30k ship was back in my terminal when I logged back in, cargo was empty. 10/10

[@mithra4580]

I had the same issue, but with a trading ship. I went and pulled the ship, got into the cargo bay and watched it refill my cargo hold, 1 SCU box at a time. Then I stored it and was able to sell them!

[@djg3n3s1s]

Yeah we went through the stolen cargo thing with a Freelancer and it showing as stolen. To fix this I took a page out of your book, bring dragonfly, drop off Vulture at salvage, take dragonfly back and get my MSR. This seems to have addressed it, but I have to fly the MSR back and sell it.

[@GUNNER67akaKelt]

They should make it, if you're all in a party together, it's not stolen.

[@firebird2914]

I've seen that Black Kite several times. Now I know what it is. :)

[@offgrid1461]

Great stuff Katie!

[@DismayingHades6]

i stored my connie only with 26 boxes of RMC at Orison, went to go sale "huh no cargo" goes back to the terminals and my ship was "destroyed" even tho i stored it, and when i took my other ship out of the hangar all my cargo was in the hangar just chilling there, i had to go to bed or i would have tried to get it but also the chances of me getting that hangar is low when there's like 21 hangars at Orison :(

[@Merciful_Angel]

Stocking up on food and drink before you leave? * laughs in C8R *

[@ptjenl1]

I think I lost about a mln on unexpected things. However so far snapping the cargo to the grid is very solid for me. Only once it delodged. To bad you have such bad luck with the free lancer series. I thought the fl max would be great for smaller salvage teams. But then we also have the corsair to work with. Love your vid's!

[@quasistellar]

That freelancer had to have exploded due to boxes not being snapped to the grid. I noticed you guys are pretty fast and loose with placing crates in the cargo haulers. I would definitely not be just yeeting them randomly onto the grid and then moving them again. I organize mine as I move them and I never have issues.

[@MrCanadianhero]

i have seen that the owner of the ship has to put the cargo on the ship only and then anyone once on the ship can add it to the cargo grid. but ive only heard that so i dont actually know

[@CyrusKazan]

Hopefully we can get clarification from CIG on how this is supposed to work, so we can provide proper feedback. Can't suggest changes or report problems if the intent isn't known in the first place 😅

[@Nommie_Noms]

Thank you for the awesome video, Hopefully the stolen cargo is corrected soon and I would also like to see something done about the cargo collisions like the one at the end of the video but I suppose that is what happens when objects are moveable, Also because you mentioned it... You should eat something haha.

[@tgsphantom]

I solo'd 432 SCU in my Cat of salvage. Bed Logged to hop servers with a buddy got 20k entity 30k error. Got in about 4 days later and they had done that soft wipe where everyones ships was reset back to the homeworld. I lost all 432scu of Salvage.