Sayuri and The Chairman Finally Express Their Feelings | Memoirs Of A Geisha | Love Love

[@kritikaushal7906]

Chairman is the only sensible guy in the movie

[@Ferruccio_Guicciardi]

2:13 "Mameha came to me because of you" ... goosebumps when you realized she was well protected all this time ! Wonderful story !

[@msyawnietravels5861]

Mameha was jealous of Sayuri and the Chairman's Love. She knew that the Chairman loved Sayuri unlike the Baron relationship with Mameha. The Baron was a cold hearted womanizer and viewed Mameha as something beautiful he collected. Like the Kimono's he kept, Mameha was his object. The Chairman should have been able to be Sayuri's first but Mameha gave it to Dr. Crab. The Baron bidding more than anyone to win Sayuri virginity was a blow to Mameha.

[@Ferruccio_Guicciardi]

@@msyawnietravels5861 wow! great analysis! it is like you read the book !

[@cybercriminal3110]

@@msyawnietravels5861 Chairman didn’t bid to be Sayuri’s first time, and by choosing Dr.Crab instead of baron I’d say she gave her a favor

[@Conquest115]

I've seen this movie so many times it is so good! Must watch if you haven't seen it!

[@JoseLuizlORENZETTI]

This movie is so underrated. Such a work of art.

[@lovelove]

Agreed! What's your favorite moment from the film?!

[@julesmcc5477]

Her first time meeting the chairman, his act of kindness changed her world!!

[@conatcha]

It wasn't underrated at all. It was nominated for 6 Academy Awards and won 3 of them, apart from 6 nominations from BAFTA and 9 nominations from the Satellite Awards. Its OST won a Golden Globe and Gong Li and Zhang Ziyi were also praised by their roles. Really, you folks should learn how to use the word "underrated". It is one of those overused words in the Internet that has lost its meaning because stupid comments like this one.

[@halliehernandez-hi5kj]

Yes beautiful movie 😊

[@TheMclay]

​@@conatcha oh I remember the hype. It was well deserved, it's a beautiful movie. But I feel that it has been kind of forgotten over the years :(

[@valentinogal781]

This is art.. Wish they made more movies like this in 2024. 😢

[@toobadtobenice]

Ikr?? Everything's so lazy now

[@valentinogal781]

@toobadtobenice Yup..

[@helenangus1675]

Read the book first loved it, love the movie.

[@jordanwhite8099]

I really wanna know how long she was fighting for the chairman. She must've been like 11 or 12 when she met the chairman the first time and when she was 15 she saw him again. But at this scene, don't know how old she was.

[@akashamac5549]

After the war, she must be 18 or 19 perhaps. Idk

[@liddylou9912312342]

@@akashamac5549 in the books shes 29 or 30 by this scene

[@marlonquintana3466]

Chairman preordered 😭

[@LaMishiMish]

She was 9 when she first met him. I don't think a year passed after her fall, seeing how she was still in bandages when meeting him. Then she was 15 the second encounter. After that? I'm not sure ^^; Safe to say she fought for a long time for him.

[@Norfolkgal22]

In the book she first meets the Chairman at the age of 9 in 1929 and this scene is set just after the end of WWII, so 1945/6. So that's almost 17 years.

[@kritikaushal7906]

Damnnn I love this ending 😢

[@harikrishnane.s5611]

Me too

[@marcellenaadams4068]

I am happy that many people have the perspective of protecting young ones even in their hearts and minds. However, I'm amazed at how many people use modern values for different times and cultures. Because believe it not it was that long ago that a young girl was considered a women the moment she had a menstruation. That means as young in general as 12 years old. My grandmother was married at 14 years old. My grandfather was in his late 20's. And it was legal then....so what does that tell you.

[@teresamagnusson]

It was wrong then, and it's wrong now.

[@МаріяПетренко-ф3ц]

Why did you cut kiss scene?

[@minnieperez3859]

Painful beautiful ending to a love story of years gone by and finally they come together.

[@pinkpastelhearts]

ken is such a gorgeous man.

[@Rollercoaster-v5j]

Wow, this is timeless. China is gorgeous.

[@eimajkhoo]

This is Japan 😒

[@DragonGoddess18]

Love this movie. A lot

[@Embrinna]

Sayuri is like around the same age like his daughter(s) right?

[@ameliatango]

First of all I don't know the book, I'm talking only about the movie. I was amazed by this when I was younger. Now, when I'm older, it creeps me out a little bit. He found a little orphan girl, bought her an ice cream...and recommend her to his friends - pimps to get the girl out of the streets and rise the girl as a geisha...to meet her again when she grews up and fall in love? Soo... exactly what was his intentions when he saw the orphan?

[@takakhan-z3w]

You're not wrong that the age difference makes the relationship feel strange, but remember that the Chairman only sent Mameha to Chiyo after he saw her again in the garden. Granted, she was 15 in that scene by the movie's admission, so the implication still isn't great. But the point is that I believe his intention when he first met her was purely to cheer her up, and I would assume he went several years without giving the moment a second thought.

[@saphirebandit93]

I read the book a long time ago so I don't quite remember, but honestly he never seemed entirely uninvested in her in that way. It is possible to pretend otherwise for the sake of a more palatable story, and maybe it really is just Chiyo's wishful thinking. However, there are many men in the novel who were comfortable with looking at Chiyo like that and women as well, if only for business reasons and it's never really treated as something that's out of place. The world of the novel would not condemn his early interest, especially in balance of his "kindness." I'm not even sure the author would. I've seen interviews of his talking about the story and he seems rather titillated by the whole thing. Ultimately, it is simply a work of fiction to take as you will.

[@kiwimusume]

I feel like the author just kind of wrote himself into a corner and couldn’t figure out how to do it without making the Chairman seem like a paedophile so he just went “eh, maybe no one will notice”.

[@lindarockower6028]

His intentions were to help her

[@ElizaHamilton1780]

So you know zero about the geisha system during WWII or thereabouts. That’s all I got out of this.

[@EstherzCrown]

Some of you are so dense. If a woman did the same would that make u feel cringy. Chairman was kind and could sense the little girl wasnt being treated well. Hell i would marry chairman years later after to help save me..not once but multiple times. Thats love. She was an adult when they finally made true contact.

[@teresamagnusson]

The age gap is creepy no matter what.

[@SKINHEAD666HUMAN5]

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[@Htbrt]

I like rainbow ....

[@inaciasilva2024]

It's grooming for sure, I did watch the movie when I was little and read the book a few years ago. They try to make it seem cute and ambiguous but it did not convince me at all. she even confirmed that this was grooming by saying that every step that she has taken since she was a child was to get closer to him

[@devdee3208]

I disagree. Her wanting to be closer to him because of his kindness doesn't equate to him grooming her. He saw a child who was crying and tried to cheer her up, that was the extent of their first meeting. He protected her by sending Mameha to her, so that she might be able to become something and not be a peasant her entire life. She looked up to him and loved him, but his love for her came later as they grew close as adults.

[@EstherzCrown]

Omgsh some ppl should really know what grooming is

[@nathand4500]

gen z like you are clueless. where exactly was she groomed? because he did something nice for a young girl buying an ice cream?

[@teresamagnusson]

​​@@devdee3208Grooming all the way.

[@teresamagnusson]

​​@@nathand4500Grooming is subtle and takes time. But it's very effective.

[@mayweaver4273]

How old is he in the Movie? He is also a married man with children. He said this in the beginning in the ice cream scene. So she is in love with a family man ❤❤❤ so romantic😅😢

[@kdallas3966]

They wanted what they could not have. That is not love.

[@遠藤誠一-v7x]

The historical accuracy is poor.

[@d.c.m804]

Isn't this grooming?

[@windy2610]

No, it’s not.

[@kiwimusume]

It’s an unintentionally skeevy plotline by an author who turned out to be pretty shady (see: Iwasaki Mineko).

[@Jacubamustoff]

Depends on your culture or mindset. It looks like true love between willing adults to me. He never preyed on her. He protected her from some very venomous women that might have ruined her.

[@huh4228]

It is grooming.

[@nathand4500]

@@huh4228 how?

[@strangerthingsaresaid7655]

All he had to do was wait for her to grow up first. I assume he dumped his wife for a child he fell in love with many years ago 😂

[@georgecavendish1504]

She got her husband.

[@reddalchemy5970]

Nah, he is married, with kids. Probably an arranged marriage, but still. She will always be the side chick, but a POPULAR side chick.🤣 And back then, Geisha do not marry. Not sure what it is like these days.