Lost Norwich - Silver Triangle

[@davegoldsmith4020]

Met my future wife when she lived in Gertrude road, we were regulars at the Cygnet, we married in St Mary Magdalen church across the road in 1974. eventually moving into RAF married quarters for the next twenty one years, now live in Sprowston. We went down to the church last year for selfies on our anniversary. Thanks for the video , happy memories

[@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich]

Thanks for those recollections Dave

[@mariuszzaborowski]

Brilliant, it takes a lots of work and many years of irreplaceable experience!!!

[@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich]

Thank you very much Mariusz, that means a lot - especially after I got a rather abusive comment on my Guildhall video this morning. It's great that there are kind people like you to redress the balance!

[@mariuszzaborowski]

@@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich I already live in Norwich for the last 17 years and has always been very curious of all these remains which you so greatly explain in your videos. If you are a Patreon member, I will be be more than happy to donate to your channel. I would not be surprised if the city could help a bit as well. Don't worry, abusive comments only show the level/lack of intelligence of such people. Carry on doing good work for Norwich!

[@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich]

@@mariuszzaborowski I'm not a Patreon member, but thank you for your thoughtfulness. Simply by watching these videos on youtube you are contributing to a fund, through the advertising, which I intend to put towards the replacement of some shabby green plaques that can be seen around the city.

[@DJWerkz]

On the corner of Spencer Street by the entrance to Bull Close School there was a bakers shop that made fresh bread on-site. Our family used to buy our bread from there and it was a heavenly smell when going to school as a very small boy. It now appears to be Pearl Beauty store

[@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich]

Thanks for recalling that. Smells can be so evocative.

[@pmcfarlane7660]

I remember the bakery in the 90s. I used to live just over the road to it in Spencer Street.

[@ncfcgee]

i still even now think of the bakery that used to be there whenever i walk past it

[@keithwinters3031]

Used to live Silver St. Loved walking my dog around the back alleys. Nostalgia...a wonderful thing. Hi from Thailand.

[@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich]

Hi Thailand! Thanks for your comment.

[@rabbitsrule9437]

Can’t believe The Cygnet was knocked down in 2006! Such a nice building.

[@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich]

I think it's always sad to lose attractive historical buildings.

[@Analoguebubblebath89]

I believe this is via my request, thank you again. A marvellous video

[@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich]

Thank you, that's right. I'm glad you enjoyed it.

[@The_Brit_Girls]

This video was packed full of fascinating facts! I really enjoyed finding out about the lost buildings of the past, and seeing the wonderful old photographs. Thank you!

[@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich]

It's a fascinating area.

[@kevintracey4644]

This brought back memories! I got very drunk at The Leopard pub back in 1978 (I was only 16!) just before I joined the RAF!

[@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich]

Great story....I'm surprised you remember it!

[@TheSkyenet]

You are correct about the Silver stores shop, it used to be the old Betamax rental shop 👍 As kids we would go there and get free movie posters.

[@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich]

Thanks very much for confirming that 👍

[@FinePineNorwichCarpenter]

Fenomenal! Now im even more proud of living in silver triangle

[@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich]

And so you should be! Thanks for commenting 👍

[@dvdvnr]

Another great video, John! I used to live on Albany Road - maybe that triangle, whose borders are denoted by Waterloo, Magpie and Magdalen Roads ought be called the bronze triangle! One of the interesting things around that general area is spotting the places where newer houses have been built to replace those destroyed in the Baedeker bombings of 1942. You can spot these on the southern side of Albany Road itself - the same bomb also destroyed a lot of the northern side of Shipstone Road, which was rebuilt as flats. Nearby about halfway up Patterson Road you can see the newer builds on both sides of the road. The Silver triangle seems to escaped most of the devastation though the Norwich bomb map has a few tags in the upper part of the triangle and I suspect the newer builds on Branford Road and Northcote Road might have been the result of that.

[@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich]

Thanks David, that's very interesting. I think I'll do a video about the blitz and bomb damage next year to tie in with the 80th year.

[@cbarton64]

Another fantastic video John! I really do look forward to them. Thank you for sharing such great insight 😀

[@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich]

Thanks Chris for such a kind comment. I try!

[@martinthirkettle599]

Another really interesting insight into a lesser known part of the city. All the more interesting for me as my parents lived on Knowsley Road when I was born. Often frequent The Leopard pub now after Norwich City’s evening games. Some cracking pubs in the area now including The Stanley. 👍

[@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich]

Thanks Martin. I found it a very enlightening video to make.

[@5thandoverland]

Very nicely put together. Beautiful buildings

[@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich]

Thank you, it's a lovely area. 👍

[@adrianrutterford762]

Thanks John. Another fascinating video. Keep up the good work!

[@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich]

Thanks Adrian!

[@pmcfarlane7660]

Great video, John. I used to live in Spencer Street, and had a few good nights in the Artichoke and Marlborough.

[@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich]

Thank you. When I made that film, walking round the area, I thought it looked a good area to live.

[@pmcfarlane7660]

@@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich It was a nice area to live in. The people were very friendly. I enjoyed my time there. It was easy to walk in to the city centre, and it wasn't far from the ring road when driving. I'm not sure if it's still there but I used to shop at PJ'S on the corner of Beaconsfield Road and Spencer Street.

[@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich]

@@pmcfarlane7660 thank you, it seemed to have a good community feel.

[@stefkuna]

Just subscribed to your channel - I've lived in Norwich since around 1970 and thought I knew a bit about it but evidently not. Love the quick-fire format of your videos that keep the momentum going but give me the choice to pause on a picture if I want to.

[@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich]

Thanks for your comment, that's exactly what I hope to achieve!

[@hannahbrowse330]

me and my partner owned silver stores and we purchased it in 1996 when the previous owner ( Terry ) renamed it from betashak to movieshak as vhs had won the battle and we renamed it to silver stores upon the rental industry in decline.

[@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich]

Thank you, that's a great reply 👍

[@Andyjzr]

Absolutely love these vid's.

[@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich]

Thank you!

[@James47298]

Another great vid, keep them coming

[@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich]

Thanks James

[@IamaDutch-Kiwi]

Ooooh I spotted something that brought back memories at 00:58. Next to the derelict tram- is that an Austin A50? or Austin Somerset? Right moving on...what I love about these videos is knowing that some of the more iconic and beautiful buildings have been lovingly retained. These buildings are landmarks and rightly deserve their place in every town. Like loving distant relatives - who remind us of who we are and where we belong. Nice one John! 💖🇳🇿🙋‍♀🇳🇱

[@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich]

Thank you Anita, that's a lovely comment. I'm afraid I'm no expert on cars, so I can't help you with that!

[@wendylong8912]

great video. my partner owns The Artichoke and we're always looking for interesting snippets of its history

[@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich]

Great, thanks, hope it's of interest.

[@traceyclarke5475]

Wow this is brilliant. I recognise every thing mentioned. I drive up silver road a lot as I live near there. X

[@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich]

Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed it!

[@patrickmilbank4105]

I really love these videos John keep them coming 👍

[@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich]

Thanks Patrick, I intend to!

[@JohnandCaraRetiredTravellers]

Incredible video! Your research is very much appreciated! Thank you! ~Cara 😊

[@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich]

Thank you Cara, glad you enjoyed it.

[@sensiblename295]

W Chittock operated for about ten years. He was nephew or cousins to the Chittock brothers Arthur and William whose shoe business eventually settled on top of Silver Road. They lived next door to each other for a while on Magdalen Road, next door to the Stanley.

[@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich]

Thanks for that information, I found it very difficult to find out about W Chittock.

[@johnnygriff]

In 1903, 8 houses on Beaconsfield Road were sold by Circus owner George Gilbert. Presumably this was to pay for the Hippodrome Circus in Great Yarmouth which he built at the same time.

[@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich]

Thanks John, for adding those details.

[@geoffpoole483]

Such a lot to take in! Something that caught my eye was the ghost sign (?) which mentioned the business was a tea dealer. I don't know this part of the city at all but I'll be doing some exploring myself, thanks to this video.

[@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich]

Thank you, there are one or two ghost signs in this general area.

[@julianwalters5135]

Brilliant video any chance of one of the history of the Heartsease

[@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich]

Thanks for commenting. I'll see if I can find sufficient material to do one - in the meantime, although not specifically about the Heartsease, this gives some of its history. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gYbFfmCqnKx3gNk

[@dayziecakes]

Fascinating John! I grew up on Elm Grove Lane so this area is really familiar to me - I really enjoyed this one! Question for you- have you heard of the Philadelphia Adult School? It was on Philadelpia Lane - there was an alleyway from Penn Grove that ran past it. But I can't find any records of it on Google at all! Thanks!

[@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich]

Thank you Daisy, I'm glad you enjoyed it! I haven't heard of that school, and I know the area has changed dramatically. You could look at the website oldmapsonline.org to see if that helps to identify it. I'd like to do a video on schools at some point.

[@dayziecakes]

@@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich Wow, thanks John - I found it in under a minute!

[@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich]

@@dayziecakes brilliant, that's a good website!

[@nicksrestos8505]

Another great video. My Mum and Dad were married at St. Mary’s in 1963. Would you happen to know of Jack Chippendale and the location of his boat shop? He was a long time boat builder in Norwich. I’m a shipwright myself and learned the trade from a fellow who apprenticed under him in the 80’s.

[@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich]

I'm afraid I don't know the answer to that, but this might be of interest to you. www.yachtsandyachting.co.uk/articles/jack-chippendale-1924-2012/

[@nicksrestos8505]

@@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich thnx for the link, very interesting. It was serendipitous that I started working for this boat shop here in B.C. Canada and after a few months the owner and I were chatting away and he tells he went to a boat building school in Lowestoft and then on to Norwich to apprentice. What a surprise when I told him I was born in Norwich and immigrated to Canada as a child. Sorry for the ramble.

[@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich]

@@nicksrestos8505 not at all, a nice ramble!

[@andrewbeach6079]

You are correct, Silver Stores was once Betashack, that's around 40yrs ago.

[@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich]

Thanks very much for confirming that. 40 years? Crikey!

[@traceyculyer5811]

Thank you John always interesting as usual. Hope you don't mind I have a question. Do you Know the designer of Cavell House, Stannard Place, St Crispins Road. Norwich. Regards T.

[@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich]

I don't, I'm afraid, but I'll see what I can find out.

[@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich]

I'm afraid I can find no information about the designer of this building. Sorry.

[@traceyculyer5811]

I just thought you might know. Thank you John@@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich

[@ianwilliams2620]

Always wanted to know how Shipstone Rd got its name.

[@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich]

I'm afraid I have no idea, nothing comes up with a google. Typically roads within an area might have themed names, so Heath, Clarke, Shipstone and others may have connections in some way.

[@garypampling818]

Was mike motor parts !!

[@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich]

where was that?

[@simongee8928]

In the early 60s, ehind the smaller police station were what I believe were stables. Whether they were connected to the police station or the Artichoke, I don't know.

[@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich]

Thanks Simon, it's always good to have extra details added 👍

[@IDreamOfGaming]

Spent a few times in the Cygnet.

[@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich]

from various comments here and on facebook it seems quite a lot of people did!

[@Polysixchick]

the church of st mary magdelen is identical to st barnabas church on Russell St in Norwich

[@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich]

That's interesting. I hadn't realised that churches had been built to a template, but why not!

[@Polysixchick]

​@@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich I have a feeling they may have been designed by the same person who built Wensum View, Lakenham, George White and other school and institutional buildings around Norwich but it is a guess

[@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich]

@@Polysixchick thanks, yes that's quite likely I guess. Certainly with schools, there was an education architect.

[@kilgoretrout413]

Vastly superior to the Golden Triangle 😉

[@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich]

I couldn't possibly comment! But I thoroughly enjoyed my walk around there, and hope the video conveys that!

[@The_Brit_Girls]

First to like and comment - woo hoo!!

[@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich]

Congratulations!

[@justindrake4600]

You seem to have left a radio playing in the background. Is there any particular reason for this ... ? Most distracting. And very annoying.

[@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich]

Thanks for your comment. Over time, I've learnt that most of my viewers would prefer not to have the music, and it certainly makes my life easier with all the volume changes required. So nowadays I tend to exclude music on more recent videos.

[@justindrake4600]

@@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich The real question is : who told you it's a good idea to stick background noise onto your videos? Second - why did you ever believe them?

[@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich]

@@justindrake4600 I have to confess it was my own idea. But it was far more difficult than I anticipated to get it right. So it's dropped now.

[@justindrake4600]

@@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich Well - to be slightly pedantic - I don't think it was your idea. You just copied what everyone else. Now we have the scourge of music every damn where - videos, restaurants, et al. Ask people why they do it, and they just look confused ....

[@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich]

@@justindrake4600 fair enough, I take your point. Others have expressed similar views, and I accept the points made.

[@melparkerson768]

I live there , no such thing as the Silver triangle .

[@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich]

Would you like to explain a little more?