Lost Media Chronicles Episode 71 - The Adventures of Sonic The Hedgehog (Partially Lost Pilot)

[@dankwaifu2093]

Considering almost none of it exists, I think the real holy grail of Sonic animation is SatAM's lost original intro.

[@AdventureMaster18]

Just wanted to say that production on Satam started before the comic series. In fact the comics were based off the story bible for the TV series. The comic just came out first due to comics being faster to make.

[@shoegazerproductions7706]

You're right. I don't know how I didn't spot that during my research. Here, enjoy having a pinned comment and the upvotes that come with it!

[@AdventureMaster18]

@@shoegazerproductions7706 Thanks! It's fine btw, that's a common misconception anyway. The only reason I know that satam was being made first was that I'm a huge fan of the series and have researched a lot about it. Great video btw.

[@robbiewalker2831]

The comic coming out first before AoStH OR SatAM. No wonder. The characters don't belong to Ken Penders at all (and neither does Ian Flynn)!

[@stoopiosproductions3130]

It appears he meant "heart" and not pinned... Lol

[@daboz8753]

Well that would certainly go further to explain why the comic couldn’t decide what color Sally should be until the cartoon premiered. God the letters Archie used to get about that.

[@Spiggle.]

Eh AOSTH gets too much hate, i guess people are too edgy hence why they keep ranting about SATAM.. AOSTH was fun which is really all it needed to be, maybe some people just didn't like the slapstick i guess.

[@teddybeer6206]

One thing I like about AoSth over SatAM is that Sonic and Tails are the main focus. Tails was barely there in SatAM.

[@brokenumbrella8130]

The pilot looks more game accurate.

[@j_gamer8752]

Look at everything they added, the mean bean continue screen, the first sonic 1 boss, some of the badniks, and etcetra

[@j_gamer8752]

If I missed anything else, add on to my comment.

[@MetroGexual]

@@j_gamer8752 Mean Bean Machine came out after the show. The game over screen is based off of the show

[@j_gamer8752]

@@MetroGexual Ah, it all makes sense now!

[@Tornado1994]

It was planned for NBC on Saturday Mornings. For the 1992-93 Season.

[@Mattrules64]

This scene @5:39 was recreated in Dr Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine's game over screen

[@robinkhlop1977]

Actually the 'Continue' screen.

[@MicahBuzanANIMATION]

I love how the pilot seems to reference the video games much more. And the animation is so smooth.

[@GIJOEFAN-ys8gp]

I would say that AOSTH is the closet to the games out of all the DiC cartoons.

[@SomeRandoo]

The only reason I know this exists is cause of blameitonJorge

[@ElectroBlastLuigi]

@Some Rando I accidentally found this recommended while searching other lost media way before blameitonjorge made a video featuring this pilot.

[@Spinforvon]

Same

[@segamike8250]

I heard rumors that the freedom fighters were supposed to appear in a season 2 episode if a second season got made

[@stephenholloway6893]

Interesting enough DIC was also involved with the Mario series at the time, along with both Sonic shows back then.

[@thewackywarden]

I think the high production values would have helped this show immensely. A lot of the slapstick feels awkward in the series proper due to the weird animation.

[@uberkirbeeh7954]

Adventures is a gold mine for YTPs, that's why I love it

[@majinbuddha5392]

I completely forgot about YTP is that still a thing in 2019?

[@MasterOfKnowledge.]

@@majinbuddha5392 Of course. Still is today in 2020, as well

[@RWSfan2024]

@@MasterOfKnowledge. and today 2021

[@MasterOfKnowledge.]

@@RWSfan2024 Tru

[@ToxPhy]

Pingas

[@TheRealDustinNunn]

Loosely based on the Sonic games or not, I grew up on Adventures of Sonic and Sonic SatAM. I seen a little bit of Sonic Underground, but I wasn't too impressed with it. Underground had WAY too many sing-alongs and I never cared for Garry Chalk as the voice of Dr. Robotnik. Sure, the three cartoons had no connection to one another because each American Sonic the Hedgehog-related cartoon had it's own canon. Me personally, my two favorite voices of Robotnik were the late Long John Baldry and Jim Cummings. Garry Chalk was...meh.

[@KylerFlame]

The pilot was put online in 2009 by Milton Knight, the show's Animator

[@TheDigitalApple]

KylerFlame But it was only half of the pilot

[@duckwindowthatoneguy]

6:58 robotnik was darn *T H I C C*

[@violetthebat8810]

Dark Widow 64 ROBOTHNICC. XD

[@sammyjaohnson5631]

Dummy thicc jesus

[@hitkid2456]

He does an upgraded version of Shin-chan's "ass dance" until the thing explodes.

[@daseal1479]

Wow, this pilot's animation is really boggling my mind, i'm so used ro seeing that "distinctive" AoStH style, lol. This is much closer to SatAM quality.

[@Tornado1994]

That's because the Pilot was meant for Saturday Mornings on NBC for the Fall 1992 Season.

[@shoegazerproductions7706]

Also wanted to mention that I will talk about the Lost Media behind Toy Story's Black Friday cut in the Troubled Production video. I couldn't decide which moniker to put it under. Also there will be a second video on Toy Story 2's troubled production as well.

[@middleofthesphere]

So with toy story 2s troubled deveopment, i am assuming you are gonna cover the infamous moment where Pixar deleted the whole movie, and the movie was saved because of an employee backup?

[@austinj.jenkins2547]

Something cool about this pilot is that parts of it were animated by golden age animator Ed Love

[@FuriousMan226]

Yeah

[@DoraeArtDreams-Aspy]

Ooooh Lost media of Toy Story Black Friday

[@Invidente7]

... Both sonic series are special on their own way since they introduced elements to the Sonic mythos: From then on, Robotnik will always have one or two bumbling sidekicks and the REAL posibility of Sonic starring in dark dramatic stories WHICH did HAD some funny moments. ... Yeah, Satam is a classic and all but Adventures had good episodes too such a time traveling arc where Sonic and robotnik race across time to get those silly chaos emeralds and another one where Sonic must race across mobius to find 4 bombs that robotnik placed all over the planet. Yeah, it DID had intense moments too and funny enough these 2 series were supposed to be IN THE SAME CONTINUITY! That idea sorta carried over to the archie comics series with the first fifty issues being funny before slowly shifting to a more serious tone.

[@alienboy1322]

A very special edition of Sonic Sez: Hey kids, there's this guy named Randy. He makes a series on KZbin called The Lost media Chronicles, and the fact that he gets not enough views and not notice that much, that's no good. So when you watch him be sure to subscribe to his channel and comment on his videos so he be inspired to make more.

[@Toy_story_and_beyond]

SEZ*

[@alienboy1322]

@@Toy_story_and_beyond Fixed it.

[@Bonnerproductions]

Lol

[@hedgethewedge]

The guy who uploaded the pilot was actually Milton Knyte (probably spelled that wrong), who was a core member of the team.

[@ILoveAngelGabby]

ah yes, AoStH... my childhood...

[@ScatterbrainPete]

From what I've heard, the pilot itself was provided by Milton Knight. Also, SatAM premiered in September, not November. Barely two weeks after Adventures (AoStH - Sep. 6, 1993, SatAM - Sep. 18, 1993).

[@Tornado1994]

Satam Debuted SIX Months after AOSTH, NOT a few weeks. Adventures of Sonic The Hedgehog debuted March 15,1993.

[@ScatterbrainPete]

@@Tornado1994 What's your source on that?

[@Tornado1994]

@@ScatterbrainPete AOSTH was originally set for the Fall of 1992 on NBC's Saturday Morning, NBC quit the Saturday Morning business, so DiC Consolidated, cut its budget, developed another Sonic Saturday Morning Cartoon with higher budgets, and relegated Adventures of Sonic The Hedgehog to Weekday Afternoon Syndication. AOSTH debuted on Syndicated Affiliates on Monday March 15,1993 after missing the Fall of '92, Sega of America demanded and insisted it make the Spring 1993 Season to Capitalize on the success of Sonic 2. I FONDLY remember AOSTH premiering right before Spring Break on my Affiliate Paramount 20 KTXH Houston. Sonic 2 was Aggressively advertised during the first handful of AOSTH episodes(SEGA released a Core Bundle SKU packed with Sonic 2), and Tiger Electronics was also heavily advertising the Talkboy(Home Alone 2 was released on Home Video at the time) and Sonic 2 Handheld. This was SPRING 1993. Also keep in mind, the Genesis Box Art Font didn't switch to the Red Stripe Font until the Fall, so Genesis Games still used the Black Grid Boxart design. Sonic Satam was also planned to air exclusively on USA Network Saturday Morning Cartoon Express(SEGA of Japan wanted it on there believing it would have more seasons and consistent production if it were on Basic Cable, ) but Sega of America cut a Deal with ABC against the wishes and requests of SOJ, Satam did NOT premiere until 6 Full Months later on September 18,1993, when the Archie Comic Series was already a few months old and when Sega was planning on promoting the release of Sonic Spinball,Sonic CD and Sonic Chaos. SOJ turned out to be correct though, USA Network had ordered 4 Seasons of Satam, but ABC only ordered Two.

[@BluecoreG]

5:39 Did they reuse this scene in the first episode or few? I remember seeing Robotnik talking to green shaded robots while watching this on Netflix thinking to myself "Oh hey, the game over screen from Mean Bean!"

[@Dasonicspeedster420]

Probably

[@robinkhlop1977]

In 'Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine (for sega genesis)' at the continue screen there was an animation sequence featuring a recreation of a scene from this pilot.

[@jeremiesinnett1521]

5:38 That scene is just like the game over screen from Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine

[@avengersassemble887]

Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog is my favorite Sonic cartoon, I got into the franchise because of it.

[@segamike8250]

Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog was originally ment to be Sonic sat am but with slapstick and goofy humor it was originally going to be the only Sonic show in the year 1993 due to the early comics

[@DrRobotnikPingas]

I'm from germany and 3/4 of the german dub of Aosth is lost.

[@Jaysterrr]

That disagreement thing about whether the sonic show should be dramatic or humorous Isn’t the reason they made two shows

[@ses5736]

Honestly both series are great

[@iampinball3669]

AoStH is already better than SatAm

[@Comrieion]

Adventure is better than SATAM, change my mind

[@k-coolrgs9578]

Adventures of sonic The hedgehog is better that Sonic the Animated series

[@NotaPizzaGRL]

@@k-coolrgs9578 SatAM doesn't hold up and without annotations it's unwatchable. If nothing else at least the people working on AoSTH didn't hate the game's setting and try to change it into something much duller.

[@leatherface9022]

The pilot episode was awesome

[@googleuser2485]

But the pilot of Adventures of Sonic is on KZbin... What was the point of this video?

[@shoegazerproductions7706]

There's a likelihood it's only part of a finished product. There might have been more, or at the very least a version with a full stereo sound mix. Either ways talking about found media is part of the journey of lost media, right? Do you watch my videos solely because I talk about lost stuff, or do you watch them because the story behind them is interesting?

[@googleuser2485]

@@shoegazerproductions7706 ... what

[@jenneacoleman-cubero2365]

Can't wait for the "Troubled Production" episode :) !!

[@georgewilson7432]

"SATAM is regarded as one of the best animated shows ever". In which dimension?

[@moavideogamer8417]

Video games

[@guppiepoweryt9951]

This one. It’s actually really good. Or so I’ve heard.

[@majinbuddha5392]

Not dimension you mean parallel universe :p

[@lpfan4491]

it actually pretty much is tho. at least for videogameadaptations

[@LeoRack]

In our. At least we can say, that Sonic Satam is the best adaptation of Sonic games, arguing with that is useless.

[@jamiewillkner8742]

Was this really originally going to be shown on NBC Saturday Morning in 1992?

[@Tornado1994]

YES. Adventures of Sonic The Hedgehog was planned and developed as a Saturday Morning Cartoon on NBC planned for the Fall of '92. But NBC Dissolved its Saturday Morning Business, so instead, DiC rechanneled its Budget to Satam(USA Network showed interest in buying its Saturday Morning Rights for '93) and decided to cut AOSTH's budget since it was being converted and downgraded to a Weekday Afternoon Syndicated Cartoon. Debuting in Syndication on March 15,1993. Satam was picked up by ABC and debuted 6 months later on September 18th

[@1upplush]

I saw the whole pilot

[@middleofthesphere]

I was confused om this. I always thoutht the episode was found? Didn't know there was missing content.

[@shoegazerproductions7706]

Honestly, we don't really know. It feels unfinished. But there's a likelihood this is all that was made for it.

[@middleofthesphere]

@@shoegazerproductions7706 that would make sense. From what I've seen, alot of pitch pilots are there to just give the general idea of the show, feel, ect. What I was referring to was the stereo audio. I thought the pilot online was the full pilot, but i guess i was wrong. Either way, its still interesting. Although, even if it was animated in the USA i do not think it would have made the show better. Sure, it would have most likely looked better but the jokes and horrible writing (even for a non serious cartoon) would have killed it in my opinion.

[@GaJ42]

Shoegazer Productions I think the pilot remained unfinished and the clips in the show itself are just edited versions of episode.I believe this due to some similarities to the first episode.

[@Tornado1994]

@@shoegazerproductions7706 AOSTH was originally planned for NBC Saturday Morning for the Fall of 1992.

[@raijyn2452]

2:32 YOU KNOW, FOR KIDS!!!

[@Tornado1994]

OP: Adventures of Sonic The Hedgehog debuted on March 15,1993 on Various Syndicated Affiliates. Not September. And it wasn't Weekday Mornings, it was Weekday AFTERNOONS. AOSTH was released for the Spring of 1993 to Capitalize on the Success of Sonic 2. Satam Debuted 6 Months and 3 Days later on September 18,1993 on ABC.

[@jbrtloz9327]

Yas I is real it the original cut of the pilot episode from 1992

[@georgewilson7432]

Yes, look how defeated Nintendo is. Sega, on the other hand, has been creatina nothing but gold since then, and its consola are topping the charts every year. Yeah.

[@shoegazerproductions7706]

"Sega WAS beating Nintendo's ass.." Yes, eventually Nintendo won, but you are aware that at first Sega was giving them a run for their money, right? Genesis at first outsold the SNES before they fucked up. That's what we call a contextualizing introductory statement. Giving my viewers context on what was going on. How we got to here.

[@janetchiles1790]

SONIC: "Adventures of sonic the hedgehog. It's fast and furious. I'm Fast and He's Furious. (PUSHES DR. ROBOTNIK'S HOSPITAL CART) Gotta choose! Betcha can't catch me, (RUNS AWAY AND REVEALS THE SAME TITLE) (At least not until the Fall of '93!)" (coming to fox 39 kids club)

[@AsecasJavi]

The robot speech was in mean bean machine

[@megasonichunterramirez3231]

That sonic in the thumnail do

[@sammyjaohnson5631]

do

[@2011supergamer]

Good video. Something cool I think you should have put in was that the game over screen from Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine is a reference to the meeting scene in this pilot.

[@Tornado1994]

1992. Originally planned for NBC Saturday Morning Lineup. Right before NBC decided to pack it up as a SM Contender.

[@p1000-ratti]

Oh sega kicked nintendo's ass? At the end of the console war, Sega get literally FFAAAAKKTT but Nintendo

[@CrabulousYT]

The video is a "prototype" of sorts of the pilot shown elsewhere. it isnt finished (most likely) due to when it was made.

[@acoolbird3770]

What’s funny is that both Sonic cartoons have some kind of lost media.

[@shadowopsairman1583]

Sonic the Hedgehog is called SatAM by fans, it was never titled that officially.

[@janetchiles1790]

SONIC: "At least not until the Fall of '93!" (only on fox 39 kids club)

[@spongebobisback911]

that's no good

[@Jdoesstuff]

AoStH > SatAM

[@insomniachs7667]

< *

[@davidginyard2308]

I wish that Sonic And Tails had Their Anime back in the 1990s in Japan

[@generalchaos6]

Personally I think... Adventures of sonic the hedgehog > sonic satam

[@Captain_Flood]

Why?

[@generalchaos6]

Edgyface because adventures of sonic the hedgehog knew exactly what it wanted to be, zany, wacky, mindless fun and I respect everyone who worked on the cartoon for that. Whenever sonic tries to be serious or have dramatic scenes...I can’t help but cringe a little inside.

[@kurilrick2207]

@@generalchaos6 "Whenever sonic tries to be serious or have dramatic scenes...I can’t help but cringe a little inside. " This does not mean this animated series is bad. AoSTH is just a big wasting of time with unfunny jokes, outdated 90s humor and broken animation. Sonic Satam is objectively better than AoSTH series because it has an adequate story, better animation, better voice acting and better music. It doesn't matter how you personally dislike the animated series because of more serious story, it's still a better product.

[@generalchaos6]

Raino Rock yeah, but...that’s like...your opinion, man...

[@kurilrick2207]

@@generalchaos6 Well, anything that we write usually is the opinion. Unlesss if you will compare everything I listed from Satam (adequate story, better animation, better voice acting and better music) to AoSTH, you will see that's not just my opinion

[@piggystudios6832]

When amy saw the this video and saw what sonic just kissed a girl amy going to freak out

[@sammyjaohnson5631]

The animation is so much more smooth and bouncey

[@darksepheroth4627]

Why does this have next to no views ?

[@revolutionarymusings3292]

You're like ants at a picnic

[@brandonlogan-v.2579]

He's been going fast for...years

[@MattGDreal]

Why does he swim he cant

[@fleetwoodvo8673]

It IS known how Dvarianos got a hold of it- Milton Knight himself- who worked on the pilot/designed Robotnik for AoSTH, sent it to him. Mr. Knight has a clip of the rough rushes for AoSTH Episode 1 on his KZbin channel with similar VHS distortion.

[@ducksareurlords3782]

Satam Robotnik looks worst than aotsh Robotnik.

[@MasterGamer153]

If you need help finding one part of it it is on Netflix

[@MikeCivilian]

Lost Media Is NO GOOD

[@retroarcadde2128]

There are 65 episodes? I always thought there was 20 (due to netflix only having 20 of the 65 episodes)! I will have to email Netflix about this...

[@sirsesamesalad]

2:12 HAHAHAHAHHAHA dic

[@valenzuelasstudios1838]

How the pilot is better 1. Better animation 2. Better slapstick 3. Jim Cummings is Robitnik I want it find out more about the pilot right now.

[@teddybeer6206]

I prefer Long John Baldry for this version of Robotnik, to be honest.

[@valenzuelasstudios1838]

@@teddybeer6206 yeah, one of my opinions now is very outdated, especially given what's recently shown of Cummings and also just adjusting to many voice tastes I've had

[@teddybeer6206]

@@valenzuelasstudios1838 what's recently shown of Cummings? What do you mean?

[@michaelbadger5780]

WFHL ran AOSTH weekdays, and later, Saturday.

[@michaelbadger5780]

WCCU / WRSP ran it mornings before WFHL.

[@Ryan-bm8lc]

.

[@adammozdzierz1926]

It might, but not by much.

[@20035079]

"it's unknown how he got ahold of it" ??? he literally states that he got it from milton knight himself in the description though...

[@HeadofHoncho]

2:08 DIC

[@nandoelmejor1078]

Pingas usual i see

[@JoshuaGuineaPig]

DIC

[@stargazer_mage]

I just found your channel! It’s dope man keep it up with the good work!

[@PSDUNN]

Otto

[@nicolasd.madsen9317]

I think people just discovered there actually was 3 shows (or I just get the year on the rare show wrong) the showed name is sonic super hedgehog It’s a Russia excuses And only talks Russia It’s a quiz show about sega

[@SHIGUFEVER]

It just irritates me how you say that Sega was "beating Nintendo's ass" when the only successful console Sega ever had was the genesis and even that lost to the Super Nintendo

[@funky9157]

7:53 toys or something eh... hmmm holy moly Shoe's doing a vid on freaky flickers the quest for the golden flicker

[@LuneNova]

5:38 Eggman mean bean machine gameover screen!!!

[@GoogleGradschool]

Like and subbed bruv..good job, great content!!

[@jenneacoleman-cubero2365]

To be honest, I don't think the animation would've made a difference. The deleted animation was good but you'll still hear people saying the show is inferior to SATAM.

[@ClassicSonicSatAm]

That's because Aosth is just a Sonic version of Looney Tunes, *and has a much more simpler story/setting like the actual Genesis games had* as for SatAm, it was a really interesting new take on Sonic, and even had influence on Sonic's would be first 3D games on the 32x and Saturn *Sonic X-treme*

[@Tornado1994]

It wasn't set to debut the same year as SATAM. AOSTH was set for the Fall of 1992. Satam's development started AFTER NBC shelved its Saturday Morning Business.

[@Ryan-bm8lc]

This is the 69th comment, you're welcome.

[@commandoeclipse2698]

Wow, who knew Chills had another account?

[@arcanepool]

there is a sequence in the pilot that has been used in dr. robotnik's mean bean machine in the game over screen

[@ramza7676]

White blurr Speeds by Y E T H

[@vickilong3016]

How did this get on my recommend?

[@PrincessLunafan21]

I think the animation would've helped a lot, but I never heard of the pilot

[@Tornado1994]

AOSTH was initially planned as a Saturday Morning Cartoon for NBC for the Fall of 1992. But NBC dissolved their Saturday Morning Business, so AOSTH was retooled into a Syndicated only Weekday Afternoon Cartoon. Debuting on March 15,1993.

[@Lucariomines1937]

it wasnt completed

[@Corb06_V.2]

Somehow I remember watching an episode similar to that 4 years ago with my friend. Kind of strange.

[@LYB4]

it's kinda similar to episode 1, which DID air, so that may have been what you saw

[@AlexPerrine]

6:14

[@Montythegold]

That's no good

[@GoogleGradschool]

Legend holds- part B to the pilot lays somewhere deep in the hoard of Chris Chan’s house. It’s unknown if it survived the great Kurig fire, but I’d bet it was in a special place, a special fire proof place hmm. No one has been brave enough to challenge the Snorlax that slumbers guarding over the treasure trove. Several original poke-E-mans are rumored to be seen in the area as well, along with hella pogs among which hmmm

[@shoegazerproductions7706]

Speaking of Chris Chan, I wanted to cover him once for the Chronicles, but also didn't want my channel to be associated with that community so I always backed out.

[@nicholastosoni707]

@@shoegazerproductions7706 Probably just as well. There's loads and loads and loads of coverage on YT as it is.

[@phoenixv2460]

Yo mama

[@Bonnerproductions]

Lol

[@NoiseKidd]

Lost Media Wiki disproportionately cares about things with “fandoms” and that have fans that would actually choose to define their thing’s fan base as a “fandom” and think this doesn’t sound dumb.

[@TheBoobTube]

Gotta go fast!