Smith and Lakland all day. One thing that I've realized about some lower grade basses is that the Low B doesnt have the same tonal character as the rest of the bass. They literally sound like a 4 string with a low B attached, rather than a 5 string instrument.
@bassyboii3 жыл бұрын
dude you hit it right on the head. its such a challenge to find a bass where the b sounds like it belongs with the rest of the strings.
@grungebox2 жыл бұрын
@@bassyboii Yes, I had to get a used bass in the $3250 price bracket in order to get a B string that matched the other strings in timbre. I wanted the fretted E (on the low B ) to sound like the open E string. I went with an F-Bass BN5. New the F-Bass BN5s are $4500 (used to have a new one in 2006, stupidly I sold it.). Anyway, no Fender, Ibanez or Stingray could get even close. I am under the impression that the F-Bass is the most affordable boutique bass with a killer B string. I mean it is a huge piano sounding B that sounds like the rest of the strings- bright with a monster low end. You have to play the Ken Smith basses to get a baseline of how a low B should sound. That being said, the BN5 has the BEST low B in the business- I think better than Smith basses. The neck is ROCK solid and provides and excellent foundation for the low B. You do not have to worry about a used F-bass being unplayable. I bought
@pusanghalaw2 жыл бұрын
that's been solved by fanned frets. a 38" low-B is the most glorious sound on earth.
@miket26462 жыл бұрын
@@pusanghalaw Nah, definitely a niche fad. Some of the best recorded electric basses aren't even close to that scale. Besides, the majority of people using Dingwalls are playing root notes with a pick through a Darkglass anyways hahaha
@pusanghalaw2 жыл бұрын
@@miket2646 picks? i didn't notice. i prefer more traditional pizzicato or slap on the low-b. and my dream bass would be a "38 fanned fretless BEAD. with fret lines to be sure - not enough muscle memory to stay in tune on that scale length.
@Aakhv4 жыл бұрын
I choose Lakland. I always LOVED Lakland since the moment I first heard how it sounds. Well, maybe I like it A LOT because it was the first "Omg what a low B" bass I ever heard. Ken Smith was also a beast but I like very very much more the Lakland.
@ThunderBroomPilot4 жыл бұрын
I love the look of Lakland. One day, I will get one. They are just beautiful
@ferrybasman19694 жыл бұрын
The low B from the Fender and Sire seem too loud
@paulmyhre41003 жыл бұрын
Recently picked up a Lakland and love the instrument. Thanks for your great work on this comparison video.
@mauricioemanuels76115 жыл бұрын
Lakland por lejos... tono,definición,volumen,profundidad y es la mejor 5ta cuerda de todos los bajos que aparecen en el video..
@crtsdxn3 жыл бұрын
Bruh... Smith. Nothing else even close. Man, such perfect bass tone.
@wolfster22873 жыл бұрын
I just bought that white Lakland, but with a maple fingerboard. Comes in tomorrow. Got a really good deal at Sweetwater. I hope the maple fingerboard sound as good as this one.
@dreamcometruebypedrocochof62623 жыл бұрын
Lakland without a doubt!!!
@ultrasignificantfootnote33784 ай бұрын
Usefull video, I can not help to think that the biggest factor is the pickups.
@SergioPasquet7 ай бұрын
Lakland & Sire
@mjthump3 жыл бұрын
To me the Sire and definitely the Lakland sounded the best to me. The Fender low end tends to have a clingy sound on the neck on certain notes
@carlosaranaarzu58253 жыл бұрын
🔥Lakland 🔥👌🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@calvinwilds46 Жыл бұрын
Lakland all the way I expected that I have 5 string v7 vintage and Lakland 55-02 that 35 in scale on the Lakland makes the b sound better.
@DiogoBaeder2 жыл бұрын
To my ears, the Lakland has the best B tone between those you showed. It sounds the richest on the lows, deep and punchy. But the others sound pretty good too. The Sire one was my least favorite.
@GeroLubovnik4 жыл бұрын
The previous comments by others is very interesting. The Ken Smith had the best clarity and separation followed by Fender. If I had to pick one it would probably be the Fender (though I'm not a Fender fanboy at all). Also, this video hasn't accounted for strings. As an example, my Yamaha bass loves Ernie Ball Cobalt Flats while my Ibanez BTB sounds like garbage with them.
@outsider4624 жыл бұрын
GeroLubovnik thanks for the comment. I can’t remember what strings are on these Basses. I believe the smith has some nickels, the fender has Dunlop super brights stainless steel. Sire has nickels and lakland I’m not sure. I no longer have the lakland.
@steviedebarge774 жыл бұрын
I’m so impressed with the p7 I had no idea that it could be in the same arena as the others but between KS and P7 very very close followed except the fender fell out the front
@jesuguru23945 жыл бұрын
Best B - Smith=Lakland>Sire>>Fender Best overall - Smith>>>>Lakland>>Fender=Sire
@Starrchild655 жыл бұрын
That P7 5 is my next bass
@outsider4625 жыл бұрын
It’s a great bass. The electronics are fantastic.
@PhilosophicalCat4 жыл бұрын
Just got one. Absolutely nuts
@domenickcuccherini28473 жыл бұрын
I was looking at the P7 but ended up with the V7. P7 will be my next one for sure. Great, quality instruments
@zifuzmalikoshaylou1052 Жыл бұрын
Ken Smith has more sustain and one of the most easy to play , fantastic bass. Not for everyone... too expensive :( I ve got Sire V7 , it s ok bass for the price and finish under another name it would cost double or triple but thianks for M.Miller. I would go for Lakland DJ 5 fantastic bass. To answer for the low B my Ibanez 5 is incredible ....and Yamaha high end TRB 5 II No comment
@geeush2 жыл бұрын
The guy just couldn’t stop playing the KS, that says it all )) Strange enough, I found the Sire’s B more integrated into the whole sound of the instrument than the Fender’s.
You hit it right on the nose! I’m ordering a sire immediately (im not at all joking) I am a studio musician for a living. I don’t play much outside of work situations. Other than the occasional after session jam. And I’ve carried the same couple basses not because I don’t want or like to play boutique basses it’s just every single time I’m talking 99% of the time I’m asked to bring a jazz or P bass. A lot of times the studios are set up for this sound or engineer is familiar with those Basses. So I got a custom shop fender deluxe ( my arsenal 71’ P & 77’ & 79’ one passive aggressive & the other with a Michael Pope 3 band flex core & nordies) that can pretty much can pull off what those Basses are capable of doing. But from a standpoint of a studio player that Sire was best for recording. The fender was very a close second. I’m gonna get V10 & P7 after doing a little research after seeing this video.
@cedcobasse4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. I hesitate between having a sire or a used lakland , i have the answer, thanks a lot. Lakland sounds great.
@ralphbenitez44074 жыл бұрын
I liked the low B on the Marcus Miller and Ken Smith the best.
@viloriaramosprofesional31294 жыл бұрын
1) Sire 2) Lackland 3) Jazz Bass 4) KS
@outsider4623 жыл бұрын
Update on these basses. I sold the Lakland and the Sire. I still have the Fender Jazz and the Ken Smith. I picked up an Alleva Coppolo LG5 as my main bass these days. I'd like to get some new low b footage out again soon.
@markdavis98222 жыл бұрын
Alleva Coppolo
@grungebox2 жыл бұрын
F-Bass BN5 - (small Canadian builder) check out their low B - more monster than the Smith, I played them side by side. Ok, I'm a fanboy, but these basses are affordable at $3500 used- am killer.
@outsider4622 жыл бұрын
@@grungebox that’s actually what I’m eyeing next.
@grungebox2 жыл бұрын
@@outsider462 I’m getting the F-Bass logo (the “F”) tattooed on my arm. I cannot tell you how much I love this bass. It made me quit playing guitar altogether. 😀
@outsider4622 жыл бұрын
@@grungebox I just picked up a F Bass and it’s amazing!
I play a Lakland and MTD. the KS is a whole nuther clarity monster
@maximediastore7 ай бұрын
Ken Smith, by far the best sound. That particular tone shows the construction, hardware, wood and electronics: Game over .
@franktreppiedi2208 Жыл бұрын
The Lakland's B string extends a quarter inch beyond the nut to the tuning peg. That's what gives it the tight feel and sound.
@TheMAFIABOFIA2 жыл бұрын
1-Ken smith 2-Lakland 3-Markus 4-Fender
@mrstrings4 жыл бұрын
Can’t put the KS because is in a different league. But Lakland has the more balanced low b
@richardselby1711 Жыл бұрын
1 Lakland 2 Ken Smith 3 Sire 4 Fender You just can’t beat the 35” scale on the B
@whykatera815 жыл бұрын
No editing he just pulls the damn cord out BAM 💥. Then picks up another bass and 💥 again ! Lmao
@outsider4625 жыл бұрын
Wizdumb lol. Ain’t got time for that. Yes I did miss the mute button unplugging on the first bass but I saved your ears on the rest.
@gastonca7 ай бұрын
KS sounds with more mids, but it's the one I like most... seems a real low B without adding extra lows
@rmccain994 жыл бұрын
That alder body seems on point with that rosewood fretboard. I had been thinking swamp ash and maple but now I don't know.
@marius-93337 ай бұрын
That Sire had a tighter low end than the Fender, but that Fender had a horrible set-up clanking all over! That KS was thunderous!!
@maxxmonteiroo36005 жыл бұрын
Ken Smith 🙏🏻
@mowmowjapan4 жыл бұрын
I was surprised that the P7 is pretty nice on B string.
@JLong-py6mx Жыл бұрын
Lakland has the best sounding B and sound overall. The KS is a close second but was too bright IMO. Also, not a fair comparison unless all basses are strung with the exact same strings.
@outsider462 Жыл бұрын
Good point. I wish I did it with all the same strings. It’s hard to demonstrate feel/playability over YT but the smith us the best feeling B. Which is why I still have that bass. Thanks!
@VeitLehmann2 жыл бұрын
Interesting shootout! Clearly, the Sire performs the worst here. The Fender is surprisingly good, well defined, nice sound overall. The Lakland has a killer B while still maintaining a dynamic, vintage-like tone overall. The Ken Smith is a completely different beast, so tight and defined, clearly the best B string. But the overall sound is not my thing, too compressed, too even, lacks the kind of character that I want. So overall, Lakland wins for me! Thanks a lot for putting this together!
@outsider4622 жыл бұрын
Great feedback! Glad you enjoyed.
@VeitLehmann Жыл бұрын
@@outsider462 After rewatching this, I have to adjust my impression: Now I prefer the Sire's B string over the Fender's. Great value bass! But still, the Lakland is my favorite by a mile, and now I even prefer its B string over the Ken Smith's. I think it's because I use a different pair of headphones now.
@enigma_del_fato93715 жыл бұрын
thank you for this video.
@jbiz3 Жыл бұрын
I dig all of them aside from maybe the Sire. Being that they all sound great, makes me think that extra inch of the 35" Lakland may not be worth the extra length of the neck? I gave up 35" basses a long time ago but keep thinking about another lakland. Probably fine just keeping my Fender 5 as the main 5.
@outsider462 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I the fender is my main player. The Lakland is good but 34” low B strings play and feel plenty good. I don’t have the sire or the Lakland anymore.
@jamessmith-zk4co3 жыл бұрын
Its unfair to have the Ken Smith in this comparison.
@grungebox2 жыл бұрын
The F-Bass BN5 has a low B that is considered the best in the business. It is also affordable $3500 average used.
@killianhgrl47284 жыл бұрын
Lakland and Ken Smith
@edgargeorge48124 жыл бұрын
Para mí 1 Ken 2 Leklan 3 Sire 4 Jazz bass
@Evgen666ptz5 жыл бұрын
Growly Ken Smith
@Surfer86522 жыл бұрын
Lakland for best low B, but I already knew that before watching the video so I guess I'm biased.
@groovebassix554 жыл бұрын
Lakland and then I wouldn't hesitate to have any of the other 3 in no particular order
@ts4gv3 жыл бұрын
I like the sound of the Lakland B the best, but the Ken Smith B sounds the most like its other strings Do all these basses have the same strings? Not all B strings are made alike
@outsider4623 жыл бұрын
They do not. This was a quick impromptu comparison as I was testing my basses personally. Thought I’d share with everyone.
@rmccain994 жыл бұрын
Ken Smith, Sire, Lakland, Fender.
@moumontas5563 жыл бұрын
LAKLAND!!!
@tp52924 жыл бұрын
Lakland!
@jrosner61234 жыл бұрын
Although. . The fender Roscoe Beck fiver has a great low B
@BassMan27273 жыл бұрын
Lakland is the best !
@davidsiriperalta53013 жыл бұрын
A very usefull video
@manhtiennguyen17049 ай бұрын
I mean... if I have money, I would definitely buy Ken Smith. But since that's not the reality, can I ask have you tried Lakland 55-01 Skyline Deluxe (or 55-02)? What do you think about the B string in that bass? Cheers 🥰
@outsider4629 ай бұрын
I had a 55-02 in the past that I sold. Can’t remember exactly but the B on that might have even been better than my 55-94. No joke. Might he have been the strings but it was very good.
@manhtiennguyen17049 ай бұрын
@@outsider462 Thanks very much =)))) That will be my next bass 😊
@brianmartin17874 жыл бұрын
Ken Smith is in a league its own . lakland a strong second and the other two are way behind
@Things606 Жыл бұрын
The Ken sounded much thinner than the rest
@mrgskye2 жыл бұрын
I like the KS for tone but the B seems a little lacklustre and 'buzzes' compared to the other strings on the bass and other basses. The Sire seems to do well but then it does have a 35" scale and string through, so should be a nice tight B. 😁👌🏻
@Breeze_b_hard2 жыл бұрын
I believe all the Sire v series Basses are 34" scale, but they can be strung through the body.
@calvinwilds46 Жыл бұрын
Sires 34 Lakland 35 I have both v7 vintage,Lakland 55-02
@jeanfernandes78973 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@KM-px8cs4 жыл бұрын
Very helpful vid :)
@jacquesMFS Жыл бұрын
What kind of électronic used you for thé test ??
@michaelanthony90682 ай бұрын
Curious, how about strings? I assume new strings on all basses for this? What kind of round wounds ?
@outsider4622 ай бұрын
Hi I answered that in another reply. Smith had stainless steel while the Lakland hand nickel. I can’t remember the other two but the fender had dead strings. All round wounds.
@jaysci59645 жыл бұрын
Hi Tim, that was a very good, short and straightforward comparison. Perhaps you could do a more detailed one with changes in the dials to show each, which would be great! I must ask, since you've played all of them, how do you personally rank them? You seemed to enjoy the Ken Smith for it's sustain and it's lower bass tone did seem like it could cut through a mix well.
@outsider4625 жыл бұрын
Jay Sci thanks Jay. I have a few ideas how I can show case some more for these instruments. All of the basses are different tools for different projects I’ll be doing. I’d say the Smith is the best for feel and playability but the Sire is the best for value. I reach for the fender and Lakland most though. I prefer single coil pickups.
@mrserxius5 жыл бұрын
El Ken Smith los caga a palos a todos!
@OscarFCbass5 жыл бұрын
Obvio, sería una vergüenza que por ese precio un bajo de mitad de precio sonará igual o mejor
@stevenordstedt25354 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comparison though but need to be turned up to Lowe as I go to my laptop with my interface studio speakers
1)Ken Smith is the best, 2)Lakland 3) Fender 4) Sire
@danielludi25995 жыл бұрын
If you compare also the price the Sire is way far the best ....if money does not matter Ken Smith.....😁
@rmccain994 жыл бұрын
Sire seems the most useful. And is that an alder body or swamp ash?
@outsider4624 жыл бұрын
Alder body. I wanted a black bass and alder was the only body wood option available.
@85ba5 жыл бұрын
Lakland for the most weight, Ken Smith for the most growl and punch. Both are awesome! Sire was fine but plain compared to Lak and Ken. Fender is just out of this contest (looser).
@kylekim65985 жыл бұрын
Amazing comaprison. Thanks a lot. Do you think Sire bass has too much vintage tone?
@outsider4625 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment! I wouldn’t say too much vintage. I didn’t showcase what the electronics can do and when engaged there is a lot of versatility to it. Especially with the mid controls. So you can dial in a large amount of tonal variety.
@kylekim65985 жыл бұрын
@@outsider462 Haha you right. Stupid question! and Wise answer!
@outsider4625 жыл бұрын
It’s all good!
@mrbassten4 жыл бұрын
Ken Smith!!!!!
@seyereyes14 жыл бұрын
Me gusta el Sire
@davidhull6332 Жыл бұрын
Ken Smith (wins) has the tightest B - But they all sound nice
@outsider462 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@gmcilwain5 жыл бұрын
Lakland 55-94 has the tightest B it use an 128 gauge while the other use a 130 on the minimum. 55-94 is solid KS is twangy
@bbbbbbao4 жыл бұрын
It's a 35" scale
@tomowens74994 жыл бұрын
laklnd's own pickups or the older barts? (i own a 55 94 deluxe from 2001 with barts...)
@outsider4623 жыл бұрын
It’s the lakland pickups. I believe this lakland is a 2016.
@kabassa6 ай бұрын
The fender should have a rosewood fingerboard for an "Apples to apples" comparison, the maple fingerboard sounds more brighter. The K. Smith has more medium frequencies with unique tonal characteristic, like a "processed bass". Lakland sounds a bit more punchy bass Sire sounds a more controlled bass its a helpful video, thanks Best "B": Lakland for a hair
@PaddyLeggBass Жыл бұрын
Fender Jazz low B sounded the worst of the 4. The Ken Smith sits head and shoulders above the rest, very impressive
@subfreeq2 ай бұрын
Same strings and gauge on all of them?
@outsider4622 ай бұрын
Nah. It was whatever I had on them. Mostly stainless steel. I think the sire had nickel
@subfreeq2 ай бұрын
@@outsider462 They all sounded good honestly. The Smith probably had the most “bite” but the LakLand (US 55-94 right?) has a good one. The Sire for the money is a great deal, Fender 5’a aren’t terrific but they get it done. I have a Roscoe Classic PJ 5 that has a fantastic B. I mean as good as any bass I’ve owned and I’ve had a few. Hehehe Stingray 5’s have an awesome B for a 34” scale. I mean just awesome.
@outsider4622 ай бұрын
@@subfreeq I think smith has stainless and relatively newer stings then. Lakland I feel had nickel and fender had dead strings. I haven’t tried Roscoe but they look like awesome basses. Stingrays are pretty killer too with their low B. I had a Dingwall that had a wonderful B string. As of today I only have the smith and the fender still. I do have a Harley Benton PJ 5 and I’m surprised to say for the price the B sounds awesome. Value basses have been an interest of mine lately. (Can I get them to sound as good as expensive basses?) most of the time when using a HX Stomp the answer is yes (relatively close enough that the difference in price is negligible). Don’t get me wrong I love my F bass and Smith and want another Sadowsky. But, we all go thru seasons of gear haha.