Love, The Fourth Dimension, Parmenides, and More...

"That which brings a true and lasting realization is your own understanding, your own experience as a result of your own investigation and of your own experimentation. That's the only thing. Otherwise, you cannot go to the truth by proxy. You have to be there. You cannot send your lawyer!"
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0:52 What decides when grace comes into our life?
6:10 How to have trust in life?
Parmenides... 2 paths are open to investigation, being is non-being is not, non-being is and being is not
22:58 Dealing with emotional pain
28:40 Love is not an object
33:59 What do you mean by universal when you say that consciousness is universal?
43:27 How to differentiate between the laws of the universe and a belief?
54:30 What does it mean to be open? Is it the same as relaxation?
1:02:48 Simultaneous rising of creation and the knowing of it
1:16:23 Does not knowing mean that one is open to all dimensions of perception?
1:24:56 Duality in love
1:49:15 Waking state, dream state
Related dialogues: Waking State: Real or Illusion? • Waking State: Real or ... & What is Grace? • Video
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[@hemamalini-sy8mj]

Love you Francis , i can feel so much affection and compassion when you are talking 🥰😍🤗

[@owl6218]

that was a marathon session...Thank you, because you shared it, you are generous, i am grateful

[@consciousawareness6020]

In the search for our true nature - Grace - we ignore what we already are.

[@akirabaycrest4398]

Francis! Your answers are always fresh, like grace itself . Thank you for the opportunity to understand.....

[@saidabdulfattah1]

Love this guy!!! What a reality-tour... Thank you!

[@ralphyarber1143]

Thank you Francis you have led me to freedom!

[@rickdeckard1075]

the Vedas covered all this millennia ago

[@karlerik7593]

Ralph, I, too, exist with gratitude~

[@karlerik7593]

@@rickdeckard1075, isnt it so amazing how time is the breadth by which we, as humans, have our being?! if I think of this existing for only a few minutes, I sense that the openness of Consciousness is timeless!! Time, in fact, is as illusory as all of this, but serves its perfect function.... to reMIND me of what I truly am~ I have a suspicion that Im clueless- as the human- as to how Majestic this experience is....;)

[@innerlight617]

39.17. From the view point that Consciousness is an emergent process of the brain,the brain emerges from..is part of the Universe and therefore it is the Universe in final analysis, which is the reality that perceives.... Excellent Francis!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Anastasiiia_an]

Thank you 🙏🏻

[@adrianahodor5329]

This guy nailed it .....

[@ViolaRenate_TV]

What is born Is not... That was a juicy AHAAA moment. Thank you 🙏

[@owl6218]

joy is when you discover you have visited this same page of francis, 3 yrs ago!

[@grahamtrave1709]

In a given situation either love can be experienced or it’s absense …. It’s like this.

[@owl6218]

i used to think the works of parmenides was lost to time. apparently not, this excract is enough to let us know the core of his teaching. I am going to transcribe that 'oxford' translation francis read out, and post it here

[@orangoetan2967]

How to get in touch with love

[@rosisunny9302]

Orang Oetan It develops in your Hearth,us you care for you self and others!And Love for a tree or Natur is us you recognize that all Beautiful!

[@eyalorgad3915]

Thank you, Francis. What the question boils down to - if universal consciousness is simply a belief since it cannot be proven or even grasped being beyond thought, feeling , perception, much like a belief in God, could you define that belief as a form of religious sentiment?

[@michaelmcclure3383]

What you don't have proof for is the separateness of a particular body. Only mind is capable of making such distinction of me mine, not mine and so on. In this sense the term universal exists only in relation to the contrary claims of limited individuality and has no meaning outside of that. Just a conceptual tool to extract a belief. Not a new belief to be added. The onus is on the one who believes in such separation to prove it. I mean if one is going to be so cerebral, then it's best to apply that to ones own preconceptions. That's a good use of discrimination. Otherwise, one is an insincere fence sitter and asking the wrong questions rarely leads anywhere

[@rosisunny9302]

Eyal Orgad The Mind can’t understand it!😲😲🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

[@holyvoid]

❤🥰😇🙏🤩😍💞

[@eyalorgad3915]

Francis, later in the video you imply that the belief in universal consciousness is a rational belief, unlike the story of the Virgin, but many religious people would say exactly the same about God. Many of the biblical stories are metaphorical or symbolic in nature.

[@MidiwaveProductions]

Eyal. Are you conscious..? The answer is "Yes". Right? In other words: Consciousness exists and since you are conscious of Consciousness, you are Consciusness. That is all. In other words: Consciousness is not a rational belief, metaphor or symbol. It is an experiential fact.

[@tbayley6]

Here's my take! The story of the virgin is specific and defined - they may believe that story literally, and therein lies the issue of evidence and rationality. But 'God' is not so easily defined. Metaphor and symbol, along with the concept of God, can be taken seriously without losing rationality, because what is pointed to may actually be evidenced (via what I think Francis called a 'non-phenomenal' experience.) Such an experience can't be described objectively, hence the use of symbol and metaphor to 'evince' rather than describe. Is belief required for this? Clearly not, though perhaps some faith is required. For example, faith that the simple experiences of love that Francis relates are expressions of our true identity - because we may also have beliefs that try to convince us they are incidental, or even meaningless. That faith is rational, and whatever draws us to it is rationality itself and that (as the Logos) has been called God.

[@eyalorgad3915]

Am I conscious? Medically speaking, once I have electrical activity in the brain and nervous system which creates thoughts feelings perceptions, then yes, I am. Some of my thoughts are self-reflective. Psychology teaches us that the more introverted we are the more self - reflective we become. But once you elevate consciousness phenomena or experience to the status of non-objective, non -phenomenal, empty and ungraspable by mind-body, fourth dimensional experience you immediately enter the realm of belief, faith, and religious sentiment. Rupert Spira speaks of a different kind of knowing but it sounds more like a play of words. Have you tried turning attention on itself and experience awareness which is beyond all thoughts, feelings, sensations? Experientially, there is nothing there.

[@MidiwaveProductions]

You say: Have you tried turning attention on itself and experience awareness which is beyond all thoughts, feelings, sensations? Experientially, there is nothing there. Response: How do you know there is nothing there..? Because you are experientially conscious of the fact that there is nothing there. Right..?

[@tbayley6]

"But once you elevate consciousness phenomena or experience to the status of non-objective, non -phenomenal, empty and ungraspable by mind-body, fourth dimensional experience you immediately enter the realm of belief, faith, and religious sentiment." That's not what's going on. As Francis made clear in the video, what you are criticising is a specific after-the-fact 'take' on what's going on. And your criticism is another take. The reality spoken of does not manifest this way. If meta-cognition is involved, it's not the kind that lands on specifics (that's what is meant by 'empty', non-phenomenal, etc.) It doesn't require analysis and it doesn't have to be linked into a metaphysical framework. The only problem is that people appear not to see it, hence all the struggle to convey it, the conceptualisations that are so easily misunderstood, myth, woo, etc.

[@alastairhenden9118]

Are you the giver or the receiver !

[@grahamtrave1709]

I like Francis a lot. But in all honesty these Americans ask questions about things that have nothing to do with what Francis is advancing here. My guru Ramesh Balsekar would have said who cares about what someone has said about love or the absence of love and it’s outcomes. It’s just his concept, you can either agree with it or not agree with it …who cares ?

[@robbiepeterh]

I find Francis quite irritating, along with Rupert Spira. Just sayin' is all! I don't know, but isn't the idea that consciousness is one just as conditioned as saying it's separate? And if you say so, they just come back with "Well you have to experience it to know." Somebody ought to bop them on the nose! See how they react to that! Ha! BOP!

[@rosisunny9302]

robbiepeterh 😊🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃