Lost Bean Bag Surfboard Review

[@JonWickBoomStik]

Great and honest review as always Rob. I especially like how you go through the different types of fins that you tried and what was successful and why a lot of people that review surfboards don't really go into the fence at UPS as much it seems more all about the board and not necessarily the setup and I agree with some of the other comments about providing some surfing videos I'm not the greatest surf or either just an old guy in his mid-forties learning to surf.

[@lawson45uk]

Thanks. Yeah I think a lot of people have moved to be doing things that benefit them or keep their sponsors happy to be honest. That's probably how the game is when it's your bread and butter unfortunately. I haven't even monetized my channel and never had anything cheap free or discounted so it's literally just my opinion. I don't claim to be right or wrong. Just honest about how I found it 👍😉

[@joeroche552]

Loving the channel mate, just started surfing at the ripe ol’age of 34 and I like your no shite style. I’m learning a lot from you

[@lawson45uk]

Hi Joe. Thanks for the comments :-) Never too old mate 34 is still young as anyways :-p Nearly 10 years less than me ;-). Glad you like the content. Did you have a look back at the board selection guide you might enjoy that and there are some guides on the different fin set ups in the archive too :-) kzbin.info/www/bejne/o4bNip2No9uHgbc .. What are you learning on? Inspite of all the exciting boards you could be riding I would really recommend sticking to the same board for the first year unless you find your progressing insanely quickly.. I wouldn't recommend going to anything but a mini mal or big Hybrid for the first 6-12months you will really progress a lot more quickly on that type of board. Shorter boards are just going to be very frustrating till you master the basics. Once you are catching the clean part of the wave like 75% of the time and are able to reliably track across the wave face pump and do a turn and a cutback then your probably ready to move on . There are some great technique vidoes on youtube too ... Happy to have you in community Joe. Enjoy the ride :-)

[@joeroche552]

Cheers mate, well I’ve been out in Costa Rica for a couple of months surfing every day on a 7’2 che mini mal (but with a point and a thruster set up like a huge shortboard) which I’ve sold to come home. So been looking for boards when I’m home (how I came across your channel) probably end up with a second hand min mal/groveller (think I’m using the term right) but been looking at modern lovechild or lost bean bag or similar in an ideal world. I’m slowly making my way though the past content for sure, keep up the good work and thanks. I’m happy to stay on a ‘learner’ size board no rush for a short board here tho there are some mighty nice twins out there

[@lawson45uk]

joe roche ah mate. Costa Rika 👍how cool is that for a place to go at the stage of getting into surfing. Yeah nice work mate the lovechild is one of was actually going to recommend to you that would be a great board to start you off sort of thing if you got a decent size you could still keep in your collection for when it's small as you progress .. sounds like you will advance really quickly anyways if your getting a good spell of quality waves in Costa Rika that's going to turbo your progression. 👍🤙

[@lawson45uk]

joe roche and lol give you a yeah and you will likely be a board adidct by the sounds of it 👍😉 yeah once you have been at it a while it's nice to have a wee quiver. A fish will always have a place for sure. Enjoy Coata Rika. You will be spoilt with good waves there 🤙

[@joeroche552]

@@lawson45uk hey buddy i dont suppose you know much about o'shea boards? i've seen a decent deal on a used 6'8 epoxy hybrid thruster

[@brba1325]

Just found one. And I have two sets of the AMT with trailers. Can't wait to try it. You could try some side bites, for quad rears.

[@lawson45uk]

Yeeeow. Th bean bag "and still undefeated groveller of the slop" 🤣🤣 enjoy. Yeah tried quad rears. Side bites etc split keels are my usual go to but these just seems to work nicely in this board for some reason

[@brba1325]

@@lawson45uk will try. I actually also have two sets of the AMT w/ trailer. I wonder if it also works with the FCS2 MR Twin w/ trailer?

[@lawson45uk]

@@brba1325 Yup MR work good too AMT just a little more nimble. Think I ran MR and Two small rear quads for a while too the AMT just seemed to be the best balance between loosest and fast but tracky cheers

[@brba1325]

Just surfed it with quad controllers. NO DRIVE. Gonna try the AMT with quad rears.

[@brba1325]

I stand corrected. The Bean Bag surfs good with quad controllers. It just needs cleaner conditions. And flatter faced crumbly waves. No bigger thand stomach high. Once it gets steep and punchy, I think another board is required.

[@youdigsurf]

Insteresting fin setup, that the second time i hear twin stabiliser used as a quad, in fcs sometime you can find xsmall quad rear. For groveling im lookin for 6'0 catchsurf log vol is crazy , if you got it can you review it ? You are right about groveler i dont find pj groovle this much.

[@lawson45uk]

Youdig surf yeah it took a bit of arriving at that fin set up and not all of them feel particularly good to be fair. Usually the split keel is enough for me but the AM seems to just balance out the drive looseness and flow really nicely. I don't generally find 2+1s big enough then for whatever reason 2+2 is usualy too much. It wasn't too bad with the small carver rears either if it were someone a bit bigger still. I usually find the split keel hard to beat so was kinda gutted to have to mess about more this thing actually turned great with split keels I just found the drive not always there with the split keel but that is just been fussy to be fair. Ha ha nice. People love foamies here. Nearly bought an OE one must but they're always nearly the price of a second hand poly board. One of the guys even as a 9 foot foamy 😛 far out think I need some sponsorship and a camera man if im gonna make new content often enough 🤣

[@youdigsurf]

@@lawson45uk wow i just tried the shapers dvs quad keel today on my puddle jumper they are sick ! More sick then the nexus quad, you should give it a go.Im pretty sure they will work on this board too. 🤙 Stay stoked.

[@StandUpPaddleboardNHWolfeboro]

5'11 beanbag @ 45ltrs or 6'3 rnf retro @ 45ltrs What one would u suggest for maximum projection in knee high junk

[@lawson45uk]

Hi hard to say just on pure projection but the bean bag is definitely a more grovelly board and better at those tiny junky waves. It will flow in the pocket and dance around nicely. The RNF had more rocker and less width front and back so prefers a little more wave. Bean bag is the best grovel board I have had and the original sweet potato was also great. Cheers.

[@seamonkey2641]

Loving the updated reviews! I am wondering if you might be able to give me some advice. So, I am looking at a bottom end board for surfing when it is basically flat -- ankle to shin high. For a while I have been dragging my paddle board to the beach when its nearly flat to catch unbroken waves and glide down the line onto the sand. It's fun but I have basically no control because of the size of the board. Do you think an oversized Bean Bag would work in those conditions and still allow me to have some control (bottom turn or a little cut back) or should I just go the more traditional route and get a longboard? I weigh 175 lbs (80 kg) and these are the two boards I am looking at: 1. The largest Bean Bag available in the Lib-Tech technology at 5'10 and 41.5 liters. OR 2. The Lib-Tech Pick-Up Stick which is a "short" longboard at 7'6 and 52 liters. I am personally leaning toward the Bean Bag because I think it will surf a little more like my shortboard but realize it might not catch waves quite a well as the longboard. Here's the links to the two boards. Thanks! www.lib-tech.com/lost-freak-flag-bean-bag www.lib-tech.com/pickup-stick-7-6

[@lawson45uk]

Sea Monkey Hey mate. To be honest for us guys around the 80KG mark (and pretty much everyone else that’s not a grommet) I don’t think anything can really replace a longboard in that stuff.. Have a look at the wingnut Noserider see if that interests you.. That’s what I use for that stuff and upto head plus too when I feel like it. Mine will still catch the tiny stuff for me and stull make it fun too at 9’0”.. It’s super flat in the rocker and plenty of volume and glides really nicely. If you really want to go for a bean bag go for a standard one poly or epoxy as it’s wider and higher in volume than the Lib Tech. I know the Lib Tech is awesome and indestructible but in that model it’s actually a slightly different board. Mine is a 6’0” 23” 45 Litres and really catches a lot of waves rides really good like knee to head high. Pick up sticks are also nice but yeah again just getting up and getting going on that tiny stuff is super challenging on anything that’s not a longboard…. Tried most stuff and given up the bean bag is probably the only short board that’s worthy of even considering but I would still go longboard.. That’s just my opinion though. Cheers.

[@seamonkey2641]

@@lawson45uk Thanks!

[@Jon-zr3xq]

@@seamonkey2641 Hey mate, did you ever get the freak flag board in the end...was looking at one of those for knee/thigh to waist high days at my beach break...but I'm 86KG, and looking more at the 5'8 and 38 litres (plus epoxy float of 0.5 litres-ish). There is not too many ride reports on the freak flag...so trying to get all the feedback i can get....the pulled in tail of the freak flag looks a bit better for my situation, as its usually straight hander closeouts, so its not a fat wave

[@garytraill77]

Hi Rob. Where do you get a bean bag in NZ

[@lawson45uk]

Lostsurfboards NZ Tommy Dalton the boardroom Gisborne good guy nice glass jobs 👍

[@garytraill77]

@@lawson45uk Many thanks

[@Surfmus]

I see many videos for shape ideas. I take one from to the other. This one have me on the next shape as I want a fish, real thick board. More than my 6',2" first shape. I will use sort of this nose but with huge swallow tail. Shaping is pending. Too many bills right now.

[@lawson45uk]

Surfmus cool :) sounds like it will look like the vampirate revolution machine that I used to have 👍👍 the bean bag tail shape rides more modern and forgiving though and slides around underfoot really nicely.

[@Surfmus]

@@lawson45uk But I love swallow. I like how snappy they are.

[@Surfandmusicequipmentreviews]

Hey bud Hope you are well ? I’m thinking about getting a 6 foot bean bag as a pure groveller. I currently use a Firewire greedy beaver (6 6) 46.4l In your opinion (as I know you have owned both) does the bean bag paddle as well as a GB?

[@lawson45uk]

Hey mate, not too bad thanks had a bit of an injury so not been surfing or shaping for a bit unfortunately but coming right. How about you, hopefully been getting waves. Bean bag best grovel board ever in my opinion... Especially for average surfers slow waves. My beaver beaver was 6'4" and the bean bag easily paddles batter than that so would likely be similar to the 6'6" anything you may lose from length you get back in the big tail when the waves get under the tail. Big difference will be how it rides. It makes speed a lot more easily than the beaver too. Might not be quite as performance in the back end but would expect it to generate and carry speed a lot better. You can do nice little cut backs and wraps in not much of a wave and it doesn't need to be clean either. I ride mine anything under head high all the way down to when it's junky waist high and I just dont want to take a longboard. Hope that helps . Cheers.

[@Surfandmusicequipmentreviews]

@@lawson45uk cheers bud. Hope you get back in the water and back to shaping soon, mate. Guess I’ll get a bean bag on order then !

[@youdigsurf]

i've asked a well know shop , as you know im looking for a super groveler to replace the puddle jumper in mega small condition, when i told them i wanted a board to manoeuver in less than 1'6 feet they told me that the bean bag was a mini long board basicly and it wasnt the right board to manoeuver in small wave,totaly the contrary of a bunch of review i read . Or it might be why lost tell in the info for this board to reduce the size of the board , on some other site they tell you to ride it as small as you can ( i've seen that a lot with the evo too.) What do you think about that ? do you felt it less manoeuvrable than a puddle jumper or still you can do some stuff better than a mini mal , like snap etc. maybe lost the plank might be even better ?

[@lawson45uk]

Youdig surf mate I absolutely love mine. Unless your super light and a really good surfer and can generate your own speed incredibly well I don't see that there would be anything better than these or potatoes for tiny waves. The puddle jumper just won't glide or catch waves like a bean bag and if you go too small on a bean bag it's not gonna catch and ride the tiny waves as well. Sure it's not a high performance grovellor but not many people have the ability to do high performance surfing in tiny waves anyways. I find that bean bag really good to turn myself and it will have speed and flow where other supposedly grovel boards might struggle to get going at all. The guys in the shop are either really good surfers and or surfing waves with really good shape and push even when it's small or just don't like fat shapes or haven't ridden one I would say. It's definitely more manoeuvrable the a mini Mal or a longboard. When the waves are really poor the bean bag is the only short board I have that I believe allows me to actually do decent turns at all. Just slow everything down a little. I'm not a high performance guy at all and in very small very flat faced waves it's the business as far as I'm concerned 👍

[@lawson45uk]

Youdig surf funny that people say it's a mini longboard like that's a bad thing for tiny waves a mini longboard is exactly what regular guys need and with it running all that Vee etc it's not relying on concaves for lift and manoeuvrability. This is why puddle jumper are more performance than they look but also why there are better options for super low down and dirty sloppy small waves. The super deep double of a baked potato works well too but won't have quite as much glide. A sweet potato is also a good choice if you want to take a bit of nose out of the equation. To me going tiny small on even a bean bag would take it away from being a mega grovel machine too. For tiny waves its crazy flat rocker and maximum surface area all the way.

[@youdigsurf]

@@lawson45uk that funny to see a guy that just made a review and got a libtech pj 3 day ago and you commented on his video lol, i might have found the perfect link between the bean bag and the pj , the plank ! The first grovel board of matt biolos ! There's some impressive video of matt riding it !!! Im looking too at the js black baron as i liked twin and the lost california mr. Im quite curious to hear the review of the other guy about the uberdriver xl ! See you around m8.

[@lawson45uk]

@@youdigsurf Yeah the plank looks prety cool aye. Bit more parallel than eliptical.. Looks a bit more like a lolly pop but wide, flat, big squase tail vee bottom.. some pretty good elements for Grovelling. The Bottom feeder is cool too seen one of those in the flesh and was quite impressed.. Cali twin getting really good reviews. That looks like a lot of fun too :-)

[@craigsteven5343]

What do you do for a job? You spend a lot of money on surf gear! (I’m jealous)

[@lawson45uk]

Craig Steven lol thanks but it's a bit of an addiction. I assure you you wouldn't be jealous of my finances at all 😬😢

[@craigsteven5343]

I understand the addiction.. don’t worry about that.. but my mrs keeps me in line!

[@lawson45uk]

Craig Steven yeah no wife or kids just me so maybe both a blessing and a curse 😛 no body to hold me back but no body to keep me in line either. Be paying for these for a long time unfortunately

[@jimzzful]

Please show your surfing so we have a context for content you put out.

[@lawson45uk]

Hi James.. For one my surfing is pretty lame i'm afraid and I also dont have anyone or any decent equipment to film me unfortunately.

[@youdigsurf]

I was about to ask the same, lame or not it alway good to see how the board work even if you cant max it

[@lawson45uk]

Yeah I wouldn't mind too much if I had someone to film me or one of those tracking cameras but I don't unfortunately. Like you guys are saying at least it would show how the board flows and moves and what speed you get etc.

[@youdigsurf]

@@lawson45uk you could use a mouth mount with a go pro alike , im using a yi action cam the first one.

[@lawson45uk]

@@youdigsurf Yeah I don't really think Go Pro style footage shows the surfing or the board particularly well..Usually just makes me dizzy :-) lol