Love Island, Real Housewives, And The Fake Authenticity Of Pop Culture

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Chelsea sits down with Maia aka Broey Deschanel to talk about all things movies, reality TV, pop culture, and the fake authenticity of our current era.
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[@BroeyDeschanel]

Thanks so much for having me on! Currently binging the early seasons of RHOBH on your recommendation :-)

[@selalewis9189]

Enjoy Brandi Granville. That’s all I have to say.

[@tcwaxwing]

Something (American audiences in particular) overlook or just don't know about is how very upper class acting became in Britain. It's a lark, a profession that's cerebral but quirky and doesn't get your hands dirty. Obviously there are exceptions, but the private school club to acting pipeline runs deep. Feels a lot more nepo than a boom-mic operator's kid catching a break lol.

[@ellencoleman4604]

Really? I don't think that's true at all unless you're only counting certain people as 'real actors'. There's definitely a huge problem with the Oxbridge acting network dominating stages / BBC high drama / famous comedians, but even then not all of them will have come from upper class backgrounds. Also if anything I'd say the majority of UK actors/actresses are middle class. Also, when you say Britain do you mean Britain or England? There's a few Welsh actors and Scottish actors I can think of that I'm pretty sure don't come from upper class backgrounds e.g. Michael Sheen, Luke Evans, James McAvoy, David Tennant etc. Plus are you really telling me all the actors/actresses on EastEnder's are faking the accent? Again, are you not counting soap opera actors as 'real actors'? Also I assume your 'it's a lark' comment is meant to be facetious, because if not that's an incredibly reductive and disrespectful view of the performing arts. Acting, music, art in general is a great way for people who are failed by the education system to make a living if those professions were only respected more at the early stages. Not everyone has to study STEM to be worth something! As a final note, I personally think the Tory Government's drastic funding cuts is a sign that the upper class are very much against arts professions, if anything.

[@rocketsocks]

It's true in the US as well but not quite as obvious. From TV to film to music to stage acting, it's so much harder for the non-wealthy and the non-connected to break into the industry. A lot of that is driven by the crisis of affordability and cost of living, and it's absolutely affected the whole landscape of artistic expression.

[@kms50138]

I agree with this, as a classically trained actor, the people around me were all upper class people just with “working class” accents. Apart from me (middle class, able to pay for my fees and auditions because I didn’t have to pay much in rent to my parents) and I couldn’t afford to move to London or get the train and took a lift at 5am to the edge of London were my dad worked and worked both weekend days to pay the tube fare. none of my classmates could fathom that I couldn’t afford £40 to have a lie in. Not as a one-off, not as a routine. Im not saying they were hard working and dedicated, they really were! But they were also the only ones able to pay for the auditions, fees, previous workshops, coaching etc to get in and stay in. But they all had regional accents giving the illusion of inclusivity.

[@kms50138]

@@ellencoleman4604 I think you’d be really surprised to know the class background of many actors on East Enders. Regional accents dont define class imo. My reading of the cutting of arts support by the tories is that they don’t see it as a profession, or something that should be supported - ie you can do it if you’re rich enough not to need an income.

[@belorama8]

​@@ellencoleman4604 I Don't think L G is saying that the profession is a 'Lark' or 'cerebral and quirky' because they themselves are disrespecting the field. They're saying how the profession is treated as a frivolous pursuit unless your family already has some financial maneuverability. Conservatives cutting support for the arts directly competes with people who aren't already rich being able to get jobs in the arts. Them cutting support for the arts nearly guarantees the only people who end up with artistic careers being rich people.

[@historynerd37]

With regard to the comment about anybody else would be thanking their parents in awards speeches (in other industries), historically, people just did what their parents did. That's how we got a lot of last names, it's why we have businesses that are ___ & Son, like, it's not weird to do what your parents do. Hollywood is one of those places where they have to pretend like everyone who's at the top got there because of their unique scrappy genius, rather than admitting that for some families, acting (or writing/producing/directing) is the family business.

[@CARATMom]

Drew Barrymore is like a fifth generation Nepo baby. The concept really has been around forever. Gywenth Paltrow, Angelica Houston, Tracey Ellis Ross, Jennifer Aniston and Mira Sorvino, and Angelina Jolie are all nepo babies. 😊 Edit: don’t forget, Micheal Douglas and Jeff Bridges are “nepo babies” and they are in their 70’s

[@ManUntdForever]

Tony Goldwyn, especially. His ancestors literally built Hollywood.

[@emiliabolsas]

In the last year, I have had the opportunity to get greater insight into how certain organizations operate. And it is shocking to me that a lot of organizational awards (“so-and-so of the year,” etc.) are often used to recognize people who aren’t being promoted or selected for advancement. All these years, I was mystified how the dumbest/worst people got recognized for honors when, in fact, they are consolation prizes (“Oh, John got that award because they screwed him over for getting promoted.”). Likewise, some people get promoted because they do an unenviable job a la the mafia. Example: Someone I know was made a Director at my former company after he spent a year cutting a division and getting rid of a bunch of positions at the direction of the company. Less than a year later, his job was eliminated. No one was sorry to see the henchman go.

[@albamadero7207]

Yeap, I know a girl who was awarded "woman in technology 2023" by her company and was fired a week later!!!!

[@leslievanhouten]

Josh Brolin’s dad was James Brolin (an actor) and his step mom was Barbara Streisand (whom I hope you have heard of)

[@starbrite526]

Bringing back to RHOBH, James Brolin was in film, The Car, with Kim and Kyle Richards playing his daughters.

[@calipigeon]

I clicked this so fast not even knowing Broey would be on. TFD is really getting all my favorite KZbinrs to collab and I love it

[@mhawang8204]

Same.

[@chiclesdefueg]

wow, I really love both of your channels and your content :)) Thanks for this episode!

[@kateshapcott1785]

I wasn’t expecting a Toronto accent to be roasted here but I am so happy it is

[@mhawang8204]

Damn…the world really has it against Torontonians 😂

[@sarahwatts7152]

One of my favorite guilty pleasure movies: Earth Girls are Easy. Just watch it.

[@briana9168]

Seasons 1-3 of RHOBH was the golden era! Must-watch seasons for sure!

[@anastasiageorge1279]

yes and season 4-6 close out that era very well

[@stalesunday]

not wanting to rob lisa rinna of being organically shitty... lol! you are truly so hilarious. i feel like andy cohen should have you co-host bravo reunions.

[@brucebanksshow]

Congrats on One Million!

[@natachagordon5089]

Johnny Depp was put on by his best friend, Nicolas Cage (part of the Coppola Dynasty)- working class, yes, but he was "connected."

[@ashleyperez8284]

Both channels are amazing

[@bogwoman]

YAYYYY the favessss 😍

[@georgia34279]

brooey deschanel!! she's my fave omg

[@mmps18]

I LOVE BROEY SO MUCH

[@kimroberts8113]

A24 is making some of the most compelling and variety of films, and now with Everything, Everywhere All at Once receiving awards, hopefully more audiences will check out their body of work.

[@maggierobertson2962]

A24 is one of my favorite production companies. I've watched things I had no interest in purely because they made.

[@elliothennessy8360]

Was the format change visual only? Because if it wasn’t, I totally didn’t notice anything changed.

[@kimroberts8113]

I agree with Chelsea with Real Housewives early seasons.. felt more authentic (if reality TV can be) but more recent years, perhaps even the last decade, has been a formula of a formula of a formula! Which begins to feels like a cheap reproduction…. Salt Lake City feels especially staged (“Students of the craft.” Spot on!)

[@lisbetsoda4874]

It has always been one. I watched all of 1/2 episode in the beginning and it was awful. If it has gone downhill from there I am surprised it is still on.

[@rollerpig9619]

chelsea you look just stunning! better than ever

[@RobynCoburn]

Evidently did not watch the 2023 Oscars. Just about every winner, including Jamie Leigh Curtis, thanked or dedicated their award to their parents.

[@khazermashkes2316]

My understanding is that this was filmed prior to the Oscar’s.

[@supernova622]

Probably not, given that the Oscars were less than 24 hours ago. This isn't a livestream, after all

[@RobynCoburn]

@@supernova622 thanks. I thought it was live. I did notice that it seemed to be a theme though.

[@RobynCoburn]

I mean at the Oscars.

[@rentedthriftedreal]

@@RobynCoburn LOL these are highly produced, scripted videos.

[@brandylewis9005]

Maia is soooo CUUUUUTE 🥰

[@freshfreshfreshfresh]

47:39 What movie is she talking about?

[@Libusheful]

The Menu

[@rafaelpolancomorales]

TFC x BeKindRewind

[@ellacreative2842]

CGI in film, is still filmmaking…

[@CaraMarie13]

I remember years ago, I saw a Colombian novela called por que Diablo and the detection of poverty and how it was trapping young teens in a life of crime was both so real and mystical I don't want to see it twice for fear of ruining the memory. The actors, while very attractive, look like any kid I could have walked by in my environment. I saw parts of the Telemundo remake called Mas sabe el Diablo and it just looked completely produced. And all gosh, you just mentioned Lily Rose Depp. This women is going to be in Nosferatu with my horror king, Bill Skasgard (of the obviously prestigious Skasgard's). Am so pissed, no vampire will want to drain me dry.

[@cutekitten12]

Omg i thought broey was her real name, i watch her KZbin too😱

[@Erinba]

This is intended to be constructive criticism but I think Americans need to reign in their use of the word ‘like’. It is superfluous and distracting. Besides that good topic and I love your take on everything Chelsea!

[@alyssahardbarger7973]

on nepo babies not earning their positions, the ones who can't acknowledge it may really think they have earned their spot

[@tacrewgirl]

Yes, RHOSLC is too staged and over the top. I couldn't get past a few episodes of the first season.

[@LauraSomeNumber]

All the Jamaicans I have heard speak about Chet Hanks have been fine about it. Also Patois is a language not an accent.

[@extraordinarilyme]

Eating 🥴

[@JD-fr8sd]

Tried to get through this but I couldn't deal with lack of rhythm from the guest speaker. I thought something was wrong with my internet connection or headphones. Then I heard Chelsea speaking and everything sounded just fine.

[@Abc-wp6mp]

The level of judgement you allow yourselves to pass regarding Lily Rose Depp is baffling...

[@wollywocket7205]

Johnny depp is innocent? wym "he's an awful person" ....

[@neleawest7196]

i was kinda wondering the same

[@AstraeaAntiope]

He was not innocent. He was found guilty of abuse, he just won a defamation case.

[@LightningLemur]

Even if he’s innocent of the specifics in the op ed, he still joked about raping a corpse, smashed up hotel rooms, called the mother of his children a c*nt, slept with an underage girl while in his 20s, and is a known nightmare for production staff to work with. Not a great dude regardless of trial outcome.

[@paillette2010]

“He self funded it himself. “ ok. I don’t know where you find your guests, but it’s a short yardstick.

[@thefrancophilereader8943]

My thought exactly. How does a 17 year old self fund a film? Fastfood money would certainly not be enough.

[@supernova622]

I can't imagine being so critical of someone for making a minor grammatical slip during an unscripted conversation

[@thefrancophilereader8943]

@@supernova622 The issue is not the grammar. The issue is that a 17 year old would not reasonably have the capital to self fund a film. His parent probably helped him quite a bit.

[@Libusheful]

​@@thefrancophilereader8943 I thought the same 🤨 but I checked some interview with the guy and...well, he probably got a camera as a present at some point and that was all the funding he needed 😅 His name is Ethan Eng and the movie is Therapy Dogs, shooted with his school friends. I am curious to watch it too.

[@supernova622]

@@thefrancophilereader8943 my reading of OP comment is a criticism of the phrasing, since they used quotes and did not make any mention of the credulity of the statement but rather the quality of the guest

[@samanthaball5980]

Yesssss Showgirls. THRUST IT THRUST IT THRUST IT!!!!!